I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of an older
Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their blow clunker is a
secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because I
like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard
top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard anybody
in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
On 7/16/2023 1:05 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of anOh shit , I thought that helmet belonged to Roger Mauck ! Sorry 'bout that . Isn't the original Miata powered by a rotary ? Three rotor IIRC .
older Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from
there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started
thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty
straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their
blow clunker is a secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because
I like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard
top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard
anybody in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
What a piece of shit motor , we had a '72 RX3 for a while . Ran like a striped ass ape , but got worse mileage than the 350 1968 LeMans Pontiac
we traded in on it .
I got the next round .
On 7/16/2023 2:07 PM, Snag wrote:
On 7/16/2023 1:05 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of anOh shit , I thought that helmet belonged to Roger Mauck ! Sorry 'bout that . Isn't the original Miata powered by a rotary ? Three rotor IIRC . What a piece of shit motor , we had a '72 RX3 for a while . Ran like a striped ass ape , but got worse mileage than the 350 1968 LeMans Pontiac we traded in on it .
older Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from
there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started
thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty
straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their
blow clunker is a secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because
I like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard
top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard
anybody in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
I got the next round .
The RX7 and the RX3 had rotary engines. I was coming back late from a
date driving a buddy's RX3 one night and the throttle stuck. I don't
know how fast it reved when I stepped on the clutch, but I expected
there would have been a new crater in the road if I hadn't turned off
the ignition. The throttle mechanically had bound up passing a truck,
but I was able to pop it free and drive home.
As far as I know the Miata (MX-5) always had a standard reciprocating engine. My wife had a 1990 when I met her, and it had a little 4 banger developing maybe 90HP. It was "quick" if you knew how to "drive" a
stick. My first car was a 67 Ford (English) Cortina GT (not really
fast) with a stick so I was used to it.
I felt like, while it was definitely not faster, the old 90HP Miata
handled better than the RX7. I only got to drive an RX7 a couple times
so take that with a grain of salt. I do have one anecdote to share on
it however. Driving the back road into Julian I was dogging an RX7 in
all the turn's driving Patti's Miata. He would pull out on the straight
a bit, but into the next declining radius turn and I'd be on him. After
a couple of those he eased over and waived me by.
Totally fun, another time running up Yarnell hill headed for Prescott I
was driving the Miata loaded down pretty heavy with a trunk bag strapped
on the back full of camping gear. Yarnel hill has killed a few bikers
and even a few cagers, but I've been going up that hill my whole life.
My future wife's room mate was riding on the back of a ZX11 with her boyfriend. He said, "I hope you can keep up."
I never drove it back when it was just a two lane, but I remember it.
Its a "little" safer today.
I replied, "Yeah we'll wait for you at the first gas station in town."
I didn't know if he could really ride that machine, if he would push a
road he didn't know that well in the dark, or if the first time he laid
into it in a turn she would beat the crap out of him to slow down. I
didn't really even consider it could have been deadly for both of them
if he really tried to push it going up that mountain. In any case I
figured if he could ride half smart he would take it easy in the turns
and blast out in the straights. I expect for certain he'd pass me
halfway up the first long straight section.
I don't recall why exactly, but I wound up a few minutes ahead of them
going up the hill. Maybe they gave me a head start. I forget. I hit
that first hard turn, braked in, and pushed out hard, and he still
hadn't caught me. There was a little sand on the road near the hill and
I felt the car slide just a little and thought to myself, "Okay, that's
the limit," If we hadn't been loaded down in back I might have slid out
and hit the mountain. I don't think so, but it sounds more exciting if
I tell it that way. I kept in it all the way to the top of the hill,
and oddly I was more nervous about the faster weaving turns in the trees
up top than I was about the hard turns coming up the hill.
All the way through the woods and I never saw anybody behind me. We
finally saw a place near Prescott where I stopped. I parked close to
the rode where he could see the car, and it was maybe 15-20 minutes
before he rolled in behind me. He just said, "I want to do that again without a passenger." I didn't ask if he had sore ribs.
I figure a heavy battery in the back of a Miata in place of the gas
tank, and a decent high voltage multi phase electric up front and it
could be a micro beast, or a it could be an economy e-car basically at
the flip of a switch.
--
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On Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 3:27:23 PM UTC-7, Bob La Londe wrote:
On 7/16/2023 2:07 PM, Snag wrote:
On 7/16/2023 1:05 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:The RX7 and the RX3 had rotary engines. I was coming back late from a
I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of anOh shit , I thought that helmet belonged to Roger Mauck ! Sorry 'bout >>> that . Isn't the original Miata powered by a rotary ? Three rotor IIRC . >>> What a piece of shit motor , we had a '72 RX3 for a while . Ran like a
older Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from
there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started
thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty
straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their
blow clunker is a secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because
I like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard >>>> top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard
anybody in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
striped ass ape , but got worse mileage than the 350 1968 LeMans Pontiac >>> we traded in on it .
I got the next round .
date driving a buddy's RX3 one night and the throttle stuck. I don't
know how fast it reved when I stepped on the clutch, but I expected
there would have been a new crater in the road if I hadn't turned off
the ignition. The throttle mechanically had bound up passing a truck,
but I was able to pop it free and drive home.
As far as I know the Miata (MX-5) always had a standard reciprocating
engine. My wife had a 1990 when I met her, and it had a little 4 banger
developing maybe 90HP. It was "quick" if you knew how to "drive" a
stick. My first car was a 67 Ford (English) Cortina GT (not really
fast) with a stick so I was used to it.
I felt like, while it was definitely not faster, the old 90HP Miata
handled better than the RX7. I only got to drive an RX7 a couple times
so take that with a grain of salt. I do have one anecdote to share on
it however. Driving the back road into Julian I was dogging an RX7 in
all the turn's driving Patti's Miata. He would pull out on the straight
a bit, but into the next declining radius turn and I'd be on him. After
a couple of those he eased over and waived me by.
Totally fun, another time running up Yarnell hill headed for Prescott I
was driving the Miata loaded down pretty heavy with a trunk bag strapped
on the back full of camping gear. Yarnel hill has killed a few bikers
and even a few cagers, but I've been going up that hill my whole life.
My future wife's room mate was riding on the back of a ZX11 with her
boyfriend. He said, "I hope you can keep up."
I never drove it back when it was just a two lane, but I remember it.
Its a "little" safer today.
I replied, "Yeah we'll wait for you at the first gas station in town."
I didn't know if he could really ride that machine, if he would push a
road he didn't know that well in the dark, or if the first time he laid
into it in a turn she would beat the crap out of him to slow down. I
didn't really even consider it could have been deadly for both of them
if he really tried to push it going up that mountain. In any case I
figured if he could ride half smart he would take it easy in the turns
and blast out in the straights. I expect for certain he'd pass me
halfway up the first long straight section.
I don't recall why exactly, but I wound up a few minutes ahead of them
going up the hill. Maybe they gave me a head start. I forget. I hit
that first hard turn, braked in, and pushed out hard, and he still
hadn't caught me. There was a little sand on the road near the hill and
I felt the car slide just a little and thought to myself, "Okay, that's
the limit," If we hadn't been loaded down in back I might have slid out
and hit the mountain. I don't think so, but it sounds more exciting if
I tell it that way. I kept in it all the way to the top of the hill,
and oddly I was more nervous about the faster weaving turns in the trees
up top than I was about the hard turns coming up the hill.
All the way through the woods and I never saw anybody behind me. We
finally saw a place near Prescott where I stopped. I parked close to
the rode where he could see the car, and it was maybe 15-20 minutes
before he rolled in behind me. He just said, "I want to do that again
without a passenger." I didn't ask if he had sore ribs.
I figure a heavy battery in the back of a Miata in place of the gas
tank, and a decent high voltage multi phase electric up front and it
could be a micro beast, or a it could be an economy e-car basically at
the flip of a switch.
--
Bob La Londe
CNC Molds N Stuff
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My wife and I had an RX2 2 rotor when we first got together. I got it from my old man when his wife wouldn't drive it anymore after he was mildly rear-ended at a light. We used to cruise that thing back and forth from Phoenix to Beaumont, Ca everyother weekend to see her kids.
Here's a page with links to a bunch of Mazda EV conversions.
http://www.evalbum.com/type/MAZD
Me, if I still had a place to do it, I'd be considering something like this:
https://www.autoblog.com/2022/11/24/electric-chevy-3100-pickup-kindred-motorworks/
But then I've always been an "old truck" guy...just ask Snag.
Ah, good so you likely at least know about the road into Juian (Ca), and climbing Yarnell Hill out of Congress, Az. Never heard of any RX2, but that's doesn't mean much. Lots of things I never heard of.
Hey, any little car like that that would chirp the tires in 2nd gear
with an automatic trans was fun back then.
Here's a page with links to a bunch of Mazda EV conversions.
Light weight small cars with decent suspension are always a surprising amount of fun. Another I enjoyed besides the Cortina GT was a Celica ST.
I like old trucks myself. My personal oldest was a 65 F250 with the 352 industrial and the cast iron (steel?) transmission all the racers were trying to talk me out of. I learned to drive in a 57 Dodge step side
split hood. By the time I was driving it the shift pattern was the size
of a small city, but it still dropped into gear okay if I wasn't to far
out on RPM. I'm not much on working on trucks, not that I haven't done
it. I just don't if I don't have to. That being said my old truck now
is a 2007 Silverado turbo diesel. I hope it doesn't get wrecked because
my plan is to keep it until I can't buy diesel anymore. My dad's
favorite old truck was his '90 Dodge Cummins until somebody who didn't
have permission to borrow their daddy's car blew a red light.
But then I've always been an "old truck" guy...just ask Snag.I've got a 3000 foot workshop, but if I had to work on a truck TODAY I'd have to do it outside.
On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 9:55:39 AM UTC-7, Bob La Londe wrote:either side of a tour in Thailand. when I was in the AF. After I got out I hung around Phoenix for 5 or 6 years. Then, later on, I spent a couple of years in Flagstaff. Now I usually spend November and part of December in Quartzsite before I go back
Ah, good so you likely at least know about the road into Juian (Ca), and
climbing Yarnell Hill out of Congress, Az. Never heard of any RX2, but
that's doesn't mean much. Lots of things I never heard of.
I know Julian. In fact, I spent the winter of ''21-'22 managing the campground at Mt Laguna. Had a shop in Julian do some work on my Jeep. Also, in several past lives I've spent time in AZ. I was stationed at both Williams AFB and Luke AFB on
Hey, any little car like that that would chirp the tires in 2nd gear
with an automatic trans was fun back then.
Here's a page with links to a bunch of Mazda EV conversions.Light weight small cars with decent suspension are always a surprising
amount of fun. Another I enjoyed besides the Cortina GT was a Celica ST.
The RX 2 (it was a '72 I think) was a little 4 door shitbox sort of like the early Coronas or Datsun B210's. Just right for blasting across the desert at night.
of the '54 panel and one of the '61 F-100s were before I owned the hot rod and restoration shop.I like old trucks myself. My personal oldest was a 65 F250 with the 352
industrial and the cast iron (steel?) transmission all the racers were
trying to talk me out of. I learned to drive in a 57 Dodge step side
split hood. By the time I was driving it the shift pattern was the size
of a small city, but it still dropped into gear okay if I wasn't to far
out on RPM. I'm not much on working on trucks, not that I haven't done
it. I just don't if I don't have to. That being said my old truck now
is a 2007 Silverado turbo diesel. I hope it doesn't get wrecked because
my plan is to keep it until I can't buy diesel anymore. My dad's
favorite old truck was his '90 Dodge Cummins until somebody who didn't
have permission to borrow their daddy's car blew a red light.
Let me see. I've had 3 '54 Chevys (A 3 window, a 5 window and a panel). 2 '61 F-100s (both 302 swapped), a '61 Suburban with a Ford 390 swap, a couple of International Travelalls, and an International 4x4 pickup...and most of these (with the exception
Actually learned to drive in a Beetle, when I was about 11.
CB750 Ltd on an 18' car hauler. I spend the summers in the eastern Sierra's near Bishop, CA and the winters near my other kid's houses in Arkansas. All my work is outside anymore, and I'm starting to feel like I'm getting too old for this shit.I've got a 3000 foot workshop, but if I had to work on a truck TODAY I'd
But then I've always been an "old truck" guy...just ask Snag.
have to do it outside.
My home shop was not quite 1000 square feet, but when I closed the business and moved my tools home I barely had room for my wife's Superglide and the 2 Tourglides we owned at the time. Now I live in a 37' motor home and tow my Jeep and a '79 Honda
On 7/18/2023 4:20 AM, Old_Crow wrote:
On Monday, July 17, 2023 at 9:55:39 AM UTC-7, Bob La Londe wrote:
Ah, good so you likely at least know about the road into Juian (Ca), and >>> climbing Yarnell Hill out of Congress, Az. Never heard of any RX2, but
that's doesn't mean much. Lots of things I never heard of.
I know Julian. In fact, I spent the winter of ''21-'22 managing the
campground at Mt Laguna. Had a shop in Julian do some work on my
Jeep. Also, in several past lives I've spent time in AZ. I was
stationed at both Williams AFB and Luke AFB on either side of a tour
in Thailand. when I was in the AF. After I got out I hung around
Phoenix for 5 or 6 years. Then, later on, I spent a couple of years
in Flagstaff. Now I usually spend November and part of December in
Quartzsite before I go back to Arkansas for the winter.
Hey, any little car like that that would chirp the tires in 2nd gear
with an automatic trans was fun back then.
Here's a page with links to a bunch of Mazda EV conversions.Light weight small cars with decent suspension are always a surprising
amount of fun. Another I enjoyed besides the Cortina GT was a Celica ST.
The RX 2 (it was a '72 I think) was a little 4 door shitbox sort of
like the early Coronas or Datsun B210's. Just right for blasting
across the desert at night.
My favorite... maybe... little 4 door shit box was a 71 Dodge Dart. Had
the slant six 225, but I was given a 71 Plymouth swinger (basically the
same car) that had previously had a 318. I was going to use the
hardware out of the Swinger to swap in a 318 out of a 76 Volare station wagon, but about the time I got the engine out of wagon somebody came
along and offered me real money for it. I sold the Dart to a fried who
sold it again and I saw it around for many more years. That old 225 was bullet proof. The Swinger and Volare bodies went to the junk man after
I sold off a few more parts. I would have liked to see the Dart with
the 318 in it, but I also liked the small stack of greenbacks.
Its funny. I NEVER thought of the Dart as anything special, but now I
am told lots of folks thought they were something. I paid $150 for it
with a slipping transmission which was fixed with a filter/fluid change,
and sold it for $250 after I picked up A 76 F150 with the 360, because I
had quit driving the Dart.
I like old trucks myself. My personal oldest was a 65 F250 with the 352
industrial and the cast iron (steel?) transmission all the racers were
trying to talk me out of. I learned to drive in a 57 Dodge step side
split hood. By the time I was driving it the shift pattern was the size
of a small city, but it still dropped into gear okay if I wasn't to far
out on RPM. I'm not much on working on trucks, not that I haven't done
it. I just don't if I don't have to. That being said my old truck now
is a 2007 Silverado turbo diesel. I hope it doesn't get wrecked because
my plan is to keep it until I can't buy diesel anymore. My dad's
favorite old truck was his '90 Dodge Cummins until somebody who didn't
have permission to borrow their daddy's car blew a red light.
Let me see. I've had 3 '54 Chevys (A 3 window, a 5 window and a
panel). 2 '61 F-100s (both 302 swapped), a '61 Suburban with a Ford
390 swap, a couple of International Travelalls, and an International
4x4 pickup...and most of these (with the exception of the '54 panel
and one of the '61 F-100s were before I owned the hot rod and
restoration shop.
Actually learned to drive in a Beetle, when I was about 11.
I started driving with a pop crate behind my back at about that age or
maybe a little younger.
I've got a 3000 foot workshop, but if I had to work on a truck TODAY I'd >>> have to do it outside.
But then I've always been an "old truck" guy...just ask Snag.
My home shop was not quite 1000 square feet, but when I closed the
business and moved my tools home I barely had room for my wife's
Superglide and the 2 Tourglides we owned at the time. Now I live in a
37' motor home and tow my Jeep and a '79 Honda CB750 Ltd on an 18' car
hauler. I spend the summers in the eastern Sierra's near Bishop, CA
and the winters near my other kid's houses in Arkansas. All my work is
outside anymore, and I'm starting to feel like I'm getting too old for
this shit.
79 CB750. Is that new enough to be a DOHC? That particular bike always kind of scared me. A guy who worked for my dad showed up with one. A
76 SOHC I think. Being only 125 lbs soaking wet probably it turned out
to be a mistake that he always kicked it over. I don't even know if the electric start worked. One day it kicked him back and threw him over
the handlebars messing up his ankle pretty bad. I couldn't find a wheel chair handy so I just carried him into the ER. You should have seen the staff jump and run. I asked about it and they said usually when they
see somebody carried in like that its bad.
To be fair, I used to use the kicker on my 1976 GL1000, but it never
kicked me back. I found myself using it whenever I had a choice between
gas money or battery money.
I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of an older
Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their blow clunker is a
secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because I
like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard
top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard anybody
in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
On 7/16/23 11:05 AM, Bob La Londe wrote:
I've played with the "idea" of doing an electric conversion of an
older Miata for years. Find something with a blown motor and go from
there. I shoulda bought a couple of them back when I first started
thinking about it. You could buy worn out old Miatas with pretty
straight body/frame cheap. Now-a-days everybody seems to think their
blow clunker is a secret basket find old original Indian.
P.S. I would prefer to do it with the older flip light Miata because
I like the bug eye conversion look on them much better than the sleek
flush lights on the new ones. Also, while its probably not available
new anymore there was a pretty neat looking fast back aftermarket hard
top for those old ones.
Yes, snag. This might have fit better in RCM, but I never heard
anybody in RCM say, "You shoulda bought a Miata."
For anybody who isn't already outside taking turns pissing in my
helmet... this rounds on me.
Miata's have developed a cult following like a beetle or a Jeep.
True though, if you are looking for a Rollerskate and don't want to
re-invent the wheel, a Miata is the "answer".
For an EV you want the lightest vehicle possible.
Just sitting here scratching myself, a FWD shit box with the batteries
behind the driver and as low possible to balance weight.
Other candidates - Starlet, Vega, Chevette, Fiesta, Yugo, Rabbit, B210, Triumph, MG, Lotus, Small Fiats, Trabant, Hillman, Anglia, early Volvo.
For an EV you want the lightest vehicle possible.
Just sitting here scratching myself, a FWD shit box with the
batteries behind the driver and as low possible to balance weight.
Other candidates - Starlet, Vega, Chevette, Fiesta, Yugo, Rabbit,
B210, Triumph, MG, Lotus, Small Fiats, Trabant, Hillman, Anglia,
early Volvo.
A Yugo? I only ever knew one person who admitted to having owned
one. I think I only ever recall having seen one on the road either.
On 7/19/23 1:41 PM, Bob La Londe wrote:
A Yugo? I only ever knew one person who admitted to having owned
one. I think I only ever recall having seen one on the road either.
Back on LI, a buddy of mine's GF had one. They had to put cardboard or a
thin sheet of plywood in front of the radiator during the winter. On particularly cold winter days, the "heater" never really put warm air in
the cabin.
My favorite... maybe... little 4 door shit box was a 71 Dodge Dart. Had
the slant six 225, but I was given a 71 Plymouth swinger (basically the
same car) that had previously had a 318. I was going to use the
hardware out of the Swinger to swap in a 318 out of a 76 Volare station wagon, but about the time I got the engine out of wagon somebody came
along and offered me real money for it. I sold the Dart to a fried who
sold it again and I saw it around for many more years. That old 225 was bullet proof. The Swinger and Volare bodies went to the junk man after
I sold off a few more parts. I would have liked to see the Dart with
the 318 in it, but I also liked the small stack of greenbacks.
Its funny. I NEVER thought of the Dart as anything special, but now I
am told lots of folks thought they were something. I paid $150 for it
with a slipping transmission which was fixed with a filter/fluid change,
and sold it for $250 after I picked up A 76 F150 with the 360, because I
had quit driving the Dart.
I like old trucks myself. My personal oldest was a 65 F250 with the 352 >> industrial and the cast iron (steel?) transmission all the racers were
trying to talk me out of. I learned to drive in a 57 Dodge step side
split hood. By the time I was driving it the shift pattern was the size >> of a small city, but it still dropped into gear okay if I wasn't to far >> out on RPM. I'm not much on working on trucks, not that I haven't done
it. I just don't if I don't have to. That being said my old truck now
is a 2007 Silverado turbo diesel. I hope it doesn't get wrecked because >> my plan is to keep it until I can't buy diesel anymore. My dad's
favorite old truck was his '90 Dodge Cummins until somebody who didn't
have permission to borrow their daddy's car blew a red light.
79 CB750. Is that new enough to be a DOHC? That particular bike always
kind of scared me. A guy who worked for my dad showed up with one. A
76 SOHC I think. Being only 125 lbs soaking wet probably it turned out
to be a mistake that he always kicked it over. I don't even know if the electric start worked. One day it kicked him back and threw him over
the handlebars messing up his ankle pretty bad. I couldn't find a wheel chair handy so I just carried him into the ER. You should have seen the staff jump and run. I asked about it and they said usually when they
see somebody carried in like that its bad.
To be fair, I used to use the kicker on my 1976 GL1000, but it never
kicked me back. I found myself using it whenever I had a choice between
gas money or battery money.
--
Bob La Londe
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A Yugo? I only ever knew one person who admitted to having owned
one. I think I only ever recall having seen one on the road either.
Back on LI, a buddy of mine's GF had one. They had to put cardboard or a
thin sheet of plywood in front of the radiator during the winter. On particularly cold winter days, the "heater" never really put warm air in
the cabin.
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