So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru the
soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes in 4"
pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few more days .
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On 2025-03-07, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru the
soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes in 4"
pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few more days .

i need to fortify my woodchuck defense before growing greens,
cauliflower, broccoli, etc, again. last year i got the seeds in
very early and had beautiful looking plants growing. previously
i had started them too late and they bolted from the heat. last
year, the woodchuck got through the fence around the raised beds
and had itself quite the feast leaving me with mostly plant
stumps.

this spring i'm going to rototill a trench right next to the
fence all the way around a foot deep and as wide as the tiller
tines, about 2 feet, and bury galvanized expanded metal
vertically and horizontally along the fence in the trench.
which reminds me. i need to source the expanded metal and get
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

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On 3/7/2025 9:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:

On 2025-03-07, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru the
soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes in 4"
pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few more days .

i need to fortify my woodchuck defense before growing greens,
cauliflower, broccoli, etc, again. last year i got the seeds in
very early and had beautiful looking plants growing. previously
i had started them too late and they bolted from the heat. last
year, the woodchuck got through the fence around the raised beds
and had itself quite the feast leaving me with mostly plant
stumps.

this spring i'm going to rototill a trench right next to the
fence all the way around a foot deep and as wide as the tiller
tines, about 2 feet, and bury galvanized expanded metal
vertically and horizontally along the fence in the trench.
which reminds me. i need to source the expanded metal and get
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

Chicken wire . I use a 24" wide 1" chicken wire with the bottom 6"
folded to the outside . I have a steel wire supporting the top with 3
strands of electrified wire above that . The bottom electric wire is
just an inch or two above the top of the chicken wire so small critters
can't just crawl over it . This has stopped everything but armadillos
including the local bears . 'Dillos just bull thru , they're like tanks
. The only 2 things I've found that will stop them is a bullet or my dog
. If Max (75 pound Mountain Cur) gets a hold of one it's crunch city .
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Snag wrote:

On 3/7/2025 9:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:

On 2025-03-07, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru

the

soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes
in 4" pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few
more days .

i need to fortify my woodchuck defense before growing greens,
cauliflower, broccoli, etc, again. last year i got the seeds in
very early and had beautiful looking plants growing. previously
i had started them too late and they bolted from the heat. last
year, the woodchuck got through the fence around the raised beds
and had itself quite the feast leaving me with mostly plant
stumps.

this spring i'm going to rototill a trench right next to the
fence all the way around a foot deep and as wide as the tiller
tines, about 2 feet, and bury galvanized expanded metal
vertically and horizontally along the fence in the trench.
which reminds me. i need to source the expanded metal and get
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

Chicken wire . I use a 24" wide 1" chicken wire with the bottom 6"
folded to the outside . I have a steel wire supporting the top with 3
strands of electrified wire above that . The bottom electric wire is
just an inch or two above the top of the chicken wire so small
critters can't just crawl over it . This has stopped everything but armadillos including the local bears . 'Dillos just bull thru ,
they're like tanks . The only 2 things I've found that will stop them
is a bullet or my dog . If Max (75 pound Mountain Cur) gets a hold of
one it's crunch city .

Although my garden didn't work well last year,I DID manage an effective
rat defense. Marigolds and spearmint.

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On 3/7/2025 5:52 PM, Carol wrote:

Snag wrote:

On 3/7/2025 9:48 AM, fos@sdf.org wrote:

On 2025-03-07, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:

So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru

the

soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes
in 4" pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few
more days .

i need to fortify my woodchuck defense before growing greens,
cauliflower, broccoli, etc, again. last year i got the seeds in
very early and had beautiful looking plants growing. previously
i had started them too late and they bolted from the heat. last
year, the woodchuck got through the fence around the raised beds
and had itself quite the feast leaving me with mostly plant
stumps.

this spring i'm going to rototill a trench right next to the
fence all the way around a foot deep and as wide as the tiller
tines, about 2 feet, and bury galvanized expanded metal
vertically and horizontally along the fence in the trench.
which reminds me. i need to source the expanded metal and get
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

Chicken wire . I use a 24" wide 1" chicken wire with the bottom 6"
folded to the outside . I have a steel wire supporting the top with 3
strands of electrified wire above that . The bottom electric wire is
just an inch or two above the top of the chicken wire so small
critters can't just crawl over it . This has stopped everything but
armadillos including the local bears . 'Dillos just bull thru ,
they're like tanks . The only 2 things I've found that will stop them
is a bullet or my dog . If Max (75 pound Mountain Cur) gets a hold of
one it's crunch city .

Although my garden didn't work well last year,I DID manage an effective
rat defense. Marigolds and spearmint.

Small furry mammals don't live long around here . Miz Kitty FatCat ,
Mr Black , Mama Ruby and recently shown up Lady Marmalade are all
accomplished hunters . Added benefit of lower rodent population is
lowered copperhead population ... we live in a clearing out in the woods
and it's always a trade off with the local wildlife .
I'm going to be trying some container gardening this year . A local hardware/lumber/etc store had 2 cf bags of Miracle-Gro potting mix for
10 bucks a bag so I grabbed a couple today . Might grab a couple more
tomorrow when I go to the local grocery's annual March Madness Meat Sale
. The only time I can afford steak so I stock up and vacuum bag/freeze
them .
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Snag wrote:

On 3/7/2025 5:52 PM, Carol wrote:

(Trimmed)

Although my garden didn't work well last year,I DID manage an
effective rat defense. Marigolds and spearmint.

Small furry mammals don't live long around here . Miz Kitty FatCat ,
Mr Black , Mama Ruby and recently shown up Lady Marmalade are all accomplished hunters . Added benefit of lower rodent population is
lowered copperhead population ... we live in a clearing out in the
woods and it's always a trade off with the local wildlife.

Lucky you!

I'm
going to be trying some container gardening this year . A local hardware/lumber/etc store had 2 cf bags of Miracle-Gro potting mix
for 10 bucks a bag so I grabbed a couple today . Might grab a couple
more tomorrow when I go to the local grocery's annual March Madness
Meat Sale . The only time I can afford steak so I stock up and vacuum bag/freeze them .

Container gardening can be fun! Here's one difference, Watering isn't
the same as they have no connection to the water in the soil. YYou
need drainage holes but you can dry out fast due to them. We line the
bottom with the legs from okd jeans which helps ot not drain too fast
amd retain some water.

We do similar with sales meat.

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fos@sdf.org wrote:
...

i need to fortify my woodchuck defense before growing greens,
cauliflower, broccoli, etc, again. last year i got the seeds in
very early and had beautiful looking plants growing. previously
i had started them too late and they bolted from the heat. last
year, the woodchuck got through the fence around the raised beds
and had itself quite the feast leaving me with mostly plant
stumps.

this spring i'm going to rototill a trench right next to the
fence all the way around a foot deep and as wide as the tiller
tines, about 2 feet, and bury galvanized expanded metal
vertically and horizontally along the fence in the trench.
which reminds me. i need to source the expanded metal and get
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

they can climb so you need some kind of fence they won't
like trying to get over. raccoons are the same and why we
don't even bother trying to grow sweet corn here. they end
up getting it before we do.

chicken wire may work for a short time, but it isn't very
good longer term and fails within a few years.


songbird

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Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> writes:

So far I've got lettuce and bok choi seedlings peeping up thru the
soil . I've also got carrots in a tray and peppers and tomatoes in
4" pots but I don't expect to see any action there for a few more
days .

We just finally got eggplant, tomatoes, and pepper seed in a seed flat. A little late in the season, but not too late. We're direct seeding squashes and root veggies tomorrow. Hoping for a good year with lots of stuff for canning and drying in our new Xcaliber dehydrator!

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fos@sdf.org writes:

On 2025-03-07, Snag <Snag_one@msn.com> wrote:
my oxy-acetylene tanks filled. welding for gardening? would that
make it heavy metal gardening? :P

nice.

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