Hi all,
I may have alluded to this before, but last time we camped on a
flatspot in our Lance 1475 the night temps dropped into the 40s or
50s and I had trouble running the furnace on 12 V. It's a Truma
Combi Eco Plus; the gas would fire up and the fan would run for a
minute or two, then stop--without having brought the inside temp
up to the thermostat setting.
You may recall that this unit was replaced under warranty earlier
this year (due to E6H error codes suggesting combustion air motor
problems). But this more recent behavior doesn't seem connected.
As near as I can tell, the unit should run on propane with 12 V
power for the fan. The battery was at full 100 Ah capacity, so it
wasn't a low charge state. I'm wondering if being LI is a factor,
for example is it possible there is internal resistance in the
battery that limits the current? Seems crazy, but I'm not sure
what else to think. FWIW, it's a Li Time battery (from China),
and has worked as expected or even better.
I plan to call my dealer, but thought I'd check in with the
experienced folks here first.
On 11/19/2024 9:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
I may have alluded to this before, but last time we camped on
a flatspot in our Lance 1475 the night temps dropped into the
40s or 50s and I had trouble running the furnace on 12 V.
It's a Truma Combi Eco Plus; the gas would fire up and the fan
would run for a minute or two, then stop--without having
brought the inside temp up to the thermostat setting.
You may recall that this unit was replaced under warranty
earlier this year (due to E6H error codes suggesting
combustion air motor problems). But this more recent behavior
doesn't seem connected.
As near as I can tell, the unit should run on propane with 12
V power for the fan. The battery was at full 100 Ah capacity,
so it wasn't a low charge state. I'm wondering if being LI is
a factor, for example is it possible there is internal
resistance in the battery that limits the current? Seems
crazy, but I'm not sure what else to think. FWIW, it's a Li
Time battery (from China), and has worked as expected or even
better.
If the furnace actually operates as it should when it is
running, I would first think about the thermostat. For
example, I would try and raise it higher to see if it runs
longer and then shuts off still without reaching desired
temperature. If it still does this, I would be interested in
finding out where the probe for temperature sensing is located.
It might just be too far away from the thermostat, and too
close to the hot air vents. This unit has a setting for
temperature offset for RV's where this is an issue. If the
furnace shuts off 5 degrees before desired temp, you adjust the
offset by this amount.
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:48:15 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 9:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
I may have alluded to this before, but last time we camped on
a flatspot in our Lance 1475 the night temps dropped into the
40s or 50s and I had trouble running the furnace on 12 V.
It's a Truma Combi Eco Plus; the gas would fire up and the fan
would run for a minute or two, then stop--without having
brought the inside temp up to the thermostat setting.
You may recall that this unit was replaced under warranty
earlier this year (due to E6H error codes suggesting
combustion air motor problems). But this more recent behavior
doesn't seem connected.
As near as I can tell, the unit should run on propane with 12
V power for the fan. The battery was at full 100 Ah capacity,
so it wasn't a low charge state. I'm wondering if being LI is
a factor, for example is it possible there is internal
resistance in the battery that limits the current? Seems
crazy, but I'm not sure what else to think. FWIW, it's a Li
Time battery (from China), and has worked as expected or even
better.
If the furnace actually operates as it should when it is
running, I would first think about the thermostat. For
example, I would try and raise it higher to see if it runs
longer and then shuts off still without reaching desired
temperature. If it still does this, I would be interested in
finding out where the probe for temperature sensing is located.
It might just be too far away from the thermostat, and too
close to the hot air vents. This unit has a setting for
temperature offset for RV's where this is an issue. If the
furnace shuts off 5 degrees before desired temp, you adjust the
offset by this amount.
Thanks for the thoughts, but I'm a bit skeptical of that
possibility because it ran fine once I fired up the generator.
My bad for not mentioning that bit.
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:48:15 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 9:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
I may have alluded to this before, but last time we camped
on a flatspot in our Lance 1475 the night temps dropped into
the 40s or 50s and I had trouble running the furnace on 12
V. It's a Truma Combi Eco Plus; the gas would fire up and
the fan would run for a minute or two, then stop--without
having brought the inside temp up to the thermostat setting.
If the furnace actually operates as it should when it is
running, I would first think about the thermostat...
Thanks for the thoughts, but I'm a bit skeptical of that
possibility because it ran fine once I fired up the generator.
My bad for not mentioning that bit.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I know
it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way to know
for sure what's going on I think would be to put a voltage
tester on the battery when the heater is on and see how low it
goes when the fan kicks in.
110 AC is definitely preferable for the unit, but it should go
at least one night I would think an the battery and you'd
charge it up the next day.
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:47 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 11:48:15 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 9:19 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
I may have alluded to this before, but last time we camped
on a flatspot in our Lance 1475 the night temps dropped into
the 40s or 50s and I had trouble running the furnace on 12
V. It's a Truma Combi Eco Plus; the gas would fire up and
the fan would run for a minute or two, then stop--without
having brought the inside temp up to the thermostat setting.
If the furnace actually operates as it should when it is
running, I would first think about the thermostat...
Thanks for the thoughts, but I'm a bit skeptical of that
possibility because it ran fine once I fired up the generator.
My bad for not mentioning that bit.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I know
it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way to know
for sure what's going on I think would be to put a voltage
tester on the battery when the heater is on and see how low it
goes when the fan kicks in.
Okay, that should be within my rudimentary skillset. Is it as
simple as putting the multimeter probes on each battery post while
starting up the furnace?
FWIW, the battery also has a nice bluetooth interface that gives a
lot of detail about its state (including voltage). Don't recall
seeing the voltage drop much from the nominal 12.8 V, but then I
haven't really watched it much.
110 AC is definitely preferable for the unit, but it should go
at least one night I would think an the battery and you'd
charge it up the next day.
Yeah, that was my thinking too. I'd like to be able to camp in
remote National Forest areas in the Rockies, but if the furnace
won't run on 12 V that may be a non starter.
On 11/19/2024 4:15 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:47 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
Thanks for the thoughts, but I'm a bit skeptical of that
possibility because it
[the Truma Combi Eco Plus ran only for 1-2 minutes on 12 V
but] ran fine once I fired up the generator.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I
know it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way
to know for sure what's going on I think would be to put a
voltage tester on the battery when the heater is on and see
how low it goes when the fan kicks in.
Okay, that should be within my rudimentary skillset. Is it as
simple as putting the multimeter probes on each battery post
while starting up the furnace?
FWIW, the battery also has a nice bluetooth interface that
gives a lot of detail about its state (including voltage).
Don't recall seeing the voltage drop much from the nominal
12.8 V, but then I haven't really watched it much.
My first question is in making sure your charging system
settings are actually set to charge a lithium battery.
Lithium batteries have a very flat discharge voltage line. At
12.8 volts, you could be at the very end of the effective
available power if it is charging the battery like an AGM
battery. This page gives a little cell voltage info.
<https://www.renogy.com/blog/lifepo4-voltage-chart>
I don't have lithiums, but I think you can use a combination of
your app and a voltage tester to see what the voltage is. The
problem is you have no idea where on the line you are at before
it has the big drop off. Your charging system has to know they
are lithium batteries to properly give them a full charge.
110 AC is definitely preferable for the unit, but it should
go at least one night I would think an the battery and
you'd charge it up the next day.
Yeah, that was my thinking too. I'd like to be able to camp
in remote National Forest areas in the Rockies, but if the
furnace won't run on 12 V that may be a non starter.
It will do it, you just have to pin down what the issue is with
your battery system. I was charging mine at the wrong setting
for a short time. My wet batteries won't exhibit the problems
yours can and I didn't hurt it. Fortunately, if you are not
charging yours properly in most cases it can be fixed.
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:41:32 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 4:15 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:47 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
[the Truma Combi Eco Plus ran only for 1-2 minutes on 12 V
but] ran fine once I fired up the generator.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I
know it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way
to know for sure what's going on I think would be to put
a voltage tester on the battery when the heater is on and
see how low it goes when the fan kicks in.
Okay, that should be within my rudimentary skillset. Is it
as simple as putting the multimeter probes on each battery
post while starting up the furnace?
Lithium batteries have a very flat discharge voltage line.
At 12.8 volts, you could be at the very end of the effective
available power if it is charging the battery like an AGM
battery. This page gives a little cell voltage info.
<https://www.renogy.com/blog/lifepo4-voltage-chart>
Yeah, I just used "12.8" as the nominal output per the manual.
It also shows the voltage being higher until it's discharged
quite a lot.
Pretty sure I'm charging it properly, and somewhat sure it was
still reasonably fully charged (maybe 70%?) when the problem
occurred. But it may have been lower, I suppose.
We have cold weather coming in, so I will be making my way out
to the unit in storage to test out the battery voltage and
whether it will run the furnace fan as it should.
On 11/30/2024 8:41 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, I was able to get out to the trailer this afternoon.
It was about 29 F. I installed the battery and put a
multimeter across the two terminals. It read 13.28/13.29 V,
same as the app (which showed 13.3 V and 99% SOC).
After turning on at the disconnect and opening the propane
tank, I fired up the Truma on gas only and heat only (no water
heater because it's drained) and the fan on eco. It fired up
and ran fine for ~6 minutes with hot air starting to come out
of the nearest vents. The multimeter showed ~13.21 V, and the
app also showed 13.2 V with an estimated 40 hours of run time.
I then changed the fan speed to high, and ran it out to half
an hour without it shutting off. The temp in the trailer had
risen from 29 to 40 F by then and the multimeter still showed
~13.2 V.
So it seems all is well, and I should get a night's worth of
heating from the battery. The only other thing that would be
running would be the fridge, and that would be on propane and
drawing electricity only for the controls. So not much, I
think.
Not sure why the furnace was shutting down after a couple of
minutes back in early October. It's possible the battery was
too, low, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Maybe more likely
is the air temp in the unit was not enough lower than what I'd
set the thermostat at for it to stay on. That also seems
unlikely, though I don't recall exactly what the temps (in
trailer and set point) were.
Guess I'll leave it be and hope all is fine next time we need
it.
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and the
batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these lithium
batteries is in actually getting them fully charged. At least
now you know it does all work, and if needed you could always
pull out the generator if you're freezing.
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:55:44 -0000 (UTC),
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:41:32 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 4:15 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:47 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
[the Truma Combi Eco Plus ran only for 1-2 minutes on 12 V
but] ran fine once I fired up the generator.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I
know it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way
to know for sure what's going on I think would be to put
a voltage tester on the battery when the heater is on and
see how low it goes when the fan kicks in.
Okay, that should be within my rudimentary skillset. Is it
as simple as putting the multimeter probes on each battery
post while starting up the furnace?
Lithium batteries have a very flat discharge voltage line.
At 12.8 volts, you could be at the very end of the effective
available power if it is charging the battery like an AGM
battery. This page gives a little cell voltage info.
<https://www.renogy.com/blog/lifepo4-voltage-chart>
Yeah, I just used "12.8" as the nominal output per the manual.
It also shows the voltage being higher until it's discharged
quite a lot.
Pretty sure I'm charging it properly, and somewhat sure it was
still reasonably fully charged (maybe 70%?) when the problem
occurred. But it may have been lower, I suppose.
We have cold weather coming in, so I will be making my way out
to the unit in storage to test out the battery voltage and
whether it will run the furnace fan as it should.
Okay, I was able to get out to the trailer this afternoon. It was
about 29 F. I installed the battery and put a multimeter across
the two terminals. It read 13.28/13.29 V, same as the app (which
showed 13.3 V and 99% SOC).
After turning on at the disconnect and opening the propane tank, I
fired up the Truma on gas only and heat only (no water heater
because it's drained) and the fan on eco. It fired up and ran
fine for ~6 minutes with hot air starting to come out of the
nearest vents. The multimeter showed ~13.21 V, and the app also
showed 13.2 V with an estimated 40 hours of run time.
I then changed the fan speed to high, and ran it out to half an
hour without it shutting off. The temp in the trailer had risen
from 29 to 40 F by then and the multimeter still showed ~13.2 V.
So it seems all is well, and I should get a night's worth of
heating from the battery. The only other thing that would be
running would be the fridge, and that would be on propane and
drawing electricity only for the controls. So not much, I think.
Not sure why the furnace was shutting down after a couple of
minutes back in early October. It's possible the battery was too,
low, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Maybe more likely is the
air temp in the unit was not enough lower than what I'd set the
thermostat at for it to stay on. That also seems unlikely, though
I don't recall exactly what the temps (in trailer and set point)
were.
Guess I'll leave it be and hope all is fine next time we need it.
On 11/30/2024 8:41 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 15:55:44 -0000 (UTC),
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 17:41:32 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 4:15 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2024 12:05:47 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 11/19/2024 11:53 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
[the Truma Combi Eco Plus ran only for 1-2 minutes on 12 V
but] ran fine once I fired up the generator.
The unit shuts off when voltage gets below 11 volts. I
know it's supposed to be a good battery, but the only way
to know for sure what's going on I think would be to put
a voltage tester on the battery when the heater is on and
see how low it goes when the fan kicks in.
Okay, that should be within my rudimentary skillset. Is it
as simple as putting the multimeter probes on each battery
post while starting up the furnace?
Lithium batteries have a very flat discharge voltage line.
At 12.8 volts, you could be at the very end of the effective
available power if it is charging the battery like an AGM
battery. This page gives a little cell voltage info.
<https://www.renogy.com/blog/lifepo4-voltage-chart>
Yeah, I just used "12.8" as the nominal output per the manual.
It also shows the voltage being higher until it's discharged
quite a lot.
Pretty sure I'm charging it properly, and somewhat sure it was
still reasonably fully charged (maybe 70%?) when the problem
occurred. But it may have been lower, I suppose.
We have cold weather coming in, so I will be making my way out
to the unit in storage to test out the battery voltage and
whether it will run the furnace fan as it should.
Okay, I was able to get out to the trailer this afternoon. It was
about 29 F. I installed the battery and put a multimeter across
the two terminals. It read 13.28/13.29 V, same as the app (which
showed 13.3 V and 99% SOC).
After turning on at the disconnect and opening the propane tank, I
fired up the Truma on gas only and heat only (no water heater
because it's drained) and the fan on eco. It fired up and ran
fine for ~6 minutes with hot air starting to come out of the
nearest vents. The multimeter showed ~13.21 V, and the app also
showed 13.2 V with an estimated 40 hours of run time.
I then changed the fan speed to high, and ran it out to half an
hour without it shutting off. The temp in the trailer had risen
from 29 to 40 F by then and the multimeter still showed ~13.2 V.
So it seems all is well, and I should get a night's worth of
heating from the battery. The only other thing that would be
running would be the fridge, and that would be on propane and
drawing electricity only for the controls. So not much, I think.
Not sure why the furnace was shutting down after a couple of
minutes back in early October. It's possible the battery was too,
low, but I'm pretty skeptical of that. Maybe more likely is the
air temp in the unit was not enough lower than what I'd set the
thermostat at for it to stay on. That also seems unlikely, though
I don't recall exactly what the temps (in trailer and set point)
were.
Guess I'll leave it be and hope all is fine next time we need it.
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and the batteries.
Nice job. It looks like the key to these lithium batteries is in
actually getting them fully charged. At least now you know it does all
work, and if needed you could always pull out the generator if you're freezing.
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and the
batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these lithium
batteries is in actually getting them fully charged. At least
now you know it does all work, and if needed you could always
pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and the
batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these lithium
batteries is in actually getting them fully charged. At least
now you know it does all work, and if needed you could always
pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
To be honest, I really like your posts. Always interesting and
something we all have an interest in either knowing or learning about.
I was surprised at the off-topic tendency of this group when I first
came here, and some research showed there has been a long history of
it here. But most of those who read this group probably come here for
the RV stuff, I know I did.
Having a little withdrawal now from the RV scene with the new rig
sitting about 15 feet away outside the wall of the garage and the TOAD
setup all ready to go. I had hoped to travel this winter some, but it looks like I'll be getting a shoulder replacement and just need to get
that done.
Anything RV related is good to read now. Keeps me in the
game.
sticks wrote:
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and
the batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these
lithium batteries is in actually getting them fully charged.
At least now you know it does all work, and if needed you
could always pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
To be honest, I really like your posts. Always interesting
and something we all have an interest in either knowing or
learning about. I was surprised at the off-topic tendency of
this group when I first came here, and some research showed
there has been a long history of it here. But most of those
who read this group probably come here for the RV stuff, I
know I did.
Having a little withdrawal now from the RV scene with the new
rig sitting about 15 feet away outside the wall of the garage
and the TOAD setup all ready to go. I had hoped to travel
this winter some, but it looks like I'll be getting a shoulder
replacement and just need to get that done.
Good luck to you..........and make sure the surgeon is not a
Millennial and the replacement parts are not from China.
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:33:11 -0500,
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and
the batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these
lithium batteries is in actually getting them fully charged.
At least now you know it does all work, and if needed you
could always pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
To be honest, I really like your posts. Always interesting
and something we all have an interest in either knowing or
learning about. I was surprised at the off-topic tendency of
this group when I first came here, and some research showed
there has been a long history of it here. But most of those
who read this group probably come here for the RV stuff, I
know I did.
Thanks for the kind words, that's really thoughtful. I've been on
Usenet for three decades, but only came to this newsgroup a few
years ago--when I started getting serious about a trailer.
Since I began, Many groups have died, some have moved (at least in
part) to Facebook, and a few are still active. That last category
is mostly oldtimers who know each other and hang around as much
out of habit as anything else. They tend to also have a lot of
off topic banter, so this group isn't unique in that respect.
Having a little withdrawal now from the RV scene with the new
rig sitting about 15 feet away outside the wall of the garage
and the TOAD setup all ready to go. I had hoped to travel
this winter some, but it looks like I'll be getting a shoulder
replacement and just need to get that done.
Good luck to you..........and make sure the surgeon is not a
Millennial and the replacement parts are not from China.
Gotta be frustrating to put the new adventures on hold. I'll add
my best wishes for a successful outcome!
On 12/2/2024 5:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:33:11 -0500,
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
  sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
 Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and
the batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these
lithium batteries is in actually getting them fully charged.
At least now you know it does all work, and if needed you
could always pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
To be honest, I really like your posts. Always interesting
and something we all have an interest in either knowing or
learning about. I was surprised at the off-topic tendency of
this group when I first came here, and some research showed
there has been a long history of it here. But most of those
who read this group probably come here for the RV stuff, I
know I did.
Thanks for the kind words, that's really thoughtful. I've been on
Usenet for three decades, but only came to this newsgroup a few
years ago--when I started getting serious about a trailer.
Since I began, Many groups have died, some have moved (at least in
part) to Facebook, and a few are still active. That last category
is mostly oldtimers who know each other and hang around as much
out of habit as anything else. They tend to also have a lot of
off topic banter, so this group isn't unique in that respect.
I still think it is the perfect medium for discussions. You don't
like someone, you don't have to even see their posts. You get tired
of a particular thread, you just ignore it. You can read either
threaded or unthreaded, with threads either collapsed or expanded.
You can easily find what interests you and not have to wade through
lots of useless crap like you do on the web based social networks.
I've never been a facebook member, and never will be. Usenet works
great for me.
Having a little withdrawal now from the RV scene with the new
rig sitting about 15 feet away outside the wall of the garage
and the TOAD setup all ready to go. I had hoped to travel
this winter some, but it looks like I'll be getting a shoulder
replacement and just need to get that done.
Good luck to you..........and make sure the surgeon is not a
Millennial and the replacement parts are not from China.
Gotta be frustrating to put the new adventures on hold. I'll add
my best wishes for a successful outcome!
Thanks to both of you for the kind words. Unfortunately, this one has
gone too far and I have to do a reverse shoulder. At this point I
don't even care. Just gotta move forward.
Thanks to both of you for the kind words. Unfortunately, this one has
gone too far and I have to do a reverse shoulder. At this point I
don't even care. Just gotta move forward.
Reverse shoulder. Does that mean you'll be able to scratch your back as easily as you could scratch your chest?
On 12/4/2024 11:31 AM, bfh wrote:
Thanks to both of you for the kind words. Unfortunately, this one
has gone too far and I have to do a reverse shoulder. At this
point I don't even care. Just gotta move forward.
Reverse shoulder. Does that mean you'll be able to scratch your back
as easily as you could scratch your chest?
My doctor refers to the traditional as the "young mans shoulder" and I
was able to do that last year on the right side. He calls a reverse
an "old mans shoulder."
If it's your body and you want as close to original function as you
had before you want the traditional if at all possible. The
traditional replaces the existing ball on the arm portion of your
shoulder with a ball and places a cup in the shoulder socket portion
just like you have now.
A reverse procedure places the ball portion on the shoulder part and
the cup on the arm part. The reverse of what you originally had. You
get less movement, though with some hard work you can get close. The
rehab is actually much easier doing a reverse, and they don't even
care if you do rehab. I will do it to get as much motion as possible,
but the important thing is the pain is gone immediately.
sticks wrote:
On 12/2/2024 5:59 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Mon, 2 Dec 2024 17:33:11 -0500,
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
Thanks for the kind words, that's really thoughtful. I've
been on Usenet for...
I still think it is the perfect medium for discussions. You
don't like someone, you don't have to even see their posts.
You get tired of a particular thread, you just ignore it.
You can read either threaded or unthreaded, with threads
either collapsed or expanded. You can easily find what
interests you and not have to wade through lots of useless
crap like you do on the web based social networks. I've never
been a facebook member, and never will be. Usenet works great
for me.
...I had hoped to travel this winter some, but it
looks like I'll be getting a shoulder replacement and just
need to get that done.
Good luck to you..........and make sure the surgeon is not a
Millennial and the replacement parts are not from China.
Gotta be frustrating to put the new adventures on hold.
I'll add my best wishes for a successful outcome!
Thanks to both of you for the kind words. Unfortunately, this
one has gone too far and I have to do a reverse shoulder. At
this point I don't even care. Just gotta move forward.
Reverse shoulder. Does that mean you'll be able to scratch your
back as easily as you could scratch your chest?
sticks wrote:
On 12/1/2024 10:42 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 1 Dec 2024 10:24:27 -0600,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
Looks like you're getting more familiar with the app and the
batteries. Nice job. It looks like the key to these lithium
batteries is in actually getting them fully charged. At least
now you know it does all work, and if needed you could always
pull out the generator if you're freezing.
Thanks for the support, sticks/wolverine01--much appreciated!
To be honest, I really like your posts. Always interesting and
something we all have an interest in either knowing or learning about.
I was surprised at the off-topic tendency of this group when I first
came here, and some research showed there has been a long history of
it here. But most of those who read this group probably come here for
the RV stuff, I know I did.
Having a little withdrawal now from the RV scene with the new rig
sitting about 15 feet away outside the wall of the garage and the TOAD
setup all ready to go. I had hoped to travel this winter some, but it
looks like I'll be getting a shoulder replacement and just need to get
that done.
Good luck to you..........and make sure the surgeon is not a
Millennial and the replacement parts are not from China.
Anything RV related is good to read now. Keeps me in the
game.
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