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    From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 18:38:51 2024
    There's a new release on Bis from the Gringolts Quartet with Lilli
    Maijala. I listened once on streaming, with a positive impression,
    so intend to spend some more time with it at some point.... I enjoy
    e.g. the "orchestral" feel they get from Op.88.

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 1 19:59:45 2024
    I listened to the first movement of the G major Quintet. Sounds great.

    BTW Lilli Maijala, the extra violist, is part of the Finnish artists'
    community in Amsterdam - mostly a bunch of great musicians and
    dancers.

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Herman on Mon Jul 1 20:02:04 2024
    In article <331211c82d469f27f9440a43f0d6565e@www.novabbs.com>,
    Herman <herst@online.nl> wrote:
    I listened to the first movement of the G major Quintet.

    One of my favorite "canon" pieces....

    BTW Lilli Maijala, the extra violist, is part of the Finnish artists' >community in Amsterdam - mostly a bunch of great musicians and
    dancers.

    I wasn't familiar with any of these performers, I don't believe,
    but I'll probably listen to a few related recordings while I consider
    these in more detail....

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 5 07:50:21 2024
    Todd:
    "There's a new release on Bis from the Gringolts Quartet with Lilli
    Maijala. I listened once on streaming, with a positive impression,
    so intend to spend some more time with it at some point.... I enjoy
    e.g. the "orchestral" feel they get from Op.88."

    What I don't understand is labels are still doing these museum-like
    recordings. All of Brahms's string quintets. Admittedly, it's only two
    pieces, but it's not like anyone isn't fully and duplicatedly aware
    Brahms wrote these two pieces.

    It would have been more fun and interesting if the Gringolts had done
    one of the Brahms works (pref the F major) and recorded one or two more
    works demonstrating that great chamber music was really getting composed
    AFTER the year 1900, or even much later. A Reger work, a Hindemith piece
    or even Kurtag or Ligeti, just to combat the ever shrinking repertoire.

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 5 08:48:27 2024
    So, here is a live performance of Kurtag's Moments Musicaux op 44, a
    piece which would have fitted very well after the Brahms:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRz4WyCyryA

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 5 08:45:09 2024
    So here is a live performance of Kurtag's Moments Musicaux op 44, which
    would have fitted very well after the Brahms:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRz4WyCyryA

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Herman on Fri Jul 5 16:34:31 2024
    In article <d4eee5171597cc0729d7fc9dea00922c@www.novabbs.com>,
    Herman <herst@online.nl> wrote:
    What I don't understand is labels are still doing these museum-like >recordings. All of Brahms's string quintets. Admittedly, it's only
    two pieces, but it's not like anyone isn't fully and duplicatedly
    aware Brahms wrote these two pieces.

    You make a good point about expanding horizons, but on the practical
    level, I might not have noticed the recording if it had been a
    broader program....

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Fri Jul 5 16:49:25 2024
    In article <v697an$poa$1@hope.eyrie.org>,
    Todd M. McComb <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote:
    You make a good point about expanding horizons, but on the practical
    level, I might not have noticed the recording if it had been a
    broader program....

    Actually, I wonder about the convention of releasing two such works
    on one album, rather than only one! In the days of streaming/download,
    there's not really a "value" equation around a CD-length program. So
    the convention of hour-long programs may have no real meaning. Why
    not put out e.g. Brahms Quintets one at a time?

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Sun Jul 7 17:08:49 2024
    In article <v6986l$r8i$1@hope.eyrie.org>,
    Todd M. McComb <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote:
    I wonder about the convention of releasing two such works on one
    album, ....

    In the first post I think I also mentioned this was on Bis, purchased
    by Apple. Or at least I assume the purchase actually happened, so
    presumably this is a release by Apple -- and in this specific
    (typical) format. These sorts of "recording business" topics were
    a part of the (not so) old RMCR....

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Todd M. McComb on Sat Jul 13 02:40:48 2024
    In article <v5v1vs$vvm$1@hope.eyrie.org>,
    Todd M. McComb <mccomb@medieval.org> wrote:
    I wasn't familiar with any of these performers, I don't believe,
    but I'll probably listen to a few related recordings while I
    consider these in more detail....

    I finally got around to listening to more from the Gringolts Quartet
    today, their Schoenberg & Schumann albums. Theirs is a generally
    articulate sound that I enjoy. Everything seems present & clear &
    available to the ear, so to speak.

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 13 07:19:15 2024
    Some of the Schoenberg quartets are on youtube, too, in live
    performances from 2021.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-4uJIHKYPc&t=315s

    I couldn't help but notice this is one of those quartets that play one
    very very historical instruments. Simionescu's alto (she's second from
    left in this video) even predates Stradivari. Of course instruments this
    old have been restored many times.

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  • From Todd M. McComb@21:1/5 to Herman on Sat Jul 13 09:15:06 2024
    In article <16ecae702738cbbf220f327c2af91ef3@www.novabbs.com>,
    Herman <herst@online.nl> wrote:
    I couldn't help but notice this is one of those quartets that play
    on very very historical instruments.

    I suppose that's a factor in my enjoyment of their sound? It's
    kind of hard to say, in any really linear sense, since as you say,
    the instruments have generally been modified....

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  • From Herman@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 13 12:07:22 2024
    Todd: "I suppose that's a factor in my enjoyment of their sound? It's
    kind of hard to say, in any really linear sense, since as you say,
    the instruments have generally been modified...."

    I have no doubt you can hear the particularities of these long-lived instruments in a live performance, and perhaps on a very good sound
    system. Otherwise all I can say is you will hear that these four guys
    are very happy with the instruments they lucked into.

    As I suggested, a pre-1700 fiddle has eperienced so many modifications
    and repairs I would be bet fifty percent of the hardware is modern.
    Also, there are very good instruments being made both in Europe and the
    USA and other places today. In a blind test today's best instruments
    often win over Strads and the like... One of the best contemporary viola luthiers lives in Sao Paolo, Brazil. Ann Arbor, Michigan used to be a
    veritable violin makers hub.

    Don't get me started...

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