• Fairing Surprise

    From sticks@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 1 20:14:34 2023
    My turn to buy. I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought. Looked
    into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in the upper
    outside corner of the fairing. I would have liked to use this option,
    and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design, unfortunately the
    garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the tomtom screws from the
    inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be able to reach the holes
    properly, and tomtom was round while the zumo was rectangular. blah,
    blah, just decided it wasn't worth trying to make it work. So I went
    with the Ram mounts that came with the rider 550, but chose not to use
    the ubolt base, and instead bought the Ram Torque base for appearance
    and a much better stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u>

    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together. It's not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll get used
    to it. I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring. That part will be
    super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available for something
    in European models and is unused on my American bike. But, I checked
    for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get cracked. I'll be
    damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I had heard about,
    along with both of the speaker support brackets. The good news is I
    searched around and there is a Harley guy in Michigan who is a machinist
    by trade and had this problem on his bike. He came up with some
    machined parts for replacing with everything together and it can be done
    in about a half hour. Stainless parts and he includes all the hardware
    and even a drill bit for about $48. He's sold thousands of these. If
    you have a pre 2010 bagger and your mirror is getting a bit shaky and
    hard to see out of, this might be your problem, too. The factory part
    is total shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the hookup,
    wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have another beer!

    sticks

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Mar 2 16:24:20 2023
    On 3/1/2023 8:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    My turn to buy.  I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought.  Looked
    into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in the upper
    outside corner of the fairing.  I would have liked to use this option,
    and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design, unfortunately the
    garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the tomtom screws from the
    inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be able to reach the holes
    properly, and tomtom was round while the zumo was rectangular.  blah,
    blah, just decided it wasn't worth trying to make it work.  So I went
    with the Ram mounts that came with the rider 550, but chose not to use
    the ubolt base, and instead bought the Ram Torque base for appearance
    and a much better stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u>

    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together.  It's not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll get used
    to it.  I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring.  That part will be super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available for something
    in European models and is unused on my American bike.  But, I checked
    for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get cracked.  I'll be
    damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I had heard about,
    along with both of the speaker support brackets.  The good news is I searched around and there is a Harley guy in Michigan who is a machinist
    by trade and had this problem on his bike.  He came up with some
    machined parts for replacing with everything together and it can be done
    in about a half hour.  Stainless parts and he includes all the hardware
    and even a drill bit for about $48.  He's sold thousands of these.  If
    you have a pre 2010 bagger and your mirror is getting a bit shaky and
    hard to see out of, this might be your problem, too.  The factory part
    is total shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the hookup,
    wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have another beer!

    sticks


    Well, I guess I spoke too soon on the kit for repair. The secure money transaction yesterday seemed a little funky to me so I emailed the guy
    to see if it all was good. He responded that he didn't do it anymore
    because someone stole his design and undercut him, couldn't seem to find
    his web guy to remove his page, and promised to refund my money this
    evening.
    Seemed like a decent guy, hopefully he's honest.

    ...looking for parts again.

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Mar 4 09:35:49 2023
    On 3/2/2023 3:24 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/1/2023 8:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    My turn to buy.  I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought.
    Looked into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in the
    upper outside corner of the fairing.  I would have liked to use this
    option, and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design,
    unfortunately the garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the
    tomtom screws from the inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be
    able to reach the holes properly, and tomtom was round while the zumo
    was rectangular.  blah, blah, just decided it wasn't worth trying to
    make it work.  So I went with the Ram mounts that came with the rider
    550, but chose not to use the ubolt base, and instead bought the Ram
    Torque base for appearance and a much better stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u> >>
    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together.  It's
    not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll get
    used to it.  I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring.  That part will
    be super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available for
    something in European models and is unused on my American bike.  But,
    I checked for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get cracked.
    I'll be damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I had heard
    about, along with both of the speaker support brackets.  The good news
    is I searched around and there is a Harley guy in Michigan who is a
    machinist by trade and had this problem on his bike.  He came up with
    some machined parts for replacing with everything together and it can
    be done in about a half hour.  Stainless parts and he includes all the
    hardware and even a drill bit for about $48.  He's sold thousands of
    these.  If you have a pre 2010 bagger and your mirror is getting a bit
    shaky and hard to see out of, this might be your problem, too.  The
    factory part is total shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the hookup,
    wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have another beer!

    sticks


    Well, I guess I spoke too soon on the kit for repair.  The secure money transaction yesterday seemed a little funky to me so I emailed the guy
    to see if it all was good.  He responded that he didn't do it anymore because someone stole his design and undercut him, couldn't seem to find
    his web guy to remove his page, and promised to refund my money this
    evening.
    Seemed like a decent guy, hopefully he's honest.

    ...looking for parts again.



    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but generally
    I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond perfect. Its
    not worth it for me unless I can mass produce. Most people won't pay it
    for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.



    --
    Bob La Londe
    Proffessional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a
    real machinist


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Mar 4 11:10:39 2023
    On 3/4/2023 10:35 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 3/2/2023 3:24 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/1/2023 8:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    My turn to buy.  I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought.
    Looked into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in the
    upper outside corner of the fairing.  I would have liked to use this
    option, and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design,
    unfortunately the garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the
    tomtom screws from the inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be
    able to reach the holes properly, and tomtom was round while the zumo
    was rectangular.  blah, blah, just decided it wasn't worth trying to
    make it work.  So I went with the Ram mounts that came with the rider
    550, but chose not to use the ubolt base, and instead bought the Ram
    Torque base for appearance and a much better stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u>

    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together.  It's
    not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll get
    used to it.  I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring.  That part will
    be super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available for
    something in European models and is unused on my American bike.  But,
    I checked for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get cracked.
    I'll be damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I had heard
    about, along with both of the speaker support brackets.  The good
    news is I searched around and there is a Harley guy in Michigan who
    is a machinist by trade and had this problem on his bike.  He came up
    with some machined parts for replacing with everything together and
    it can be done in about a half hour.  Stainless parts and he includes
    all the hardware and even a drill bit for about $48.  He's sold
    thousands of these.  If you have a pre 2010 bagger and your mirror is
    getting a bit shaky and hard to see out of, this might be your
    problem, too.  The factory part is total shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the hookup,
    wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have another beer!

    sticks


    Well, I guess I spoke too soon on the kit for repair.  The secure
    money transaction yesterday seemed a little funky to me so I emailed
    the guy to see if it all was good.  He responded that he didn't do it
    anymore because someone stole his design and undercut him, couldn't
    seem to find his web guy to remove his page, and promised to refund my
    money this evening.
    Seemed like a decent guy, hopefully he's honest.

    ...looking for parts again.



    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but generally
    I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond perfect.  Its
    not worth it for me unless I can mass produce.  Most people won't pay it
    for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.

    I quickly found the competitors on ebay he was talking about. Hated to
    give the business to a probably chinese company, but these were only
    $15. They look exactly like the ones the guy that figured it out had.

    This is the guy I think started this. He is out of this now, but can't
    seem to get the webpage down.
    <https://www.nwmachine.com/rfw/>

    This is one of the people selling them now. Look the same.

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/234089878480>

    The fix for the fairing bracket would have been pretty simple. The
    speaker support brackets a little more complicated. But for $15 screw
    it. I just ordered them.

    My son is a talented machinist, and has a shop aside from his full time
    job. He is in the process of getting a 3 axis machine for doing his own
    work. Currently he uses the machines at work, they don't seem to mind.
    I just hating asking him to do much of anything. He's young, got a
    life, and I want to support him. Not the other way around. When I need things, if I can't do it myself, I'd rather just pay someone to do it.
    Plus, he races Street Stock division and I'd rather he worked on his
    car. Gotta get on the podium more.

    Anyway, got the GPS all finished. That accessory wire on the headlamp
    lead was perfect. It has power on accessory too, so turn key on the GPS
    fires up. Turn it off it goes to sleep.

    Bracket part should be here Monday and can get it all back together
    shortly. After poking around inside the fairing a bit, it is amazing
    shit doesn't fail more often in there. The radio system for one. It
    must all be designed just right to keep water out, even though it
    doesn't look like it would be in bad weather. But I've ridden in some
    heavy rains and it all seems to keep working. Knock of f'ing wood.

    Grab a drink. I saved a few bucks on the parts.

    sticks

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Mar 4 11:00:57 2023
    On 3/4/2023 10:10 AM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/4/2023 10:35 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 3/2/2023 3:24 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/1/2023 8:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    My turn to buy.  I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought.
    Looked into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in
    the upper outside corner of the fairing.  I would have liked to use
    this option, and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design,
    unfortunately the garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the
    tomtom screws from the inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be
    able to reach the holes properly, and tomtom was round while the
    zumo was rectangular.  blah, blah, just decided it wasn't worth
    trying to make it work.  So I went with the Ram mounts that came
    with the rider 550, but chose not to use the ubolt base, and instead
    bought the Ram Torque base for appearance and a much better
    stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u>

    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together.  It's
    not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll
    get used to it.  I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring.  That part
    will be super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available
    for something in European models and is unused on my American bike.
    But, I checked for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get
    cracked. I'll be damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I
    had heard about, along with both of the speaker support brackets.
    The good news is I searched around and there is a Harley guy in
    Michigan who is a machinist by trade and had this problem on his
    bike.  He came up with some machined parts for replacing with
    everything together and it can be done in about a half hour.
    Stainless parts and he includes all the hardware and even a drill
    bit for about $48.  He's sold thousands of these.  If you have a pre >>>> 2010 bagger and your mirror is getting a bit shaky and hard to see
    out of, this might be your problem, too.  The factory part is total
    shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the
    hookup, wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have
    another beer!

    sticks


    Well, I guess I spoke too soon on the kit for repair.  The secure
    money transaction yesterday seemed a little funky to me so I emailed
    the guy to see if it all was good.  He responded that he didn't do it
    anymore because someone stole his design and undercut him, couldn't
    seem to find his web guy to remove his page, and promised to refund
    my money this evening.
    Seemed like a decent guy, hopefully he's honest.

    ...looking for parts again.



    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but
    generally I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond
    perfect.  Its not worth it for me unless I can mass produce.  Most
    people won't pay it for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.

    I quickly found the competitors on ebay he was talking about.  Hated to
    give the business to a probably chinese company, but these were only
    $15.  They look exactly like the ones the guy that figured it out had.

    This is the guy I think started this.  He is out of this now, but can't
    seem to get the webpage down.
    <https://www.nwmachine.com/rfw/>

    This is one of the people selling them now.  Look the same.

    <https://www.ebay.com/itm/234089878480>

    The fix for the fairing bracket would have been pretty simple.  The
    speaker support brackets a little more complicated.  But for $15 screw
    it.  I just ordered them.

    My son is a talented machinist, and has a shop aside from his full time job.  He is in the process of getting a 3 axis machine for doing his own work.  Currently he uses the machines at work, they don't seem to mind.
    I just hating asking him to do much of anything.  He's young, got a
    life, and I want to support him.  Not the other way around.  When I need things, if I can't do it myself, I'd rather just pay someone to do it.
    Plus, he races Street Stock division and I'd rather he worked on his
    car.  Gotta get on the podium more.

    Anyway, got the GPS all finished.  That accessory wire on the headlamp
    lead was perfect.  It has power on accessory too, so turn key on the GPS fires up.  Turn it off it goes to sleep.

    Bracket part should be here Monday and can get it all back together shortly.  After poking around inside the fairing a bit, it is amazing
    shit doesn't fail more often in there.  The radio system for one.  It
    must all be designed just right to keep water out, even though it
    doesn't look like it would be in bad weather.  But I've ridden in some
    heavy rains and it all seems to keep working.  Knock of f'ing wood.

    Grab a drink.  I saved a few bucks on the parts.

    sticks


    Thanks for for the shot of High West. Good for you. I often have
    "friends" ask me if I think I can make something, but "only if its no
    big deal." If they say they can't afford to pay me and they need the
    part to sell something and save their house. Sure. No problem. They
    don't even have to be a friend.

    If they will only ALLOW me to help them only if its, "no big deal," I
    say its, "Its no big deal if you are willing to pay for time and
    material. I can absolutely make that part."

    Many years ago when I was learning to making fishing tackle molds I
    would get on Tackle Underground and offer to make molds for people for
    free if it looked like an interesting learning experience. Most atleast
    had the decency to act appreciative. One or two got nasty when I took
    longer than they wanted because I was learning how to do something. One
    guy said, "I'll only let you make my mold if I can be sure to get more
    molds in the future." No shit. NOBODY, who I ever made a free mold for
    ever paid me to make a mold later. They paid nothing and valued me at
    nothing.

    In more recent years I'll get somebody shopping around for a new mold
    maker contact me, get a price, and tell me how outrageous I am, and how
    they have a guy who will make it for 1/3-1/2 of that. If they share
    that with me I'll usually say something like, "Oh it sounds like you
    have a personal friend cutting you a deal. Why are you shopping around
    if you have somebody that cuts you such a great deal?" Almost
    universally I get some form of they won't answer their calls or return
    their messages lately. Unless they have pissed me off I don't usually
    say the quiet part out loud. "Yeah if you paid them a fair wage they
    might answer your calls." Usually I say, well, "I hope you find
    somebody, if you do let me know I might sub some work out to them if
    they are that reasonable. If not you know about what I will charge, but
    be aware my quotes are only good for ten days."

    Ah, that was a good double rye. Thank you. Have another beer on me,
    but I gotta run. Sorry about the rant.


    --
    Bob La Londe
    Proffessional Hack, Hobbyist, Wannabe, Shade Tree, Button Pushing, Not a
    real machinist


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  • From Snag@21:1/5 to Bob La Londe on Sat Mar 4 12:19:41 2023
    On 3/4/2023 10:35 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
    On 3/2/2023 3:24 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/1/2023 8:14 PM, sticks wrote:
    My turn to buy.  I'll have a beer, have whatever you likes.

    Got around to installing the new TomTom Rider 550 GPS I bought.
    Looked into using the HD part for the zumo GPS mount that goes in the
    upper outside corner of the fairing.  I would have liked to use this
    option, and the bolt pattern was the standard AMPS design,
    unfortunately the garmin gets screwed in from the outside and the
    tomtom screws from the inside and I wasn't sure for one I would be
    able to reach the holes properly, and tomtom was round while the zumo
    was rectangular.  blah, blah, just decided it wasn't worth trying to
    make it work.  So I went with the Ram mounts that came with the rider
    550, but chose not to use the ubolt base, and instead bought the Ram
    Torque base for appearance and a much better stabilized base.

    <https://rammount.com/collections/motorcycle-bases/products/ram-b-408-75-1u>


    I'll put some picks up next door when it is all back together.  It's
    not perfect, but I'm sure once I start being able to use it, I'll get
    used to it.  I put it on the left handlebars.

    So I got the outer fairing off to install the wiring.  That part will
    be super easy as the headlight has the extra wiring available for
    something in European models and is unused on my American bike.  But,
    I checked for the dreaded fairing support brackets that get cracked.
    I'll be damned, but both of mine were cracked exactly as I had heard
    about, along with both of the speaker support brackets.  The good
    news is I searched around and there is a Harley guy in Michigan who
    is a machinist by trade and had this problem on his bike.  He came up
    with some machined parts for replacing with everything together and
    it can be done in about a half hour.  Stainless parts and he includes
    all the hardware and even a drill bit for about $48.  He's sold
    thousands of these.  If you have a pre 2010 bagger and your mirror is
    getting a bit shaky and hard to see out of, this might be your
    problem, too.  The factory part is total shit.

    In the meantime, I'll get the proper electrical clips for the hookup,
    wait for the support hardware fix to come in, and have another beer!

    sticks


    Well, I guess I spoke too soon on the kit for repair.  The secure
    money transaction yesterday seemed a little funky to me so I emailed
    the guy to see if it all was good.  He responded that he didn't do it
    anymore because someone stole his design and undercut him, couldn't
    seem to find his web guy to remove his page, and promised to refund my
    money this evening.
    Seemed like a decent guy, hopefully he's honest.

    ...looking for parts again.



    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but generally
    I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond perfect.  Its
    not worth it for me unless I can mass produce.  Most people won't pay it
    for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.




    I couldn't beat that Ragan guy's price . I could repair ans reinforce
    them for a few bucks ...
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    Snag
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Snag on Sat Mar 4 17:04:47 2023
    On 3/4/2023 12:19 PM, Snag wrote:

    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but
    generally I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond
    perfect.  Its not worth it for me unless I can mass produce.  Most
    people won't pay it for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.


      I couldn't beat that Ragan guy's price . I could repair ans reinforce them for a few bucks ...

    When I saw his original video, I thought it was a decent price where a
    guy solved a problem by making a part that was gonna have a big demand
    and he could make a few bucks in the process. I like supporting that
    kind of person. I can see how he just gave up when someone steals your
    design and makes the four different parts, includes the nuts and bolts,
    and even a drill bit for $15. I guess that's how the world works. I
    think they're users, but I guess I'm part of the problem because I
    bought the part.

    Metal work, especially fabrication, is something I'm pretty much a
    butcher at. It better be hidden if it is something I'm gonna do. I got
    a major respect for the son, and his talents. I'm working on a pig
    roaster we've had in the family for about 60 years. It had an old
    carbon steel spit that I figured I should upgrade. All stainless 404 is
    what I went with. I had no idea what I was getting into. The main rod
    is 7/8" hex across the flats. 4 3/8" rods that can also be used. 8
    1/2" points for the front and back mounted on flat plates with boxed
    locking works for everything. Got it all cut and bent. I got all the
    points done with a grinder, struggled through getting the holes drilled
    (1/4" rods for birds on the main spit, 9 of them) eventually having to
    use the kids drill press. Though I can weld, when it came to doing it,
    I paid someone. Way too much time and money getting everything ready
    for me to butcher it all up. The whole process gave me a new respect
    for people who can make things in metal! Working with stainless was way
    outta my league.

    I mounted it on a Military Humvee Schutt M116A2 trailer in honor of my
    dad (Korean War Vet) set up so I can take it around and lend it to
    friends if they want. Can't wait for the weather to break so I can test
    it out.

    Damn, that was long winded. I better get another round.

    sticks

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  • From Bob La Londe@21:1/5 to sticks on Sat Mar 4 16:16:29 2023
    On 3/4/2023 4:04 PM, sticks wrote:
    On 3/4/2023 12:19 PM, Snag wrote:

    This may be more cosmetic than you want to tackle but if you are in a
    nearby state either of you might need an excuse to take a ride.

    I've debated making specialty MC parts myself a few times, but
    generally I avoid it, because they have to be so cosmetically beyond
    perfect.  Its not worth it for me unless I can mass produce.  Most
    people won't pay it for one part.

    I've made bar risers, camera mounts, and other stuff a few times, but
    only for myself.


       I couldn't beat that Ragan guy's price . I could repair ans
    reinforce them for a few bucks ...

    When I saw his original video, I thought it was a decent price where a
    guy solved a problem by making a part that was gonna have a big demand
    and he could make a few bucks in the process.  I like supporting that
    kind of person.  I can see how he just gave up when someone steals your design and makes the four different parts, includes the nuts and bolts,
    and even a drill bit for $15.  I guess that's how the world works.  I
    think they're users, but I guess I'm part of the problem because I
    bought the part.

    Metal work, especially fabrication, is something I'm pretty much a
    butcher at.  It better be hidden if it is something I'm gonna do.  I got
    a major respect for the son, and his talents.  I'm working on a pig
    roaster we've had in the family for about 60 years.  It had an old
    carbon steel spit that I figured I should upgrade.  All stainless 404 is what I went with.  I had no idea what I was getting into.  The main rod
    is 7/8" hex across the flats.  4 3/8" rods that can also be used.  8
    1/2" points for the front and back mounted on flat plates with boxed
    locking works for everything.  Got it all cut and bent.  I got all the points done with a grinder, struggled through getting the holes drilled
    (1/4" rods for birds on the main spit, 9 of them) eventually having to
    use the kids drill press.  Though I can weld, when it came to doing it,
    I paid someone.  Way too much time and money getting everything ready
    for me to butcher it all up.  The whole process gave me a new respect
    for people who can make things in metal!  Working with stainless was way outta my league.

    I mounted it on a Military Humvee Schutt M116A2 trailer in honor of my
    dad (Korean War Vet) set up so I can take it around and lend it to
    friends if they want.  Can't wait for the weather to break so I can test
    it out.

    Damn, that was long winded.  I better get another round.

    sticks


    The part that frustrates me is that unless you are a very large volume
    buyer you often can't buy the material for the price of the finished
    part off shore. To add insult to injury, generally those very large
    volume buyers have zero interest in making low volume parts like that.
    Thanks aren't just cheaper from China because of the low price of labor.


    --
    Bob La Londe
    CNC Molds N Stuff


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