• bean planting list for 2024

    From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 10:21:03 2024
    i finally finished planting the last bean garden rather
    late this season so i'm not sure what i will get from those
    but i'll enjoy them even as a cover crop.

    most of the beans on this list are experimental crosses
    or varieties involved in different projects i have going.

    anything mentioning network is from the Little Easy Bean
    Network grow outs.

    pdoc is purple dove out cross
    loc is ? (i don't know what i meant there now lol)
    some names are my own or temporary working names
    most names are common names
    most habits are bush or semi-or-half-runner


    - Andikove (network retry)
    - Half Whites
    - Brown and White
    - Red and White
    - Small Black and White
    - Flair (pdoc)
    - Fluffy (pdoc)
    - Huey
    - Koronis Three Islands
    - Lavender
    - Light Green (loc)
    - Matte Brown
    - Montville (network retry)
    - Painted Pony
    - Painted Pony Outcross Black
    - Painted Pony Outcross Brown
    - Pale (pdoc)
    - Pale Purple (pdoc)
    - Purple Dove
    - Purple Dove Odds (seven selections of pdoc)
    - Spot
    - Lines
    - Bland
    - Splotch
    - Top Mark
    - Bluish
    - Spotty Bluish
    - Red Ryder
    - Sacre Bleu (pole)
    - Skinny (pdoc)
    - Tinker's Fire
    - Venda
    - Vermont Appaloosa
    - Yed
    - Yellow Eye


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Fri Jul 26 14:56:28 2024
    On 7/26/24 07:21, songbird wrote:
    i finally finished planting the last bean garden rather
    late this season so i'm not sure what i will get from those
    but i'll enjoy them even as a cover crop.

    most of the beans on this list are experimental crosses
    or varieties involved in different projects i have going.

    anything mentioning network is from the Little Easy Bean
    Network grow outs.

    pdoc is purple dove out cross
    loc is ? (i don't know what i meant there now lol)
    some names are my own or temporary working names
    most names are common names
    most habits are bush or semi-or-half-runner


    - Andikove (network retry)
    - Half Whites
    - Brown and White
    - Red and White
    - Small Black and White
    - Flair (pdoc)
    - Fluffy (pdoc)
    - Huey
    - Koronis Three Islands
    - Lavender
    - Light Green (loc)
    - Matte Brown
    - Montville (network retry)
    - Painted Pony
    - Painted Pony Outcross Black
    - Painted Pony Outcross Brown
    - Pale (pdoc)
    - Pale Purple (pdoc)
    - Purple Dove
    - Purple Dove Odds (seven selections of pdoc)
    - Spot
    - Lines
    - Bland
    - Splotch
    - Top Mark
    - Bluish
    - Spotty Bluish
    - Red Ryder
    - Sacre Bleu (pole)
    - Skinny (pdoc)
    - Tinker's Fire
    - Venda
    - Vermont Appaloosa
    - Yed
    - Yellow Eye


    songbird


    Do you have any of those extraordinary pictures of your
    beans this year?

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 26 22:55:27 2024
    T wrote:
    ...
    Do you have any of those extraordinary pictures of your
    beans this year?

    i don't have any recent pictures edited and posted yet of
    the beans growing but this link should get you to the
    section of my bean page which shows most of the interesting
    out crosses i'm working with this year. the common named
    varieties i have pictures of also in different sections.

    https://www.anthive.com/project/beans/#chapter-2.2023

    sadly much of these pages need more work than i have time
    for right now so i hope my disorganisation isn't too horrid.
    :)

    if you click on the link of the image there is a larger
    image available than the thumbnail size.


    songbird

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  • From T@21:1/5 to songbird on Fri Jul 26 20:37:32 2024
    On 7/26/24 19:55, songbird wrote:
    T wrote:
    ...
    Do you have any of those extraordinary pictures of your
    beans this year?

    i don't have any recent pictures edited and posted yet of
    the beans growing but this link should get you to the
    section of my bean page which shows most of the interesting
    out crosses i'm working with this year. the common named
    varieties i have pictures of also in different sections.

    https://www.anthive.com/project/beans/#chapter-2.2023

    sadly much of these pages need more work than i have time
    for right now so i hope my disorganisation isn't too horrid.
    :)

    if you click on the link of the image there is a larger
    image available than the thumbnail size.


    songbird

    Awesome! You do have an eye for the camera.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 27 06:50:45 2024
    T wrote:
    ...
    Awesome! You do have an eye for the camera.

    ha! thank you! i personally feel that i don't really
    do that well with the picture taking, but it helps that i
    live with a person who has a good eye for decorations and
    whimsy so it gives me a lot of potential of getting good
    pictures one way or another.

    i still really haven't been very happy with the bean
    pictures and wish i had a super close up camera that
    could take detailed pictures of single beans that i
    could just feed through a hopper and it would get the
    pictures taken automatically without me having to
    fiddle around all the time. :)

    been weeding like crazy this past week and still a
    ways to go but at least the gardens look a lot better
    now than they did a bit ago. i'm so glad that Mom is
    able to help out. my normal routine was interrupted
    for a month when i was sick and then on top of that
    we had such wild rainy weather too often so it was
    hard for me to get out until the weeds were too big
    for scraping (which is critical for getting things
    done easily here). once the weeds get big enough to
    need pulling by hand that makes the whole process take
    a lot more time. especially when you have thousands
    of square feet of garden space and decorations to
    keep after.

    things are presentable now, but still a lot to do.
    one last round of weeding this morning and then lighter
    stuff for the afternoon and tomorrow as the weather is
    getting hot again.

    i did take before pictures so i can take after
    shots. most pictures i take i don't post as they are
    more for record keeping to remind me of all the things
    we get done around here. besides most of the pictures
    are just not that interesting. :)


    songbird

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Sat Jul 27 17:40:37 2024
    songbird wrote:

    T wrote:
    ...
    Awesome! You do have an eye for the camera.

    ha! thank you! i personally feel that i don't really
    do that well with the picture taking, but it helps that i
    live with a person who has a good eye for decorations and
    whimsy so it gives me a lot of potential of getting good
    pictures one way or another.

    i still really haven't been very happy with the bean
    pictures and wish i had a super close up camera that
    could take detailed pictures of single beans that i
    could just feed through a hopper and it would get the
    pictures taken automatically without me having to
    fiddle around all the time. :)

    been weeding like crazy this past week and still a
    ways to go but at least the gardens look a lot better
    now than they did a bit ago. i'm so glad that Mom is
    able to help out. my normal routine was interrupted
    for a month when i was sick and then on top of that
    we had such wild rainy weather too often so it was
    hard for me to get out until the weeds were too big
    for scraping (which is critical for getting things
    done easily here). once the weeds get big enough to
    need pulling by hand that makes the whole process take
    a lot more time. especially when you have thousands
    of square feet of garden space and decorations to
    keep after.

    things are presentable now, but still a lot to do.
    one last round of weeding this morning and then lighter
    stuff for the afternoon and tomorrow as the weather is
    getting hot again.

    i did take before pictures so i can take after
    shots. most pictures i take i don't post as they are
    more for record keeping to remind me of all the things
    we get done around here. besides most of the pictures
    are just not that interesting. :)


    songbird

    How much bean crop do you get on average? I have a recipe for you!

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sat Jul 27 17:25:43 2024
    cshenk wrote:
    ...about beans...
    How much bean crop do you get on average? I have a recipe for you!

    it varies between 15 - 25 lbs, maybe more when i grow more of
    the larger beans. when growing so many Purple Dove beans it
    isn't as much as they are a smaller bean.

    and then it also depends upon how many we eat fresh vs. what
    gets left to dry.


    songbird

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Sun Jul 28 16:12:13 2024
    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...about beans...
    How much bean crop do you get on average? I have a recipe for you!

    it varies between 15 - 25 lbs, maybe more when i grow more of
    the larger beans. when growing so many Purple Dove beans it
    isn't as much as they are a smaller bean.

    and then it also depends upon how many we eat fresh vs. what
    gets left to dry.


    songbird

    Wow. Thats a lot.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to cshenk on Sun Jul 28 20:09:45 2024
    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    Wow. Thats a lot.

    for a completely manual gardening system with not really
    enough space it is enough to keep me busy. especially
    when i often shell out and look at each individual bean
    and sometimes more than once. :)


    songbird

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Mon Jul 29 16:48:44 2024
    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    Wow. Thats a lot.

    for a completely manual gardening system with not really
    enough space it is enough to keep me busy. especially
    when i often shell out and look at each individual bean
    and sometimes more than once. :)


    songbird

    Yes. Did you like the recipe (posted in RFC). They use standard beans
    but a unique approach.

    Here it is again so you don't have to hunt for it.


    Subj : Nat Baked Beans Month - 5
    To : All
    From : Dave Drum (1:2320/105)
    Date : Wed Jul 24 2024 03:58 pm EST

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Caboose Baked Beans
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Fruits, Vegetables, Booze
    Yield: 12 Servings

    Water
    1 lb Dry navy or white pea beans
    1 lb Dry great northern beans
    1 lb Dry large lima beans
    2 tb Maple extract
    1 c Light brown sugar; packed
    3 tb Brown prepared mustard; as
    - bold/spicy as you can find
    2 tb Orange marmalade
    2 lg Onions; chopped
    1 "Big chunk" salt pork
    1/2 c Cold strong coffee
    1 c Apple butter;plain or spiced
    2 c Lloyds-brand shredded pork
    - BBQ meat
    15 oz Diced, chopped, or stewed
    -tomatoes w/onions & peppers
    3/4 c Molasses
    2 tb Chopped garlic
    3/4 c Ketchup
    1 tb Seasoned salt
    1 tb Black pepper
    3/4 c Dark honey; the darker the
    - better
    1/2 c Meyers dark rum or Jack
    - Daniels whiskey
    1 c Hickory smoke BBQ sauce
    3 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 (2") cinnamon stick

    DAY ONE: Pick over the dry beans to remove any dirt,
    stones, or other foreign materials. Then in a large (and I
    do mean LARGE) pot, rinse the beans. Then bring the beans
    to a boil in the large pot after covering them with a lot
    of water. They're going to soak up a ton of water and grow
    to be about twice as big as they were when dry. Boil them
    for two minutes, take them off the heat, cover the pot,
    and let them stand for a full hour. After that, put them
    back on the stove and simmer on low heat for an hour and a
    half, still covered.

    Pour the beans and their liquid into a bowl, cover it, and
    put it in the refrigerator overnight. Yes, overnight. This
    recipe is going to take two days.

    DAY TWO: In the morning, drain all but 2 cups of the bean
    water.

    To the beans and water add all the other ingredents. Mix
    very well. Put it all into the crock pot (it may take
    several crock pots, depending on how big yours are). Cook
    on low setting for 13 to 14 hours. Stir it now and then,
    but don't take the lid off very often, as this slows
    cooking significantly.

    When your long wait is over, sit back and enjoy your pot
    of caboose beans, The wait is definitely worth it.

    Serves 12

    RECIPE FROM: http://www.grouprecipes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

    You can ignore any brand names and swap to likely beans of yours and
    make your own BBQ pork out of pork butt in a really big crockpot.

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  • From songbird@21:1/5 to cshenk on Mon Jul 29 18:40:49 2024
    cshenk wrote:
    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    Wow. Thats a lot.

    for a completely manual gardening system with not really
    enough space it is enough to keep me busy. especially
    when i often shell out and look at each individual bean
    and sometimes more than once. :)


    songbird

    Yes. Did you like the recipe (posted in RFC). They use standard beans
    but a unique approach.

    didn't see it, been too busy lately.


    Here it is again so you don't have to hunt for it.

    ... thanks but that isn't something we'd make.
    smoke flavors, whisky/rum,etc., pepper and other spices
    that Mom has no tolerance for at all. :( almost every
    commercial bbq sauce puts pepper or hot stuff in their
    sauce.

    i would give them a try if someone else made them.


    songbird

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  • From cshenk@21:1/5 to songbird on Tue Jul 30 17:30:33 2024
    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    songbird wrote:

    cshenk wrote:
    ...
    Wow. Thats a lot.

    for a completely manual gardening system with not really
    enough space it is enough to keep me busy. especially
    when i often shell out and look at each individual bean
    and sometimes more than once. :)


    songbird

    Yes. Did you like the recipe (posted in RFC). They use standard
    beans but a unique approach.

    didn't see it, been too busy lately.


    Here it is again so you don't have to hunt for it.

    ... thanks but that isn't something we'd make.
    smoke flavors, whisky/rum,etc., pepper and other spices
    that Mom has no tolerance for at all. :( almost every
    commercial bbq sauce puts pepper or hot stuff in their
    sauce.

    i would give them a try if someone else made them.


    songbird

    Ah, ok. I considered making it without any BBQ smoke flavoring
    9 (I don't like it either). For me, it's a 3 day recipe (day one, make
    pulled pork and portion then vacuum seal, leaving enough for this dish
    and meaty bone. You leave out the pepper (We'd reduce it). Replace
    the rum with pork broth or beef broth.

    Title: Caboose Baked Beans
    Categories: Beans, Pork, Fruits, Vegetables, Booze
    Yield: 12 Servings

    Water
    1 lb Dry navy or white pea beans
    1 lb Dry great northern beans
    1 lb Dry large lima beans
    2 tb Maple extract
    1 c Light brown sugar; packed
    3 tb Brown prepared mustard; as
    - bold/spicy as you can find
    2 tb Orange marmalade
    2 lg Onions; chopped
    1 "Big chunk" salt pork
    1/2 c Cold strong coffee
    1 c Apple butter;plain or spiced
    2 c home made pulled pork
    15 oz Diced, chopped, or stewed
    -tomatoes w/onions and bell peppers
    3/4 c Molasses
    2 tb Chopped garlic
    3/4 c Ketchup
    1 tb salt
    2.5 c Pork or beef broth
    3 tb Worcestershire sauce
    1 (2") cinnamon stick

    (edited for songbird's mom, pepper free and no alcohol or spicy
    peppers).

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