• Chess: Carlsen disqualified in New York after refusing to change out of

    From D@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 13:07:47 2024
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    Dear rgcm:s,

    I thought you might enjoy this:

    ++++

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid Championship and has
    also chosen to withdraw from the World Blitz saying ‘it became a matter of principle’
    Leonard Barden
    Sat 28 Dec 2024 00.57 CET
    First published on Fri 27 Dec 2024 09.00 CET
    159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from the World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code violation, refusing to change
    from jeans, after a previous warning. He is also withdrawing from the
    World Blitz which starts on 30 December.

    Fide explained their decision in a statement while Carlsen said: “I said I’ll change tomorrow … but they said you have to change now it became a matter of principle for me so here we are! Honestly I’m too old at this
    point to care too much. If this is what they want to do I’ll probably set
    off to somewhere where the weather is a bit nicer.”

    At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a point and a
    half behind the leaders, with little chance of retaining his title.

    After eight of the 13 rounds, Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland), Arjun Erigaisi (India) and Alexander Grischuk (Russia) led on 6.5/8. Nine players on 6/8 include Russia’s 18-year-old Volodar Murzin, who beat the No 2 seed and US champion, Fabiano Caruana, and the world No 3 and speed specialist, Hikaru Nakamura.
    Chess 3952
    3952: Albert Sandrin v Pal Eros, Pula 1972. White to move and win.

    The early rounds of the 11-round Women’s World Rapid were a triumph for
    the rising US star Alice Lee, 15, who won all her four games and was the
    sole leader. However Lee, who burst into prominence last year, lost to the
    top seed and reigning world women’s champion, China’s Ju Wenjun, in a crucial fifth-round pairing.

    After six of the 11 rounds Ju had 5.5/6, half a point ahead of Alexandra Kosteniuk (Switzerland) and Kateryna Lagno (Russia), with Lee in the
    chasing group on 4.5/6.

    The field of 182 for the World Rapid/Blitz includes 30 Americans while
    China has the top three seeds in the Women’s World Rapid/Blitz, which has
    113 entries. The total prize fund is $1m for the open Rapid and Blitz,
    with $428,500 for the two women’s events.

    This is the first time that the popular speed world championships have
    been staged on American soil, let alone at the centre of international
    finance. Rapid is defined as 15 minutes per player per game, plus an
    increment of 10 seconds a move from move one, while Blitz is three minutes
    per player per game, plus a two seconds per move increment.

    Carlsen has already won five world rapids and seven world blitzes in his illustrious career, and captured both titles in 2022 and 2023. The list of
    his lifetime victories is impressively long, and underlines the task ahead
    for the new classical world champion, Gukesh Dommaraju, as the Indian 18-year-old, who is not competing in New York, aims to match the
    Norwegian’s achievements.

    Carlsen’s chess curriculum vitae lists 64 major titles, all but nine of
    them over the board. Gukesh so far has just six – one world championship,
    one Candidates, three Olympiad golds, and one Fide Circuit, albeit with a 16-year age advantage.

    Rapid is now Carlsen’s favourite format, and he scored again in last
    week’s Champions Tour, where most events were held online while the eight-player final pool was staged across the board in Oslo.

    It ended up with a final between Carlsen and his old rival Ian
    Nepomniachtchi, who he defeated in their 2021 world title match, where
    their 136-move sixth game was the longest in world championship history.
    This time there was a much faster outcome, as Carlsen won 4-1 including a 23-move crush in the final game.

    Carlsen is always alert to new developments, and his 7 a3 repeated
    Gukesh’s novelty against Ding Liren from game 13 of the Fide world title match in Singapore, a drawn encounter where the teenager overlooked a win.

    Nepomniachtchi varied from Ding by early castling, but he missed the power
    of the rook lift 17 Rh3! This is an ancient and strong strategy against
    the French, which I recall the shock of experiencing as Black at London
    1948 against Oliver Penrose. Here, White’s attack on the king quickly
    proved the irrelevance of the Russian queen excursion on the opposite
    flank, and Carlsen’s final 23 Qg6! created the unanswerable threat of Ng5
    and Qh7 mate.
    Gukesh Dommaraju poses with the trophy during a ceremonial parade in
    Chennai after his win in the world chess championship
    Chess: Gukesh and India celebrate after win but new challenges are
    emerging
    Read more

    The World Rapid started on Thursday, and continues at 7pm GMT on Friday
    and Saturday. You can watch free, with grandmaster and computer commentary
    and assessments, on lichess.org and other major chess sites.

    In between the three-day, 13-round Rapid on 26-28 December and the two-day Blitz on 30-31 December, Fide has organised the Wall Street Gambit, a conference to explore the fusion between chess and finance.

    Its highlight will be a keynote address by the renowned economist and GM Kenneth Rogoff, who will speak on chess, AI, and economics. Caruana and India’s former world champion Vishy Anand will be present. Standard
    tickets cost $1,000, while VIP tickets at $5,000, which include a blitz
    game and selfies with Caruana, are already sold out.

    No UK players have travelled to the World Rapid/Blitz due to the high cost
    and the low chances of a prize. For England’s experts, the annual 10,000 Caplin Hastings Masters from 28 December to 5 January is the event of the moment. More than 100 entries range from at least seven 2500+ grandmasters
    to a long tail where over half the field are rated below 2000.

    England’s youngest ever GM, 15-year-old Shreyas Royal, is the top home
    seed, while a likely candidate for an international title is 21-year-old
    FM Alex Golding, who already has two IM norms and a 2400+ rating and has
    just won the traditional Richmond pre-Christmas blitz at Orleans Park
    School from an entry of over 100.

    3952: 1 Nh6+ Kf8 2 Nf5! (threat 3 Rh8 mate) g6 3 Qh6+ Kg8 4 Qh7+ Kf8 5
    Qh8+! Bxh8 6 Rxh8 mate. Black can sacrifice his bishops and queen at g2
    and f2, but this only delays mate.

    ++++

    Personally I think this is just a symptom of his motivation issues. If
    winning is your 100% all consuming goal, a trifle such as changing pants,
    will not stop you. If you feel you have nothing to prove, are not
    interested, or are looking for an excuse to get out since you feel that
    perhaps you're not as hungry as the competition, yet, while having a
    legacy to protect, these are just the kind of things I would expect.

    "At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a point and a
    half behind the leaders, with little chance of retaining his title."

    This confirms it to me.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 13:06:34 2024
    D wrote:

    Dear rgcm:s,

    I thought you might enjoy this:

    ++++

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid Championship
    and has also chosen to withdraw from the World Blitz saying
    ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard Barden Sat 28 Dec
    2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27 Dec 2024 09.00 CET
    159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from the
    World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    Fide explained their decision in a statement while Carlsen
    said: “I said I’ll change tomorrow … but they said you have to
    change now it became a matter of principle for me so here we
    are! Honestly I’m too old at this point to care too much. If
    this is what they want to do I’ll probably set off to
    somewhere where the weather is a bit nicer.”

    At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a
    point and a half behind the leaders, with little chance of
    retaining his title.

    After eight of the 13 rounds, Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland),
    Arjun Erigaisi (India) and Alexander Grischuk (Russia) led on
    6.5/8. Nine players on 6/8 include Russia’s 18-year-old
    Volodar Murzin, who beat the No 2 seed and US champion,
    Fabiano Caruana, and the world No 3 and speed specialist,
    Hikaru Nakamura. Chess 3952 3952: Albert Sandrin v Pal Eros,
    Pula 1972. White to move and win.

    The early rounds of the 11-round Women’s World Rapid were a
    triumph for the rising US star Alice Lee, 15, who won all her
    four games and was the sole leader. However Lee, who burst
    into prominence last year, lost to the top seed and reigning
    world women’s champion, China’s Ju Wenjun, in a crucial
    fifth-round pairing.

    After six of the 11 rounds Ju had 5.5/6, half a point ahead of
    Alexandra Kosteniuk (Switzerland) and Kateryna Lagno (Russia),
    with Lee in the chasing group on 4.5/6.

    The field of 182 for the World Rapid/Blitz includes 30
    Americans while China has the top three seeds in the Women’s
    World Rapid/Blitz, which has 113 entries. The total prize fund
    is $1m for the open Rapid and Blitz, with $428,500 for the two
    women’s events.

    This is the first time that the popular speed world
    championships have been staged on American soil, let alone at
    the centre of international finance. Rapid is defined as 15
    minutes per player per game, plus an increment of 10 seconds a
    move from move one, while Blitz is three minutes per player
    per game, plus a two seconds per move increment.

    Carlsen has already won five world rapids and seven world
    blitzes in his illustrious career, and captured both titles in
    2022 and 2023. The list of his lifetime victories is
    impressively long, and underlines the task ahead for the new
    classical world champion, Gukesh Dommaraju, as the Indian
    18-year-old, who is not competing in New York, aims to match
    the Norwegian’s achievements.

    Carlsen’s chess curriculum vitae lists 64 major titles, all
    but nine of them over the board. Gukesh so far has just six –
    one world championship, one Candidates, three Olympiad golds,
    and one Fide Circuit, albeit with a 16-year age advantage.

    Rapid is now Carlsen’s favourite format, and he scored again
    in last week’s Champions Tour, where most events were held
    online while the eight-player final pool was staged across the
    board in Oslo.

    It ended up with a final between Carlsen and his old rival Ian Nepomniachtchi, who he defeated in their 2021 world title
    match, where their 136-move sixth game was the longest in
    world championship history. This time there was a much faster
    outcome, as Carlsen won 4-1 including a 23-move crush in the
    final game.

    Carlsen is always alert to new developments, and his 7 a3
    repeated Gukesh’s novelty against Ding Liren from game 13 of
    the Fide world title match in Singapore, a drawn encounter
    where the teenager overlooked a win.

    Nepomniachtchi varied from Ding by early castling, but he
    missed the power of the rook lift 17 Rh3! This is an ancient
    and strong strategy against the French, which I recall the
    shock of experiencing as Black at London 1948 against Oliver
    Penrose. Here, White’s attack on the king quickly proved the
    irrelevance of the Russian queen excursion on the opposite
    flank, and Carlsen’s final 23 Qg6! created the unanswerable
    threat of Ng5 and Qh7 mate. Gukesh Dommaraju poses with the
    trophy during a ceremonial parade in Chennai after his win in
    the world chess championship Chess: Gukesh and India celebrate
    after win but new challenges are emerging Read more

    The World Rapid started on Thursday, and continues at 7pm GMT
    on Friday and Saturday. You can watch free, with grandmaster
    and computer commentary and assessments, on lichess.org and
    other major chess sites.

    In between the three-day, 13-round Rapid on 26-28 December and
    the two-day Blitz on 30-31 December, Fide has organised the
    Wall Street Gambit, a conference to explore the fusion between
    chess and finance.

    Its highlight will be a keynote address by the renowned
    economist and GM Kenneth Rogoff, who will speak on chess, AI,
    and economics. Caruana and India’s former world champion Vishy
    Anand will be present. Standard tickets cost $1,000, while VIP
    tickets at $5,000, which include a blitz game and selfies with
    Caruana, are already sold out.

    No UK players have travelled to the World Rapid/Blitz due to
    the high cost and the low chances of a prize. For England’s
    experts, the annual 10,000 Caplin Hastings Masters from 28
    December to 5 January is the event of the moment. More than
    100 entries range from at least seven 2500+ grandmasters to a
    long tail where over half the field are rated below 2000.

    England’s youngest ever GM, 15-year-old Shreyas Royal, is the
    top home seed, while a likely candidate for an international
    title is 21-year-old FM Alex Golding, who already has two IM
    norms and a 2400+ rating and has just won the traditional
    Richmond pre-Christmas blitz at Orleans Park School from an
    entry of over 100.

    3952: 1 Nh6+ Kf8 2 Nf5! (threat 3 Rh8 mate) g6 3 Qh6+ Kg8 4
    Qh7+ Kf8 5 Qh8+! Bxh8 6 Rxh8 mate. Black can sacrifice his
    bishops and queen at g2 and f2, but this only delays mate.

    ++++

    Personally I think this is just a symptom of his motivation
    issues. If winning is your 100% all consuming goal, a trifle
    such as changing pants, will not stop you. If you feel you
    have nothing to prove, are not interested, or are looking for
    an excuse to get out since you feel that perhaps you're not as
    hungry as the competition, yet, while having a legacy to
    protect, these are just the kind of things I would expect.

    "At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a
    point and a half behind the leaders, with little chance of
    retaining his title."

    This confirms it to me.

    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and many
    other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have known in
    advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to wear jeans,
    even after being told that it wasn't acceptable, then it looks
    like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to make a point about
    something. Either way, I'd be very surprised if it was 'just'
    about jeans!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Peter Steele@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Dec 28 13:47:29 2024
    Blueshirt wrote:
    D wrote:

    Dear rgcm:s,

    I thought you might enjoy this:

    ++++

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid Championship
    and has also chosen to withdraw from the World Blitz saying
    ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard Barden Sat 28 Dec
    2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27 Dec 2024 09.00 CET
    159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from the
    World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    Fide explained their decision in a statement while Carlsen
    said: “I said I’ll change tomorrow … but they said you have to
    change now it became a matter of principle for me so here we
    are! Honestly I’m too old at this point to care too much. If
    this is what they want to do I’ll probably set off to
    somewhere where the weather is a bit nicer.”

    At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a
    point and a half behind the leaders, with little chance of
    retaining his title.

    After eight of the 13 rounds, Jan-Krzysztof Duda (Poland),
    Arjun Erigaisi (India) and Alexander Grischuk (Russia) led on
    6.5/8. Nine players on 6/8 include Russia’s 18-year-old
    Volodar Murzin, who beat the No 2 seed and US champion,
    Fabiano Caruana, and the world No 3 and speed specialist,
    Hikaru Nakamura. Chess 3952 3952: Albert Sandrin v Pal Eros,
    Pula 1972. White to move and win.

    The early rounds of the 11-round Women’s World Rapid were a
    triumph for the rising US star Alice Lee, 15, who won all her
    four games and was the sole leader. However Lee, who burst
    into prominence last year, lost to the top seed and reigning
    world women’s champion, China’s Ju Wenjun, in a crucial
    fifth-round pairing.

    After six of the 11 rounds Ju had 5.5/6, half a point ahead of
    Alexandra Kosteniuk (Switzerland) and Kateryna Lagno (Russia),
    with Lee in the chasing group on 4.5/6.

    The field of 182 for the World Rapid/Blitz includes 30
    Americans while China has the top three seeds in the Women’s
    World Rapid/Blitz, which has 113 entries. The total prize fund
    is $1m for the open Rapid and Blitz, with $428,500 for the two
    women’s events.

    This is the first time that the popular speed world
    championships have been staged on American soil, let alone at
    the centre of international finance. Rapid is defined as 15
    minutes per player per game, plus an increment of 10 seconds a
    move from move one, while Blitz is three minutes per player
    per game, plus a two seconds per move increment.

    Carlsen has already won five world rapids and seven world
    blitzes in his illustrious career, and captured both titles in
    2022 and 2023. The list of his lifetime victories is
    impressively long, and underlines the task ahead for the new
    classical world champion, Gukesh Dommaraju, as the Indian
    18-year-old, who is not competing in New York, aims to match
    the Norwegian’s achievements.

    Carlsen’s chess curriculum vitae lists 64 major titles, all
    but nine of them over the board. Gukesh so far has just six –
    one world championship, one Candidates, three Olympiad golds,
    and one Fide Circuit, albeit with a 16-year age advantage.

    Rapid is now Carlsen’s favourite format, and he scored again
    in last week’s Champions Tour, where most events were held
    online while the eight-player final pool was staged across the
    board in Oslo.

    It ended up with a final between Carlsen and his old rival Ian
    Nepomniachtchi, who he defeated in their 2021 world title
    match, where their 136-move sixth game was the longest in
    world championship history. This time there was a much faster
    outcome, as Carlsen won 4-1 including a 23-move crush in the
    final game.

    Carlsen is always alert to new developments, and his 7 a3
    repeated Gukesh’s novelty against Ding Liren from game 13 of
    the Fide world title match in Singapore, a drawn encounter
    where the teenager overlooked a win.

    Nepomniachtchi varied from Ding by early castling, but he
    missed the power of the rook lift 17 Rh3! This is an ancient
    and strong strategy against the French, which I recall the
    shock of experiencing as Black at London 1948 against Oliver
    Penrose. Here, White’s attack on the king quickly proved the
    irrelevance of the Russian queen excursion on the opposite
    flank, and Carlsen’s final 23 Qg6! created the unanswerable
    threat of Ng5 and Qh7 mate. Gukesh Dommaraju poses with the
    trophy during a ceremonial parade in Chennai after his win in
    the world chess championship Chess: Gukesh and India celebrate
    after win but new challenges are emerging Read more

    The World Rapid started on Thursday, and continues at 7pm GMT
    on Friday and Saturday. You can watch free, with grandmaster
    and computer commentary and assessments, on lichess.org and
    other major chess sites.

    In between the three-day, 13-round Rapid on 26-28 December and
    the two-day Blitz on 30-31 December, Fide has organised the
    Wall Street Gambit, a conference to explore the fusion between
    chess and finance.

    Its highlight will be a keynote address by the renowned
    economist and GM Kenneth Rogoff, who will speak on chess, AI,
    and economics. Caruana and India’s former world champion Vishy
    Anand will be present. Standard tickets cost $1,000, while VIP
    tickets at $5,000, which include a blitz game and selfies with
    Caruana, are already sold out.

    No UK players have travelled to the World Rapid/Blitz due to
    the high cost and the low chances of a prize. For England’s
    experts, the annual 10,000 Caplin Hastings Masters from 28
    December to 5 January is the event of the moment. More than
    100 entries range from at least seven 2500+ grandmasters to a
    long tail where over half the field are rated below 2000.

    England’s youngest ever GM, 15-year-old Shreyas Royal, is the
    top home seed, while a likely candidate for an international
    title is 21-year-old FM Alex Golding, who already has two IM
    norms and a 2400+ rating and has just won the traditional
    Richmond pre-Christmas blitz at Orleans Park School from an
    entry of over 100.

    3952: 1 Nh6+ Kf8 2 Nf5! (threat 3 Rh8 mate) g6 3 Qh6+ Kg8 4
    Qh7+ Kf8 5 Qh8+! Bxh8 6 Rxh8 mate. Black can sacrifice his
    bishops and queen at g2 and f2, but this only delays mate.

    ++++

    Personally I think this is just a symptom of his motivation
    issues. If winning is your 100% all consuming goal, a trifle
    such as changing pants, will not stop you. If you feel you
    have nothing to prove, are not interested, or are looking for
    an excuse to get out since you feel that perhaps you're not as
    hungry as the competition, yet, while having a legacy to
    protect, these are just the kind of things I would expect.

    "At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a
    point and a half behind the leaders, with little chance of
    retaining his title."

    This confirms it to me.

    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and many
    other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have known in
    advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to wear jeans,
    even after being told that it wasn't acceptable, then it looks
    like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to make a point about
    something. Either way, I'd be very surprised if it was 'just'
    about jeans!

    Maybe the dress code is too harsh. Sometimes I want to wear a beard,
    but that is probably against the dress code.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sat Dec 28 19:46:31 2024
    Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid
    Championship and has also chosen to withdraw from the World
    Blitz saying ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard
    Barden Sat 28 Dec 2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27
    Dec 2024 09.00 CET 159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from
    the World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and many
    other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have known in
    advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to wear jeans,
    even after being told that it wasn't acceptable, then it looks
    like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to make a point
    about something. Either way, I'd be very surprised if it was
    'just' about jeans!

    IM Levy Rozman (GothamChess) gives us his views on JeansGate...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf6f_I_oLYM

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Peter Steele on Sat Dec 28 19:55:38 2024
    Peter Steele wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:


    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of
    jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and
    many other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have
    known in advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to
    wear jeans, even after being told that it wasn't acceptable,
    then it looks like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to
    make a point about something. Either way, I'd be very
    surprised if it was 'just' about jeans!

    Maybe the dress code is too harsh.

    No jeans in 2024 might seem a bit harsh, but I still say if you
    knew what the tournament rules were and still chose to break
    them, then you're looking to make a point against FIDE and/or
    gain some publicity for something.

    Don't get me wrong, I'm all for a good FIDE bash if they warrant
    it. But surely chess players get FIDE tournament rules before
    they start playing in a FIDE organised tournament, which I
    assume would include the dress code?

    (Our resident FIDE tournament expert(s) can probably confirm
    this.)

    Sometimes I want to wear a beard, but
    that is probably against the dress code.

    The current FIDE World Chess Champion has a beard!!!

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 29 12:51:47 2024
    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    ++++

    Personally I think this is just a symptom of his motivation
    issues. If winning is your 100% all consuming goal, a trifle
    such as changing pants, will not stop you. If you feel you
    have nothing to prove, are not interested, or are looking for
    an excuse to get out since you feel that perhaps you're not as
    hungry as the competition, yet, while having a legacy to
    protect, these are just the kind of things I would expect.

    "At the time of his default, Carlsen had scored 5/8 and was a
    point and a half behind the leaders, with little chance of
    retaining his title."

    This confirms it to me.

    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and many
    other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have known in
    advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to wear jeans,
    even after being told that it wasn't acceptable, then it looks
    like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to make a point about
    something. Either way, I'd be very surprised if it was 'just'
    about jeans!


    I agree. The jeans are just the symptoms. Maybe it's about this Fischer Chess thing, and that he wants to start his own chess organization?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Sun Dec 29 12:55:34 2024
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    On Sat, 28 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid
    Championship and has also chosen to withdraw from the World
    Blitz saying ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard
    Barden Sat 28 Dec 2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27
    Dec 2024 09.00 CET 159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from
    the World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    At a guess I'd say this was about more than a pair of jeans...

    Magnus Carlsen has played this tournament many times (and many
    other FIDE tournaments obviously) so he would have known in
    advance what the dress code was. So if he chose to wear jeans,
    even after being told that it wasn't acceptable, then it looks
    like he's pushing for a fight... or trying to make a point
    about something. Either way, I'd be very surprised if it was
    'just' about jeans!

    IM Levy Rozman (GothamChess) gives us his views on JeansGate...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf6f_I_oLYM


    Ah, he always has a light and humorous take on things. Let's have a look!

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Mon Dec 30 08:01:24 2024
    D wrote:

    Dear rgcm:s,

    I thought you might enjoy this:

    ++++

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid Championship
    and has also chosen to withdraw from the World Blitz saying
    ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard Barden Sat 28 Dec
    2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27 Dec 2024 09.00 CET
    159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from the
    World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    Following a peace agreement Magnus Carlsen has returned and will
    play in the World Blitz Championship part of these holiday chess
    festivities in New York today... and as a matter of principle he
    said he'll be wearing jeans!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzUE2cKoikQ


    If I was Levi or Wrangler I'd be getting on this and marketing
    some Magnus/GOAT branded jeans for 2025! (His agent is probably
    already on the case.)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon Dec 30 13:30:52 2024
    This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text,
    while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools.

    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    Dear rgcm:s,

    I thought you might enjoy this:

    ++++

    The world No 1 was defaulted from the World Rapid Championship
    and has also chosen to withdraw from the World Blitz saying
    ‘it became a matter of principle’ Leonard Barden Sat 28 Dec
    2024 00.57 CET First published on Fri 27 Dec 2024 09.00 CET
    159

    Magnus Carlsen, the world No 1, has been disqualified from the
    World Rapid Championship in New York due to a dress code
    violation, refusing to change from jeans, after a previous
    warning. He is also withdrawing from the World Blitz which
    starts on 30 December.

    Following a peace agreement Magnus Carlsen has returned and will
    play in the World Blitz Championship part of these holiday chess
    festivities in New York today... and as a matter of principle he
    said he'll be wearing jeans!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzUE2cKoikQ


    If I was Levi or Wrangler I'd be getting on this and marketing
    some Magnus/GOAT branded jeans for 2025! (His agent is probably
    already on the case.)


    Hmm, I think he had a sponsor contract with G-star or something like that,
    many years ago.

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  • From Silver Skull@21:1/5 to All on Tue Dec 31 10:14:13 2024
    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:30:52 +0000, D wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    Following a peace agreement Magnus Carlsen has returned and will
    play in the World Blitz Championship part of these holiday chess festivities in New York today... and as a matter of principle he
    said he'll be wearing jeans!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzUE2cKoikQ


    If I was Levi or Wrangler I'd be getting on this and marketing
    some Magnus/GOAT branded jeans for 2025! (His agent is probably
    already on the case.)

    Hmm, I think he had a sponsor contract with G-star or something like
    that,
    many years ago.

    Levis & wrangler's are way too common for Magnus - g-star would be a
    brand more up his street.

    The rumour floating around is that Magnus has a new contract with g-star
    to star in some adverts for them in 2025.

    Money, money, money, always sunny, in a rich man's world.

    --
    Vive Les Nordiques!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Silver Skull on Tue Dec 31 12:33:38 2024
    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024, Silver Skull wrote:

    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 12:30:52 +0000, D wrote:

    Blueshirt wrote:

    Following a peace agreement Magnus Carlsen has returned and will
    play in the World Blitz Championship part of these holiday chess
    festivities in New York today... and as a matter of principle he
    said he'll be wearing jeans!

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fzUE2cKoikQ


    If I was Levi or Wrangler I'd be getting on this and marketing
    some Magnus/GOAT branded jeans for 2025! (His agent is probably
    already on the case.)

    Hmm, I think he had a sponsor contract with G-star or something like
    that,
    many years ago.

    Levis & wrangler's are way too common for Magnus - g-star would be a
    brand more up his street.

    The rumour floating around is that Magnus has a new contract with g-star
    to star in some adverts for them in 2025.

    Money, money, money, always sunny, in a rich man's world.

    This is good inspiration! If we can improve our chess enough, then we can
    also get good sponsors and earn lots of money! =)

    Have Levis returned from woke-land yet? I heard people boycott them
    because they are too woke.

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 13:52:51 2025
    D wrote:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024, Silver Skull wrote:

    Levis & wrangler's are way too common for Magnus - g-star
    would be a brand more up his street.

    The rumour floating around is that Magnus has a new contract
    with g-star to star in some adverts for them in 2025.

    Money, money, money, always sunny, in a rich man's world.

    This is good inspiration! If we can improve our chess enough,
    then we can also get good sponsors and earn lots of money! =)

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    Have Levis returned from woke-land yet? I heard people boycott
    them because they are too woke.

    I boycotted Levi jeans a few years ago because they were too
    expensive!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to nospam@example.net on Thu Jan 2 15:07:59 2025
    On Mon, 30 Dec 2024 13:30:52 +0100, D <nospam@example.net> wrote:

    If I was Levi or Wrangler I'd be getting on this and marketing
    some Magnus/GOAT branded jeans for 2025! (His agent is probably
    already on the case.)

    Hmm, I think he had a sponsor contract with G-star or something like that, >many years ago.

    It's not as if he's showing their logo during the game unless he's
    wearing a cap or t-shirt....

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jan 2 15:09:03 2025
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:52:51 +0000, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    Give me another 800 points or so and that might change.....but then I
    would have been in Singapore!

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  • From Peter Steele@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Thu Jan 2 17:29:55 2025
    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:52:51 +0000, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    Give me another 800 points or so and that might change.....but then I
    would have been in Singapore!



    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com on Fri Jan 3 00:08:44 2025
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    (Several authors have published collections of "Mate in ___ moves" -
    my favorite one is Polgar's

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Peter Steele on Fri Jan 3 12:56:20 2025
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Peter Steele wrote:

    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:52:51 +0000, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    Give me another 800 points or so and that might change.....but then I
    would have been in Singapore!



    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum. I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.


    No one moves in a straight line. Keep at it, intelligently and with
    purpose, and you will start to climb!

    Personally I avoid the enormous preassure of playing rated games and opt
    for using the strength of lichess to measure my progress instead against
    the computer. ;)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Jan 3 12:54:19 2025
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, Blueshirt wrote:

    D wrote:

    On Tue, 31 Dec 2024, Silver Skull wrote:

    Levis & wrangler's are way too common for Magnus - g-star
    would be a brand more up his street.

    The rumour floating around is that Magnus has a new contract
    with g-star to star in some adverts for them in 2025.

    Money, money, money, always sunny, in a rich man's world.

    This is good inspiration! If we can improve our chess enough,
    then we can also get good sponsors and earn lots of money! =)

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    Nonense! I will turn you into an Urban Upper! You must have faith. As the
    bible teaches us... ask and you shall receive!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    I think with all the Magnus news lately we are seeing a small crack in the system already.

    Have Levis returned from woke-land yet? I heard people boycott
    them because they are too woke.

    I boycotted Levi jeans a few years ago because they were too
    expensive!

    Another excellent reason!

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  • From D@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Jan 3 12:54:53 2025
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 13:52:51 +0000, "Blueshirt" <blueshirt@indigo.news>
    wrote:

    Call me a Debbie Downer but I suspect none of us here will
    improve our chess enough to get big sponsorship deals and earn
    lots of money!

    We will never have enough 'power' in the chess world to make
    FIDE change/bend/amend their rules for us either...

    Give me another 800 points or so and that might change.....but then I
    would have been in Singapore!


    It will come... just give it time! =)

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  • From Peter Steele@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Fri Jan 3 05:55:36 2025
    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    I would expect that learning new stuff would raise my score rather than
    lower it.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com on Fri Jan 3 20:05:06 2025
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 05:55:36 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    I would expect that learning new stuff would raise my score rather than
    lower it.

    If you stay up studying till 4 am the night before round 1 mebbe not
    :)

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  • From D@21:1/5 to William Hyde on Sat Jan 4 12:53:08 2025
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025, William Hyde wrote:

    Peter Steele wrote:
    The Horny Goat wrote:
    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    I would expect that learning new stuff would raise my score rather than
    lower it.

    The problem is that chess is 99% tactics. If your tactics get even slightly worse while you are focusing on new ideas, your results will suffer. It may take a while to integrate the two.

    Once in a physics class the professor explained what a Lagrangian was, then used the Lagrangian method on a complex problem - but not so complex that it couldn't be done otherwise. After working out the Lagrangian for the system, applying the relevant equations, and finding the solution he left the class. One student spoke up:

    "You know, I used to be able to do that problem".


    William Hyde


    Hello William, long time no see! =)

    I remember our math teacher at university. In order to motivate the
    students, he would have his 12 year old son solve differential equations, saying see... it's so simple a 12 year old can do it! ;)

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  • From Silver Skull@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Sat Jan 4 21:27:59 2025
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 8:08:44 +0000, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    (Several authors have published collections of "Mate in ___ moves" -
    my favorite one is Polgar's

    'The Art of the Checkmate' by Renaud & Kahn is a good book for learning patterns.

    Patterns and tactics are the way to go.

    --
    Vive Les Nordiques!

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  • From Peter Steele@21:1/5 to Silver Skull on Sun Jan 5 04:03:39 2025
    Silver Skull wrote:
    On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 8:08:44 +0000, The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Thu, 2 Jan 2025 17:29:55 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I just learned an array of cool stuff to use in the game, but the
    hodgepodge I have collected has me down to 1265 from my 1490 maximum.
    I've got to retain all the former tips I've learned.

    And this surprises you because?

    (Several authors have published collections of "Mate in ___ moves" -
    my favorite one is Polgar's

    'The Art of the Checkmate' by Renaud & Kahn is a good book for learning patterns.

    Patterns and tactics are the way to go.



    I'm pretty sure I figured out the problem. I was taking what I
    considered the best move but never really weighing two options against
    each other like I used to. Making these decisions are the difference
    between taking a pawn with the bishop or taking a pawn with the bishop
    after stopping to check the king out of his castle in between etc.

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com on Sun Jan 5 11:01:22 2025
    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 04:03:39 -0600, Peter Steele
    <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I'm pretty sure I figured out the problem. I was taking what I
    considered the best move but never really weighing two options against
    each other like I used to. Making these decisions are the difference
    between taking a pawn with the bishop or taking a pawn with the bishop
    after stopping to check the king out of his castle in between etc.

    I'm pretty sure nobody will be moving their bishops to corner squares
    after Ding lost a world championship specifically by doing so (check
    out game 14 if you don't know what I mean)

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to The Horny Goat on Mon Jan 6 19:45:20 2025
    The Horny Goat wrote:

    On Sun, 5 Jan 2025 04:03:39 -0600, Peter Steele <snakesbloodpussycat@yahoo.com> wrote:

    I'm pretty sure I figured out the problem. I was taking
    what I considered the best move but never really weighing
    two options against each other like I used to. Making these
    decisions are the difference between taking a pawn with the
    bishop or taking a pawn with the bishop after stopping to
    check the king out of his castle in between etc.

    I'm pretty sure nobody will be moving their bishops to corner
    squares after Ding lost a world championship specifically by
    doing so (check out game 14 if you don't know what I mean)

    It's one thing to move the Bishop to a corner square... another
    to forget that it is going to be trapped there!

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