Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way it’s good to have
just the adults here.
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I haven’t >> seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way it’s good >> to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the end
of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just 3 guys
in a triangular echo chamber.
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the
end of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just
3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
I'm fine with never talking with a liberal again. They suck the intelligence right outta ya.
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I haven’t >> seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way it’s good >> to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the end
of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just 3 guys
in a triangular echo chamber.
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the
end of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just
3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
It is nice being able to hold intelligent conversations now though.
One thing you can count on from democrats - when the going gets tough,
they get going... home.
George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the
end of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just
3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
It is nice being able to hold intelligent conversations now though.
One thing you can count on from democrats - when the going gets tough,
they get going... home.
Picture us sitting on stools in the echo chamber:
Yeah
Yeah Yeah
What fun is that?
On 7/15/2024 8:08 PM, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the
end of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are just
3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
It is nice being able to hold intelligent conversations now though.
One thing you can count on from democrats - when the going gets
tough, they get going... home.
Picture us sitting on stools in the echo chamber:
Yeah
Yeah Yeah
What fun is that?
I guess you are right... and correct. Although, always winning gets
boring sometimes. I do miss the tete-a-tetes with pompous ass liberals
like Senor Smoke (AKA Pompous Ass TB, Captain Cut and Paste, etc), dIm
and Mensa. They are humorless liberals but they sure provide a lot of
comic relief. Apparently, they all took the road traveled by The Twins
some years ago.
On 7/17/2024 11:04 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 8:08 PM, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to atrophy
without some resistance, and I could end up being a Democrat at the
end of the day going forward. Right now, you, sticks, and I are
just 3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
It is nice being able to hold intelligent conversations now though.
One thing you can count on from democrats - when the going gets
tough, they get going... home.
Picture us sitting on stools in the echo chamber:
Yeah
Yeah Yeah
What fun is that?
I guess you are right... and correct. Although, always winning gets
boring sometimes. I do miss the tete-a-tetes with pompous ass liberals
like Senor Smoke (AKA Pompous Ass TB, Captain Cut and Paste, etc), dIm
and Mensa. They are humorless liberals but they sure provide a lot of
comic relief. Apparently, they all took the road traveled by The Twins
some years ago.
When I added this group to my list, I was unaware of the history of the group. I thought it would be about RVs. I did a bit of research and
found it has always been this way here regarding political talk. I call
it talk, because you can't really call what goes on as discussion. It's more like banter, if you're being generous. Insulting political dogma
if your being honest. It doesn't take much of that and I end up just blocking all the idiots. I find the positions of today's Marxist
democrats too dumb to be able to have any useful discussion. Too many
lies, too much insanity, and just plain dumb.
Other than discussing RV things, I'm suggest discussing actual policy if
you want to have a place for reasonable debate. The conservatives have differing opinions on things and can actually learn from each other.
I'll start with an example.
I can't go for the transgender thing like the left wants where it is all
in our kids faces. I want them protected from what I think is a mental health issue. That said, at least in the US, an adult should be able to
do what they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else. So what kinds
of limits or rules need to be enacted to allow their freedom, while
still protecting our children and our society?
Speaking of, have you taken your maiden voyage yet?
On 7/18/2024 9:36 AM, George Anthony wrote:
Speaking of, have you taken your maiden voyage yet?
Haven't had time with helping Mom get new windows which I had to make
sure got put in right and then I had to do the trim work. The blinds
will have to wait for now.
Yesterday and today I'm working on getting my parking spot dug out for
the RV. Hopefully, I'll finish the digging and grading tomorrow and
get a load of stone on Saturday. Looking forward to spending some
time figuring out how everything works on it.
On 7/17/2024 11:04 AM, George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 8:08 PM, bfh wrote:
George Anthony wrote:
On 7/15/2024 3:44 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
Even our resident loons have abandoned the Biden Titanic. I
haven’t seen
any nonsensical posts from any of them in weeks. In a way
it’s good to have
just the adults here.
I wish they'd come back and push back. My brain is going to
atrophy without some resistance, and I could end up being a
Democrat at the end of the day going forward. Right now, you,
sticks, and I are just 3 guys in a triangular echo chamber.
It is nice being able to hold intelligent conversations now
though. One thing you can count on from democrats - when the going
gets tough, they get going... home.
Picture us sitting on stools in the echo chamber:
     Yeah
Yeah   Yeah
What fun is that?
I guess you are right... and correct. Although, always winningÂ
gets boring sometimes. I do miss the tete-a-tetes with pompous ass
liberals like Senor Smoke (AKA Pompous Ass TB, Captain Cut and
Paste, etc), dIm and Mensa. They are humorless liberals but they
sure provide a lot of comic relief. Apparently, they all took the
road traveled by The Twins some years ago.
When I added this group to my list, I was unaware of the history of
the group. I thought it would be about RVs. I did a bit of research
and found it has always been this way here regarding political talk.
I call it talk, because you can't really call what goes on as
discussion. It's more like banter, if you're being generous.
Insulting political dogma if your being honest. It doesn't take much
of that and I end up just blocking all the idiots. I find the
positions of today's Marxist democrats too dumb to be able to have any
useful discussion. Too many lies, too much insanity, and just plain
dumb.
Other than discussing RV things, I'm suggest discussing actual policy
if you want to have a place for reasonable debate. The conservatives
have differing opinions on things and can actually learn from each
other. I'll start with an example.
I can't go for the transgender thing like the left wants where it is
all in our kids faces. I want them protected from what I think is a
mental health issue. That said, at least in the US, an adult should
be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
So what kinds of limits or rules need to be enacted to allow their
freedom, while still protecting our children and our society?
sticks wrote:
On 7/18/2024 9:36 AM, George Anthony wrote:
Speaking of, have you taken your maiden voyage yet?
Haven't had time with helping Mom get new windows which I had to make
sure got put in right and then I had to do the trim work. The blinds
will have to wait for now.
Yesterday and today I'm working on getting my parking spot dug out for
the RV. Hopefully, I'll finish the digging and grading tomorrow and
get a load of stone on Saturday. Looking forward to spending some
time figuring out how everything works on it.
Dug out? It's going to double as a bunker after the apocalypse?
Other than discussing RV things, I'm suggest discussing actual policy
if you want to have a place for reasonable debate. The conservatives
have differing opinions on things and can actually learn from each
other. I'll start with an example.
I can't go for the transgender thing like the left wants where it is
all in our kids faces. I want them protected from what I think is a
mental health issue. That said, at least in the US, an adult should
be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm anyone else.
So what kinds of limits or rules need to be enacted to allow their
freedom, while still protecting our children and our society?
damn. Could you start off with something easier?
On 7/18/2024 3:51 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 7/18/2024 9:36 AM, George Anthony wrote:
Speaking of, have you taken your maiden voyage yet?
Haven't had time with helping Mom get new windows which I had to
make sure got put in right and then I had to do the trim work.Â
The blinds will have to wait for now.
Yesterday and today I'm working on getting my parking spot dug out
for the RV. Hopefully, I'll finish the digging and grading
tomorrow and get a load of stone on Saturday. Looking forward to
spending some time figuring out how everything works on it.
Dug out? It's going to double as a bunker after the apocalypse?
Had a perfect grassy area alongside the garage where it is landing.
Probably just get the stone in this year, let it settle for a winter,
and decide how I want to pave it next year. I have done several
paving brick things on the property, but I'm a little hesitant using
them with the weight involved. Leaning towards concrete.
On 7/18/2024 3:49 PM, bfh wrote:
Other than discussing RV things, I'm suggest discussing actual
policy if you want to have a place for reasonable debate. The
conservatives have differing opinions on things and can actually
learn from each other. I'll start with an example.
I can't go for the transgender thing like the left wants where it
is all in our kids faces. I want them protected from what I think
is a mental health issue. That said, at least in the US, an adult
should be able to do what they want as long as it doesn't harm
anyone else. So what kinds of limits or rules need to be enacted to
allow their freedom, while still protecting our children and our
society?
damn. Could you start off with something easier?
OK, how about abortion.
Personally, I think it is in just the right
spot now. Leave it to each state to do what their voters want.
However, I am not really ok with any of this late term stuff. I mean
for fucks sake, it is a living baby and it's a gruesome thing done to them. I gotta think about it some more.
One thing I'm sure of is who pays for it. Here is shit hole Illinois,
they want to pay for all abortions. For me, if you want an abortion,
you pay for it.
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful things. Only
spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage information. It is easy to drive and get around, and makes it easy to go off and explore if we want.
I will certainly look at getting the additional 30 gallon tank for fresh water. The black and gray tanks never even showed coming up off empty
on the gauge, so they never got above 1/3 full. Got down to showing 1/3
on the 30 gallon fresh water tank, but it was probably somewhere there
and 1/2. With 60 gallons, I can see easily going a week without
anything and being able to stay anywhere.
The mileage was good, with it getting 17.8 MPG on the way up on smaller roads, and 17.7 on the interstate at 70 MPH.
Had to run off a 20 amp 120 Volt plug the first night because the 30 amp
was broken, and it ran everything just fine, even with the AC on. Did
feel better once I was able to plug into the 30 amp the next day though.
But watching the power watchdog for how much it was drawing, I actually
think the solar will keep up pretty well with the fridge on and
occasional pump and minimal light usage. Might have to start the engine
or generator occasionally, but I don't see it as a big issue unless it
gets hot.
Finding a couple little things like a closet light that wouldn't hit the
push button to turn off, cross threaded outside water shower I'll have
to fix, but for the most part it all worked as expected.
Did have several campers stop by to inquire about the jack system it
has. Seems like many had not seen one like it on the Class C rigs.
Anyway, it was a good first outing.
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful things. OnlyGood to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to finding little things needing fixing, they all have that issue... even the Prevosts. As
spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage information. It is easy
to drive and get around, and makes it easy to go off and explore if we
want.
I will certainly look at getting the additional 30 gallon tank for
fresh water. The black and gray tanks never even showed coming up off
empty on the gauge, so they never got above 1/3 full. Got down to
showing 1/3 on the 30 gallon fresh water tank, but it was probably
somewhere there and 1/2. With 60 gallons, I can see easily going a
week without anything and being able to stay anywhere.
The mileage was good, with it getting 17.8 MPG on the way up on
smaller roads, and 17.7 on the interstate at 70 MPH.
Had to run off a 20 amp 120 Volt plug the first night because the 30
amp was broken, and it ran everything just fine, even with the AC on.
Did feel better once I was able to plug into the 30 amp the next day
though.
But watching the power watchdog for how much it was drawing, I
actually think the solar will keep up pretty well with the fridge on
and occasional pump and minimal light usage. Might have to start the
engine or generator occasionally, but I don't see it as a big issue
unless it gets hot.
Finding a couple little things like a closet light that wouldn't hit
the push button to turn off, cross threaded outside water shower I'll
have to fix, but for the most part it all worked as expected.
Did have several campers stop by to inquire about the jack system it
has. Seems like many had not seen one like it on the Class C rigs.
Anyway, it was a good first outing.
to the 17+ mpg, I would give an arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a
good day. I do tow a pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
On 8/20/2024 4:50 PM, George Anthony wrote:
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful things. OnlyGood to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to finding little
spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage information. It is easy
to drive and get around, and makes it easy to go off and explore if we
want.
I will certainly look at getting the additional 30 gallon tank for
fresh water. The black and gray tanks never even showed coming up off
empty on the gauge, so they never got above 1/3 full. Got down to
showing 1/3 on the 30 gallon fresh water tank, but it was probably
somewhere there and 1/2. With 60 gallons, I can see easily going a
week without anything and being able to stay anywhere.
The mileage was good, with it getting 17.8 MPG on the way up on
smaller roads, and 17.7 on the interstate at 70 MPH.
Had to run off a 20 amp 120 Volt plug the first night because the 30
amp was broken, and it ran everything just fine, even with the AC on.
Did feel better once I was able to plug into the 30 amp the next day
though.
But watching the power watchdog for how much it was drawing, I
actually think the solar will keep up pretty well with the fridge on
and occasional pump and minimal light usage. Might have to start the
engine or generator occasionally, but I don't see it as a big issue
unless it gets hot.
Finding a couple little things like a closet light that wouldn't hit
the push button to turn off, cross threaded outside water shower I'll
have to fix, but for the most part it all worked as expected.
Did have several campers stop by to inquire about the jack system it
has. Seems like many had not seen one like it on the Class C rigs.
Anyway, it was a good first outing.
things needing fixing, they all have that issue... even the Prevosts. As
to the 17+ mpg, I would give an arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a
good day. I do tow a pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
Yeah, my brother is down like that with about the same sizes as you. It
will be interesting to see how far down the MPG goes when pulling the
TOAD. I'm hoping it at least stays over 12 MPG. I think it will just
chug along nicely on the flats or even small hills. It's getting in the mountains I wonder if it will be able.
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful
things. Only spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage
information. It is easy to drive and get around, and makes it
easy to go off and explore if we want.
I will certainly look at getting the additional 30 gallon tank
for fresh water. The black and gray tanks never even showed
coming up off empty on the gauge, so they never got above 1/3
full. Got down to showing 1/3 on the 30 gallon fresh water
tank, but it was probably somewhere there and 1/2. With 60
gallons, I can see easily going a week without anything and
being able to stay anywhere.
The mileage was good, with it getting 17.8 MPG on the way up
on smaller roads, and 17.7 on the interstate at 70 MPH.
Had to run off a 20 amp 120 Volt plug the first night because
the 30 amp was broken, and it ran everything just fine, even
with the AC on. Did feel better once I was able to plug into
the 30 amp the next day though. But watching the power
watchdog for how much it was drawing, I actually think the
solar will keep up pretty well with the fridge on and
occasional pump and minimal light usage. Might have to start
the engine or generator occasionally, but I don't see it as a
big issue unless it gets hot.
Finding a couple little things like a closet light that
wouldn't hit the push button to turn off, cross threaded
outside water shower I'll have to fix, but for the most part
it all worked as expected.
Did have several campers stop by to inquire about the jack
system it has. Seems like many had not seen one like it on
the Class C rigs.
Anyway, it was a good first outing.
Good to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to
finding little things needing fixing, they all have that
issue... even the Prevosts. As to the 17+ mpg, I would give an
arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a good day. I do tow a
pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
On 8/21/2024 12:28 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:50:54 -0500,
George Anthony <ganthony@gmail.org> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful
things. Only spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage
information. It is easy to drive and get around, and makes it
easy to go off and explore if we want.
Did I miss a description somewhere of what you have for a new rig?
I got one of these: <https://www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes/class-c/view/2025-24d>
In any case, good to hear things went well!
Thanks. I did have to read the manual a few times 8-)
---snip---
Good to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to
finding little things needing fixing, they all have that
issue... even the Prevosts. As to the 17+ mpg, I would give an
arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a good day. I do tow a
pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
Agree that would be lovely mpg. I generally get ~12 towing a
Lance 1475 with my Acadia at ~60 mph. It drops pretty quickly if
I go faster (plus the towing get a little less steady).
I almost got a 35' Renegade that had a 8.9 Litre Cummins in it. I think
it was like 450 horse power. That thing would have drank the diesel,
which is probably why it had a 100 gallon fuel tank.
On 8/21/2024 12:28 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:50:54 -0500,
George Anthony <ganthony@gmail.org> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful
things. Only spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage
information. It is easy to drive and get around, and makes it
easy to go off and explore if we want.
Did I miss a description somewhere of what you have for a new rig?
I got one of these: <https://www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes/class-c/view/2025-24d>
In any case, good to hear things went well!
Thanks. I did have to read the manual a few times 8-)
---snip---
Good to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to
finding little things needing fixing, they all have that
issue... even the Prevosts. As to the 17+ mpg, I would give an
arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a good day. I do tow a
pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
Agree that would be lovely mpg. I generally get ~12 towing a
Lance 1475 with my Acadia at ~60 mph. It drops pretty quickly if
I go faster (plus the towing get a little less steady).
I almost got a 35' Renegade that had a 8.9 Litre Cummins in it. I
think it was like 450 horse power. That thing would have drank the
diesel, which is probably why it had a 100 gallon fuel tank.
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 16:50:54 -0500,
George Anthony <ganthony@gmail.org> wrote:
On 8/20/2024 4:32 PM, sticks wrote:
Got the first small trip in and learned a lot of useful
things. Only spent 3 days away, so not any extended usage
information. It is easy to drive and get around, and makes it
easy to go off and explore if we want.
Did I miss a description somewhere of what you have for a new rig?
In any case, good to hear things went well!
Good to hear you had a mostly trouble free outing. As to
finding little things needing fixing, they all have that
issue... even the Prevosts. As to the 17+ mpg, I would give an
arm and a leg for that. I'm at 7.5 on a good day. I do tow a
pickup truck and my MH is a 39 footer.
Agree that would be lovely mpg. I generally get ~12 towing a
Lance 1475 with my Acadia at ~60 mph. It drops pretty quickly if
I go faster (plus the towing get a little less steady).
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:28 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Agree that would be lovely mpg. I generally get ~12 towing a
Lance 1475 with my Acadia at ~60 mph. It drops pretty quickly if
I go faster (plus the towing get a little less steady).
I almost got a 35' Renegade that had a 8.9 Litre Cummins in it. I think
it was like 450 horse power. That thing would have drank the diesel,
which is probably why it had a 100 gallon fuel tank.
Nah, man. That’s so you can go farther on a tank.
I got one of these:
<https://www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes/class-c/view/2025-24d>
That's a good looking machine - but I hope you don't put a throw rug to
watch the sunset in the boondocks.
On 8/21/2024 6:46 PM, bfh wrote:
I got one of these:
<https://www.winnebago.com/models/product/motorhomes/class-c/view/2025-24d>
That's a good looking machine - but I hope you don't put a throw rug
to watch the sunset in the boondocks.
I had a small one we used last trip. Ordered a 9X12 a couple days
ago. But I'm glad you told me about this. I didn't know doing that
was a bad thing.
On 8/21/2024 6:39 PM, George.Anthony wrote:
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 8/21/2024 12:28 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Agree that would be lovely mpg. I generally get ~12 towing a
Lance 1475 with my Acadia at ~60 mph. It drops pretty quickly if
I go faster (plus the towing get a little less steady).
I almost got a 35' Renegade that had a 8.9 Litre Cummins in it. I think >>> it was like 450 horse power. That thing would have drank the diesel,
which is probably why it had a 100 gallon fuel tank.
Nah, man. That’s so you can go farther on a tank.
Heh, also so you can off grid longer. Had an 8000 Watt Diesel Onan.
I really didn't care about the fuel, and actually thought it would be
great having a monster like that. 20,000 lb hitch. 150 gallon
freshwater tank. The thing was a beast and could pull anything I have
or might get. Only problem was I couldn't keep it at my home because of
the hilly property I have. Still, I almost did it.
In the end, I'm good with the View. It's parked right outside the
garage where I want it.
In the end, I'm good with the View. It's parked right outside the
garage where I want it.
It's good to be able to keep an eye on it and not depend on storage lot security. I keep mine on my property... and it's within 9mm distance if someone sketchy approaches.
--
On 8/23/2024 4:29 PM, George Anthony wrote:
In the end, I'm good with the View. It's parked right outside the
garage where I want it.
It's good to be able to keep an eye on it and not depend on storage lot
security. I keep mine on my property... and it's within 9mm distance if
someone sketchy approaches.
--
"within 9mm distance". I really like that!
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