There’s, lately, been a lot of research reassessing the achievements of Mozart and Haydn, finding a lot of solid evidence that both of these historical figures are brands built on fraud, theft, and dishonest
marketing.
Here’s an interview of the researchers, and authors of the book, “Mozart. The Fall of the Gods.” https://www.mozartthefallofthegods.com/
The researcher who piqued their interest is Giorgio Taboga. So, it’s worth looking for his writings, too.
Here are some excerpts from the interview.
“Mozart was not a genius even as a teenager. In Bologna he risked not passing the exam to become a Philharmonic Academician. If he had delivered the exam assignment as he composed it, they would have rejected it. Father Martini intervened and helped him by passing him the right solution. When
the examination board voted on his admission, not all votes were in favour, as Leopold claimed. His exam paper was judged only sufficient due to the circumstances.”
“As a child, Mozart suffered from the delusions of a cheating father, who stole his childhood by denying him adequate education. As a young man, the archbishop preferred other composers over him, and the courts held him in
low esteem, relegating him to a marginal position even in Vienna. In death, his greedy wife forged the manuscripts to make the most of them. Miserably compensated when he was alive, and forgotten at the time of his death, he
was transformed by businessmen into a brand.”
“According to our findings, we think Mozart wrote about 10% of what is attributed to him.”
“HG: What composers are the ones the Mozarts used the most to present as music by ‘by WA Mozart’?
“LB&AT: Many: Gasparini, Jommelli, Traetta, Paisiello, Myslivecek etc.”
“Mozart is big business. Proving with primary sources, as we do, that Mozart is not a genius but a normal man, and a composer that was not even especially gifted, certainly annoys many people.”
Matt Faunce <mattfaunce@gmail.com> wrote:
There’s, lately, been a lot of research reassessing the achievements of
Mozart and Haydn, finding a lot of solid evidence that both of these
historical figures are brands built on fraud, theft, and dishonest
marketing.
Here’s an interview of the researchers, and authors of the book, “Mozart.
The Fall of the Gods.” https://www.mozartthefallofthegods.com/
The researcher who piqued their interest is Giorgio Taboga. So, it’s worth >> looking for his writings, too.
Here are some excerpts from the interview.
“Mozart was not a genius even as a teenager. In Bologna he risked not
passing the exam to become a Philharmonic Academician. If he had delivered >> the exam assignment as he composed it, they would have rejected it. Father >> Martini intervened and helped him by passing him the right solution. When
the examination board voted on his admission, not all votes were in favour, >> as Leopold claimed. His exam paper was judged only sufficient due to the
circumstances.”
“As a child, Mozart suffered from the delusions of a cheating father, who >> stole his childhood by denying him adequate education. As a young man, the >> archbishop preferred other composers over him, and the courts held him in
low esteem, relegating him to a marginal position even in Vienna. In death, >> his greedy wife forged the manuscripts to make the most of them. Miserably >> compensated when he was alive, and forgotten at the time of his death, he
was transformed by businessmen into a brand.”
“According to our findings, we think Mozart wrote about 10% of what is
attributed to him.”
“HG: What composers are the ones the Mozarts used the most to present as >> music by ‘by WA Mozart’?
“LB&AT: Many: Gasparini, Jommelli, Traetta, Paisiello, Myslivecek etc.” >>
“Mozart is big business. Proving with primary sources, as we do, that
Mozart is not a genius but a normal man, and a composer that was not even
especially gifted, certainly annoys many people.”
Here’s more info, by another early researcher, Robert Newman. https://www.talkclassical.com/865-controversy-over-true-musical.html
Matt Faunce <mattf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Matt Faunce <mattf...@gmail.com> wrote:
There’s, lately, been a lot of research reassessing the achievements of >> Mozart and Haydn, finding a lot of solid evidence that both of these
historical figures are brands built on fraud, theft, and dishonest
marketing.
Here’s an interview of the researchers, and authors of the book, “Mozart.
The Fall of the Gods.” https://www.mozartthefallofthegods.com/
The researcher who piqued their interest is Giorgio Taboga. So, it’s worth
looking for his writings, too.
Here are some excerpts from the interview.
“Mozart was not a genius even as a teenager. In Bologna he risked not >> passing the exam to become a Philharmonic Academician. If he had delivered
the exam assignment as he composed it, they would have rejected it. Father
Martini intervened and helped him by passing him the right solution. When >> the examination board voted on his admission, not all votes were in favour,
as Leopold claimed. His exam paper was judged only sufficient due to the >> circumstances.”
“As a child, Mozart suffered from the delusions of a cheating father, who
stole his childhood by denying him adequate education. As a young man, the
archbishop preferred other composers over him, and the courts held him in >> low esteem, relegating him to a marginal position even in Vienna. In death,
his greedy wife forged the manuscripts to make the most of them. Miserably
compensated when he was alive, and forgotten at the time of his death, he >> was transformed by businessmen into a brand.”
“According to our findings, we think Mozart wrote about 10% of what is >> attributed to him.”
“HG: What composers are the ones the Mozarts used the most to present as
music by ‘by WA Mozart’?
“LB&AT: Many: Gasparini, Jommelli, Traetta, Paisiello, Myslivecek etc.”
“Mozart is big business. Proving with primary sources, as we do, that >> Mozart is not a genius but a normal man, and a composer that was not even >> especially gifted, certainly annoys many people.”
Here’s more info, by another early researcher, Robert Newman. https://www.talkclassical.com/865-controversy-over-true-musical.html
A case of damnatio personae. Andrea Luchesi, and his role in the birth of Haydn, Mozart and Beethoven myths, by Giorgio Taboga. http://www.cartesio-episteme.net/episteme/epi4/ep4tabog.htm
Here’s a sign — a picture of Haydn with one eye shut — from a box-set recording of “Haydn” symphonies. https://www.allmusic.com/album/release/haydn-complete-name-symphonies-mr0002676415
--WOW!! I have to read this book!
Matt
On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 6:16:03 PM UTC-4, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:...
Matt Faunce <mattf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here’s a sign — a picture of Haydn with one eye shut — from a box-set >> recording of “Haydn” symphonies.WOW!! I have to read this book!
https://www.allmusic.com/album/release/haydn-complete-name-symphonies-mr0002676415
--
Matt
On 3/26/2022 5:55 AM, John Nguyen wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 6:16:03 PM UTC-4, mattf...@gmail.com wrote:...
Matt Faunce <mattf...@gmail.com> wrote:
Here’s a sign — a picture of Haydn with one eye shut — from a box-set >>> recording of “Haydn” symphonies.WOW!! I have to read this book!
https://www.allmusic.com/album/release/haydn-complete-name-symphonies-mr0002676415
--
Matt
Very interesting, but it's only fair to note that it isn't without controversy. Here's an article:
https://www.glistatigenerali.com/musica-classica_storia-cultura/tutta-la-vera-storia-delle-strampalate-fake-news-contro-w-a-mozart/
... in which a concluding paragraph reads:
"In conclusion, it has been shown on the whole from several positions
that an editorial production aimed at the “demolition” of the so-called Mozartian “myth” as in the two volumes entitled “Mozart. The fall of the
gods "is devoid of any scientific foundation, revealing frightening gaps
in numerous fields of knowledge and an expression of a sterile"
revisionism "that relies on the ingenuity of the general public, to
which is added even the obstinacy with which they are identified fans of Mozart's music and in general of the great German musical tradition with Nazism. As stated by prof. Tedeschi Turco on the blog of the Turin Conservatory "the bizarre theses of Taboga and the two authors of
"Mozart The Fall of the Gods "have been screened and demolished every
time they have appeared in print or on the web: they are empty nonsense."
So not everybody agrees with their thesis.
JMF <favaro.john@tiscali.it> wrote:...
So not everybody agrees with their thesis.
Of course, the response in the link was expected.
I might have to dig deeper into this issue.
There’s, lately, been a lot of research reassessing the achievements of Mozart and Haydn, finding a lot of solid evidence that both of these historical figures are brands built on fraud, theft, and dishonest marketing.
Here’s an interview of the researchers, and authors of the book, “Mozart.
The Fall of the Gods.” https://www.mozartthefallofthegods.com/
The researcher who piqued their interest is Giorgio Taboga. So, it’s worth looking for his writings, too.
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