• Wyoming Trip (May-Jun 2025)

    From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 17:00:47 2025
    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my memory now
    doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up a day or two
    each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west, made it into the northeast corner of
    Missouri. En route I kept noticing the Acadia reporting mileage
    in the 15-16 mpg range, but finally realized there were pretty
    good winds out of the east. Had not appreciated how much of a
    difference it might make.

    The commercial campground just outside of Kahoga, MO was pretty
    new, the sites were topped with fresh gravel but were pretty soft
    underneath. Just driving and backing the trailer on it made ruts.
    No bath house, but otherwise an okay campground.
    We had started relatively early in the day, so had some time to
    look around after arriving. We settled on a side trip to the
    Battle of Athens State Historic Site...

    https://mostateparks.com/park/battle-athens-state-historic-site

    It was not a big park, but had very interesting interpretive
    signs. Apparently this was the “northernmost battle fought west
    of the Mississippi” in the Civil War and “about 500 Union soldiers
    repelled nearly four times their number of pro-Southern State
    Guardsmen.” Interesting to see illustrations of the divisions
    across small areas-—and even within families.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jun 18 01:23:19 2025
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska
    City. We stayed at Victorian Acres, it was a somewhat traditional
    RV park, and pretty typical. Mrs. theise had her 50th high school
    reunion that evening, but we drove all over town ahead of time and
    I got to see places she had frequented as a youth.

    Though I’d been there as a kid, I enjoyed seeing Arbor
    Lodge—lovely old mansion that was the home of J Sterling Morton,
    the founder of Arbor Day. The reunion was nice enough. I knew
    maybe three people there, and two of them only just.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jun 18 00:50:24 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska
    City. We stayed at Victorian Acres, it was a somewhat traditional
    RV park, and pretty typical. Mrs. theise had her 50th high school
    reunion that evening, but we drove all over town ahead of time and
    I got to see places she had frequented as a youth.

    Though I’d been there as a kid, I enjoyed seeing Arbor Lodge—lovely old mansion that was the home of J Sterling Morton,
    the founder of Arbor Day. The reunion was nice enough. I knew
    maybe three people there, and two of them only just.

    Know any more now?

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jun 18 07:05:12 2025
    On 6/16/2025 12:00 PM, Ted Heise wrote:


    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my memory now
    doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up a day or two
    each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west, made it into the northeast corner of
    Missouri. En route I kept noticing the Acadia reporting mileage
    in the 15-16 mpg range, but finally realized there were pretty
    good winds out of the east. Had not appreciated how much of a
    difference it might make.


    Tailwinds are so much better driving our rig in it's amazing. Doesn't
    have to be directly from the rear, as just a little bit off the side
    stops the pushing of the RV and allows much faster travel. 15-16 is
    pretty good pulling that trailer.

    The commercial campground just outside of Kahoga, MO was pretty
    new, the sites were topped with fresh gravel but were pretty soft
    underneath. Just driving and backing the trailer on it made ruts.
    No bath house, but otherwise an okay campground.
    We had started relatively early in the day, so had some time to
    look around after arriving. We settled on a side trip to the
    Battle of Athens State Historic Site...

    https://mostateparks.com/park/battle-athens-state-historic-site

    It was not a big park, but had very interesting interpretive
    signs. Apparently this was the “northernmost battle fought west
    of the Mississippi” in the Civil War and “about 500 Union soldiers repelled nearly four times their number of pro-Southern State
    Guardsmen.” Interesting to see illustrations of the divisions
    across small areas-—and even within families.

    Nice way to end a travel day. Those sites are lost on the younger
    generation. I don't think they can actually even understand it
    happened. They've never seen the country in a real conflict and take it
    for granted it will never happen again. It's a shame.



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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to bfh on Thu Jun 19 00:50:20 2025
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 00:50:24 -0400,
    bfh <redydog@rye.net> wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska
    City. We stayed at Victorian Acres, it was a somewhat traditional
    RV park, and pretty typical. Mrs. theise had her 50th high school
    reunion that evening, but we drove all over town ahead of time and
    I got to see places she had frequented as a youth.

    Though I’d been there as a kid, I enjoyed seeing Arbor Lodge—lovely old mansion that was the home of J Sterling Morton,
    the founder of Arbor Day. The reunion was nice enough. I knew
    maybe three people there, and two of them only just.

    Know any more now?

    LOL. Funny guy.

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    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 00:49:57 2025
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 01:23:19 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage and
    spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    Despite living much of my life in Nebraska (plus spending a fair
    bit of time in the panhandle), I’d never been to Lake McConaughy
    before. The approach to and drive across the dam was most
    impressive, very scenic.

    We ended up at Prairie View RV Park on the north side of the lake.
    The campground itself was pretty basic. No office, and when I
    finally found a number to call (after driving around the
    campground for a while) they said to just pick any site. We could
    not see the lake from camp, which was disappointing.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 00:24:08 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 01:23:19 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage and
    spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    Never had one of those, but it sure sounds good.

    Despite living much of my life in Nebraska (plus spending a fair
    bit of time in the panhandle), I’d never been to Lake McConaughy before. The approach to and drive across the dam was most
    impressive, very scenic.

    We ended up at Prairie View RV Park on the north side of the lake.
    The campground itself was pretty basic. No office, and when I
    finally found a number to call (after driving around the
    campground for a while) they said to just pick any site. We could
    not see the lake from camp, which was disappointing.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 10:13:30 2025
    On 6/18/2025 7:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 01:23:19 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage and
    spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    Despite living much of my life in Nebraska (plus spending a fair
    bit of time in the panhandle), I’d never been to Lake McConaughy
    before. The approach to and drive across the dam was most
    impressive, very scenic.

    Nice looking area. Beautiful sandy beaches on that Lake. You do any
    fishing?


    We ended up at Prairie View RV Park on the north side of the lake.
    The campground itself was pretty basic. No office, and when I
    finally found a number to call (after driving around the
    campground for a while) they said to just pick any site. We could
    not see the lake from camp, which was disappointing.

    That's interesting. Did you otherwise have good services like water and electricity. Dump station?



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 10:06:35 2025
    On 6/17/2025 8:23 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska
    City. We stayed at Victorian Acres, it was a somewhat traditional
    RV park, and pretty typical. Mrs. theise had her 50th high school
    reunion that evening, but we drove all over town ahead of time and
    I got to see places she had frequented as a youth.

    Though I’d been there as a kid, I enjoyed seeing Arbor
    Lodge—lovely old mansion that was the home of J Sterling Morton,
    the founder of Arbor Day. The reunion was nice enough. I knew
    maybe three people there, and two of them only just.

    I can barely remember the names of any of the people I went to high
    school with. I don't answer the emails I get asking to attend these
    things. You're a better man than me for doing this for your wife.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 10:16:30 2025
    On 6/18/2025 7:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 18 Jun 2025 01:23:19 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 17:00:47 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    I'm a little late getting my trip report written up (had
    trailer repair/maintenance issues to deal with), so I hope my
    memory now doesn't let me down too badly. I'll try to write up
    a day or two each day. Here's the first.

    Day 1 was driving west...

    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across the state to Nebraska

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage and
    spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    I love those local foods that seem to only be found in small areas of
    the country, but in those areas everyone knows them. The Runza looks
    great and similar to the pasties from up in the UP in Michigan. Good stuff!


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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Thu Jun 19 16:47:24 2025
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 10:13:30 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/18/2025 7:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage
    and spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    Despite living much of my life in Nebraska (plus spending a
    fair bit of time in the panhandle), I’d never been to Lake
    McConaughy before. The approach to and drive across the dam
    was most impressive, very scenic.

    Nice looking area. Beautiful sandy beaches on that Lake. You
    do any fishing?

    Only a tiny bit back in the bad old days when I'd do all kinds of
    crazy shit after the bars closed.


    We ended up at Prairie View RV Park on the north side of the
    lake. The campground itself was pretty basic. No office, and
    when I finally found a number to call (after driving around
    the campground for a while) they said to just pick any site.
    We could not see the lake from camp, which was disappointing.

    That's interesting. Did you otherwise have good services like
    water and electricity. Dump station?

    It was full hookups, and they all worked just fine. The place was
    clean enough too.

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    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jun 19 20:58:13 2025
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:49:57 -0000 (UTC),

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it to Nebraska
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.

    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY. It was a lovely (to me) drive,
    following the North Platte most of the way. I kept thinking back
    to Niehardt’s book, The Splendid Wayfaring about the men
    (especially Jedediah Smith) who were the first of European
    ancestry to explore the region between the upper Missouri and the
    South Platte. They found the South Pass as a key part of the
    Oregon and Mormon Trails.

    The campground was River’s Edge RV Park, and indeed we were at the
    bank of the North Platte. It was lovely, and carrying a boatload
    of water to boot! In a tradition from hiking with my three boys
    (when they were young), I threw sticks into the water. :)

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250525_195041.jpg

    I liked this spot a lot.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 16:22:37 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 10:13:30 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/18/2025 7:49 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska. We picked up Runzas in Grand
    Island for lunch, yumm! This one seemed to have extra cabbage
    and spices, maybe the best one I’ve ever had.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runza

    Despite living much of my life in Nebraska (plus spending a
    fair bit of time in the panhandle), I’d never been to Lake
    McConaughy before. The approach to and drive across the dam
    was most impressive, very scenic.

    Nice looking area. Beautiful sandy beaches on that Lake. You
    do any fishing?

    Only a tiny bit back in the bad old days when I'd do all kinds of
    crazy shit after the bars closed.

    Hey. Fishing is not in the CrazyShit category.............unless you
    fish for sharks from an inner tube............at night.

    We ended up at Prairie View RV Park on the north side of the
    lake. The campground itself was pretty basic. No office, and
    when I finally found a number to call (after driving around
    the campground for a while) they said to just pick any site.
    We could not see the lake from camp, which was disappointing.

    That's interesting. Did you otherwise have good services like
    water and electricity. Dump station?

    It was full hookups, and they all worked just fine. The place was
    clean enough too.



    --
    bill
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 19 21:24:20 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:49:57 -0000 (UTC),

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it to Nebraska
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.

    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY. It was a lovely (to me) drive,
    following the North Platte most of the way. I kept thinking back
    to Niehardt’s book, The Splendid Wayfaring about the men
    (especially Jedediah Smith) who were the first of European
    ancestry to explore the region between the upper Missouri and the
    South Platte. They found the South Pass as a key part of the
    Oregon and Mormon Trails.

    The campground was River’s Edge RV Park, and indeed we were at the bank of the North Platte. It was lovely, and carrying a boatload
    of water to boot! In a tradition from hiking with my three boys
    (when they were young), I threw sticks into the water. :)

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250525_195041.jpg

    I liked this spot a lot.

    Yeah. I could feel my blood pressure going down just looking at the pic.

    --
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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Jun 20 12:51:09 2025
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 20:58:13 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.

    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone, by way of Shoshoni and Cody.
    I’d been told the drive to Shoshoni was not that interesting, and
    indeed it was not my favorite part. On top of that, it drizzled
    or rained most of the way. We were out of the rain from Shoshini
    on, and the drive along Boysen State Park and especially up
    through the Wind River Canyon to Thermopolis was just beautiful.
    On this drive I saw a number of nice silhouette art works
    depicting western scenes; discovered just now that they are part
    of the 307 First initiative...

    https://307first.com/highway-silhouettes/

    When we arrived at the east entrance to Yellowstone, the ranger at
    the window (knowing we were headed to Fishing Bridge) said with a
    smile, “You’re almost there.” I responded with a laugh, “That’s
    not what Google Maps tells me!” She laughed too. The drive over
    to the campground was of course spectacular, going over a pass and
    then along Yellowstone Lake. We were struck by the evidence of
    recently past forest fires along the way.

    The campground was set up for efficient handling of lots of
    traffic. Getting checked in was reasonably straightforward, and
    the sites (on loop E for us) were nice—though somewhat closely
    spaced.


    I forgot to mention that on day 3 on the way to Big Mac, we
    stopped at Front Street in Ogallala, a throwback to the 19th
    century western town. Kathy had been a singer and dancer in the
    revue program there the summer after her senior year of high
    school, so she really enjoyed seeing it again. The museum was
    pretty cool, and I would have enjoyed spending more time than we
    had...

    https://ogallalafrontstreet.com/


    Also, In case it matters, I've finished writing up the whole trip
    and can post the rest in one go if that's a better presentation.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Jun 20 12:24:37 2025
    On 6/20/2025 7:51 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Also, In case it matters, I've finished writing up the whole trip
    and can post the rest in one go if that's a better presentation.

    Will respond more later, but i wanted to say I like the way you're doing
    it now in bits and pieces.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sat Jun 21 09:08:39 2025
    On 6/19/2025 3:58 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 00:49:57 -0000 (UTC),

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it to Nebraska
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.

    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY. It was a lovely (to me) drive,
    following the North Platte most of the way. I kept thinking back
    to Niehardt’s book, The Splendid Wayfaring about the men
    (especially Jedediah Smith) who were the first of European
    ancestry to explore the region between the upper Missouri and the
    South Platte. They found the South Pass as a key part of the
    Oregon and Mormon Trails.

    The campground was River’s Edge RV Park, and indeed we were at the
    bank of the North Platte. It was lovely, and carrying a boatload
    of water to boot! In a tradition from hiking with my three boys
    (when they were young), I threw sticks into the water. :)

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250525_195041.jpg

    I liked this spot a lot.

    Very nice. I could see sitting there along the banks with a fishing
    pole in one hand, and a beer in another.


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sat Jun 21 09:14:31 2025
    On 6/20/2025 7:51 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Thu, 19 Jun 2025 20:58:13 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.

    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone, by way of Shoshoni and Cody.
    I’d been told the drive to Shoshoni was not that interesting, and
    indeed it was not my favorite part. On top of that, it drizzled
    or rained most of the way. We were out of the rain from Shoshini
    on, and the drive along Boysen State Park and especially up
    through the Wind River Canyon to Thermopolis was just beautiful.
    On this drive I saw a number of nice silhouette art works
    depicting western scenes; discovered just now that they are part
    of the 307 First initiative...

    https://307first.com/highway-silhouettes/

    I recently read about these somewhere. I think the scenery is
    beautiful, but I live in Illinois. so what do I know.

    When we arrived at the east entrance to Yellowstone, the ranger at
    the window (knowing we were headed to Fishing Bridge) said with a
    smile, “You’re almost there.” I responded with a laugh, “That’s not what Google Maps tells me!” She laughed too. The drive over
    to the campground was of course spectacular, going over a pass and
    then along Yellowstone Lake. We were struck by the evidence of
    recently past forest fires along the way.

    I have not been to Yellowstone. Always leery of the crowds. Might
    never get there I guess, cause that's only going to get worse.

    The campground was set up for efficient handling of lots of
    traffic. Getting checked in was reasonably straightforward, and
    the sites (on loop E for us) were nice—though somewhat closely
    spaced.

    Got a pic of the site you could post?

    I forgot to mention that on day 3 on the way to Big Mac, we
    stopped at Front Street in Ogallala, a throwback to the 19th
    century western town. Kathy had been a singer and dancer in the
    revue program there the summer after her senior year of high
    school, so she really enjoyed seeing it again. The museum was
    pretty cool, and I would have enjoyed spending more time than we
    had...

    https://ogallalafrontstreet.com/

    Makes you feel young again, if only for a short time.



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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sat Jun 21 14:27:33 2025
    On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 12:51:09 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone

    The next day (day 6) we had hoped to ride our tandem (and there
    were what looked to be decent routes along the lake), but I wasn’t
    feeling great (elevation effect, I think) so we drove north along
    the Yellowstone River. We turned off at Canyon Village and hiked
    a bit, getting great views of the Upper Falls.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250527_150642.jpg

    From there we drove further north and east toward the Lamar
    Valley, on the hunt for buffalo sightings. We didn’t see many, so
    turned back. On the way back we stopped at the area of thermal
    features and saw the Sulphur Caldron and Mud Volcano. Coming back
    from the hike around the west part of this (e.g., seeing the
    Dragon’s Mouth) we were lucky to see a few buffalo and a calf come
    right up next to the boardwalk! The ranger made us all back away
    (good idea!), but I was able to get a short video of them…

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250527_115701_1.mp4

    So all in all a great day, despite not feeling great.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sun Jun 22 15:26:41 2025
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:27:33 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River

    On day 7 we packed up the trailer and headed with it to Old
    Faithful. We didn’t have a great distance to cover for our next
    campground so I figured we could spend the morning seeing more
    sights; also, that the geyser would have ample parking. We
    arrived with about 15 minutes to the next eruption, so that timing
    worked well.

    After that we drove on toward Grand Prismatic Spring and I pulled
    into the small parking loop. Boy, that was a mistake! Traffic
    was backed up waiting for spaces, and it took 10-15 minutes to get
    into the actual parking area. They had 2 or 3 spaces designated
    for RVs, but of course they were full. So I dropped off Kathy and
    asked her to get some pictures while I drove up and down the park
    road that passes the site.

    Once I picked her up, we drove on to Grand Teton NP. Jackson Lake
    was just stunning, but our campground was in Dubois—another hour
    or more east of the park. On top of that, we needed groceries.
    Thinking Dubois didn’t have much, we drove on to Jackson, then to
    Dubois. That ended up being several hours, time I had not planned
    on, so it was rather late by the time we got to Dubois.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250528_131709.jpg

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 23 09:03:26 2025
    On 6/22/2025 10:26 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:27:33 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River

    On day 7 we packed up the trailer and headed with it to Old
    Faithful. We didn’t have a great distance to cover for our next
    campground so I figured we could spend the morning seeing more
    sights; also, that the geyser would have ample parking. We
    arrived with about 15 minutes to the next eruption, so that timing
    worked well.

    After that we drove on toward Grand Prismatic Spring and I pulled
    into the small parking loop. Boy, that was a mistake! Traffic
    was backed up waiting for spaces, and it took 10-15 minutes to get
    into the actual parking area. They had 2 or 3 spaces designated
    for RVs, but of course they were full. So I dropped off Kathy and
    asked her to get some pictures while I drove up and down the park
    road that passes the site.


    Crowds suck. Plus, the people are often foreigners and are plenty rude.
    Going into the Bryce Park store was ridiculous. Out in the hiking
    areas people act like they have no respect for the area or the other
    people there. I tend to either go in the off-season or just pick places
    fewer people will be at. It's just a fact of life now.

    But, I'm all in for making access available to these parks to American
    citizens first.

    Once I picked her up, we drove on to Grand Teton NP. Jackson Lake
    was just stunning, but our campground was in Dubois—another hour
    or more east of the park. On top of that, we needed groceries.
    Thinking Dubois didn’t have much, we drove on to Jackson, then to
    Dubois. That ended up being several hours, time I had not planned
    on, so it was rather late by the time we got to Dubois.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250528_131709.jpg

    Beautiful pic. Still plenty of snow in the upper elevations. Would
    love to throw in a line there.



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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 23 17:14:18 2025
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:26:41 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:27:33 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons

    Day 8 we got up and had our usual coffee. Unfortunately,
    something blew when I started up the grinder while the electric
    kettle was heating. After lots of fooling around with the GFCI
    and the shore power, the only way I could get things to work was
    by running a 110 V extension cord from the site pedestal in
    through the trailer window. Ugh.

    Once we were done with breakfast and coffee, I tried to fix the
    power issue. The basic problem was the GFCI outlet had tripped,
    and I’d been unable to reset it. I’d also disconnected and
    reconnected to the park power, but no joy. Thinking the outlet
    itself may have been at fault, I bought a new one in town and
    replaced the outlet. It would not work either, so I gave up for
    the day.

    At that point, we hauled the tandem over to Jenny Lake Visitor
    Center. I’d found a roughly 40-mile route online that seemed
    within our ability; unfortunately, the distance from Jenny Lake
    was more than I expected, so we ended up doing almost 50 miles and
    we were whupped when we got back…

    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    FWIW, I was not that impressed by Jackson. It seemed crowded and
    hectic, without the charm of places like Moab. The NP itself was
    beautiful, though.

    --
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 23 15:28:59 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:26:41 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:27:33 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons

    Day 8 we got up and had our usual coffee. Unfortunately,
    something blew when I started up the grinder while the electric
    kettle was heating. After lots of fooling around with the GFCI
    and the shore power, the only way I could get things to work was
    by running a 110 V extension cord from the site pedestal in
    through the trailer window. Ugh.

    Once we were done with breakfast and coffee, I tried to fix the
    power issue. The basic problem was the GFCI outlet had tripped,
    and I’d been unable to reset it. I’d also disconnected and reconnected to the park power, but no joy. Thinking the outlet
    itself may have been at fault, I bought a new one in town and
    replaced the outlet. It would not work either, so I gave up for
    the day.

    At that point, we hauled the tandem over to Jenny Lake Visitor
    Center. I’d found a roughly 40-mile route online that seemed
    within our ability; unfortunately, the distance from Jenny Lake
    was more than I expected, so we ended up doing almost 50 miles and
    we were whupped when we got back…

    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    damn. Was that whole thing on a bicycle? I get tired after an hour of
    mowing grass.......on a riding mower. However comma in my defense,
    it's not a tandem mower, so I have to do everything myself.

    FWIW, I was not that impressed by Jackson. It seemed crowded and
    hectic, without the charm of places like Moab. The NP itself was
    beautiful, though.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 23 19:00:39 2025
    On 6/23/2025 12:14 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 15:26:41 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 14:27:33 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons

    Day 8 we got up and had our usual coffee. Unfortunately,
    something blew when I started up the grinder while the electric
    kettle was heating. After lots of fooling around with the GFCI
    and the shore power, the only way I could get things to work was
    by running a 110 V extension cord from the site pedestal in
    through the trailer window. Ugh.

    Once we were done with breakfast and coffee, I tried to fix the
    power issue. The basic problem was the GFCI outlet had tripped,
    and I’d been unable to reset it. I’d also disconnected and
    reconnected to the park power, but no joy. Thinking the outlet
    itself may have been at fault, I bought a new one in town and
    replaced the outlet. It would not work either, so I gave up for
    the day.

    Did you find the problem eventually? There must be a fuse/breaker bank somewhere. You'd think the GCFI would blow before the breaker went, but
    if you've replaced the outlet you must look further, assuming you did
    reset the new breaker too?

    At that point, we hauled the tandem over to Jenny Lake Visitor
    Center. I’d found a roughly 40-mile route online that seemed
    within our ability; unfortunately, the distance from Jenny Lake
    was more than I expected, so we ended up doing almost 50 miles and
    we were whupped when we got back…

    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    That's a nice day! Not flat either. You'll look back and be glad you
    did it someday.

    FWIW, I was not that impressed by Jackson. It seemed crowded and
    hectic, without the charm of places like Moab. The NP itself was
    beautiful, though.

    Turning into a tourist trap from what I've heard...rich tourists.
    Moab isn't like it was before either. We were there about 5-6 years ago
    and stayed right in town. Had a great time. When we went through there
    this fall it was crazy. There was a jeep gathering going on, so maybe
    that had something to do with it. I didn't want to stop there at all
    this time. Too busy for me.


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Jun 23 20:08:43 2025
    On 6/23/2025 2:28 PM, bfh wrote:

    At that point, we hauled the tandem over to Jenny Lake Visitor
    Center.  I’d found a roughly 40-mile route online that seemed
    within our ability; unfortunately, the distance from Jenny Lake
    was more than I expected, so we ended up doing almost 50 miles and
    we were whupped when we got back…

    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    damn. Was that whole thing on a bicycle? I get tired after an hour of
    mowing grass.......on a riding mower. However comma in my defense, it's
    not a tandem mower, so I have to do everything myself.

    Now that's funny!

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jun 24 15:20:01 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:00:39 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons

    Day 8 we got up and had our usual coffee. Unfortunately,
    something blew when I started up the grinder while the
    electric kettle was heating. After lots of fooling around
    with the GFCI and the shore power, the only way I could get
    things to work was by running a 110 V extension cord from the
    site pedestal in through the trailer window. Ugh.

    Once we were done with breakfast and coffee, I tried to fix
    the power issue. The basic problem was the GFCI outlet had
    tripped, and I’d been unable to reset it. I’d also
    disconnected and reconnected to the park power, but no joy.
    Thinking the outlet itself may have been at fault, I bought a
    new one in town and replaced the outlet. It would not work
    either, so I gave up for the day.

    Did you find the problem eventually? There must be a
    fuse/breaker bank somewhere. You'd think the GCFI would blow
    before the breaker went, but if you've replaced the outlet you
    must look further, assuming you did reset the new breaker too?

    You're reading ahead. :)

    Though I wrote more about this later (when I knew more), it's a
    more than fair question. At the time I checked all the fuses and
    breakers, none had blown. Once we got to the next campground, the
    new GFCI outlet still woudn't reset, so I put the old one back in
    and it reset and worked just fine.

    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each time on a
    new campsite before plugging in the trailer had shown an error at
    the suspect campsite (though it came up all green after I shut off
    the 30 A and tried a second time).

    My conclusion was that the camp power was the culprit, maybe
    having a ground fault somewhere. And that the new outlet I bought
    was either not quite right for the trailer or was somehow
    defective. In any case, all worked fine the rest of the trip.


    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    That's a nice day! Not flat either. You'll look back and be
    glad you did it someday.

    LOL I'm glad already, just wasn't so much when we finished.


    FWIW, I was not that impressed by Jackson. It seemed crowded
    and hectic, without the charm of places like Moab. The NP
    itself was beautiful, though.

    Turning into a tourist trap from what I've heard...rich
    tourists. Moab isn't like it was before either. We were there
    about 5-6 years ago and stayed right in town. Had a great
    time. When we went through there this fall it was crazy.
    There was a jeep gathering going on, so maybe that had
    something to do with it. I didn't want to stop there at all
    this time. Too busy for me.

    Yeah, we were in Moab last year in April, so ahead of peak season.
    There were definitely a lot of visitors, but it still seemed to
    have a bit of a laid back feel to it. My impression, anyway.

    --
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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jun 24 15:22:20 2025
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:14:18 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem

    On day 9 we got up, had breakfast and coffee, packed up the
    trailer, and headed to Ranchester. This was a fairly long haul
    across long stretches of Wyoming. The Wind River Range was
    gorgeous and then we got to go through the Wind River Canyon
    again. As we headed east I said goodbye to the mountains in my
    rear view mirror...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_122648.jpg

    But it was premature. The approach and climb up into the Bighorns
    on US 14 was pretty gnarly, at least it got my attention! Then we
    had periodic cliffs and drop-offs on each side, concluded by a
    decent that was at least as hairy as the climb. There were
    multiple warning signs to truckers, with one switchback in
    particular stated as having had multiple deaths.

    The Lazy R CG was okay, but nothing to write home about. It had a
    sewer hookup at the site, but it was under a board so I didn’t
    mess with it. A nice finding was that I was able to reset the
    original GFCI outlet, yay! On reflection, I’d gotten an error
    signal for a bit with my circuit tester when I first plugged it in
    at the previous site, so I think something was wrong with its
    setup. In any case, I had no more problems with the trailer
    circuits.

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jun 24 11:20:33 2025
    On 6/24/2025 10:20 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each time on a
    new campsite before plugging in the trailer had shown an error at
    the suspect campsite (though it came up all green after I shut off
    the 30 A and tried a second time).

    My conclusion was that the camp power was the culprit, maybe
    having a ground fault somewhere. And that the new outlet I bought
    was either not quite right for the trailer or was somehow
    defective. In any case, all worked fine the rest of the trip.



    I'm curious about this "power testing device" you use. Do you just test
    what is coming out of the box and then put it away, or is it always on
    the line in case of surges or other faults?

    FWIW, I use a Power Watchdog and it works nicely, though I did have to
    cover up the one side as it had a ridiculous bright light coming off of it.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jun 24 19:01:13 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:20:33 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 10:20 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each time
    on a new campsite before plugging in the trailer had shown an
    error at the suspect campsite (though it came up all green
    after I shut off the 30 A and tried a second time).

    My conclusion was that the camp power was the culprit, maybe
    having a ground fault somewhere. And that the new outlet I
    bought was either not quite right for the trailer or was
    somehow defective. In any case, all worked fine the rest of
    the trip.

    I'm curious about this "power testing device" you use. Do you
    just test what is coming out of the box and then put it away,
    or is it always on the line in case of surges or other faults?

    It was part of a kit I bought from the dealer when I picked up the
    trailer, this has info on it...

    https://www.camperid.com/progressive-industries/30a-straight-male-x-30a-straight-female-surge-protector-kit-mpn-psk-30.html?srsltid=AfmBOopcVW-a4eQzYMYZp_IGrUh67mzmMuHKhJnFsHJLZaCAO9DrImLM

    https://tinyurl.com/msyjrs3s

    And yes, after testing I put it away. I have no idea how robust
    the surge protector is, I just use it.

    There has been a place or two (inluding the site with the
    problematic power) where the plug in panel didn't have a cover.
    Strikes me as suboptimal if it rains.


    FWIW, I use a Power Watchdog and it works nicely, though I did
    have to cover up the one side as it had a ridiculous bright
    light coming off of it.

    Is this some device that goes inside the trailer? If it goes on
    the plug in pedestal, it must be *really* bright to be a bother.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jun 24 21:13:34 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:44:35 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 2:01 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:20:33 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each
    time on a new campsite before plugging in the trailer had
    shown an error at the suspect campsite (though it came up
    all green after I shut off the 30 A and tried a second
    time).

    I'm curious about this "power testing device" you use. Do
    you just test what is coming out of the box and then put it
    away, or is it always on the line in case of surges or
    other faults?

    It was part of a kit I bought from the dealer when I picked up
    the trailer, this has info on it...

    https://tinyurl.com/msyjrs3s

    And yes, after testing I put it away. I have no idea how
    robust the surge protector is, I just use it.

    OK. So you plug in the tester and if that is ok you put the
    surge module in and plug into that. Then on, you are protected
    from low/high voltage and power surges. That was what I was
    interested in.

    Yep.


    There has been a place or two (inluding the site with the
    problematic power) where the plug in panel didn't have a
    cover. Strikes me as suboptimal if it rains.

    Also it's probably illegal almost everywhere. That's it can
    kill you power.

    Oh, I didn't describe it very well. I was talking about the metal
    cover that one swings up to access the outlets, not the metal of
    the pedestal itself.


    FWIW, I use a Power Watchdog and it works nicely, though I
    did have to cover up the one side as it had a ridiculous
    bright light coming off of it.

    Is this some device that goes inside the trailer? If it goes
    on the plug in pedestal, it must be *really* bright to be a
    bother.

    It goes in at the pedestal. You plug it in and it can be
    connected to from your phone. Gives a readout of current
    voltages and how much you have used. As far as the light, it
    was ridiculous that they would think it is OK for it to be as
    bright as it was. Now I'm very wary of not intruding on other
    people's enjoyment of things, and having this bright a light
    seemed ridiculous...

    Very considerate. One of the "features" of the camp we stayed at
    in western Nebraska (Merritt Reservoir) is stargazing. Apparently
    they went after (and got) some kind of designation...

    https://outdoornebraska.gov/location/merritt-reservoir/

    When I was up to pee in the night (maybe 2:00 am?) I stepped out
    the trailer door to have a look. The view wasn't impressive,
    partly because the next trailer had all their external LED lights
    on. <rolls eyes>

    I tend to be sensitive to light *in* the trailer too, and have
    resported to putting black electrical tape over the brighter
    indicator lamps that I can't turn off somehow. The "Magic Fan" on
    the ceiling over the bed seems to have a nice thermostat
    controlled setting, but it has a *really* bright green LED that
    lights uo in that mode. And if I put tape over it, the remote no
    longer works (i.e., the IR receiver must be very near that LED).
    So I haven't used it yet during the night.

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jun 24 15:44:35 2025
    On 6/24/2025 2:01 PM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 11:20:33 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 10:20 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each time
    on a new campsite before plugging in the trailer had shown an
    error at the suspect campsite (though it came up all green
    after I shut off the 30 A and tried a second time).

    My conclusion was that the camp power was the culprit, maybe
    having a ground fault somewhere. And that the new outlet I
    bought was either not quite right for the trailer or was
    somehow defective. In any case, all worked fine the rest of
    the trip.

    I'm curious about this "power testing device" you use. Do you
    just test what is coming out of the box and then put it away,
    or is it always on the line in case of surges or other faults?

    It was part of a kit I bought from the dealer when I picked up the
    trailer, this has info on it...

    https://www.camperid.com/progressive-industries/30a-straight-male-x-30a-straight-female-surge-protector-kit-mpn-psk-30.html?srsltid=AfmBOopcVW-a4eQzYMYZp_IGrUh67mzmMuHKhJnFsHJLZaCAO9DrImLM

    https://tinyurl.com/msyjrs3s

    And yes, after testing I put it away. I have no idea how robust
    the surge protector is, I just use it.

    OK. So you plug in the tester and if that is ok you put the surge
    module in and plug into that. Then on, you are protected from low/high
    voltage and power surges. That was what I was interested in.

    There has been a place or two (inluding the site with the
    problematic power) where the plug in panel didn't have a cover.
    Strikes me as suboptimal if it rains.

    Also it's probably illegal almost everywhere. That's it can kill you
    power.

    FWIW, I use a Power Watchdog and it works nicely, though I did
    have to cover up the one side as it had a ridiculous bright
    light coming off of it.

    Is this some device that goes inside the trailer? If it goes on
    the plug in pedestal, it must be *really* bright to be a bother.

    It goes in at the pedestal. You plug it in and it can be connected to
    from your phone. Gives a readout of current voltages and how much you
    have used. As far as the light, it was ridiculous that they would think
    it is OK for it to be as bright as it was. Now I'm very wary of not
    intruding on other people's enjoyment of things, and having this bright
    a light seemed ridiculous. Many other people have complained about it,
    and they sell some kind of cloth cover to lessen the brightness. I
    opted to use black gorilla tape and make it blacked out. Cut a piece of cardboard to fit and wrapped the whole thing. It is a pricey unit, so I
    also got a couple cable locks to secure the thing.

    <https://hughesautoformers.com/product/pwd30-epo/>

    As crappy as the electric can be in these parks some kind of protection
    is required. The water can also be very bad in some places. I have two
    water pressure regulators, small so I keep a spare, and I don't let it
    go over 40 psi. They have to have a big pump and pressure system to
    supply all the park and you don't want to be hooked up when it goes up
    and blows out all your pipes.



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jun 24 19:14:28 2025
    On 6/24/2025 10:22 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:14:18 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem

    On day 9 we got up, had breakfast and coffee, packed up the
    trailer, and headed to Ranchester. This was a fairly long haul
    across long stretches of Wyoming. The Wind River Range was
    gorgeous and then we got to go through the Wind River Canyon
    again. As we headed east I said goodbye to the mountains in my
    rear view mirror...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_122648.jpg

    But it was premature. The approach and climb up into the Bighorns
    on US 14 was pretty gnarly, at least it got my attention! Then we
    had periodic cliffs and drop-offs on each side, concluded by a
    decent that was at least as hairy as the climb. There were
    multiple warning signs to truckers, with one switchback in
    particular stated as having had multiple deaths.

    did some street view on 14. Pretty cool road. Giving me the itch.

    The Lazy R CG was okay, but nothing to write home about. It had a
    sewer hookup at the site, but it was under a board so I didn’t
    mess with it.

    Well that's not good. They're supposed to be above ground so runoff
    among other things, doesn't go in them. Probably had someone run over
    the pipe and got tired of fixing them. That's why you notice lots of
    places put rocks in front of them.


    A nice finding was that I was able to reset the
    original GFCI outlet, yay! On reflection, I’d gotten an error
    signal for a bit with my circuit tester when I first plugged it in
    at the previous site, so I think something was wrong with its
    setup. In any case, I had no more problems with the trailer
    circuits.

    Good news.


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jun 24 20:19:20 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 10:22 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 17:14:18 -0000 (UTC),
       Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

      Day 1 was driving west...
      Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
      Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
      Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
      On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
      day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
      On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
      Day 8 we rode the tandem

    On day 9 we got up, had breakfast and coffee, packed up the
    trailer, and headed to Ranchester.  This was a fairly long haul
    across long stretches of Wyoming.  The Wind River Range was
    gorgeous and then we got to go through the Wind River Canyon
    again.  As we headed east I said goodbye to the mountains in my
    rear view mirror...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_122648.jpg


    But it was premature.  The approach and climb up into the Bighorns
    on US 14 was pretty gnarly, at least it got my attention!  Then we
    had periodic cliffs and drop-offs on each side, concluded by a
    decent that was at least as hairy as the climb.  There were
    multiple warning signs to truckers, with one switchback in
    particular stated as having had multiple deaths.

    did some street view on 14.  Pretty cool road.  Giving me the itch.

    The Lazy R CG was okay, but nothing to write home about.  It had a
    sewer hookup at the site, but it was under a board so I didn’t
    mess with it.

    Well that's not good.  They're supposed to be above ground so runoff
    among other things, doesn't go in them.  Probably had someone run over
    the pipe and got tired of fixing them.  That's why you notice lots of
    places put rocks in front of them.


    A nice finding was that I was able to reset the
    original GFCI outlet, yay!  On reflection, I’d gotten an error
    signal for a bit with my circuit tester when I first plugged it in
    at the previous site, so I think something was wrong with its
    setup.  In any case, I had no more problems with the trailer
    circuits.

    Good news.

    Sometimes, shit unhappens.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Tue Jun 24 20:43:42 2025
    On 6/24/2025 7:19 PM, bfh wrote:

    Sometimes, shit unhappens.

    Wish I could have unhailed my Bronco and Winnebago View!


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Jun 25 00:29:24 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 6/24/2025 7:19 PM, bfh wrote:

    Sometimes, shit unhappens.

    Wish I could have unhailed my Bronco and Winnebago View!

    It was unhailed right after it was hailed. The hailtracks are the problem.


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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jun 25 12:51:13 2025
    On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 15:22:20 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...

    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft, it was a short drive so on
    our way we made a stop at the Brinton Museum. Recommended by a
    friend, it is a fabulous place with outstanding native American
    artifacts and western art. They had an exhibit featuring
    accomplished Wyoming women that was inspiring…

    https://thebrintonmuseum.org/

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_095753.jpg

    After finishing the drive we arrived at Timber Ridge CG which
    turned out to be one of our favorite campsites. It had full
    hookups and the place was very clean and well kept up. The
    bathhouse was very nice and it was the first place that had let us
    have a campfire…

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_205215.jpg

    Because we got in at a reasonable time, we did laundry as well.

    --
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  • From Justan@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jun 25 14:40:57 2025
    On 6/24/25 10:20 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 19:00:39 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons

    Day 8 we got up and had our usual coffee. Unfortunately,
    something blew when I started up the grinder while the
    electric kettle was heating. After lots of fooling around
    with the GFCI and the shore power, the only way I could get
    things to work was by running a 110 V extension cord from the
    site pedestal in through the trailer window. Ugh.

    Once we were done with breakfast and coffee, I tried to fix
    the power issue. The basic problem was the GFCI outlet had
    tripped, and I’d been unable to reset it. I’d also
    disconnected and reconnected to the park power, but no joy.
    Thinking the outlet itself may have been at fault, I bought a
    new one in town and replaced the outlet. It would not work
    either, so I gave up for the day.

    Did you find the problem eventually? There must be a
    fuse/breaker bank somewhere. You'd think the GCFI would blow
    before the breaker went, but if you've replaced the outlet you
    must look further, assuming you did reset the new breaker too?

    You're reading ahead. :)

    Though I wrote more about this later (when I knew more), it's a
    more than fair question. At the time I checked all the fuses and
    breakers, none had blown. Once we got to the next campground, the
    new GFCI outlet still woudn't reset, so I put the old one back in
    and it reset and worked just fine.

    I recalled also that the power testing device I use each time on a
    new campsite before plugging in the trailer had shown an error at
    the suspect campsite (though it came up all green after I shut off
    the 30 A and tried a second time).

    My conclusion was that the camp power was the culprit, maybe
    having a ground fault somewhere. And that the new outlet I bought
    was either not quite right for the trailer or was somehow
    defective. In any case, all worked fine the rest of the trip.


    https://ridewithgps.com/trips/288956429

    That's a nice day! Not flat either. You'll look back and be
    glad you did it someday.

    LOL I'm glad already, just wasn't so much when we finished.


    FWIW, I was not that impressed by Jackson. It seemed crowded
    and hectic, without the charm of places like Moab. The NP
    itself was beautiful, though.

    Turning into a tourist trap from what I've heard...rich
    tourists. Moab isn't like it was before either. We were there
    about 5-6 years ago and stayed right in town. Had a great
    time. When we went through there this fall it was crazy.
    There was a jeep gathering going on, so maybe that had
    something to do with it. I didn't want to stop there at all
    this time. Too busy for me.

    Yeah, we were in Moab last year in April, so ahead of peak season.
    There were definitely a lot of visitors, but it still seemed to
    have a bit of a laid back feel to it. My impression, anyway.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

    My understanding is that the gfci checks the load side for any potential
    difference between load and neutral. If found, the gfci trips. My initial
    thought is that the pedistal breaker was worn out.

    --
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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Thu Jun 26 12:23:55 2025
    On Wed, 25 Jun 2025 12:51:13 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...
    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft

    Two days today, because the first is short...

    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower. I had not appreciated the
    extent to which native americans have revered the place. Some of
    their names for it are "Bear Lodge," "Bear's Tipi," and "Tree
    Rock." The bear aspect includes some legends that the grooves
    were carved by a climbing bear’s claws.

    On day 12 we took out the tandem again—this time from the
    campground toward Keyhole State Park and then around to Moorcroft.
    The wind was stiff, so the 35 miles we rode was quite a challenge.
    The end of the ride included a very steep grade that we just
    couldn’t quite ride all the way up—had to walk the last 50 yards
    or so. :(

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250602_131135.jpg

    After all the exercise, we treated ourselves to a nice dinner at a
    Mexican restaurant. It really hit the spot! That night I planned
    the next day’s stop, which ended up being at Merritt Reservoir
    near Valentine, NE.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Sun Jun 29 02:12:58 2025
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 12:23:55 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...
    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft
    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower
    On day 12 we took out the tandem again

    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska. By now I’d
    realized that traffic on much of I-90 in Wyoming was reasonably
    light and I didn’t feel that pulling the trailer at 60 mph was inconveniencing other drivers all that much. So we took that
    route around the Black Hills and through Sturgis and Rapid City.
    Neither of these towns were very attractive to me, though the
    landscapes were.

    From Rapid City we took 44 down through the Badlands, though it
    seemed more appropriate that they should have been called the
    Badroads. Ugh. Rough, narrow, and rough. Did I mention they
    were rough? There was a nice stretch through pine ridges and it
    got a little better once we entered Nebraska.

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic. The place
    clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed somewhat
    trashy. It was fine for a night, though. And we had a nice
    sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 08:14:53 2025
    On 6/25/2025 7:51 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...

    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft, it was a short drive so on
    our way we made a stop at the Brinton Museum. Recommended by a
    friend, it is a fabulous place with outstanding native American
    artifacts and western art. They had an exhibit featuring
    accomplished Wyoming women that was inspiring…

    https://thebrintonmuseum.org/

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_095753.jpg

    After finishing the drive we arrived at Timber Ridge CG which
    turned out to be one of our favorite campsites. It had full
    hookups and the place was very clean and well kept up. The
    bathhouse was very nice and it was the first place that had let us
    have a campfire…

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250531_205215.jpg

    Because we got in at a reasonable time, we did laundry as well.


    I like small places like this. Only 15 sites and good gravel bases
    everywhere.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 08:38:13 2025
    On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:


    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska. By now I’d
    realized that traffic on much of I-90 in Wyoming was reasonably
    light and I didn’t feel that pulling the trailer at 60 mph was inconveniencing other drivers all that much. So we took that
    route around the Black Hills and through Sturgis and Rapid City.
    Neither of these towns were very attractive to me, though the
    landscapes were.

    My brother-in-law lives in Rapid City, and the wife's parents lived
    between Custer and Deadwood for about 25 years before moving back this
    way. I have to agree with your assessment of Rapid and Sturgis. Not
    must see places. Rapid is really not very big at all, and Sturgis only
    has the biker rally. It gets damn hot out there in the summer, too.

    From Rapid City we took 44 down through the Badlands, though it
    seemed more appropriate that they should have been called the
    Badroads. Ugh. Rough, narrow, and rough. Did I mention they
    were rough? There was a nice stretch through pine ridges and it
    got a little better once we entered Nebraska.

    Try going there when the rally is going on. You just can't get anywhere
    with all the 2 lane roads and bikers clogging up everything. BIL likes
    to come visit us when it is going on the roads and getting around are so
    bad.

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic. The place
    clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed somewhat
    trashy. It was fine for a night, though. And we had a nice
    sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

    I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the world". Did
    you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?



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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 08:25:54 2025
    On 6/26/2025 7:23 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft

    Two days today, because the first is short...

    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower. I had not appreciated the
    extent to which native americans have revered the place. Some of
    their names for it are "Bear Lodge," "Bear's Tipi," and "Tree
    Rock." The bear aspect includes some legends that the grooves
    were carved by a climbing bear’s claws.

    I read something recently about them being very upset at first about
    people climbing it. Don't know how they got it all worked out. My wife
    has seen it several times, but I never have. On the list

    On day 12 we took out the tandem again—this time from the
    campground toward Keyhole State Park and then around to Moorcroft.
    The wind was stiff, so the 35 miles we rode was quite a challenge.
    The end of the ride included a very steep grade that we just
    couldn’t quite ride all the way up—had to walk the last 50 yards
    or so. :(

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250602_131135.jpg

    35 miles in the wind is rough. Glad you made it.
    I enjoy seeing those rural small farms. So peaceful.

    After all the exercise, we treated ourselves to a nice dinner at a
    Mexican restaurant. It really hit the spot! That night I planned
    the next day’s stop, which ended up being at Merritt Reservoir
    near Valentine, NE.

    You're spoiling her.


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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Mon Jun 30 17:42:11 2025
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic. The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy. It was fine for a night, though. And we had
    a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

    I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
    world". Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that. I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars. As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 17:40:22 2025
    On Sun, 29 Jun 2025 02:12:58 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...
    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft
    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower
    On day 12 we took out the tandem again
    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska

    The next morning (day 14) we packed up and drove the rest of the
    way across Nebraska, swinging back up to Valentine, taking scenic
    highway 20 for some time, and landing near Onawa, IA. As we got
    into eastern Nebraska and for a good part of western Iowa, we had
    hill after steep hill to climb. These were at times a bit much
    for the Acadia, and I would often end up driving less than 50 mph
    so it wouldn’t be running at crazy rpms.

    This campsite was at Lewis and Clark Lake State Park, along an old
    ox bow of the Missouri River. No bath house, but it was
    reasonably scenic and we had a nice campfire...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250604_195534.jpg

    --
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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 16:36:15 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic. The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy. It was fine for a night, though. And we had
    a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

    I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
    world". Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that. I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars. As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jun 30 16:29:42 2025
    On 6/30/2025 12:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska

    The next morning (day 14) we packed up and drove the rest of the
    way across Nebraska, swinging back up to Valentine, taking scenic
    highway 20 for some time, and landing near Onawa, IA. As we got
    into eastern Nebraska and for a good part of western Iowa, we had
    hill after steep hill to climb. These were at times a bit much
    for the Acadia, and I would often end up driving less than 50 mph
    so it wouldn’t be running at crazy rpms.

    You gotta get used to speeding up on the downhills so you have enough
    momentum to do the climbing. I did my best to do it pulling our TOAD
    and it sure helps, but I have a diesel and don't mind it chugging along
    if necessary.
    I love the hilly parts of Iowa. On the eastern side along the
    Mississippi, it's just gorgeous. Rode the motorcycle 450 miles on
    Saturday up through Wisconsin on hwy 33 into La Crescent, Minnesota,
    then took the Great River Road down through Iowa and into Dubuque.
    Turned into Illinois and went thru Galena and headed home. Beautiful
    day to be out riding. Upper 80's until we got to La Crosse, then it
    jumped up into the low 90's for a short period, but it was manageable.

    This campsite was at Lewis and Clark Lake State Park, along an old
    ox bow of the Missouri River. No bath house, but it was
    reasonably scenic and we had a nice campfire...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250604_195534.jpg

    Cool, you got another spot right on the water. Peaceful. How were the
    bugs out there?


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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Jun 30 16:16:54 2025
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
       sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
      On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic.  The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy.  It was fine for a night, though.  And we had
    a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/
    uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

      I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
      world".  Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that.  I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars.  As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell. I can understand needing a little light to see
    around your site in the dark, but some people seem to be proud of their
    special lighting and just want to show off. It's bad enough when they
    do this when they're sitting outside, but why in the hell would you
    leave them on when you go inside. They're either too stupid to
    understand that others might not like all the light, or they just don't
    care and do it anyway.
    Same with radios. What in the hell makes someone think that other
    people camping want to hear their radio blaring away? Stupid or just
    rude. Assholes!


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Mon Jun 30 17:39:37 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
       sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
      On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic.  The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy.  It was fine for a night, though.  And we had >>>>> a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/
    uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

      I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
      world".  Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that.  I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars.  As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell.  I can understand needing a little light to see around your site in the dark, but some people seem to be proud of
    their special lighting and just want to show off.  It's bad enough
    when they do this when they're sitting outside, but why in the hell
    would you leave them on when you go inside.  They're either too stupid
    to understand that others might not like all the light, or they just
    don't care and do it anyway.
    Same with radios.  What in the hell makes someone think that other
    people camping want to hear their radio blaring away?  Stupid or just rude.  Assholes!

    I hope that rant made you feel better. I mean, damn - it even made me
    feel better just reading it.

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Mon Jun 30 19:15:03 2025
    On 6/30/2025 4:39 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell.  I can understand needing a little light to see
    around your site in the dark, but some people seem to be proud of
    their special lighting and just want to show off.  It's bad enough
    when they do this when they're sitting outside, but why in the hell
    would you leave them on when you go inside.  They're either too stupid
    to understand that others might not like all the light, or they just
    don't care and do it anyway.
    Same with radios.  What in the hell makes someone think that other
    people camping want to hear their radio blaring away?  Stupid or just
    rude.  Assholes!

    I hope that rant made you feel better. I mean, damn - it even made me
    feel better just reading it.

    I didn't even get into dogs. Now I love the hell out of dogs. But I
    expect the owner to have taught them some manners. I don't get mad at
    dogs, but I do get mad at the owners.

    When we were down in Utah a guy and his wife get the spot next to us and
    they have a good sized dog. He's letting it roam around without a
    leash, which just about everywhere is not good. I walk up to the
    campground store and when I get back I'll be damned there's a pile of
    shit on my site. I was making a bunch of noise about how in the hell I
    could have dog shit on my grass when I don't have a dog as I picked it
    up. Then I gave the owner the evil eye. He kept it on a leash after
    that, at least when we were there and I didn't pick up any more dog crap.
    Other than that, we had lots of dogs around and almost all of them were
    very quiet and well behaved. Some people just think they're "special" I
    guess.


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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jul 1 13:07:56 2025
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 16:29:42 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 12:40 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    ...As we got into eastern Nebraska and for a good part of
    western Iowa, we had hill after steep hill to climb. These
    were at times a bit much for the Acadia, and I would often end
    up driving less than 50 mph so it wouldn’t be running at crazy
    rpms.

    You gotta get used to speeding up on the downhills so you have
    enough momentum to do the climbing. I did my best to do it
    pulling our TOAD and it sure helps, but I have a diesel and
    don't mind it chugging along if necessary.

    Yeah, I do some of that, but don't want the trailer getting too
    squirrely so have to moderate a bit. And some of those hills are
    just so dang big that the momentum will only carry you so far up.

    Interestingly, we use a similar technique on the tandem. When the
    spacing and height of the hills are just right, it's a real blast.
    We call them "tandem rollers" and they let you build up a lot of
    speed--just flying over the crests. Tons of fun.


    I love the hilly parts of Iowa. On the eastern side along the
    Mississippi, it's just gorgeous. Rode the motorcycle 450 miles
    on Saturday up through Wisconsin on hwy 33 into La Crescent,
    Minnesota, then took the Great River Road down through Iowa and
    into Dubuque. Turned into Illinois and went thru Galena and
    headed home. Beautiful day to be out riding. Upper 80's until
    we got to La Crosse, then it jumped up into the low 90's for a
    short period, but it was manageable.

    Nice!


    This campsite was at Lewis and Clark Lake State Park, along an
    old ox bow of the Missouri River. No bath house, but it was
    reasonably scenic and we had a nice campfire...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250604_195534.jpg

    Cool, you got another spot right on the water. Peaceful. How
    were the bugs out there?

    I had pretty good luck getting sites on water edges. In today's
    world, many of the reservation systems give a good look at what's
    around each site.

    Bugs were tolerable most places, not like our camping near Lake
    Huron a couple of years ago. Those mosquitoes were blood thirsty
    bastards!

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jul 1 13:01:36 2025
    Final installment.

    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:40:22 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa...
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...
    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft
    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower
    On day 12 we took out the tandem again
    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska
    (day 14) we drove across Nebraska...

    On day 15 we crossed Iowa, ending up at Fairport State Recreation
    Area right on the Mississippi just west of Davenport. It was a
    nice final campsite, it had a bath house and we could see the
    river from our trailer.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250605_195422.jpg

    Day 16 brought us home. All in all it was a great trip. We saw
    more amazing countryside, and I got more familiar with the camper.
    In the end I liked state parks as much if not more than the
    commercial places. Though they usually had only electric, that
    was okay and I could dump and fill tanks when needed. As a plus,
    they were generally not full, so I felt as if I could wing it a
    bit more (i.e., not have all the stops planned out ahead of time).

    --
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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jul 1 13:10:09 2025
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 19:15:03 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 4:39 PM, bfh wrote:
    sticks wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios,
    and buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell. I can understand needing a little
    light to see around your site in the dark, but some people
    seem to be proud of their special lighting and just want to
    show off. It's bad enough when they do this when they're
    sitting outside, but why in the hell would you leave them on
    when you go inside. They're either too stupid to understand
    that others might not like all the light, or they just don't
    care and do it anyway. Same with radios. What in the hell
    makes someone think that other people camping want to hear
    their radio blaring away? Stupid or just rude. Assholes!

    I hope that rant made you feel better. I mean, damn - it even
    made me feel better just reading it.

    Me too! LOL

    I may put on our external LEDs in the evening when folks are still
    up and about, especially if Kathy has gone to the bath house. But
    there are plenty of camps where they never get turned on at all.


    I didn't even get into dogs. Now I love the hell out of dogs.
    But I expect the owner to have taught them some manners. I
    don't get mad at dogs, but I do get mad at the owners.

    When we were down in Utah a guy and his wife get the spot next
    to us and they have a good sized dog. He's letting it roam
    around without a leash, which just about everywhere is not
    good. I walk up to the campground store and when I get back
    I'll be damned there's a pile of shit on my site. I was making
    a bunch of noise about how in the hell I could have dog shit on
    my grass when I don't have a dog as I picked it up. Then I
    gave the owner the evil eye. He kept it on a leash after that,
    at least when we were there and I didn't pick up any more dog
    crap. Other than that, we had lots of dogs around and almost
    all of them were very quiet and well behaved. Some people just
    think they're "special" I guess.

    Yeah, what is *wrong* with people. Rude.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jul 2 15:31:09 2025
    On 7/1/2025 8:01 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    Final installment.

    On day 15 we crossed Iowa, ending up at Fairport State Recreation
    Area right on the Mississippi just west of Davenport. It was a
    nice final campsite, it had a bath house and we could see the
    river from our trailer.

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my looking at where
    you always ended up. ;-) That's a nice area. Brother of mine went to Augustana College just up the road in Rock Island. I got throwed out of
    a bar there one night.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250605_195422.jpg

    Day 16 brought us home. All in all it was a great trip. We saw
    more amazing countryside, and I got more familiar with the camper.
    In the end I liked state parks as much if not more than the
    commercial places. Though they usually had only electric, that
    was okay and I could dump and fill tanks when needed. As a plus,
    they were generally not full, so I felt as if I could wing it a
    bit more (i.e., not have all the stops planned out ahead of time).

    Could just be wishful thinking, but the state parks seem to have just a
    little bit bigger sites, too. I agree with you on only having electric,
    too. That also probably helps keep them less crowded because some
    people just have to be hooked up.

    Anyway, appreciate you posting about your journey. I enjoyed reading
    them and it kept me in the RVing mood while mine was in the shop.


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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Jul 2 17:11:13 2025
    sticks wrote:
    On 7/1/2025 8:01 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    Final installment.

    On day 15 we crossed Iowa, ending up at Fairport State Recreation
    Area right on the Mississippi just west of Davenport.  It was a
    nice final campsite, it had a bath house and we could see the
    river from our trailer.

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my looking at where
    you always ended up.  ;-)  That's a nice area.  Brother of mine went
    to Augustana College just up the road in Rock Island.  I got throwed
    out of a bar there one night.

    Be thankful you weren't throwed out of a car.

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250605_195422.jpg


    Day 16 brought us home.  All in all it was a great trip.  We saw
    more amazing countryside, and I got more familiar with the camper.
    In the end I liked state parks as much if not more than the
    commercial places.  Though they usually had only electric, that
    was okay and I could dump and fill tanks when needed.  As a plus,
    they were generally not full, so I felt as if I could wing it a
    bit more (i.e., not have all the stops planned out ahead of time).

    Could just be wishful thinking, but the state parks seem to have just
    a little bit bigger sites, too.  I agree with you on only having
    electric, too.  That also probably helps keep them less crowded
    because some people just have to be hooked up.

    Anyway, appreciate you posting about your journey.  I enjoyed reading
    them and it kept me in the RVing mood while mine was in the shop.




    --
    bill
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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Jul 4 12:58:20 2025
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:31:09 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/1/2025 8:01 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    Final installment.

    On day 15 we crossed Iowa, ending up at Fairport State
    Recreation Area right on the Mississippi just west of
    Davenport. It was a nice final campsite, it had a bath house
    and we could see the river from our trailer.

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my looking at
    where you always ended up. ;-)

    LOL no For whatever reason, it just doesn't interest me that
    much. Though I do like seeing the water.


    ...That's a nice area. Brother of mine went to
    Augustana College just up the road in Rock Island.

    I recall stumbling across a very good barbecue place just north of
    Davenport many years ago. Seems like it was called Pelican Pete's
    or something like that. It was right on the river. Checked table
    cloths. I've searched (online) for it a few times in the past few
    years and always come up empty.

    Speaking of good BBQ, on our relatively frequent travels across
    Illinois (to get from Indiana to Nebraska) we really like stopping
    at Black Dog Smoke & Ale in Champaign, if the time allows (and
    lines up with mealtime).

    Speaking of drives to Nebraska, my wife and I decided just last
    week to move back to Nebraska (we lived there until 1997 when we
    moved to Indiana for my career). Now that I'm retired, we're
    going home. As a plus, it'll be a shorter drive to the Rockies
    and the Southwest. :)


    ...I got throwed out of a bar there one night.

    Okay, that's more we have in common. Though my bad old days of
    alcoholic drinking are behind me, thankfully.


    In the end I liked state parks as much if not more than the
    commercial places. Though they usually had only electric,
    that was okay and I could dump and fill tanks when needed.
    As a plus, they were generally not full, so I felt as if I
    could wing it a bit more (i.e., not have all the stops planned
    out ahead of time).

    Could just be wishful thinking, but the state parks seem to
    have just a little bit bigger sites, too. I agree with you on
    only having electric, too. That also probably helps keep them
    less crowded because some people just have to be hooked up.

    Interesting. Now that you mention it, the sites do seem a bit
    less sardined in than the typical commercial CG. Good point about
    no FHU keeping out some folks.


    Anyway, appreciate you posting about your journey. I enjoyed
    reading them and it kept me in the RVing mood while mine was in
    the shop.

    You're welcome, least I can do in return for all the advice I've
    gotten here!

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Fri Jul 4 15:39:54 2025
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Jun 2025 12:23:55 -0000 (UTC),
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> wrote:

    Day 1 was driving west...
    Day 2 we swung up into Iowa and drove across it
    Day 3 we headed across Nebraska.
    Day 4 we drove into Casper, WY.
    On day 5 we drove to Yellowstone
    day 6) ... drove north along the Yellowstone River
    On day 7 we [saw geysers and headed to Tetons
    Day 8 we rode the tandem
    On day 9 we headed to Ranchester...
    On day 10 we bopped over to Moorcroft
    Day 11 was our trip to Devils Tower
    On day 12 we took out the tandem again

    Day 13 was a drive from Wyoming to western Nebraska. By now I’d
    realized that traffic on much of I-90 in Wyoming was reasonably
    light and I didn’t feel that pulling the trailer at 60 mph was inconveniencing other drivers all that much. So we took that
    route around the Black Hills and through Sturgis and Rapid City.
    Neither of these towns were very attractive to me, though the
    landscapes were.

    From Rapid City we took 44 down through the Badlands, though it
    seemed more appropriate that they should have been called the
    Badroads. Ugh. Rough, narrow, and rough. Did I mention they
    were rough? There was a nice stretch through pine ridges and it
    got a little better once we entered Nebraska.

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic. The place
    clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed somewhat
    trashy. It was fine for a night, though. And we had a nice
    sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg


    We have traveled extensively all over this country. Bad roads are not
    unique to any state. However… we are on our way to Seattle to visit family and I can tell you that I40 from Amarillo through New Mexico has to be
    number two. I40 through New Mexico to Amarillo has to be number one.

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to sticks on Fri Jul 4 15:39:57 2025
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
       sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
      On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic.  The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy.  It was fine for a night, though.  And we had
    a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/
    uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

      I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
      world".  Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that.  I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars.  As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell. I can understand needing a little light to see
    around your site in the dark, but some people seem to be proud of their special lighting and just want to show off. It's bad enough when they
    do this when they're sitting outside, but why in the hell would you
    leave them on when you go inside. They're either too stupid to
    understand that others might not like all the light, or they just don't
    care and do it anyway.
    Same with radios. What in the hell makes someone think that other
    people camping want to hear their radio blaring away? Stupid or just
    rude. Assholes!



    Democrats!

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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Fri Jul 4 15:42:11 2025
    George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 6/30/2025 3:36 PM, bfh wrote:
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 30 Jun 2025 08:38:13 -0500,
       sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
      On 6/28/2025 9:12 PM, Ted Heise wrote:

    The state park at Merritt Reservoir was a bit rustic.  The
    place clearly catered mostly to fishermen, and it also seemed
    somewhat trashy.  It was fine for a night, though.  And we had
    a nice sunset...

    https://panix.com/~theise/wp-content/
    uploads/2025/06/20250603_213017.jpg

      I see they claim to have "some of the darkest skies in the
      world".  Did you have a clear night and see the Milky Way?

    Good question, I meant to mention that.  I got out of bed about 2
    am to pee, and decided to step out of the trailer to see the
    stars.  As it happened, the next door trailer had all their
    exterior LED lights blazing, so I didn't see much.

    IMO, cutesy LEDs are right up there with generators, radios, and
    buttugly yapping dogs.

    I know, what the hell. I can understand needing a little light to see
    around your site in the dark, but some people seem to be proud of their
    special lighting and just want to show off. It's bad enough when they
    do this when they're sitting outside, but why in the hell would you
    leave them on when you go inside. They're either too stupid to
    understand that others might not like all the light, or they just don't
    care and do it anyway.
    Same with radios. What in the hell makes someone think that other
    people camping want to hear their radio blaring away? Stupid or just
    rude. Assholes!



    Democrats!


    We are on our way to Seattle (ugh). Beautiful area, lunatic people. Anyway,
    not much to say on the way up. We are on a time crunch. I may try to post a little on the trip back home. We have covered this route so many times we
    are almost oblivious to the sights. I do have plans to try a new route home this time so I may have something to report.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Mon Jul 7 15:07:38 2025
    On 7/4/2025 7:58 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:31:09 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my looking at
    where you always ended up. ;-)

    LOL no For whatever reason, it just doesn't interest me that
    much. Though I do like seeing the water.

    I used to fish a lot more than I do now. Just always seems like there
    is something else I should do. Doesn't help that the wife doesn't fish,
    but she at least used to go sit along the shore and read. We haven't
    done that in two years for some reason. I also do love to eat fish
    while camping. Stayed up at Lake Koshkenong in Wisconsin and we'd get
    lots of catfish, walleye, and largemouth. I really do enjoy fried
    catfish, some fried potatoes, and beans.

    ---snip---

    Speaking of drives to Nebraska, my wife and I decided just last
    week to move back to Nebraska (we lived there until 1997 when we
    moved to Indiana for my career). Now that I'm retired, we're
    going home. As a plus, it'll be a shorter drive to the Rockies
    and the Southwest. :)

    Wow, that's big. Congratulations. Indiana is not a bad place to live,
    but Nebraska is better, and cuts off a whole day getting west. That is
    one of the big problems with where we live in Illinois. Takes at least
    two days, usually 3, to get to where we want to be.

    ...I got throwed out of a bar there one night.

    Okay, that's more we have in common. Though my bad old days of
    alcoholic drinking are behind me, thankfully.

    Mine pretty much are, too. Not by my choice, but my wife just goes
    crazy. I'm starting to resent that and am probably going to take that
    power away from her. Not that I want to drink all the time, but if I
    want one I don't want to fight a war over it.




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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Mon Jul 7 15:38:51 2025
    On 7/4/2025 10:42 AM, George.Anthony wrote:

    We are on our way to Seattle (ugh). Beautiful area, lunatic people.

    It is insane such a large area like that gets filled with some many
    nuts. Like another world up there.

    not much to say on the way up. We are on a time crunch. I may try to post a little on the trip back home. We have covered this route so many times we
    are almost oblivious to the sights. I do have plans to try a new route home this time so I may have something to report.

    Looking forward to it.
    still hoping to get to Idaho later this year, though we went to
    Kohler-Andrae State Park over the holidays and walked on the beach and
    it wasn't good. I did finish the 3 shot routine of injections of some
    gel in the knees and they're still junk. We only hiked about 7 miles
    along the shore and by halfway and time to turn around, right one was
    all inflamed. If it gets bad on a flat beach, I don't know how I would
    handle any elevation change, though the poles would help. I thought it
    would be kinda stupid using them on the beach.

    BTW, this is a great park right on Lake Michigan open all year long with
    52 electric campsites with each having a fire ring, hiking trails, and a
    huge beach. It's about 100 feet deep, and they say 2 miles long. But
    that's only in the park. You can walk along the beach outside the park
    too for miles and miles. It's not as warm as some would like, but it
    was probably around 60F or maybe a bit warmer, but you can walk out a
    long way before it gets deep enough you have to swim. Fun place.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to sticks on Tue Jul 8 15:30:41 2025
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 15:07:38 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 7:58 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:31:09 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my
    looking at where you always ended up. ;-)

    LOL no For whatever reason, it just doesn't interest me that
    much. Though I do like seeing the water.

    I used to fish a lot more than I do now. Just always seems
    like there is something else I should do. Doesn't help that
    the wife doesn't fish, but she at least used to go sit along
    the shore and read. We haven't done that in two years for some
    reason. I also do love to eat fish while camping. Stayed up
    at Lake Koshkenong in Wisconsin and we'd get lots of catfish,
    walleye, and largemouth. I really do enjoy fried catfish, some
    fried potatoes, and beans.

    Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some fish--great eating! I just
    don't care to take the trouble to coax them out of the water.



    week to move back to Nebraska (we lived there until 1997 when
    we moved to Indiana for my career). Now that I'm retired,
    we're going home. As a plus, it'll be a shorter drive to the
    Rockies and the Southwest. :)

    Wow, that's big. Congratulations. Indiana is not a bad place
    to live, but Nebraska is better, and cuts off a whole day
    getting west. That is one of the big problems with where we
    live in Illinois. Takes at least two days, usually 3, to get
    to where we want to be.

    Thanks! And for me, it cuts off two days, given my 60 mph upper
    towing limit and slightly greater distance.

    We're excited about getting back there. One gripe: until we get
    the cars licensed there we would have to pay out of state fees for
    a state parks pass. So that's one to do item that'll have to
    wait.


    ...I got throwed out of a bar there one night.

    Okay, that's more we have in common. Though my bad old days
    of alcoholic drinking are behind me, thankfully.

    Mine pretty much are, too. Not by my choice, but my wife just
    goes crazy. I'm starting to resent that and am probably going
    to take that power away from her. Not that I want to drink all
    the time, but if I want one I don't want to fight a war over
    it.

    Yeah, I can see how that would suck. I still think a cold beer on
    a hot day is one of the best things ever. Only problem is that
    for me it would never be just one. The old AA saying has it
    right, "One is too many, and a thousand is never enough."

    --
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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Tue Jul 8 16:54:42 2025
    On 7/8/2025 10:30 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 15:07:38 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 7:58 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:31:09 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my
    looking at where you always ended up. ;-)

    LOL no For whatever reason, it just doesn't interest me that
    much. Though I do like seeing the water.

    I used to fish a lot more than I do now. Just always seems
    like there is something else I should do. Doesn't help that
    the wife doesn't fish, but she at least used to go sit along
    the shore and read. We haven't done that in two years for some
    reason. I also do love to eat fish while camping. Stayed up
    at Lake Koshkenong in Wisconsin and we'd get lots of catfish,
    walleye, and largemouth. I really do enjoy fried catfish, some
    fried potatoes, and beans.

    Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some fish--great eating! I just
    don't care to take the trouble to coax them out of the water.

    It's always better if you actually catch something, too.
    I got a feeling with that until I get the knee worked on I'll be doing a
    little more fishing in the future. I don't know how that works out with
    the wife wanting to hike, and I'm not keen on her going off in the
    wilderness by herself. Probably get a new knee late this fall and try
    to be back in the game by next year.

    week to move back to Nebraska (we lived there until 1997 when
    we moved to Indiana for my career). Now that I'm retired,
    we're going home. As a plus, it'll be a shorter drive to the
    Rockies and the Southwest. :)

    Wow, that's big. Congratulations. Indiana is not a bad place
    to live, but Nebraska is better, and cuts off a whole day
    getting west. That is one of the big problems with where we
    live in Illinois. Takes at least two days, usually 3, to get
    to where we want to be.

    Thanks! And for me, it cuts off two days, given my 60 mph upper
    towing limit and slightly greater distance.

    We're excited about getting back there. One gripe: until we get
    the cars licensed there we would have to pay out of state fees for
    a state parks pass. So that's one to do item that'll have to
    wait.

    I just bought two passes for Wisconsin. One for the pickup and one for
    the RV. $38 for the first and $20 for the second. Like fishing
    licenses, I don't mind paying for these as the money goes to good
    things. If I use them fine, if not, no biggie.

    ...I got throwed out of a bar there one night.

    Okay, that's more we have in common. Though my bad old days
    of alcoholic drinking are behind me, thankfully.

    Mine pretty much are, too. Not by my choice, but my wife just
    goes crazy. I'm starting to resent that and am probably going
    to take that power away from her. Not that I want to drink all
    the time, but if I want one I don't want to fight a war over
    it.

    Yeah, I can see how that would suck. I still think a cold beer on
    a hot day is one of the best things ever. Only problem is that
    for me it would never be just one. The old AA saying has it
    right, "One is too many, and a thousand is never enough."

    Out in Utah that feeling of resentment bothered me. After several miles
    and the knee starting to swell up and become painful walking, it seemed
    all I could think of was how good it would be to finish up, get back and
    be able to sit and have about 2 beers and feel the pain lessen. That's
    when I decided I was going to take back my rights to choose how I live.
    I totally understand I am a person who likes it perhaps more than
    "normal" people, but things have certainly changed. I simply have no
    desire to party like I used to. I actually prefer to drink by myself,
    to be honest. 2-3 beers is just about right. 20 years ago, that was
    not the case.


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  • From George.Anthony@21:1/5 to sticks on Wed Jul 9 16:37:47 2025
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 10:30 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Mon, 7 Jul 2025 15:07:38 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/4/2025 7:58 AM, Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 2 Jul 2025 15:31:09 -0500,
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:

    You'd think you planned this trip with fishing in my
    looking at where you always ended up. ;-)

    LOL no For whatever reason, it just doesn't interest me that
    much. Though I do like seeing the water.

    I used to fish a lot more than I do now. Just always seems
    like there is something else I should do. Doesn't help that
    the wife doesn't fish, but she at least used to go sit along
    the shore and read. We haven't done that in two years for some
    reason. I also do love to eat fish while camping. Stayed up
    at Lake Koshkenong in Wisconsin and we'd get lots of catfish,
    walleye, and largemouth. I really do enjoy fried catfish, some
    fried potatoes, and beans.

    Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some fish--great eating! I just
    don't care to take the trouble to coax them out of the water.

    It's always better if you actually catch something, too.
    I got a feeling with that until I get the knee worked on I'll be doing a little more fishing in the future. I don't know how that works out with
    the wife wanting to hike, and I'm not keen on her going off in the
    wilderness by herself. Probably get a new knee late this fall and try
    to be back in the game by next year.

    week to move back to Nebraska (we lived there until 1997 when
    we moved to Indiana for my career). Now that I'm retired,
    we're going home. As a plus, it'll be a shorter drive to the
    Rockies and the Southwest. :)

    Wow, that's big. Congratulations. Indiana is not a bad place
    to live, but Nebraska is better, and cuts off a whole day
    getting west. That is one of the big problems with where we
    live in Illinois. Takes at least two days, usually 3, to get
    to where we want to be.

    Thanks! And for me, it cuts off two days, given my 60 mph upper
    towing limit and slightly greater distance.

    We're excited about getting back there. One gripe: until we get
    the cars licensed there we would have to pay out of state fees for
    a state parks pass. So that's one to do item that'll have to
    wait.

    I just bought two passes for Wisconsin. One for the pickup and one for
    the RV. $38 for the first and $20 for the second. Like fishing
    licenses, I don't mind paying for these as the money goes to good
    things. If I use them fine, if not, no biggie.

    ...I got throwed out of a bar there one night.

    Okay, that's more we have in common. Though my bad old days
    of alcoholic drinking are behind me, thankfully.

    Mine pretty much are, too. Not by my choice, but my wife just
    goes crazy. I'm starting to resent that and am probably going
    to take that power away from her. Not that I want to drink all
    the time, but if I want one I don't want to fight a war over
    it.

    Yeah, I can see how that would suck. I still think a cold beer on
    a hot day is one of the best things ever. Only problem is that
    for me it would never be just one. The old AA saying has it
    right, "One is too many, and a thousand is never enough."

    Out in Utah that feeling of resentment bothered me. After several miles
    and the knee starting to swell up and become painful walking, it seemed
    all I could think of was how good it would be to finish up, get back and
    be able to sit and have about 2 beers and feel the pain lessen. That's
    when I decided I was going to take back my rights to choose how I live.
    I totally understand I am a person who likes it perhaps more than
    "normal" people, but things have certainly changed. I simply have no
    desire to party like I used to. I actually prefer to drink by myself,
    to be honest. 2-3 beers is just about right. 20 years ago, that was
    not the case.



    A twelve pack a year is about my maximum beer consumption rate and that’s just one beer at a sitting. I do have a shot or two of bourbon a few times
    a year. I remember too vividly what hangovers feel like and I am
    completely over that.

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  • From Ted Heise@21:1/5 to George.Anthony on Wed Jul 9 20:08:39 2025
    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 16:37:47 -0000 (UTC),
    George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 10:30 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some fish--great eating! I
    just don't care to take the trouble to coax them out of the
    water.

    It's always better if you actually catch something, too. I got
    a feeling with that until I get the knee worked on I'll be
    doing a little more fishing in the future. I don't know how
    that works out with the wife wanting to hike, and I'm not keen
    on her going off in the wilderness by herself. Probably get a
    new knee late this fall and try to be back in the game by next
    year.

    Hope it works out as well as possible!



    Out in Utah that feeling of resentment bothered me. After
    several miles and the knee starting to swell up and become
    painful walking, it seemed all I could think of was how good
    it would be to finish up, get back and be able to sit and have
    about 2 beers and feel the pain lessen. That's when I decided
    I was going to take back my rights to choose how I live. I
    totally understand I am a person who likes it perhaps more
    than "normal" people, but things have certainly changed. I
    simply have no desire to party like I used to. I actually
    prefer to drink by myself, to be honest. 2-3 beers is just
    about right. 20 years ago, that was not the case.

    A twelve pack a year is about my maximum beer consumption rate
    and that’s just one beer at a sitting. I do have a shot or two
    of bourbon a few times a year. I remember too vividly what
    hangovers feel like and I am completely over that.

    Sounds pretty healthy, in both cases.

    --
    Ted Heise <theise@panix.com> West Lafayette, IN, USA

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  • From bfh@21:1/5 to Ted Heise on Wed Jul 9 17:45:40 2025
    Ted Heise wrote:
    On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 16:37:47 -0000 (UTC),
    George.Anthony <ganthony@gmail.net> wrote:
    sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> wrote:
    On 7/8/2025 10:30 AM, Ted Heise wrote:

    Oh don't get me wrong, I love me some fish--great eating! I
    just don't care to take the trouble to coax them out of the
    water.

    It's always better if you actually catch something, too. I got
    a feeling with that until I get the knee worked on I'll be
    doing a little more fishing in the future. I don't know how
    that works out with the wife wanting to hike, and I'm not keen
    on her going off in the wilderness by herself. Probably get a
    new knee late this fall and try to be back in the game by next
    year.

    Hope it works out as well as possible!

    Check the label before they put you under. Make sure it's not a
    Mercedes knee.

    Out in Utah that feeling of resentment bothered me. After
    several miles and the knee starting to swell up and become
    painful walking, it seemed all I could think of was how good
    it would be to finish up, get back and be able to sit and have
    about 2 beers and feel the pain lessen. That's when I decided
    I was going to take back my rights to choose how I live. I
    totally understand I am a person who likes it perhaps more
    than "normal" people, but things have certainly changed. I
    simply have no desire to party like I used to. I actually
    prefer to drink by myself, to be honest. 2-3 beers is just
    about right. 20 years ago, that was not the case.

    A twelve pack a year is about my maximum beer consumption rate
    and that’s just one beer at a sitting. I do have a shot or two
    of bourbon a few times a year. I remember too vividly what
    hangovers feel like and I am completely over that.

    Sounds pretty healthy, in both cases.



    --
    bill
    Theory don't mean squat if it don't work.

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  • From sticks@21:1/5 to bfh on Wed Jul 9 18:36:14 2025
    On 7/9/2025 4:45 PM, bfh wrote:
    Probably get a
    new knee late this fall and try to be back in the game by next
    year.

    Hope it works out as well as possible!

    Check the label before they put you under. Make sure it's not a Mercedes knee.

    You got that right. I got Mercedes shoulders, but I want a Caterpillar
    knee!

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