On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 12:54:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ketan wrote:
In article <1190297256.0...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, UVR says...
If the treatment a father would mete out to his son is no better than >that the treatment he would mete out to his professional colleagues, >there is something really sorry in the state of affairs. Or vice
versa.
E.g., a 'prince' who overthrows his own father to occupy the throne
by force is universally viewed in a much more damning light than
one who mounts an attack on another king sans casus belli.
So you are comparing Aurangzeb to Dubya? I can just hear Aurangzeb saying "I am
a bigger posterior orifice than you are" and Dubya saying "Bring it on".
Stealing may be the norm in the industry, but stealing (if indeed
that was done) from one's own son is still something hard to
digest.
I repeat---we have no idea what RD had composed and hence we have no idea what
SDB "stole".
I don't even think the word "stealing" is appropriate here. Various articles
have written that SDB heard RDB humming/whistling a tune and RD was surprised to
see it as a song in Funtoosh. I would be hard pressed to believe RD was humming/whistling the prelude-mukhdaa-interlude(s)-antara-coda of "Ai meri topi
palat ke aa".
As for the treatement meted out by a parent to their child, Majrooh has himself
said, when RD was the assistant, SD was tougher on him than he was on Jaidev.
SDB didn't want to show any leniency to RD on account of his being the son. He
is not the first person to do that nor will he be the last. This is a universal
thing and something that has been featured even in Archie comics--Chuck and
Coach Clayton.
As regards my quiz:
I had in mind Roshan taking permission from SDB for "Rahen na rahen hum" and
S-E-L taking permission for Pretty Woman. Why Roshan had to take permission for
the Mamta song and not the Chandni Chowk song is something that perplexes me. I
had no idea SDB had taken permission for the Buzdil song and had forgotten that
Roshan took permission for the Barsaat ki Raat qawalli.
As for acknowledgements--my question was misworded. I had the MM-Sajjad episode
in mind but MM did not acknowledge it till he was confronted. The only other
instance I can think of is RD saying in an interview that he had based "Saagar
Kinare" on "Thandi Hawayen" and "Rahen na rahen hum". Why he didn't acknowledge
this for the Naram Garam song which was composed before Saagar is another thing
that perplexes me.
AKHTAR ALI .KetanDear Ketan - the song 'saagar kinaare .....' from 'saagar' is a ditto copy of madan mohan's song ' yehi hai tamanna , tere ghar ke saamne , meri jaan jaaye' ... sung by Rafi . listen to both songs and you'll at once believe this . ..... WELL WISHER
On Wednesday, January 27, 2016 at 8:28:48 AM UTC-6, a111...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Friday, September 21, 2007 at 12:54:54 AM UTC+5:30, Ketan wrote:
In article <1190297256.0...@t8g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, UVR says...
If the treatment a father would mete out to his son is no better than >that the treatment he would mete out to his professional colleagues, >there is something really sorry in the state of affairs. Or vice >versa.
E.g., a 'prince' who overthrows his own father to occupy the throne
by force is universally viewed in a much more damning light than
one who mounts an attack on another king sans casus belli.
So you are comparing Aurangzeb to Dubya? I can just hear Aurangzeb saying "I am
a bigger posterior orifice than you are" and Dubya saying "Bring it on".
Stealing may be the norm in the industry, but stealing (if indeed
that was done) from one's own son is still something hard to
digest.
I repeat---we have no idea what RD had composed and hence we have no idea what
SDB "stole".
I don't even think the word "stealing" is appropriate here. Various articles
have written that SDB heard RDB humming/whistling a tune and RD was surprised to
see it as a song in Funtoosh. I would be hard pressed to believe RD was humming/whistling the prelude-mukhdaa-interlude(s)-antara-coda of "Ai meri topi
palat ke aa".
As for the treatement meted out by a parent to their child, Majrooh has himself
said, when RD was the assistant, SD was tougher on him than he was on Jaidev.
SDB didn't want to show any leniency to RD on account of his being the son. He
is not the first person to do that nor will he be the last. This is a universal
thing and something that has been featured even in Archie comics--Chuck and
Coach Clayton.
As regards my quiz:
I had in mind Roshan taking permission from SDB for "Rahen na rahen hum" and
S-E-L taking permission for Pretty Woman. Why Roshan had to take permission for
the Mamta song and not the Chandni Chowk song is something that perplexes me. I
had no idea SDB had taken permission for the Buzdil song and had forgotten that
Roshan took permission for the Barsaat ki Raat qawalli.
As for acknowledgements--my question was misworded. I had the MM-Sajjad episode
in mind but MM did not acknowledge it till he was confronted. The only other
instance I can think of is RD saying in an interview that he had based "Saagar
Kinare" on "Thandi Hawayen" and "Rahen na rahen hum". Why he didn't acknowledge
this for the Naram Garam song which was composed before Saagar is another thing
that perplexes me.
AKHTAR ALI .KetanDear Ketan - the song 'saagar kinaare .....' from 'saagar' is a ditto copy of madan mohan's song ' yehi hai tamanna , tere ghar ke saamne , meri jaan jaaye' ... sung by Rafi . listen to both songs and you'll at once believe this . ..... WELL WISHER
And yehi hai tamanna is a dito copy of s d burman's thandi hawayein
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