Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 10:34:12 AM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 6:09:50 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me.
"Great Western" is an oxymoron.
See if watching it changes your mind.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 6:09:50 AM UTC-4, Bill B wrote:
Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me."Great Western" is an oxymoron.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."Sounds like a phobia to me. Did you fall off a pony at your grandfather's stable?
Don't you watch the rebirth of the original Law & Order? Sam Waterston is now the District Attorney after many years as the Chief Prosecutor.
I hope someone here is more open minded than you and gives it a fair chance.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Have you watched Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul?
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 3:11:36 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Have you watched Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul?
Every episode of both. I'd rate both highly, but not on a par with Godless.
Why did you get involved in this thread anyway? It was specifically targeted for those who enjoyed Westerns.
Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me.----------
Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me.
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
2 - The Sopranos
5 - Sgt. Bilko
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
13 - All In The Family
22 - I Love Lucy
25 - Boardwalk Empire
28 - Columbo
34 - Amos And Andy
59 - The Twilight Zone
60 - Star Trek
76 - The Avengers
87 - Top Cat
92 - Adventures of Superman
On 10/20/2023 6:09 AM, Bill B wrote:
Godless on Netflix. A seven episode miniseries. On the rating scale used here, it's a high ten! I watched it twice and that is exceedingly rare for me.----------
This show is from 2017. I've never heard or read any mention of it
before. How did you find out about it?
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
34 - Amos And AndyOne of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:45:47 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
The episodes are on Youtube.34 - Amos And AndyOne of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFiKcBdCx8&list=PL-IGtTLDrUKRlI3T_TjA3EMXLeMyW4Iwm
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie." >> Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audience
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like. >>
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie." >> Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
list would carry a lot more home grown hits like "Monty Python",""Fawlty Towers".the three excellent BBC Quatermass serials,"The Sweeney" etc------------76 - The Avengers
Wow! A rare UK made TV show (and sadly one I never warmed to)---my
of a brand of best selling tinned cat food87 - Top Cat
This had to be retitled "Boss Cat" over here as Top Cat was the name
Supie. Better in my book as Kirk Alyn in the two old Columbia Superman92 - Adventures of Superman
Sorry but even as a kid I found it hard to accept George Reeves as
------------Phyllis Coates, who played Lois in the first season of the TV
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:28:01 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:put it on over there and "woke" people stopped it.
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> >Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)I don't think it has anything to do with woke, which is mainly about white liberals. I think that black folks are the ones who didn't want it on even when it was current, and it's just stayed that way. Unless you can show that some network wanted to
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 20:48:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:put it on over there and "woke" people stopped it.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:28:01 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> >
Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)I don't think it has anything to do with woke, which is mainly about white liberals. I think that black folks are the ones who didn't want it on even when it was current, and it's just stayed that way. Unless you can show that some network wanted to
When "Amos And Andy" first showed here it was on the BBC circa 1955 or so. As I recall it was popular and ran for a couple of years without any fuss or fanfare or adverse comment. .I've never heard of it causing any friction with the UK black audience.strongly when I am over here as part of the current UK TV audience (already living with the banning of the 70's comedy sitcom "Love Thy Neighbour" featuring a black family)---and you are not
But the TV climate in the UK today is very different and being familiar with it led me to make the "likely never to be seen again ever thanks to today's "woke" climate" comment which is my firm opinion and which I don't quite see how you can refute so
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 4:37:31 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:to put it on over there and "woke" people stopped it.
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 20:48:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:28:01 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote: >> > On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)I don't think it has anything to do with woke, which is mainly about white liberals. I think that black folks are the ones who didn't want it on even when it was current, and it's just stayed that way. Unless you can show that some network wanted
audience.When "Amos And Andy" first showed here it was on the BBC circa 1955 or so. As I recall it was popular and ran for a couple of years without any fuss or fanfare or adverse comment. .I've never heard of it causing any friction with the UK black
so strongly when I am over here as part of the current UK TV audience (already living with the banning of the 70's comedy sitcom "Love Thy Neighbour" featuring a black family)---and you are notBut the TV climate in the UK today is very different and being familiar with it led me to make the "likely never to be seen again ever thanks to today's "woke" climate" comment which is my firm opinion and which I don't quite see how you can refute
Can you give us a link to any article or anything that substantiates what you are saying about wokeness keeping old shows off of UK television?
Why would woke people want to ban a 70s show about a black family? If anything woke people want more shows about black familes.
By the way, did it ever occur to you that Amos And Andy being banned in the UK may have NOTHING AT ALL to do with the UK? Could be that when the NAACP stopped it from being shown on USA TV that the company that owned the rights to the show just decidedto not make it available anywhere in the world anymore. The UK may want to show it, but the shows are just not available.
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford ><mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 22:54:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:to put it on over there and "woke" people stopped it.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 4:37:31 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 20:48:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:28:01 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)I don't think it has anything to do with woke, which is mainly about white liberals. I think that black folks are the ones who didn't want it on even when it was current, and it's just stayed that way. Unless you can show that some network wanted
audience.When "Amos And Andy" first showed here it was on the BBC circa 1955 or so. As I recall it was popular and ran for a couple of years without any fuss or fanfare or adverse comment. .I've never heard of it causing any friction with the UK black
so strongly when I am over here as part of the current UK TV audience (already living with the banning of the 70's comedy sitcom "Love Thy Neighbour" featuring a black family)---and you are notBut the TV climate in the UK today is very different and being familiar with it led me to make the "likely never to be seen again ever thanks to today's "woke" climate" comment which is my firm opinion and which I don't quite see how you can refute
Can you give us a link to any article or anything that substantiates what you are saying about wokeness keeping old shows off of UK television?There's stuff on the net about the UK-made "Love Thy Neighbour" being banned on TV today. I would be very surprised if the earlier "Amos 'N' Andy" wasn't suffering the same fate
Incidentally "Amos 'N' Andy" was the very first US sitcom shown on UK TV (on the BBC) in 1954. I thought it was "I Married Joan" but every net source says not.decided to not make it available anywhere in the world anymore. The UK may want to show it, but the shows are just not available.
Why would woke people want to ban a 70s show about a black family? If anything woke people want more shows about black familes.
"Love Thy Neighbour" featured a black family in a working class neighborhood living next to a white family. I think a lot of the hostility towards this one comes from the...um...descriptive language used
By the way, did it ever occur to you that Amos And Andy being banned in the UK may have NOTHING AT ALL to do with the UK? Could be that when the NAACP stopped it from being shown on USA TV that the company that owned the rights to the show just
The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea. They may still own the UK rights
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:41:26 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:wanted to put it on over there and "woke" people stopped it.
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 22:54:11 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 4:37:31 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 20:48:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 3:28:01 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 18:07:22 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 12:25:58 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 21 October 2023 at 17:00:03 UTC+1, Jim Colegrove wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford <mari...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote: >> On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:11:04?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Friday, October 20, 2023 at 2:07:37?PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:Okay, I made it almost exactly half way through and couldn't take it any more. Horses, guns, Jesus, frontier living, just not my thing. Sorry.
Just turned it on. Not a good start for me when before you even see anything you hear the clip clop of a fucking horse.Sam Waterston???
Last time I saw him he was playing a fanook in "Grace And Frankie."
Here are my favorite TV shows, give you an idea of what I do like.
1 - The Honeymooners
This ultra-popular US TV series has NEVER shown on UK screens to my knowledge
2 - The Sopranos
My pick for best US TV series of all time. This one has NEVER been off UK TV screens since its inception. So wonderfully written and marvellously cast
5 - Sgt. Bilko
Or "You'll Never Get Rich" as the first episodes appeared here. Silvers created a wonderful comic character here
12 - The Tonight Show (Starring Johnny Carson)
Johnny who? He was totally unknown over here. I guarantee 99% of the UK populace will be completely unfamiliar with him
13 - All In The Family
I liked it ok but it was definitely second best to the UK original "Till Death Us Do Part" on which it was heavily based
22 - I Love Lucy
Before 1955 there was no commercial TV here. The only channel (yes just ONE channel!) was the staid old BBC. Then ITV appeared and promptly bought the UK rights to America's #1 show.
And immediately made it the UK's #1 show too
25 - Boardwalk Empire
Another of the best US TV shows ever IMO. Steve Buscemi is a tour de force in this
28 - Columbo
There's a channel here that shows nothing but old Columbo episodes every Sunday and has done the same for years.Falk is simply wonderfully cast in this
34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
Jim, I'm sure what you say is correct but my remarks about the "Amos & Andy" TV show were made as a UK viewer in regard to UK showings to a UK audienceBut haven't they been off the air in the UK for many decades? Long before the word "woke" was ever used the way it is now?0
Yes and yes
But several decades old US shows like "The Twilight Zone" and "The Outer Limits" for instance are being shown again after many many years on UK TV screens as we speak
That fate I fear will never be destined for "Amos And Andy" for the reason I gave (in fact I'm very surprised the YT episodes haven't been blocked to viewers here)I don't think it has anything to do with woke, which is mainly about white liberals. I think that black folks are the ones who didn't want it on even when it was current, and it's just stayed that way. Unless you can show that some network
audience.When "Amos And Andy" first showed here it was on the BBC circa 1955 or so. As I recall it was popular and ran for a couple of years without any fuss or fanfare or adverse comment. .I've never heard of it causing any friction with the UK black
refute so strongly when I am over here as part of the current UK TV audience (already living with the banning of the 70's comedy sitcom "Love Thy Neighbour" featuring a black family)---and you are notBut the TV climate in the UK today is very different and being familiar with it led me to make the "likely never to be seen again ever thanks to today's "woke" climate" comment which is my firm opinion and which I don't quite see how you can
decided to not make it available anywhere in the world anymore. The UK may want to show it, but the shows are just not available.Can you give us a link to any article or anything that substantiates what you are saying about wokeness keeping old shows off of UK television?There's stuff on the net about the UK-made "Love Thy Neighbour" being banned on TV today. I would be very surprised if the earlier "Amos 'N' Andy" wasn't suffering the same fate
Incidentally "Amos 'N' Andy" was the very first US sitcom shown on UK TV (on the BBC) in 1954. I thought it was "I Married Joan" but every net source says not.
Why would woke people want to ban a 70s show about a black family? If anything woke people want more shows about black familes.
"Love Thy Neighbour" featured a black family in a working class neighborhood living next to a white family. I think a lot of the hostility towards this one comes from the...um...descriptive language used
By the way, did it ever occur to you that Amos And Andy being banned in the UK may have NOTHING AT ALL to do with the UK? Could be that when the NAACP stopped it from being shown on USA TV that the company that owned the rights to the show just
The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea. They may still own the UK rightsThe right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or even jail )ever showing it again?
All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.
The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
jail ) ever showing it again?The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or even
All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:jail ) ever showing it again?
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or even
No you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter that
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:jail ) ever showing it again?
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or even
I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…heavy but the white bigot? This would be very painful for most whites to see, a show that talks about the white man and puts him down. It would strike indifferent whites as dangerous; it would be called controversial and they probably wouldn’t want to
PLAYBOY: Do you think that a series with a nonstereotyped all-black cast could be successful on TV today?
COSBY: Probably not. The kind of show you mean would have to be about the life of a black family, with all its struggles. But if you’re really going to do a series about a black family, you’re going to have to bring out the heavy; and who is the
I just found that so fascinating, as Cosby is BASICALLY describing All in the Family in a way, isn’t he?
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 11:00:00 -0500, Jim Colegrove
<coolg@thecoolgroove.com> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Oct 2023 00:45:45 -0700 (PDT), Roger Ford >><mariabus@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
On Friday, 20 October 2023 at 19:50:51 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
"Woke" culture, the connotation rascists and bigots created with34 - Amos And Andy
One of my 50's favorites too but sadly never seen these days (and likely never to be seen again ever) thanks to today's "woke" climate
perverted usage, had nothing to do with it. Read some history and see
what the NAACP had to do with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amos_%27n%27_Andy
"the NAACP mounted a formal protest almost as soon as the television
version began, describing the show as "a gross libel of the Negro and >distortion of the truth". In 1951 it released a bulletin on "Why the
Amos 'n' Andy TV Show Should Be Taken Off the Air." It stated that the
show "tends to strengthen the conclusion among uninformed and
prejudiced people that Negroes are inferior, lazy, dumb, and
dishonest, ... Every character" is "either a clown or a crook"; "Negro >doctors are shown as quacks and thieves"; "Negro lawyers are shown as >slippery cowards"; "Negro women are shown as cackling, screaming
shrews"; "All Negroes are shown as dodging work of any kind"; and
"Millions of white Americans see this Amos 'n' Andy picture of Negroes
and think the entire race is the same."
However, the above does seem to be an exaggeration;
for starters, Amos for me is neither a clown nor a crook, and bit
parts often portrayed pleasant, normal, well-dressed, middle-class
characters (of color)...
However, Kingfish (Tim Moore), told to speak like Radio Kingfish, did >act/sound like a Minstrel. And Sapphire and Mama could come across as >shouting shrews on occasion.
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:even jail ) ever showing it again?
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or
No you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter thatPURCHASING The series is only for the first run episodes that they were limited to either 2 showings, or to one calendar year worth of showings. No PURCHASE of any show for any country gave the purchaser rights to show the episodes forever.
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
I don't have a NY Times prescription, but anybody who does can see the full article from 1954 where they report on the BBC then getting the rights to broadcast Amos N Andy.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1954/04/07/92563836.html
I also found this somewhere:
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
I don't think there were any "woke" people in 1957.
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:47:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:even jail ) ever showing it again?
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine or
No you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter thatPURCHASING The series is only for the first run episodes that they were limited to either 2 showings, or to one calendar year worth of showings. No PURCHASE of any show for any country gave the purchaser rights to show the episodes forever.
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
That can't hold true in every case. I've had satellite TV for many,many years now and in that time the 5USA channel has always shown nothing but old "Columbo" episodes all day on Sundays every Sunday without fail.
So obviously they have some kind of really long term deal with the US owner of the series (Universal I think)
I don't have a NY Times prescription, but anybody who does can see the full article from 1954 where they report on the BBC then getting the rights to broadcast Amos N Andy.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1954/04/07/92563836.html
I can't access the NY Times pages either
I also found this somewhere:
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
I know the show received criticism in the US but I don't recall ever reading anything adverse against it over here
"Great Western" is an oxymoron.
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 2:22:50 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:or even jail ) ever showing it again?
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:47:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine
No you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter thatPURCHASING The series is only for the first run episodes that they were limited to either 2 showings, or to one calendar year worth of showings. No PURCHASE of any show for any country gave the purchaser rights to show the episodes forever.
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
That can't hold true in every case. I've had satellite TV for many,many years now and in that time the 5USA channel has always shown nothing but old "Columbo" episodes all day on Sundays every Sunday without fail.
So obviously they have some kind of really long term deal with the US owner of the series (Universal I think)
I don't have a NY Times prescription, but anybody who does can see the full article from 1954 where they report on the BBC then getting the rights to broadcast Amos N Andy.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1954/04/07/92563836.html
I can't access the NY Times pages either
I also found this somewhere:
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
I know the show received criticism in the US but I don't recall ever reading anything adverse against it over here
Were you reading the papers thoroughly at 10 years old? Even if you were that may not have been the kind of things that made the censoring UK papers in the 50s.
On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 07:49:27 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:or even jail ) ever showing it again?
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 2:22:50 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:47:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy fine
Amos 'N'' Andy" fan but I don't ever recall reading anything adverse about the show.In fact I don't recall reading much about it at allNo you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter thatPURCHASING The series is only for the first run episodes that they were limited to either 2 showings, or to one calendar year worth of showings. No PURCHASE of any show for any country gave the purchaser rights to show the episodes forever.
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
That can't hold true in every case. I've had satellite TV for many,many years now and in that time the 5USA channel has always shown nothing but old "Columbo" episodes all day on Sundays every Sunday without fail.
So obviously they have some kind of really long term deal with the US owner of the series (Universal I think)
I don't have a NY Times prescription, but anybody who does can see the full article from 1954 where they report on the BBC then getting the rights to broadcast Amos N Andy.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1954/04/07/92563836.html
I can't access the NY Times pages either
I also found this somewhere:
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
I know the show received criticism in the US but I don't recall ever reading anything adverse against it over here
Were you reading the papers thoroughly at 10 years old? Even if you were that may not have been the kind of things that made the censoring UK papers in the 50s.Yes,I was always an avid newspaper reader especially the showbiz and TV pages. My father was a local moderate Labour (left wing) councillor so we had the left supporting Daily Mirror (at the time the UK's biggest selling daily) delivered. I was an "
I don't understand "censoring UK papers"???
And BTW I was ELEVEN years old in 1957 :)
On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 17:26:32 UTC+1, Roger Ford wrote:
We never had TV till commercial TV sta rted here in 1955. "Amos 'N' Andy" was on the n a nd became a favorite. I would have been nine at that time
Sorry I should have said more clearly we never HAD a TV in the house till 1955
We never had TV till commercial TV sta rted here in 1955. "Amos 'N' Andy" was on the n a nd became a favorite. I would have been nine at that time
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 7:59:52 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:fine or even jail ) ever showing it again?
On Monday, 23 October 2023 at 07:49:27 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 2:22:50 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:47:41 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 3:34:33 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 22 October 2023 at 20:03:35 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Sunday, October 22, 2023 at 2:48:23 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
I do. It did not include a syndication that did not even exist yet.The show ran here from 1954 until about 1958 maybe a little later. The show was purchased by the BBC for the UK market but on what terms I've no idea.
The right to the reruns in syndication are a totally separate thing that the right to first run current episodes.You're quoting the usual situation as it occurs in the USA I'm not sure the same procedures occur with foreign licensing and sales of TV series
but nobody in their right mind could ever imagine the ultra-woke BBC state broadcaster (who just days ago couldn't even bring themselves to call HAMAS "terrorists"---and who are funded by yearly mandatory licence fee on pain of heavy
Amos 'N'' Andy" fan but I don't ever recall reading anything adverse about the show.In fact I don't recall reading much about it at allNo you don't. You keep quoting material as it relates to the US situation regarding "Amos 'N' Andy" which I do not doubt is completely true as far as the USA is concerned.I do.All of which means nothing if the current rights owner does not want to let them be seen anywhere. The BBC broadcaster may not have anything to do with it not being seen.As I said before the BBC definitely PURCHASED the "Amos 'N' Andy" series in 1954. But whether that was "in perpetuity" I don't know
But as I keep saying the BBC here PURCHASED the series in 1954 and if that sale gave "in perpetuity" rights (as it may have done) then it still owns them. And no foreign court can affect or alter thatPURCHASING The series is only for the first run episodes that they were limited to either 2 showings, or to one calendar year worth of showings. No PURCHASE of any show for any country gave the purchaser rights to show the episodes forever.
As an amusing aside, later in that interview, Cosby had this to say about depicting racial issues in television…
That can't hold true in every case. I've had satellite TV for many,many years now and in that time the 5USA channel has always shown nothing but old "Columbo" episodes all day on Sundays every Sunday without fail.
So obviously they have some kind of really long term deal with the US owner of the series (Universal I think)
I don't have a NY Times prescription, but anybody who does can see the full article from 1954 where they report on the BBC then getting the rights to broadcast Amos N Andy.
https://timesmachine.nytimes.com/timesmachine/1954/04/07/92563836.html
I can't access the NY Times pages either
I also found this somewhere:
The BBC did eventually stop airing the show in 1957, after facing criticism from some viewers who found the show's portrayal of African Americans to be offensive.
I know the show received criticism in the US but I don't recall ever reading anything adverse against it over here
Were you reading the papers thoroughly at 10 years old? Even if you were that may not have been the kind of things that made the censoring UK papers in the 50s.Yes,I was always an avid newspaper reader especially the showbiz and TV pages. My father was a local moderate Labour (left wing) councillor so we had the left supporting Daily Mirror (at the time the UK's biggest selling daily) delivered. I was an "
So you were an "Amos 'N' Andy" fan already as like an 8-10 year old kid?
I don't understand "censoring UK papers"???As strict as the BBC was with what could be played on the air I would think that the newspapers there in the 50s would often stay away from any kind of controversial or risque stories that weren't "hard news."
remembering back almost 70 years as to whether or not you read anything about people having a problem with the show, I have no doubt that you must have a clear memory of when one of your favorite TV shows was suddenly not on anymore sometime in 1957,And BTW I was ELEVEN years old in 1957 :)
I know you were born in '46, but the complaining about the show would've started taking place before 1957, and depending upon what month you were born in, the show may have been taken off before you hit 11. The show started there in 1954. So with you
Phyllis Coates, who played Lois in the first season of the TV
"Superman," recently died--she made it to 96! The obit explained how
Noelle Neal played the part in the movies but couldn't do the TV show because of prior commitments. When she became available in time for
Season 2, Phyllis got the axe.
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the
UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised controversial and risque stories into an art form.
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 4:54:38 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
Phyllis Coates, who played Lois in the first season of the TVIn the original drawings from the '30s and '40s, Lois Lane seemed to have a Rosalind Russell quality. I always thought that Phyllis Coates offered that quality much more that Noel Neill.
"Superman," recently died--she made it to 96! The obit explained how Noelle Neal played the part in the movies but couldn't do the TV show because of prior commitments. When she became available in time for
Season 2, Phyllis got the axe.
--
BR
On Friday, October 27, 2023 at 5:40:42 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 21, 2023 at 4:54:38 PM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:
Phyllis Coates, who played Lois in the first season of the TV "Superman," recently died--she made it to 96! The obit explained how Noelle Neal played the part in the movies but couldn't do the TV show because of prior commitments. When she became available in time for Season 2, Phyllis got the axe.In the original drawings from the '30s and '40s, Lois Lane seemed to have a Rosalind Russell quality. I always thought that Phyllis Coates offered that quality much more that Noel Neill.
--Yes, Coates looked more glamorous on the show, but Neill was better in the part IMO.
BR
Neill could also look glamorous if she wanted to.
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTEyOTI0ODk5ODdeQTJeQWpwZ15BbWU3MDM1NjEyNjg@._V1_.jpg
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 12:26:32 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:---------
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the
UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised
controversial
and risque stories into an art form.
American knowledge of "The News Of The World" is limited entirely to:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line
and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are incomprehensibe to me.
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 12:26:32 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:---------
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the
UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised controversial
and risque stories into an art form.
American knowledge of "The News Of The World" is limited entirely to:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
On 10/28/2023 6:39 AM, DianeE wrote:
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 12:26:32 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:---------
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the
UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised
controversial
and risque stories into an art form.
American knowledge of "The News Of The World" is limited entirely to:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are incomprehensibe to me.
===========
That's incomprehensibLe, sorry. Anyhow thanks Bob for this bit of info!
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt---------
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line
and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road
Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are incomprehensibe to me.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:39:56 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:------------
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt---------
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line
and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road
Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are
incomprehensibe to me.
Unless I'm forgetting something, the Polythene Pam section is the only rock song composed of limericks.
On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 11:41:46 UTC+1, DianeE wrote:
On 10/28/2023 6:39 AM, DianeE wrote:
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:===========
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 12:26:32 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:---------
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the
UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised
controversial
and risque stories into an art form.
American knowledge of "The News Of The World" is limited entirely to:
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line >>> and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road
Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are
incomprehensibe to me.
That's incomprehensibLe, sorry. Anyhow thanks Bob for this bit of info!
I don't like the thing to start with but it's maybe the Scouse accents that are not helping the incomprehensibility (is there such a word? Well there is now)
for you? If its any consolation those "oop North" accents throw me just as much
On 10/28/2023 8:45 AM, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 11:41:46 UTC+1, DianeE wrote:
On 10/28/2023 6:39 AM, DianeE wrote:
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:===========
On Monday, October 23, 2023 at 12:26:32 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote: >>>>---------
Ha ha you have obviously never heard of "The News Of The World" the >>>>> UK best selling Sunday paper that even in those days raised
controversial
and risque stories into an art form.
American knowledge of "The News Of The World" is limited entirely to: >>>>
Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line >>> and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road
Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are >>> incomprehensibe to me.
That's incomprehensibLe, sorry. Anyhow thanks Bob for this bit of info!
I don't like the thing to start with but it's maybe the Scouse accents that are not helping the incomprehensibility (is there such a word? Well there is now)
for you? If its any consolation those "oop North" accents throw me just as much
----------
Well...Mick Jagger's from London and I understand even less of what he sings.
Well...Mick Jagger's from London and I understand even less of what he
sings.
On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 17:13:09 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:08:12 -0400, DianeE <Dia...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
Well...Mick Jagger's from London and I understand even less of what he >sings.What's more, Mick doesn't even have a Cockney accent. (Does Roger? :-)
Wiki:Jagger doesn't have a genuine Cockney accent since he was born in Dartford and as far as I can make out lived there up to the advent of the Rolling Stones.
"Jagger was born into a middle-class family in Dartford, Kent, on 26
July 1943. His father, Basil Fanshawe "Joe" Jagger, was a gymnast and physical education teacher who helped popularise basketball in
Britain. His paternal grandfather, David Ernest Jagger, was also a teacher. His mother, Eva Ensley Mary (née Scutts), born in Sydney of English descent, was a hairdresser who was politically active in the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom."
Dartford is in another county entirely (Kent)---on the south side of the Thames-----and some 25 miles from London proper
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK not Alabama :)
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:08:12 -0400, DianeE <Dia...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
Well...Mick Jagger's from London and I understand even less of what he >sings.What's more, Mick doesn't even have a Cockney accent. (Does Roger? :-)
Wiki:
"Jagger was born into a middle-class family in Dartford, Kent, on 26
July 1943. His father, Basil Fanshawe "Joe" Jagger, was a gymnast and physical education teacher who helped popularise basketball in
Britain. His paternal grandfather, David Ernest Jagger, was also a
teacher. His mother, Eva Ensley Mary (née Scutts), born in Sydney of English descent, was a hairdresser who was politically active in the Conservative Party in the United Kingdom."
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in
London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK
not Alabama :)
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK
not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'na
Very good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK
not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'na
On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 20:23:25 UTC+1, Roger Ford wrote:
On Saturday, 28 October 2023 at 17:13:09 UTC+1, RWC wrote:
On Sat, 28 Oct 2023 11:08:12 -0400, DianeE <Dia...@NoSpam.net> wrote:
Well...Mick Jagger's from London and I understand even less of what he
sings.
Whoa!, Mick doesn't even have a Cockney accent. (Does Roger? :-)
Wiki:
"Jagger was born into a middle-class family in Dartford, Kent, on 26
July 1943. His father, Basil Fanshawe "Joe" Jagger, was a gymnast and
physical education teacher who helped popularise basketball in
Britain. His paternal grandfather, David Ernest Jagger, was also a
teacher. His mother, Eva Ensley Mary (ne Scutts), born in Sydney of
English descent, was a hairdresser who was politically active in the
Conservative Party in the United Kingdom."
Jagger doesn't have a genuine Cockney accent since he was born in Dartford and as far as I can make out lived there up to the advent of the Rolling Stones.
Dartford is in another county entirely (Kent)---on the south side of the Thames-----and some 25 miles from London proper
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK not Alabama :)
So what accent does Geoff have?
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:39:56 AM UTC-4, DianeE wrote:--------
On 10/27/2023 5:48 PM, Bob Roman wrote:
Unless I'm forgetting something, the Polythene Pam section is the only rock song composed of limericks.Get a dose of her in jackboots and kilt---------
She's killer-diller when she's dressed to the hilt
She's the kind of a girl that makes the "News of the World"
Yes, you could say she was attractively built
Until now I had no idea what those lyrics were, except for the last line and the phrase "she's killer-diller." They come from the "Abbey Road Medley" which is my favorite Beatles song, but many of its lyrics are incomprehensibe to me.
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
In Birmingham they luv the guv'na
Very good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.Diane did not even get it!
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:02:51 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
In Birmingham they luv the guv'na
We all did wot we cou'd doVery good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.Diane did not even get it!
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 8:02:51 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 7:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
Diane did not even get it!In Birmingham they luv the guv'na
Very good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
We all did wot we cou'd do
--
BR
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK
not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'naVery good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
On Sunday, 29 October 2023 at 00:53:48 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK
not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'naVery good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
There's an even better chance that he does :)
On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:05:44 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 29 October 2023 at 00:53:48 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in
London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'naVery good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
There's an even better chance that he does :)Turn it up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5BuYf8q4o
On Monday, 30 October 2023 at 06:27:24 UTC, Bruce wrote:
On Monday, October 30, 2023 at 2:05:44 AM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
On Sunday, 29 October 2023 at 00:53:48 UTC+1, Bruce wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 6:24:34 PM UTC-4, Bob Roman wrote:
On Saturday, October 28, 2023 at 3:23:25 PM UTC-4, Roger Ford wrote:
Roger doesn't have a Cockney accent either since although he lived in
London for many years he originally came from Birmingham (thats UK not Alabama :)
In Birmingham they luv the guv'naVery good chance that Roger does not get this reference I think.
There's an even better chance that he does :)Turn it up!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ye5BuYf8q4o
Reminds me of the haul of records (including the Jess Hooper rarity) we found one time in Tuscaloosa
Sweet Alabama indeed!
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