• Re: Teenage grandmaster 'likely cheated' in dozens of matches, top ches

    From Lefty Cheaters@21:1/5 to governor.swill@gmail.com on Wed Oct 5 12:30:29 2022
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    In article <b28pjh5srpfk3k4f89ekiqdir85qi9b9ga@4ax.com> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    He had a remote controlled vibrator in his ass.


    CNN

    Teenage chess grandmaster Hans Niemann “likely cheated” in more
    than 100 online matches, including ones with prize money
    involved, according to an investigation by one of the sport’s
    most popular websites.

    The 72-page report by Chess.com was released on Tuesday, a month
    after controversy erupted at a top tournament when the world
    chess champion accused the 19-year-old American of cheating.

    According to the report, first referenced by the Wall Street
    Journal, Niemann privately confessed to cheating to the
    website’s chief chess officer in 2020, which led to him being
    temporarily banned from the platform.

    The report said Chess.com closed Niemann’s account in September
    given his previous acknowledgments of cheating, suspicions about
    his recent play and concerns about the steep, inconsistent rise
    in his rank.

    “While we don’t doubt that Hans is a talented player, we note
    that his results are statistically extraordinary,” the report
    said.

    Niemann has previously admitted publicly to cheating in online
    matches at the ages of 12 and 16 but the investigation alleged
    he had cheated more recently.

    Niemann has not responded to CNN’s request for comment.

    Chess.com has millions of users and hosts more than 10 million
    chess games a day, according to its owners. To detect suspected
    cheating, the website uses software that flags suspicious moves
    by comparing a player’s moves to those suggested by a chess
    engine. Fewer than 0.14% of players ever cheat on the site,
    according to the report.

    Carlsen allegations
    The controversy began last month, when world chess champion
    Magnus Carlsen accused Niemann of cheating at the $350,000
    Sinquefield Cup in St. Louis, Missouri.

    “I believe that Niemann has cheated more – and more recently –
    than he has publicly admitted,” the 31-year-old Norwegian said
    in a statement posted to Twitter.

    “His over the board progress has been unusual, and throughout
    our game in the Sinquefield Cup I had the impression that he
    wasn’t tense or even fully concentrating on the game in critical
    positions, while outplaying me as black in a way I think only a
    handful of players can do. This game contributed to changing my
    perspective.”

    Carlsen pulled out of the tournament after losing to Niemann.
    Chess’ global governing body, FIDE, announced last week that it
    is investigating Carlsen’s allegations.

    Over the board chess is played face to face, rather than online.
    Carlsen did not provide details about how Niemann may have
    cheated.

    In an interview with the St. Louis Chess Club last month,
    Niemann said he had never cheated in over the board games.

    “I cheated on random games on Chess.com. I was confronted. I
    confessed. And this is the single biggest mistake of my life,”
    he said. ” And I am completely ashamed. I am telling the world
    because I don’t want misrepresentations and I don’t want
    rumours. I have never cheated in an over the board game. And
    other than when I was 12 years old I have never cheated in a
    tournament with prize money.”

    According to the Chess.com report, cheating in an over the board
    setting could involve “various methods such as: hand signals
    from a nearby coach or accessing a phone in the bathroom, a
    hidden device in a shoe, or a wire or buzzer taped to the body.”

    The report said Chess.com had not typically investigated
    cheating in over the board games, but it believed Niemann’s
    performances in some live games “merit further investigation
    based on the data.”

    “In our view, there is no direct evidence that proves Hans
    cheated at the September 4, 2022 game with Magnus, or proves
    that he has cheated in other OTB games in the past,” the report
    said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/sport/hans-niemann-chess-cheating- allegations-intl-hnk-spt?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Lefty Cheaters on Wed Oct 5 20:48:24 2022
    Lefty Cheaters wrote:

    In article <b28pjh5srpfk3k4f89ekiqdir85qi9b9ga@4ax.com> <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:

    He had a remote controlled vibrator in his ass.


    CNN

    Teenage chess grandmaster Hans Niemann �likely cheated� in more
    than 100 online matches, including ones with prize money
    involved, according to an investigation by one of the sport�s
    most popular websites.

    The 72-page report by Chess.com was released on Tuesday, a month
    after controversy erupted at a top tournament when the world
    chess champion accused the 19-year-old American of cheating.

    [SNIP]

    In our view, there is no direct evidence that proves Hans
    cheated at the September 4, 2022 game with Magnus, or proves
    that he has cheated in other OTB games in the past, the report
    said.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/05/sport/hans-niemann-chess-cheating- allegations-intl-hnk-spt?cid=external-feeds_iluminar_msn

    No "direct" evidence... yet. IMHO it's highly unlikely that Hans ONLY
    cheated in 100's of online games of Chess, yet never ever in OTB games.
    Now that FIDE are looking, who knows what they will uncover...

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  • From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to All on Thu Oct 6 12:21:58 2022
    Bs"d

    When I play on Lichess, I notice that almost a majority of all my opponents have a provisional rating.

    I think that Nieman with his crazy histrionics and cheating has lured thousands if not millions to the chess servers.

    And let's face it: It is extremely entertaining all the drama.

    Looks like the days of Fischer are back. :D

    https://tinyurl.com/GM-not-normal

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Eli Kesef on Thu Oct 6 21:49:00 2022
    Eli Kesef wrote:

    Bs"d

    When I play on Lichess, I notice that almost a majority of all my
    opponents have a provisional rating.

    New accounts but not necessarily new users of Lichess. Chess.com has
    the same issue, people making multiple and/or new accounts... for
    whatever reason.

    I think that Nieman with his crazy histrionics and cheating has lured thousands if not millions to the chess servers.

    Hans [and his engine] has made a boring to many pastime/board game
    mainstream news all over the world. Probably not for the better though.

    And let's face it: It is extremely entertaining all the drama.

    Chess and drama are two words that usually don't go together in the
    same sentence.

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  • From Eli Kesef@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Fri Oct 7 02:23:16 2022
    On Friday, October 7, 2022 at 12:49:02 AM UTC+3, Blueshirt wrote:
    Eli Kesef wrote:

    Bs"d

    When I play on Lichess, I notice that almost a majority of all my
    opponents have a provisional rating.
    New accounts but not necessarily new users of Lichess.

    Bs"d

    Not necessarily new users, but most like they are. Because I have never before seen such a flood of new users on Lichess.

    Chess.com has
    the same issue, people making multiple and/or new accounts... for
    whatever reason.
    I think that Nieman with his crazy histrionics and cheating has lured thousands if not millions to the chess servers.
    Hans [and his engine] has made a boring to many pastime/board game
    mainstream news all over the world. Probably not for the better though.
    And let's face it: It is extremely entertaining all the drama.
    Chess and drama are two words that usually don't go together in the
    same sentence.

    Now it does go together. Like in the days of Bobby Fischer, he was also a drama queen. He really put chess upon the map.
    Or should I say: On the board.

    But I do have the idea there are a lot of cheaters around. Low rated players defeat me, they have amazing tactical abilities, and my traps don't work, in situations where they really should have worked, where they always used to work.

    Maybe Hans also put cheating on the board.

    https://tinyurl.com/W-Hartston

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Eli Kesef on Fri Oct 7 10:32:35 2022
    Eli Kesef wrote:

    Maybe Hans also put cheating on the board.

    Hans has certainly made a name for himself... if not for the right
    reasons. He is being talked about be everyone in the game.

    This <cough> drama even made the national news here.

    And it ain't over yet I'd say!

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  • From The Horny Goat@21:1/5 to blueshirt@indigo.news on Sat Oct 8 19:25:55 2022
    On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 10:32:35 -0000 (UTC), "Blueshirt"
    <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

    Eli Kesef wrote:

    Maybe Hans also put cheating on the board.

    Hans has certainly made a name for himself... if not for the right
    reasons. He is being talked about be everyone in the game.

    This <cough> drama even made the national news here.

    And it ain't over yet I'd say!

    I've had my daughter (who lives in England while I'm in Canada) asking
    me about it.

    She knows I'm "active in chess" so wanted my opinion and also a
    summary of what the chess media is saying about it. and that I have
    had master level friends analysing the game and reaching the view that
    the loss was due more to poor play on Carlsen's part than
    super-brilliant play on his opponent's part.

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