Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
In article <slrnvsc091.il9.theise@panix2.panix.com>,
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a >destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana,
coming in from the north. Any high level tips on how to
approach this? Neither of us have been to Yellowstone, so that
would be a great destination. On the other hand, I'm starting
to wonder if it might be biting off too much on top of the
other two destinations.
Yellowstone is .. huge. But if you're going to Jackson from
Devils Tower, you might want to take the east entrance via
Cody. Jackson is straight south of Yellowstone, and actually,
if you're going to Jackson from Devils Tower anyway, the route
through Yellowstone seems best. (Especially if you have a
national parks pass and don't need to pay entrance fees. I got
the geezer pass as soon as I qualified.)
Even a quickie trip through Yellowstone is worthwhile. Check
out a few sights that are close to your route, and don't expect
to see everything.
Like I said ... it's huge. Last trip, we camped at Fishing
Bridge, which is pretty central, and spent too much time
driving to places. Next trip, I plan to make reservations a
few days at several campgrounds near attractions to make better
use of our time.
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park with
hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
On 2025-03-03 19:21:05 +0000, Ted Heise said:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Depending on the snow, the last roads in Yellowstone may only be
opening in late May. I've seen years when the pass between Old Faithful
and the Lake didn't open until early June.
Check the Park web-site, assuming the staff that maintains that hasn't
been laid off
In article <slrnvsc091.il9.theise@panix2.panix.com>,
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
Yellowstone is .. huge. But if you're going to Jackson
from Devils Tower, you might want to take the east entrance
via Cody. Jackson is straight south of Yellowstone, and
actually, if you're going to Jackson from Devils Tower anyway,
the route through Yellowstone seems best. (Especially if you
have a national parks pass and don't need to pay entrance fees.
I got the geezer pass as soon as I qualified.)
Even a quickie trip through Yellowstone is worthwhile. Check
out a few sights that are close to your route, and don't expect
to see everything.
Like I said ... it's huge. Last trip, we camped at Fishing
Bridge, which is pretty central, and spent too much time
driving to places. Next trip, I plan to make reservations
a few days at several campgrounds near attractions to make
better use of our time.
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
On 2025-03-03 19:21:05 +0000, Ted Heise said:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as
a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then
Montana, coming in from the north. Any high level tips on how
to approach this? Neither of us have been to Yellowstone, so
that would be a great destination. On the other hand, I'm
starting to wonder if it might be biting off too much on top
of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Depending on the snow, the last roads in Yellowstone may only
be opening in late May. I've seen years when the pass between
Old Faithful and the Lake didn't open until early June. Check
the Park web-site, assuming the staff that maintains that
hasn't been laid off
Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as
a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then
Montana, coming in from the north. Any high level tips on how
to approach this? Neither of us have been to Yellowstone, so
that would be a great destination. On the other hand, I'm
starting to wonder if it might be biting off too much on top
of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Depends I'd say! Is the point to explore the area and leave
with an actual feel for it or just to say 'saw that'? I prefer
stress free, no rush trips. I'd put Yellowstone on it's own
trip rather than stress about the driving time or feeling
pressed to drive more than you want.
On 2025-03-04 19:04:28 +0000, Ted Heise said:
On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 07:50:37 -0800,
Ralph E Lindberg <email@domain.com> wrote:
On 2025-03-03 19:21:05 +0000, Ted Heise said:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower
as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then
Montana, coming in from the north. Any high level tips on
how to approach this? Neither of us have been to
Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination. On the
other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting off
too much on top of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like
driving much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Depending on the snow, the last roads in Yellowstone may only
be opening in late May. I've seen years when the pass between
Old Faithful and the Lake didn't open until early June. Check
the Park web-site, assuming the staff that maintains that
hasn't been laid off
I wondered about snow, seeing the terrain from mapping.
Thanks for the advice!
Oh you will see snow. There is snow in the passes unti
(usually) July. I've had a snow ball fight, with fresh snow, in
early July there
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
Has Fishing Bridge been modernized yet? The old set up wasn’t good for much >more than a Casita <grin>
Really, really helpful, thank you so much.
By the way, it seems I've seen you elsewhere on Usenet, Mike.
Have you been on aue, or rbr? Maybe I've seen your name on Nyx?
In article <slrnvse3bp.esf.theise@panix2.panix.com>,
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
Really, really helpful, thank you so much.
You're welcome.
By the way, it seems I've seen you elsewhere on Usenet, Mike.
Have you been on aue, or rbr? Maybe I've seen your name on
Nyx?
I've never been on Nyx that I can recall. If I ever were, it's
have to have been before I started using LastPass for my
passwords, which was a couple of years before LogMeIn bought
it.
On Usenet, other than here, I'm mostly just on the science
fiction groups, and some science related ones (which are mostly
useless, alas, flooded with quackpottery) though years ago I
used to be on a few others.
...I'm not sure what aue or rbr are.
Depending on the snow, the last roads in Yellowstone may only be
opening in late May. I've seen years when the pass between Old Faithful
and the Lake didn't open until early June.
On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 19:36:55 -0000 (UTC),
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
...I'm not sure what aue or rbr are.
aue - alt.usage.english
rbr = rec.bicycles.racing
In article <vq7ch4$1v9to$1@dont-email.me>,
George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
Has Fishing Bridge been modernized yet? The old set up wasn’t good for much
more than a Casita <grin>
We were there in a Jayco 29MV, which is 32 feet long,
and it was fine. At least, the spot we were in was.
In article <slrnvsc091.il9.theise@panix2.panix.com>,
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
Yellowstone is .. huge. But if you're going to Jackson
from Devils Tower, you might want to take the east entrance
via Cody. Jackson is straight south of Yellowstone, and
actually, if you're going to Jackson from Devils Tower anyway,
the route through Yellowstone seems best. (Especially if you
have a national parks pass and don't need to pay entrance fees.
I got the geezer pass as soon as I qualified.)
Even a quickie trip through Yellowstone is worthwhile. Check
out a few sights that are close to your route, and don't expect
to see everything.
Like I said ... it's huge. Last trip, we camped at Fishing
Bridge, which is pretty central, and spent too much time
driving to places. Next trip, I plan to make reservations
a few days at several campgrounds near attractions to make
better use of our time.
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
On 3/4/2025 12:05 AM, Mike Van Pelt wrote:
In article <slrnvsc091.il9.theise@panix2.panix.com>,
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
Yellowstone is .. huge. But if you're going to Jackson
from Devils Tower, you might want to take the east entrance
via Cody. Jackson is straight south of Yellowstone, and
actually, if you're going to Jackson from Devils Tower anyway,
the route through Yellowstone seems best. (Especially if you
have a national parks pass and don't need to pay entrance fees.
I got the geezer pass as soon as I qualified.)
Even a quickie trip through Yellowstone is worthwhile. Check
out a few sights that are close to your route, and don't expect
to see everything.
Like I said ... it's huge. Last trip, we camped at Fishing
Bridge, which is pretty central, and spent too much time
driving to places. Next trip, I plan to make reservations
a few days at several campgrounds near attractions to make
better use of our time.
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about getting
more water if you need it, without packing up and going somewhere. I
carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water capability. Do you go to a
gas station and try and find a hose to fill them up?
sticks wrote:
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about getting
more water if you need it, without packing up and going somewhere. I
carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water capability. Do you go to a
gas station and try and find a hose to fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van, and
back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall
somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up. Didn't
need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
On 3/13/2025 1:15 AM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and find a hose to
fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van,
and back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall
somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up.
Didn't need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
The RV has a 31 gallon fresh water tank and I can carry an extra 26 if needed. I was trying to figure out how long it would last off grid
and how to go about getting more. If it was just me, I could easily
go a week with this amount, but I'm not sure the wife even has a
conserve setting that works.
Heading out the beginning of April and staying at a place for 2 days, probably do a little scouting for a boondocking site. Might finish
off the trip staying somewhere a couple days, but not sure yet. Gonna
be checking out some of those spots you marked for sure.
sticks wrote:
On 3/13/2025 1:15 AM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and find a hose to
fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van,
and back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall
somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up.
Didn't need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
The RV has a 31 gallon fresh water tank and I can carry an extra 26 if
needed. I was trying to figure out how long it would last off grid
and how to go about getting more. If it was just me, I could easily
go a week with this amount, but I'm not sure the wife even has a
conserve setting that works.
Heading out the beginning of April and staying at a place for 2 days,
probably do a little scouting for a boondocking site. Might finish
off the trip staying somewhere a couple days, but not sure yet. Gonna
be checking out some of those spots you marked for sure.
Keep in mind that those spots are from the mid-oughts. Floods,
earthquakes, meteor strikes, haboobs, spacecraft crashes, unfettered development, and plain old dumbass vandalism may have changed them
somewhat. Once again, Google Sat and Street View are the adventurer's
friend. Wish I'd had it back then - I had to flatspot hunt with hunches.
Here's another map that might help you: https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1CzWGnKKSF4uH0uzUvTALb7a5txo&usp=sharing
It's BLM spots. Click on the icon for information about the campsite.
Again, they're about 20 years out of date.
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 3/13/2025 1:15 AM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and find a hose to
fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van,
and back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall
somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up.
Didn't need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
The RV has a 31 gallon fresh water tank and I can carry an extra 26 if
needed. I was trying to figure out how long it would last off grid
and how to go about getting more. If it was just me, I could easily
go a week with this amount, but I'm not sure the wife even has a
conserve setting that works.
Heading out the beginning of April and staying at a place for 2 days,
probably do a little scouting for a boondocking site. Might finish
off the trip staying somewhere a couple days, but not sure yet. Gonna >>> be checking out some of those spots you marked for sure.
Keep in mind that those spots are from the mid-oughts. Floods,
earthquakes, meteor strikes, haboobs, spacecraft crashes, unfettered
development, and plain old dumbass vandalism may have changed them
somewhat. Once again, Google Sat and Street View are the adventurer's
friend. Wish I'd had it back then - I had to flatspot hunt with hunches.
Here's another map that might help you:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?mid=1CzWGnKKSF4uH0uzUvTALb7a5txo&usp=sharing
It's BLM spots. Click on the icon for information about the campsite.
Again, they're about 20 years out of date.
Fresh water capacity won’t be your only issue. After you use that water you
have to have a place to put it.
George.Anthony wrote:
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:Hey, man. It's the desert. It can use whatever he's got.
sticks wrote:
On 3/13/2025 1:15 AM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and find a hose to
fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van,
and back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall
somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up.
Didn't need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
The RV has a 31 gallon fresh water tank and I can carry an extra 26 if >>>> needed. I was trying to figure out how long it would last off grid >>>> and how to go about getting more. If it was just me, I could easily >>>> go a week with this amount, but I'm not sure the wife even has a
conserve setting that works.
Heading out the beginning of April and staying at a place for 2 days,
probably do a little scouting for a boondocking site. Might finish >>>> off the trip staying somewhere a couple days, but not sure yet. Gonna >>>> be checking out some of those spots you marked for sure.
Keep in mind that those spots are from the mid-oughts. Floods,
earthquakes, meteor strikes, haboobs, spacecraft crashes, unfettered
development, and plain old dumbass vandalism may have changed them
somewhat. Once again, Google Sat and Street View are the adventurer's
friend. Wish I'd had it back then - I had to flatspot hunt with hunches. >>>
Here's another map that might help you:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?
mid=1CzWGnKKSF4uH0uzUvTALb7a5txo&usp=sharing
It's BLM spots. Click on the icon for information about the campsite.
Again, they're about 20 years out of date.
Fresh water capacity won’t be your only issue. After you use that
water you
have to have a place to put it.
On 3/14/2025 1:56 PM, bfh wrote:
George.Anthony wrote:
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:Hey, man. It's the desert. It can use whatever he's got.
sticks wrote:
On 3/13/2025 1:15 AM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
---snip---
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and >>>>>>> find a hose to
fill them up?
It's been almost 20 years since I carried 2 6-gal jugs in the van, >>>>>> and back then just about every gas station had a spigot on the wall >>>>>> somewhere. I just stuck them under the spigot and filled 'em up.
Didn't need a hose. How much do you carry in the RV tank?
The RV has a 31 gallon fresh water tank and I can carry an extra
26 if
needed. I was trying to figure out how long it would last off >>>>> grid
and how to go about getting more. If it was just me, I could >>>>> easily
go a week with this amount, but I'm not sure the wife even has a
conserve setting that works.
Heading out the beginning of April and staying at a place for 2
days,
probably do a little scouting for a boondocking site. Might >>>>> finish
off the trip staying somewhere a couple days, but not sure
yet. Gonna
be checking out some of those spots you marked for sure.
Keep in mind that those spots are from the mid-oughts. Floods,
earthquakes, meteor strikes, haboobs, spacecraft crashes, unfettered
development, and plain old dumbass vandalism may have changed them
somewhat. Once again, Google Sat and Street View are the adventurer's
friend. Wish I'd had it back then - I had to flatspot hunt with
hunches.
Here's another map that might help you:
https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?
mid=1CzWGnKKSF4uH0uzUvTALb7a5txo&usp=sharing
It's BLM spots. Click on the icon for information about the campsite.
Again, they're about 20 years out of date.
Fresh water capacity won’t be your only issue. After you use
that water you
have to have a place to put it.
That's kind of what I thought, to be honest. I doubt we would fill up
a 41 gallon black holding tank very quickly, and I don't think I would hesitate to drain the gray water tank if I had to.
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early June.
We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS reunion in
Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand Teton
and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't seem that
Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on Google maps all
seems to go around into Idaho and then Montana, coming in from the
north. Any high level tips on how to approach this? Neither of
us have been to Yellowstone, so that would be a great destination.
On the other hand, I'm starting to wonder if it might be biting
off too much on top of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
sticks wrote:
That's kind of what I thought, to be honest. I doubt we would fill up
a 41 gallon black holding tank very quickly, and I don't think I would
hesitate to drain the gray water tank if I had to.
Just drain it a little ways away from the flatspot. Don't want the next flatspotters to be tracking mud into their Prevost.
On 3/3/2025 1:21 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as
a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then
Montana, coming in from the north. Any high level tips on how
to approach this? Neither of us have been to Yellowstone, so
that would be a great destination. On the other hand, I'm
starting to wonder if it might be biting off too much on top
of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Just wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops and parking
when you're traveling between spots. Do you find campgrounds
to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can you sleep in
the lance without pulling slide outs?
The trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time in some detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each night. I'llWe probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like drivingJust wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops and parking
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
when you're traveling between spots. Do you find campgrounds
to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can you sleep in
the lance without pulling slide outs?
make sure every second or third has at least a dump station, if
not sewer hookups.
The first trip I was too optimistic in how much driving would be
tolerable each day. And I used Google maps estimated drive time
on interstates, not recognizing I'd not be driving near those
speeds. Now I look for the shortest mileage route and figure 60
miles max in an hour--probably topping out at five hours a day.
Makes it take longer to get to our destination, but it's less
wearing by far.
All else being equal, my preference would be just to drive and
then stop where we will--but I'm too chicken of ending up in an
area with no good (and available) options.
On 3/14/2025 8:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
The trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time in someWe probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like drivingJust wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops and parking
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
when you're traveling between spots. Do you find campgrounds
to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can you sleep in
the lance without pulling slide outs?
detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each night. I'll
make sure every second or third has at least a dump station, if
not sewer hookups.
That's I think how I proceed, just like when I'm working. Everything
gets planned out ahead of time so there aren't any big surprises. I
don't think my wife fully agrees with this, but I think part of the
problem is that for the last 30 years I've always done the legwork,
and she's reaped the benefits.
The first trip I was too optimistic in how much driving would be
tolerable each day. And I used Google maps estimated drive time
on interstates, not recognizing I'd not be driving near those
speeds. Now I look for the shortest mileage route and figure 60
miles max in an hour--probably topping out at five hours a day.
Makes it take longer to get to our destination, but it's less
wearing by far.
For the most part, especially if the miles are more than a couple
hundred, I think I'm closer to around 50 mph when you figure in
stopping and fueling times. I have two days planned at 600 miles, so
I know I'll be driving probably 12-14 hours those days. If I can't
make it, I'll pull over and get some sleep.
All else being equal, my preference would be just to drive and
then stop where we will--but I'm too chicken of ending up in an
area with no good (and available) options.
Can you just crash in the Lance without having to pull the slide outs?
sticks
sticks wrote:
On 3/14/2025 8:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
The trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time in someWe probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like drivingJust wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops and parking
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
when you're traveling between spots. Do you find campgrounds
to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can you sleep in
the lance without pulling slide outs?
detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each night. I'll
make sure every second or third has at least a dump station, if
not sewer hookups.
That's I think how I proceed, just like when I'm working. Everything
gets planned out ahead of time so there aren't any big surprises. I
don't think my wife fully agrees with this, but I think part of the
problem is that for the last 30 years I've always done the legwork,
and she's reaped the benefits.
Just my opinion, but strict planning sucks. Back when the wife and I travelcamped with a TT, we picked the places we wanted to see, and
then set out for the first one. The next day, we decided to stay or go
to the next one - or maybe even a different one before the next one. Reservations? I don't recall ever making one. Vacations are supposed
to be loose - not always worrying about hitting a schedule. Might see something along the way that's looks interesting, and a schedule or a reservation might make it difficult to check it out.
However comma then is not now, and it may be crowded out there these
days, and reservations may be the only way to keep you out of Walmart
parking lots. If that's true, you have my condolences. OTOH, even
today I can't imagine it would be too hard to find a flatspot out
there in the Southwest where you're usually on or near BLM land.
The first trip I was too optimistic in how much driving would be
tolerable each day. And I used Google maps estimated drive time
on interstates, not recognizing I'd not be driving near those
speeds. Now I look for the shortest mileage route and figure 60
miles max in an hour--probably topping out at five hours a day.
Makes it take longer to get to our destination, but it's less
wearing by far.
Too bad Google can't do what the old Delorme Street Atlas does - allow
you to enter your own average speeds for various types of roads. You
might be able to find a Delorme Street Atlas 2015+ CD online somewhere.
For the most part, especially if the miles are more than a couple
hundred, I think I'm closer to around 50 mph when you figure in
stopping and fueling times. I have two days planned at 600 miles, so
I know I'll be driving probably 12-14 hours those days. If I can't
make it, I'll pull over and get some sleep.
All else being equal, my preference would be just to drive and
then stop where we will--but I'm too chicken of ending up in an
area with no good (and available) options.
Then man up and do it. There are always available options - you just
might have to lower your standards a little every now and then.
Can you just crash in the Lance without having to pull the slide outs?
sticks
On Fri, 14 Mar 2025 19:13:53 -0500,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 3/3/2025 1:21 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
Okay, starting to plan a trip to Wyoming in late May, early
June. We'll be going out through Nebraska (wife has 50th HS
reunion in Nebraska City), and have agreed on Devils Tower as
a destination.
After a day or two there, I'm thinking to head over to Grand
Teton and spend a day or two there. On the map, it doesn't
seem that Yellowstone is all that far, but the routing on
Google maps all seems to go around into Idaho and then
Montana, coming in from the north. Any high level tips on how
to approach this? Neither of us have been to Yellowstone, so
that would be a great destination. On the other hand, I'm
starting to wonder if it might be biting off too much on top
of the other two destinations.
We probably can take 2-3 weeks total, and I don't like driving
much over 250 miles in a day with the trailer.
Just wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops and parking
when you're traveling between spots. Do you find campgrounds
to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can you sleep in
the lance without pulling slide outs?
The trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time in some detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each night. I'll
make sure every second or third has at least a dump station, if
not sewer hookups.
The first trip I was too optimistic in how much driving would be
tolerable each day. And I used Google maps estimated drive time
on interstates, not recognizing I'd not be driving near those
speeds. Now I look for the shortest mileage route and figure 60
miles max in an hour--probably topping out at five hours a day.
Makes it take longer to get to our destination, but it's less
wearing by far.
All else being equal, my preference would be just to drive and
then stop where we will--but I'm too chicken of ending up in an
area with no good (and available) options.
And no worries about thread drift, it's an accepted part of
Usenet. :)
Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
The first trip I was too optimistic in how much driving would
be tolerable each day. And I used Google maps estimated drive
time on interstates, not recognizing I'd not be driving near
those speeds. Now I look for the shortest mileage route and
figure 60 miles max in an hour--probably topping out at five
hours a day. Makes it take longer to get to our destination,
but it's less wearing by far.
On long trips with long days, I use 50 mph as an average. With
stops for fuel, restroom use and traffic issues it is usually
spot on. I seldom drive much over 60 mph, though.
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
Just wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops andThe trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time
parking when you're traveling between spots. Do you find
campgrounds to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can
you sleep in the lance without pulling slide outs?
in some detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each
night. I'll make sure every second or third has at least a
dump station, if not sewer hookups.
That's I think how I proceed, just like when I'm working.
Everything gets planned out ahead of time so there aren't any
big surprises.
Just my opinion, but strict planning sucks. Back when the wife
and I travelcamped with a TT, we picked the places we wanted
to see, and then set out for the first one. The next day, we
decided to stay or go to the next one - or maybe even a
different one before the next one. Reservations? I don't
recall ever making one. Vacations are supposed to be loose -
not always worrying about hitting a schedule. Might see
something along the way that's looks interesting, and a
schedule or a reservation might make it difficult to check it
out.
However comma then is not now, and it may be crowded out there
these days, and reservations may be the only way to keep you
out of Walmart parking lots. If that's true, you have my
condolences. OTOH, even today I can't imagine it would be too
hard to find a flatspot out there in the Southwest where
you're usually on or near BLM land.
Too bad Google can't do what the old Delorme Street Atlas does
- allow you to enter your own average speeds for various types
of roads. You might be able to find a Delorme Street Atlas
2015+ CD online somewhere.
All else being equal, my preference would be just to drive
and then stop where we will--but I'm too chicken of ending
up in an area with no good (and available) options.
Then man up and do it. There are always available options -
you just might have to lower your standards a little every now
and then.
Can you just crash in the Lance without having to pull the
slide outs?
Like you, I seldom plan beyond my first stop. These days with
Internet and cell phones, we plan on the road. If one
campground s full we call another. Very few overnights at
Walmart, etc. Hey, it’s part of the adventure.
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
In article <vq7ch4$1v9to$1@dont-email.me>,
George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
Mike Van Pelt <usenet@mikevanpelt.com> wrote:
(Though Fishing Bridge is the only campground in the park
with hookups; everywhere else is dry camping.)
Has Fishing Bridge been modernized yet? The old set up wasn’t
good for much more than a Casita <grin>
We were there in a Jayco 29MV, which is 32 feet long, and it
was fine. At least, the spot we were in was.
Goodto know. I might try to reserve a spot. Maybe I can get one
before the end of the decade.
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:13:57 -0000 (UTC),
George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
Just wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops andThe trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time
parking when you're traveling between spots. Do you find
campgrounds to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can
you sleep in the lance without pulling slide outs?
in some detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each
night. I'll make sure every second or third has at least a
dump station, if not sewer hookups.
That's I think how I proceed, just like when I'm working.
Everything gets planned out ahead of time so there aren't any
big surprises.
I'm glad to know it's not just me.
Just my opinion, but strict planning sucks. Back when the wife
and I travelcamped with a TT, we picked the places we wanted
to see, and then set out for the first one. The next day, we
decided to stay or go to the next one - or maybe even a
different one before the next one. Reservations? I don't
recall ever making one. Vacations are supposed to be loose -
not always worrying about hitting a schedule. Might see
something along the way that's looks interesting, and a
schedule or a reservation might make it difficult to check it
out.
Yeah, that would be mu ideal, guess I'm too concerned about
surprises to go that way though.
However comma then is not now, and it may be crowded out there
these days, and reservations may be the only way to keep you
out of Walmart parking lots. If that's true, you have my
condolences. OTOH, even today I can't imagine it would be too
hard to find a flatspot out there in the Southwest where
you're usually on or near BLM land.
Seems pretty crowded, but I'm still mostly a novice at this so I
could be looking at it too conservatively.
Can you just crash in the Lance without having to pull the
slide outs?
Yes, the center aisle between the kitchen counters and the bench
seat on the other side is too narrow for any use of the kitchen,
but it's definitely passable.
Like you, I seldom plan beyond my first stop. These days with
Internet and cell phones, we plan on the road. If one
campground s full we call another. Very few overnights at
Walmart, etc. Hey, it’s part of the adventure.
So this suggests my caution is excessive. Still, as I mentioned
above I would prefer to get a little more experience under my belt
before jumping into an unplanned trip. That said, coming back
from Utah last year I did plan a stop in Colorado the night
before. I'm thinking I might do the same for our whole trip back
from Wyoming in May/June. We'll see how it goes.
On 3/16/2025 10:07 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2025 13:13:57 -0000 (UTC),
George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
sticks wrote:
 Just wondering Ted what you do for overnight stops andThe trips we've done so far I've planned out ahead of time
parking when you're traveling between spots. Do you find
campgrounds to stay at, hotels, sleep in the Acadia, or can
you sleep in the lance without pulling slide outs?
in some detail--making reservations at campgrounds for each
night. I'll make sure every second or third has at least a
dump station, if not sewer hookups.
That's I think how I proceed, just like when I'm working.
Everything gets planned out ahead of time so there aren't any
big surprises.
I'm glad to know it's not just me.
I do think part of the difference between you and I, and guys like
Bill and George is experience. They certainly know the ropes better
than we do. But, I do think times have changed lately and things are
much more crowded than they were in the past.
Even now, with planning
an early April trip, Colorado sites I looked into don't open until
May, and there were very few spots available at those in Utah in
April. I feel much better knowing I actually have a place to set up
when I get there.
Just my opinion, but strict planning sucks. Back when the wife
and I travelcamped with a TT, we picked the places we wanted
to see, and then set out for the first one. The next day, we
decided to stay or go to the next one - or maybe even a
different one before the next one. Reservations? I don't
recall ever making one. Vacations are supposed to be loose -
not always worrying about hitting a schedule. Might see
something along the way that's looks interesting, and a
schedule or a reservation might make it difficult to check it
out.
Yeah, that would be mu ideal, guess I'm too concerned about
surprises to go that way though.
I used to have no problem going cross country on a motorcycle without
and plans, but this just seems different. There are way fewer spots
to park an RV than there are rooms in hotels.
However comma then is not now, and it may be crowded out there
these days, and reservations may be the only way to keep you
out of Walmart parking lots. If that's true, you have my
condolences. OTOH, even today I can't imagine it would be too
hard to find a flatspot out there in the Southwest where
you're usually on or near BLM land.
Seems pretty crowded, but I'm still mostly a novice at this so I
could be looking at it too conservatively.
I have decided I will be looking at flat spotters during our trip, but
I won't be doing it for a couple reasons. First, I have no idea if I
can keep my fridge running without shore power.
The book says not to
do it for very long as it will quickly deplete the batteries. Plus,
it was 19F this morning where we will be in 2 weeks, so we also have
to run the furnace fan off DC. Since they frown on running generators during the evening hours, this bothers me. I don't want to freeze.
will be able to find out what is possible with the setup I have now on
the trip out, as we are staying 2 nights in parking lots without
service. If I have to I can start up the generator I suppose, and see
if the cops come and tell me I can't do that.
I will eventually like to get another 250 watts of solar panels on the
roof and switch my wet batteries for lithiums. First, I want to see
how long these last.
Second, I have to admit I have serious concerns about the security of
the vehicle while we are away. No one will be sticking around our
site and we will be gone most of the day. I don't want to come back
to a vandalized RV. Staying in a campground at night might not be as
nice as being out alone in the wilderness, but the security of it for
now tips the scales.
---snip---
Can you just crash in the Lance without having to pull the
slide outs?
Yes, the center aisle between the kitchen counters and the bench
seat on the other side is too narrow for any use of the kitchen,
but it's definitely passable.
Just wondering about this for parking lot stays like I am doing. They
won't allow you to open your slide outs, but we can turn the furnace
on and have spots to sleep without doing so. BTW, I think the Walmart option is not as good as it used to be. The ones I called said no,
and I saw many people saying the same thing. We got approval from a
Bass Pro, and a Cabelas. They were nice and very helpful. RVrs buy
stuff from them, so it makes sense.
Like you, I seldom plan beyond my first stop. These days with
Internet and cell phones, we plan on the road. If one
campground s full we call another. Very few overnights at
Walmart, etc. Hey, it’s part of the adventure.
So this suggests my caution is excessive. Still, as I mentioned
above I would prefer to get a little more experience under my belt
before jumping into an unplanned trip. That said, coming back
from Utah last year I did plan a stop in Colorado the night
before. I'm thinking I might do the same for our whole trip back
from Wyoming in May/June. We'll see how it goes.
Definitely easier once it warms up, and no problem for me if it is
just overnight and not leaving the rig there alone. As it is, don't
let the old timers get ya. They will have their fun with us
greenhorns. I certainly do appreciate their helpful advise!
sticks
sticks wrote:
On 3/16/2025 10:07 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
I do think part of the difference between you and I, and guys like
Bill and George is experience. They certainly know the ropes better
than we do. But, I do think times have changed lately and things are
much more crowded than they were in the past.
Unfortunately, you're most likely right about that. Maybe the epidemic
of Covid Campers will eventually die down, and going camping will be
camping again - even in campgrounds.
I have decided I will be looking at flat spotters during our trip, but
I won't be doing it for a couple reasons. First, I have no idea if I
can keep my fridge running without shore power.
It doesn't run on propane?
The book says not to do it for very long as it will quickly deplete
the batteries. Plus, it was 19F this morning where we will be in 2
weeks, so we also have to run the furnace fan off DC. Since they
frown on running generators during the evening hours, this bothers
me. I don't want to freeze.
We had a furnace in our second TT, but rarely used it - used a catalytic heater that ran off 1-lb bottles. Rarely in the TT in the daytime, and
at night before bed, campfire, so even the catalytic didn't get used much.
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator heaters.
I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not in the unit and out
exploring during the day. This would be the second reason for
upgrading the array. Making sure to have enough power to keep the
furnace blower working overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping bags and
people are for. No offense, but you guys are not talking about "camping"
- you're talking about a fully equipped and mobile efficiency apartment
- which is not to say that that is bad. Everybody has their own
requirement for the level of comfort they want.
On 3/17/2025 9:29 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 3/16/2025 10:07 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
---snip---
I do think part of the difference between you and I, and guys like
Bill and George is experience. They certainly know the ropes
better than we do. But, I do think times have changed lately and
things are much more crowded than they were in the past.
Unfortunately, you're most likely right about that. Maybe the
epidemic of Covid Campers will eventually die down, and going
camping will be camping again - even in campgrounds.
I think the one reality that may help is that once people realize how
much this costs, they will tire of the expense. I think as Ted and I
are both finding out, it takes time to figure out all the capabilities
of your unit, money to keep it all working and upgrade to what you
really need, and is simply not as easy as jumping on a plane to go
stay in a hotel somewhere. You kind of have to want to be out there
to really enjoy this stuff. I think you're right that the covid
experience and the lockdowns contributed to many people trying to get
to "nature" for their sanity.
---snip---
I have decided I will be looking at flat spotters during our trip,
but I won't be doing it for a couple reasons. First, I have no
idea if I can keep my fridge running without shore power.
It doesn't run on propane?
No. It runs only on DC. This is kept going by the solar array,
shoreline power and the converter, alternator charging while driving,
or use of the Onan generator and the converter. This would be the
main reason I would upgrade my array and switch to lithium batteries.
The book says not to do it for very long as it will quickly deplete
the batteries. Plus, it was 19F this morning where we will be in
2 weeks, so we also have to run the furnace fan off DC. Since
they frown on running generators during the evening hours, this
bothers me. I don't want to freeze.
We had a furnace in our second TT, but rarely used it - used a
catalytic heater that ran off 1-lb bottles. Rarely in the TT in the
daytime, and at night before bed, campfire, so even the catalytic
didn't get used much.
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator heaters.
I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not in the unit and out exploring during the day. This would be the second reason for
upgrading the array. Making sure to have enough power to keep the
furnace blower working overnight.
On 3/19/2025 7:15 PM, bfh wrote:
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator heaters.
I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not in the unit and
out exploring during the day. This would be the second reason for
upgrading the array. Making sure to have enough power to keep the
furnace blower working overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping bags and
people are for. No offense, but you guys are not talking about
"camping" - you're talking about a fully equipped and mobile
efficiency apartment - which is not to say that that is bad.
Everybody has their own requirement for the level of comfort they want.
Probably. I call it RVing. I've done my share of sleeping in a bag
on the ground, pop up trailers you'd cook in on hot summer night, and
having to go days without being able to take a shower. I didn't buy
this thing for a competition on how "rough" I could get. I want to
NOT stay in hotels, be able to get close to the outdoors, have all the comforts in life I can now afford, and enjoy the time with my wife.
It was 19F again today where I will be shortly at 6,000 feet. Yeah, I
got no problem turning on the furnace. But, I will be leaving that
comfort to go into Bryce Canyon and do an 8 mile hike at 9,000 feet in elevation. When I'm done with that, which will probably be much
colder and snowy up there, I think I will be looking forward to a
heated coach, and a nice warm meal.
sticks wrote:
On 3/19/2025 7:15 PM, bfh wrote:
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator heaters.
I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not in the unit and
out exploring during the day. This would be the second reason for
upgrading the array. Making sure to have enough power to keep the
furnace blower working overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping bags and
people are for. No offense, but you guys are not talking about
"camping" - you're talking about a fully equipped and mobile
efficiency apartment - which is not to say that that is bad.
Everybody has their own requirement for the level of comfort they want.
Probably. I call it RVing. I've done my share of sleeping in a bag
on the ground, pop up trailers you'd cook in on hot summer night, and
having to go days without being able to take a shower. I didn't buy
this thing for a competition on how "rough" I could get. I want to
NOT stay in hotels, be able to get close to the outdoors, have all the
comforts in life I can now afford, and enjoy the time with my wife.
It was 19F again today where I will be shortly at 6,000 feet. Yeah, I
got no problem turning on the furnace. But, I will be leaving that
comfort to go into Bryce Canyon and do an 8 mile hike at 9,000 feet in
elevation. When I'm done with that, which will probably be much
colder and snowy up there, I think I will be looking forward to a
heated coach, and a nice warm meal.
Do you ever sit around a campfire?
On 3/19/2025 9:32 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 3/19/2025 7:15 PM, bfh wrote:
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator
heaters. I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not in the
unit and out exploring during the day. This would be the
second reason for upgrading the array. Making sure to have
enough power to keep the furnace blower working overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping bags
and people are for. No offense, but you guys are not talking about
"camping" - you're talking about a fully equipped and mobile
efficiency apartment - which is not to say that that is bad.
Everybody has their own requirement for the level of comfort they
want.
Probably. I call it RVing. I've done my share of sleeping in a
bag on the ground, pop up trailers you'd cook in on hot summer
night, and having to go days without being able to take a shower.Â
I didn't buy this thing for a competition on how "rough" I could
get. I want to NOT stay in hotels, be able to get close to the
outdoors, have all the comforts in life I can now afford, and enjoy
the time with my wife.
It was 19F again today where I will be shortly at 6,000 feet.Â
Yeah, I got no problem turning on the furnace. But, I will be
leaving that comfort to go into Bryce Canyon and do an 8 mile hike
at 9,000 feet in elevation. When I'm done with that, which will
probably be much colder and snowy up there, I think I will be
looking forward to a heated coach, and a nice warm meal.
Do you ever sit around a campfire?
Of course. If it were only me, I'd spend more time just hanging
around the campsite, drinking beer, and poking the fire. Last fall I
just made a couple small campfires in the evenings and mostly sat out
there by myself (which I'm good with too). I gotta break her in
slow.....
On 3/19/2025 9:32 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 3/19/2025 7:15 PM, bfh wrote:
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator
heaters. I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not
in the unit and out exploring during the day. This would
be the second reason for upgrading the array. Making sure
to have enough power to keep the furnace blower working
overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping
bags and people are for. No offense, but you guys are not
talking about "camping" - you're talking about a fully
equipped and mobile efficiency apartment - which is not to
say that that is bad. Everybody has their own requirement
for the level of comfort they want.
Probably. I call it RVing. I've done my share of sleeping
in a bag on the ground, pop up trailers you'd cook in on hot
summer night, and having to go days without being able to
take a shower. I didn't buy this thing for a competition on
how "rough" I could get. I want to NOT stay in hotels, be
able to get close to the outdoors, have all the comforts in
life I can now afford, and enjoy the time with my wife.
It was 19F again today where I will be shortly at 6,000 feet.
Yeah, I got no problem turning on the furnace. But, I will
be leaving that comfort to go into Bryce Canyon and do an 8
mile hike at 9,000 feet in elevation. When I'm done with
that, which will probably be much colder and snowy up there,
I think I will be looking forward to a heated coach, and a
nice warm meal.
Do you ever sit around a campfire?
Of course.
On Wed, 19 Mar 2025 22:48:42 -0500,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
On 3/19/2025 9:32 PM, bfh wrote:
sticks wrote:
On 3/19/2025 7:15 PM, bfh wrote:
I thought about getting one of those electric oil radiator
heaters. I'm sure we will turn off the heat when we're not
in the unit and out exploring during the day. This would
be the second reason for upgrading the array. Making sure
to have enough power to keep the furnace blower working
overnight.
We never heated the TT during bedtime.That's what sleeping
bags and people are for. No offense, but you guys are not
talking about "camping" - you're talking about a fully
equipped and mobile efficiency apartment - which is not to
say that that is bad. Everybody has their own requirement
for the level of comfort they want.
Probably. I call it RVing. I've done my share of sleeping
in a bag on the ground, pop up trailers you'd cook in on hot
summer night, and having to go days without being able to
take a shower. I didn't buy this thing for a competition on
how "rough" I could get. I want to NOT stay in hotels, be
able to get close to the outdoors, have all the comforts in
life I can now afford, and enjoy the time with my wife.
Well said, sticks. I've done my share of camping, including
backpacking the Grand Canyon and the Divide around Leadville.
Slept on the ground and roasted or shivered on a number of bike
rides across Nebraska--even a couple with my wife. Those days are
done.
I'd add that running the furnace gives me better confidence none
of the plumbing in the trailer will freeze. We had a water hose
(outside the trailer) freeze last year about this time in
Kodachrome. All that said, we'll run the furnace at a pretty low
setting when it's cold--probably low 60s.
It was 19F again today where I will be shortly at 6,000 feet.
Yeah, I got no problem turning on the furnace. But, I will
be leaving that comfort to go into Bryce Canyon and do an 8
mile hike at 9,000 feet in elevation. When I'm done with
that, which will probably be much colder and snowy up there,
I think I will be looking forward to a heated coach, and a
nice warm meal.
Do you ever sit around a campfire?
Of course.
We do too, probably close to half the nights we're out.
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about getting
more water if you need it, without packing up and going somewhere. I
carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water capability. Do you go to a gas >station and try and find a hose to fill them up?
In article <vqt463$2n6ob$2@dont-email.me>,
sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
So I've been wondering about dry camping, and how you go about
getting more water if you need it, without packing up and going
somewhere. I carry jugs for about 26 gallons of water
capability. Do you go to a gas station and try and find a hose
to fill them up?
We don't normally dry camp, generally just a night at a Harvest
Hosts or Walmart or such. I make sure there's enough water for
the night at the campground we're leaving.
If there's a faucet somewhere available, I've got a couple of 5
gallon buckets; the Jayco water system has a "suck water from a
bucket" setting.
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