On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Well, well, well... Ding Liren comes out fighting and wins
game one - playing black! I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting
that.
Gukesh seemed to be doing okay but it looks like he lost the
initiave with a couple of Queen mistakes. Ding, after a lot
of thinking time, found the moves to take advantage and
force a resignation from Gukesh after 42 moves.
1-0 Ding Liren
Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed the commentary! =)
Well, well, well... Ding Liren comes out fighting and wins game
one - playing black! I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting that.
Gukesh seemed to be doing okay but it looks like he lost the
initiave with a couple of Queen mistakes. Ding, after a lot of
thinking time, found the moves to take advantage and force a
resignation from Gukesh after 42 moves.
1-0 Ding Liren
D wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Well, well, well... Ding Liren comes out fighting and wins
game one - playing black! I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting
that.
Gukesh seemed to be doing okay but it looks like he lost the
initiave with a couple of Queen mistakes. Ding, after a lot
of thinking time, found the moves to take advantage and
force a resignation from Gukesh after 42 moves.
1-0 Ding Liren
Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed the commentary! =)
What sort of a chess newsgroup would this be if we didn't
mention the biggest chess game of them all when it is taking
place?
Although I am sure the more serious players among our community
will have some deeper insights to offer as the championship
match progresses.
But you have to start somewhere! :-)
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
What sort of a chess newsgroup would this be if we didn't
mention the biggest chess game of them all when it is taking
place?
Although I am sure the more serious players among our
community will have some deeper insights to offer as the
championship match progresses.
But you have to start somewhere! :-)
This is the truth! =) It does seem like the group has started
to wake up slightly the past couple months! I wonder if it is
a temporary phenomenon or part of a trend?
I know that in my case, chess passion comes and goes, mostly
being regulated by how much mental energy work takes.
D wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
What sort of a chess newsgroup would this be if we didn't
mention the biggest chess game of them all when it is taking
place?
Although I am sure the more serious players among our
community will have some deeper insights to offer as the
championship match progresses.
But you have to start somewhere! :-)
This is the truth! =) It does seem like the group has started
to wake up slightly the past couple months! I wonder if it is
a temporary phenomenon or part of a trend?
If by trend you mean a growth in Usenet per se, I'd say not.
We are still only a small community of chess enthusiasts in a
niche part of the internet at the end of the day, and probably
getting smaller as every year passes...
I know that in my case, chess passion comes and goes, mostly
being regulated by how much mental energy work takes.
Passion for most things come and go... but playing chess is like
riding a bike, you never forget how to play. It's always
something that is 'there' in your brain. So if life takes over
you can always return to it at a later date.
D wrote:
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Well, well, well... Ding Liren comes out fighting and wins
game one - playing black! I'll be honest, I wasn't expecting
that.
Gukesh seemed to be doing okay but it looks like he lost the
initiave with a couple of Queen mistakes. Ding, after a lot
of thinking time, found the moves to take advantage and
force a resignation from Gukesh after 42 moves.
1-0 Ding Liren
Thank you for sharing! I enjoyed the commentary! =)
Well, there's not much commentary for game two from me. After
three hours of play they settled on a draw, by repetition.
So Ding Liren leads 1.5 - 0.5
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Well, there's not much commentary for game two from me. After
three hours of play they settled on a draw, by repetition.
So Ding Liren leads 1.5 - 0.5
I would bet on Ding as the winner. But we shall see! Were
there any stormy emotions?
Pscyhological battles?
D wrote:
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Well, there's not much commentary for game two from me. After
three hours of play they settled on a draw, by repetition.
So Ding Liren leads 1.5 - 0.5
I would bet on Ding as the winner. But we shall see! Were
there any stormy emotions?
It's Ding Liren v Gukesh for the FIDE world title not Hans
Niemann v Hikaru Nakamura for the Online Gambling Sportsbook
Streaming Championship! I wouldn't be expecting too much stormy
emotion from the match in Singapore if I was you...
Pscyhological battles?
The term I would have used to describe today's game is 'tense'.
What sort of a chess newsgroup would this be if we didn't
mention the biggest chess game of them all when it is taking
place?
Although I am sure the more serious players among our community
will have some deeper insights to offer as the championship
match progresses.
But you have to start somewhere! :-)
Well, there's not much commentary for game two from me. After
three hours of play they settled on a draw, by repetition.
So Ding Liren leads 1.5 - 0.5
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:30:26 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
It's starting to liven up a bit now... Gukesh wins game
three so it's all level at 1.5 - 1.5 going in to the rest
day.
He's got to win more than that to win the title - it's only 14
games after all
Blueshirt wrote:
Well, there's not much commentary for game two from me. After
three hours of play they settled on a draw, by repetition.
So Ding Liren leads 1.5 - 0.5
It's starting to liven up a bit now... Gukesh wins game three so
it's all level at 1.5 - 1.5 going in to the rest day.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 13:30:26 GMT, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
It's starting to liven up a bit now... Gukesh wins game
three so it's all level at 1.5 - 1.5 going in to the rest
day.
He's got to win more than that to win the title - it's only 14
games after all
My money is still on Gukesh...
Also, how often do you see a world chess champion 'flagged' in a
world title match?
On Wed, 27 Nov 2024 21:07:28 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
My money is still on Gukesh...
Also, how often do you see a world chess champion 'flagged'
in a world title match?
Not sure what you mean by 'flagged' but certainly in the post
WW2 era world champions have lost lots of matches.
My money is still on Gukesh...
Blueshirt wrote:
My money is still on Gukesh...
This could still go either way...
I missed today's game live as 'she' wanted to do Christmas
shopping... so I had to make do with Vladimir Kramnik's recap
video on YouTube.
For a world champion Ding Liren has been very disappointing,
it's like he wants to go to Rapid or something... settling for
draws with 'white' as opposed to pushing on. While Gukesh had a
really good Olympiad but hasn't found that form here yet.
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games we get up
early tomorrow morning (9am) and see what game six brings as I
have no work on Sunday. (Hurrah!)
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
I missed today's game live as 'she' wanted to do Christmas
shopping... so I had to make do with Vladimir Kramnik's recap
video on YouTube.
For a world champion Ding Liren has been very disappointing,
it's like he wants to go to Rapid or something... settling
for draws with 'white' as opposed to pushing on. While
Gukesh had a really good Olympiad but hasn't found that form
here yet.
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games we get
up early tomorrow morning (9am) and see what game six brings
as I have no work on Sunday. (Hurrah!)
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's better than
Gotham chess?
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024 20:42:53 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games
This could easily be another 7 points v 7 points championship match,
like 2023, as i don't see either of them running away with it.
D wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
I missed today's game live as 'she' wanted to do Christmas
shopping... so I had to make do with Vladimir Kramnik's recap
video on YouTube.
For a world champion Ding Liren has been very disappointing,
it's like he wants to go to Rapid or something... settling
for draws with 'white' as opposed to pushing on. While
Gukesh had a really good Olympiad but hasn't found that form
here yet.
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games we get
up early tomorrow morning (9am) and see what game six brings
as I have no work on Sunday. (Hurrah!)
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's better than
Gotham chess?
<shrugs> Don't know. Vladimir Kramnik doesn't use an engine to
analyse the games and he's very monotone... but as an ex-world
champion I do like his viewpoint on these games.
Levy is more presentable and engaging, which is why his YouTube
channel is such a sucess. I haven't watched any of his recaps
for this tournamnet though. The only other recaps I have watched
- on rest day - were Hikaru's. He's always got an 'interesting'
POV too!
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Silver Skull wrote:
This could easily be another 7 points v 7 points
championship match, like 2023, as i don't see either of them
running away with it.
Too much at risk!
Imagine all the money, and all the loose women you
get if you win!
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
I missed today's game live as 'she' wanted to do
Christmas shopping... so I had to make do with Vladimir
Kramnik's recap video on YouTube.
For a world champion Ding Liren has been very
disappointing, it's like he wants to go to Rapid or
something... settling for draws with 'white' as opposed
to pushing on. While Gukesh had a really good Olympiad
but hasn't found that form here yet.
So with the scores tied at 2.5 - 2.5 after five games we
get up early tomorrow morning (9am) and see what game
six brings as I have no work on Sunday. (Hurrah!)
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's better
than Gotham chess?
<shrugs> Don't know. Vladimir Kramnik doesn't use an engine to
analyse the games and he's very monotone... but as an
ex-world champion I do like his viewpoint on these games.
Levy is more presentable and engaging, which is why his
YouTube channel is such a sucess. I haven't watched any of
his recaps for this tournamnet though. The only other recaps
I have watched - on rest day - were Hikaru's. He's always
got an 'interesting' POV too!
That's a good point. Maybe I should try one of Hikarus videos
to see how it compares.
D wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Silver Skull wrote:
This could easily be another 7 points v 7 points
championship match, like 2023, as i don't see either of them
running away with it.
Too much at risk!
Of course... losing is an unthinkable proposition once you get
this far. So as we saw again this morning, caution before
adventure!
Imagine all the money, and all the loose women you
get if you win!
FIDE don't strike me as the type of organisation that include
"loose women" in their prize pot... ;-)
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
Imagine all the money, and all the loose women you
get if you win!
FIDE don't strike me as the type of organisation that include
"loose women" in their prize pot... ;-)
You never know what happens at those FIDE after parties! ;) I
imagine they could easily turn into some group sex scene from
the very fascinating TV-series strange angel, which of course
was cancelled after two seasons (this happens to most
TV-series I like).
D wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's
better than Gotham chess?
<shrugs> Don't know. Vladimir Kramnik doesn't use an engine
to analyse the games and he's very monotone... but as an
ex-world champion I do like his viewpoint on these games.
Levy is more presentable and engaging, which is why his
YouTube channel is such a sucess. I haven't watched any of
his recaps for this tournamnet though. The only other
recaps I have watched - on rest day - were Hikaru's. He's
always got an 'interesting' POV too!
That's a good point. Maybe I should try one of Hikarus videos
to see how it compares.
D wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
Imagine all the money, and all the loose women you
get if you win!
FIDE don't strike me as the type of organisation that include
"loose women" in their prize pot... ;-)
You never know what happens at those FIDE after parties! ;) I
imagine they could easily turn into some group sex scene from
the very fascinating TV-series strange angel, which of course
was cancelled after two seasons (this happens to most
TV-series I like).
Er... this is chess we are on about! Group sex orgies at FIDE
after parties do not strike me as likely happenings... although
maybe some of our community here 'in the know' may have
different stories to tell about what goes on after FIDE events?!
Over to you Horny...
Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's
better than Gotham chess?
<shrugs> Don't know. Vladimir Kramnik doesn't use an engine
to analyse the games and he's very monotone... but as an
ex-world champion I do like his viewpoint on these games.
Levy is more presentable and engaging, which is why his
YouTube channel is such a sucess. I haven't watched any of
his recaps for this tournamnet though. The only other
recaps I have watched - on rest day - were Hikaru's. He's
always got an 'interesting' POV too!
That's a good point. Maybe I should try one of Hikarus videos
to see how it compares.
That blank post was supposed to be a link to today's upload from
the one and only Vladimir Kramnik with his 'game six' recap...
but I forget to put the link in before hitting send. (Doh!)
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of WC
match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKXzN36rrg
[Video 16 mins]
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
That blank post was supposed to be a link to today's upload
from the one and only Vladimir Kramnik with his 'game six'
recap... but I forget to put the link in before hitting
send. (Doh!)
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of
WC match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKXzN36rrg
[Video 16 mins]
Hahaha... so wonderfully eastern european! The anti-thesis to
Gothamchess! Wonderful!
Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
On Sat, 30 Nov 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
This one I did follow at Gotham chess. Is Kramnik's
better than Gotham chess?
<shrugs> Don't know. Vladimir Kramnik doesn't use an engine
to analyse the games and he's very monotone... but as an
ex-world champion I do like his viewpoint on these games.
Levy is more presentable and engaging, which is why his
YouTube channel is such a sucess. I haven't watched any of
his recaps for this tournamnet though. The only other
recaps I have watched - on rest day - were Hikaru's. He's
always got an 'interesting' POV too!
That's a good point. Maybe I should try one of Hikarus videos
to see how it compares.
That blank post was supposed to be a link to today's upload from
the one and only Vladimir Kramnik with his 'game six' recap...
but I forget to put the link in before hitting send. (Doh!)
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of WC
match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKXzN36rrg
[Video 16 mins]
Er... this is chess we are on about! Group sex orgies at FIDE
after parties do not strike me as likely happenings... although
maybe some of our community here 'in the know' may have
different stories to tell about what goes on after FIDE events?!
Over to you Horny...
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of WC
match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qKXzN36rrg
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 19:46:48 +0000, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
wrote:
Er... this is chess we are on about! Group sex orgies at FIDE
after parties do not strike me as likely happenings... although
maybe some of our community here 'in the know' may have
different stories to tell about what goes on after FIDE events?!
Over to you Horny...
While the Chess Federation of Canada has 3 women on our national
board, nearly all our work is done by e-mail so if anybody's "getting
lucky" it ain't me.
I'm pretty sure I'm the only unmarried board member though that's more
from being a widower rather than single.
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 19:56:44 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of
WC match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
It can only get better Vladimir.
Silver Skull wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 19:56:44 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
Although as the video is entitled "Sort of recap of sort of
WC match Game 6" and the thumbnail is of Garry Kasparov, that
probably tells you all you need to know about what Vladimir
Kramnik thinks of the Ding Liren - Gukesh Dommaraju match-up!
It can only get better Vladimir.
I'll be adventurous, stick my neck out and say, it's going to
rapid...
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:11:43 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I'll be adventurous, stick my neck out and say, it's going to
rapid...
This is the world championship you're talking about so I hope
you're wrong but wouldn't be at all surprised if you're not.
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:11:43 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I'll be adventurous, stick my neck out and say, it's going to
rapid...
This is the world championship you're talking about so I hope
you're wrong but wouldn't be at all surprised if you're not.
Well, it went to rapid last year, didn't it? Ding v Nepo was 7-7
IIRC.
But after saying that, why should anyone be surprised? At that
level of chess between two top GM's they should cancel each
other out over a certain number of games. So a 7.5 - 2.0
walkover would be more of a surprise to me than a 7 - 7 tie
after the classical format.
Magnus Carlsen seems to be a bit disappointed by some of these
world championship games (that he is commentating on for his
app) but he chose not to compete for the world championship, so
it is what it is.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Magnus Carlsen seems to be a bit disappointed by some of
these world championship games (that he is commentating on
for his app) but he chose not to compete for the world
championship, so it is what it is.
Given his age, I always thought that Magnus would try and beat
Laskers record. But I think he said in some interview, that he
did not have the motivation any longer for elite chess.
D wrote:
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
Magnus Carlsen seems to be a bit disappointed by some of
these world championship games (that he is commentating on
for his app) but he chose not to compete for the world
championship, so it is what it is.
Given his age, I always thought that Magnus would try and beat
Laskers record. But I think he said in some interview, that he
did not have the motivation any longer for elite chess.
I saw a photo of Magnus Carlsen with his girlfriend last week so
I can understand why he would not want to spend hours and hours
on in-depth prep for world championship games any more. There
are only so many hours in a day.
On Thu, 5 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:
D wrote:
Given his age, I always thought that Magnus would try and
beat Laskers record. But I think he said in some
interview, that he did not have the motivation any longer
for elite chess.
I saw a photo of Magnus Carlsen with his girlfriend last
week so I can understand why he would not want to spend
hours and hours on in-depth prep for world championship
games any more. There are only so many hours in a day.
Yes, but a girl is a girl... chess fame is forver! ;)
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:11:43 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I'll be adventurous, stick my neck out and say, it's going to
rapid...
This is the world championship you're talking about so I hope
you're wrong but wouldn't be at all surprised if you're not.
Well, it went to rapid last year, didn't it? Ding v Nepo was 7-7
But after saying that, why should anyone be surprised? At that
level of chess between two top GM's they should cancel each
other out over a certain number of games. So a 7.5 - 2.0
walkover would be more of a surprise to me than a 7 - 7 tie
after the classical format.
On Wed, 4 Dec 2024 14:13:10 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:
The Horny Goat wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 14:11:43 +0000, "Blueshirt"
<blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
I'll be adventurous, stick my neck out and say, it's going to
rapid...
This is the world championship you're talking about so I hope
you're wrong but wouldn't be at all surprised if you're not.
Well, it went to rapid last year, didn't it? Ding v Nepo was 7-7
If a classical world chess championship is going to be decided on rapid tie-breaks then the format should include a few more shorter
time-control games.
But after saying that, why should anyone be surprised? At that
level of chess between two top GM's they should cancel each
other out over a certain number of games. So a 7.5 - 2.0
walkover would be more of a surprise to me than a 7 - 7 tie
after the classical format.
There is cancelling each other out and then there is getting into a
decent position and settling for a draw ! No ambition in a classical OTB
game shouldn't be rewarded with a world title just because you are
quicker at moving pieces around in the tie-breaks.
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