• Re: How the ICC case against Israeli leaders was made possible

    From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 13:42:13 2024
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    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime
    Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside
    three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which
    Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the
    outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking.

    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years.

    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014,
    which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that
    same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law
    could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court
    only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s
    membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, senior
    researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel
    committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of
    Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible
    transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal
    for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank
    and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has
    been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem
    disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a prosecution of
    every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,”
    Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the
    ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out
    that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground
    is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014.

    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized,
    so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian
    says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being
    conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society
    and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many
    Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders,
    which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to
    prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and
    intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last
    week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome
    Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into
    potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current
    chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on Palestine’s
    file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in
    2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian indicates.
    “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the Palestinian
    Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its >> petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized as a
    state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as
    Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the
    Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands of the
    occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic
    officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s
    legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the
    scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central
    part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We
    constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine
    joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy
    for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It
    has already declared seven Palestinian civil society organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human rights
    organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah
    and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning
    the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a
    larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be
    above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s crimes >> passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



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  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Wed May 29 16:45:58 2024
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    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime
    Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside
    three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which
    Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the
    outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking.

    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years.

    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014,
    which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that
    same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law
    could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court
    only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s
    membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, senior >>> researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel
    committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of
    Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible
    transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal
    for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank
    and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has
    been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem
    disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a prosecution of >>> every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,”
    Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the
    ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out
    that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground
    is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014.

    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized,
    so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian
    says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being
    conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society
    and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many
    Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders,
    which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to
    prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and
    intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last
    week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome
    Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into
    potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current
    chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on Palestine’s >>> file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in
    2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian indicates.
    “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the Palestinian >>> Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its >>> petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized as a
    state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as
    Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the
    Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands of the >>> occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic
    officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s
    legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the
    scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central
    part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We
    constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine
    joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy
    for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It
    has already declared seven Palestinian civil society organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human rights >>> organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah
    and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning
    the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a
    larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be
    above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s crimes >>> passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 14:13:23 2024
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    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime >>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside
    three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which
    Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal Court >>>> (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the
    outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking.

    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years.

    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014,
    which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that
    same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of prosecutions >>>> over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian territories. >>>> But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law
    could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court
    only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s
    membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during major >>>> events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, senior >>>> researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel
    committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of
    Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible
    transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal
    for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank
    and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has
    been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>> disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a prosecution of >>>> every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,”
    Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the ICC. For >>>> five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the
    ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out
    that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground
    is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014.

    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian >>>> says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being
    conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society
    and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many
    Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders,
    which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to >>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and
    intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last
    week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in previous >>>> years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome
    Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into
    potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current
    chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on Palestine’s >>>> file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in
    2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure from >>>> several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian indicates. >>>> “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the Palestinian >>>> Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to join the >>>> Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its >>>> petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized as a >>>> state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as >>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the
    Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands of the >>>> occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous occasions, >>>> Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European countries and >>>> the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and increase aid >>>> in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic >>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s >>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the
    scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central
    part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging the PA >>>> to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We >>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine
    joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy
    for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human rights >>>> organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah
    and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning
    the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a >>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be
    above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s crimes >>>> passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


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  • From Brennus@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 21:33:26 2024
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    NefeshBarYochai <void@invalid.noy> wrote in news:in3f5jpdcjkam4t3r2ddcr9itpamd81omj@4ax.com:

    You're a stupid asshole. Go away. LOL!

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  • From Brennus@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 29 21:32:49 2024
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    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw

    Says janet whore, a lame brain imbecile who washed out of ROTC. LMAO!

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Thu May 30 04:19:23 2024
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    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime >>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside >>>>> three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which
    Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal Court >>>>> (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the >>>>> outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that the >>>>> wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking.

    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human rights >>>>> groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years.

    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014,
    which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that
    same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of prosecutions >>>>> over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian territories. >>>>> But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law
    could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case for >>>>> Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court
    only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s
    membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during major >>>>> events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, senior >>>>> researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel
    committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of >>>>> Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible
    transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal >>>>> for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank
    and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has
    been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>>> disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a prosecution of >>>>> every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,” >>>>> Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant given >>>>> the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the ICC. For >>>>> five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the >>>>> ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out
    that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told Palestinian >>>>> jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground >>>>> is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014.

    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for the >>>>> ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian >>>>> says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being >>>>> conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society >>>>> and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many
    Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders,
    which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to >>>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and
    intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last >>>>> week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in previous >>>>> years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome
    Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into
    potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current >>>>> chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on Palestine’s >>>>> file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in
    2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure from >>>>> several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian indicates. >>>>> “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the Palestinian >>>>> Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to join the >>>>> Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its
    petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized as a >>>>> state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the coming >>>>> months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as >>>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if arrest >>>>> warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the
    Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel collects as >>>>> part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands of the >>>>> occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous occasions, >>>>> Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European countries and >>>>> the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and increase aid >>>>> in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic >>>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are insisting >>>>> on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s >>>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the >>>>> scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central
    part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the violation of >>>>> Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging the PA >>>>> to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations and >>>>> preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We >>>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine >>>>> joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy
    for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society organizations as >>>>> “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human rights >>>>> organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC case. >>>>> In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah >>>>> and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning
    the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a >>>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be >>>>> above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s crimes
    passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw


    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY LOL

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 07:02:13 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime >>>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside >>>>>> three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which >>>>>> Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal
    Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the >>>>>> outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that
    the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking. >>>>>>
    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human
    rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years. >>>>>>
    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014, >>>>>> which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that >>>>>> same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of
    prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian
    territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law >>>>>> could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case
    for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court >>>>>> only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s >>>>>> membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during
    major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian,
    senior
    researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel >>>>>> committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of >>>>>> Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible >>>>>> transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal >>>>>> for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank >>>>>> and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has >>>>>> been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>>>> disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a
    prosecution of
    every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,” >>>>>> Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant
    given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the
    ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the >>>>>> ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out >>>>>> that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told
    Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground >>>>>> is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014. >>>>>>
    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for
    the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian >>>>>> says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being >>>>>> conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society >>>>>> and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many >>>>>> Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders, >>>>>> which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to >>>>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and
    intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last >>>>>> week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in
    previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome >>>>>> Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into >>>>>> potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current >>>>>> chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on
    Palestine’s
    file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in >>>>>> 2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure
    from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian
    indicates.
    “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the
    Palestinian
    Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to
    join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its
    petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized >>>>>> as a
    state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the
    coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as >>>>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if
    arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the >>>>>> Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel
    collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands
    of the
    occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous
    occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European
    countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and
    increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic >>>>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are
    insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s >>>>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the >>>>>> scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central >>>>>> part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the
    violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging
    the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations
    and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We >>>>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine >>>>>> joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy >>>>>> for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society
    organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human >>>>>> rights
    organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC
    case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah >>>>>> and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning >>>>>> the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a >>>>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be >>>>>> above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s >>>>>> crimes
    passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw


    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym.  What a dork, lol.

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  • From Brennus@21:1/5 to pursent100@gmail.com on Thu May 30 15:24:55 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in news:tVidnYOEZNfrCcX7nZ2dnZfqn_GdnZ2d@giganews.com:



    the lonely fat kid


    Yeah, you sure are, fat dave aka pissant.

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  • From %@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 13:16:19 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics, alt.checkmate

    Fat Dave Keeting AKA % wrote:
    the lonely fat kid


    https://imgur.com/a/UXzxN8a yay

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  • From %@21:1/5 to Janithor on Thu May 30 13:17:10 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime >>>>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside >>>>>>> three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which >>>>>>> Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law. >>>>>>>
      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal >>>>>>> Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the >>>>>>> outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that >>>>>>> the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking. >>>>>>>
    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human
    rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years. >>>>>>>
    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli >>>>>>> crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014, >>>>>>> which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that >>>>>>> same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of
    prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian
    territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law >>>>>>> could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case >>>>>>> for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court >>>>>>> only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s >>>>>>> membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during >>>>>>> major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, >>>>>>> senior
    researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel >>>>>>> committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of >>>>>>> Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building, >>>>>>> confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible >>>>>>> transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal >>>>>>> for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank >>>>>>> and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has >>>>>>> been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>>>>> disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a
    prosecution of
    every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,” >>>>>>> Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant
    given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the
    ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the >>>>>>> ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out >>>>>>> that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told
    Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court >>>>>>> decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground >>>>>>> is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014. >>>>>>>
    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian >>>>>>> explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>>>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for >>>>>>> the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian >>>>>>> says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a >>>>>>> disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being >>>>>>> conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society >>>>>>> and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many >>>>>>> Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders, >>>>>>> which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to >>>>>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and >>>>>>> intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last >>>>>>> week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in
    previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome >>>>>>> Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to >>>>>>> appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor >>>>>>> Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into >>>>>>> potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current >>>>>>> chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on
    Palestine’s
    file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in >>>>>>> 2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the >>>>>>> Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure >>>>>>> from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian
    indicates.
    “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the
    Palestinian
    Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to
    join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand >>>>>>> down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its
    petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized >>>>>>> as a
    state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the
    coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as >>>>>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if
    arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the >>>>>>> Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of >>>>>>> customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel
    collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s >>>>>>> budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands >>>>>>> of the
    occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous
    occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European
    countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and
    increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic >>>>>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are
    insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s >>>>>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the >>>>>>> scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central >>>>>>> part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the
    violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging >>>>>>> the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations >>>>>>> and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We >>>>>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine >>>>>>> joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy >>>>>>> for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>>>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society
    organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human >>>>>>> rights
    organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC
    case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah >>>>>>> and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning >>>>>>> the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a >>>>>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be >>>>>>> above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s >>>>>>> crimes
    passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds. >>>>>>>

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw


    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym.  What a dork,
    lol.


    makes you whine like a little bitch, turdboi LOL

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  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 11:50:36 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 10:17 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:

    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym.  What a
    dork, lol.


    makes you whine like a little bitch, turdboi   LOL

    If by whine you mean laffing at you, then yes.

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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to Janithor on Thu May 30 14:48:35 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime >>>>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside >>>>>>> three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which >>>>>>> Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law. >>>>>>>
      Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal >>>>>>> Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the >>>>>>> outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that >>>>>>> the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking. >>>>>>>
    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human
    rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years. >>>>>>>
    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli >>>>>>> crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014, >>>>>>> which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that >>>>>>> same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of
    prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian
    territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law >>>>>>> could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case >>>>>>> for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court >>>>>>> only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s >>>>>>> membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during >>>>>>> major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, >>>>>>> senior
    researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel >>>>>>> committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of >>>>>>> Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building, >>>>>>> confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible >>>>>>> transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal >>>>>>> for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank >>>>>>> and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has >>>>>>> been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>>>>> disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a
    prosecution of
    every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,” >>>>>>> Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant
    given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the
    ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the >>>>>>> ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out >>>>>>> that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told
    Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court >>>>>>> decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground >>>>>>> is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014. >>>>>>>
    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian >>>>>>> explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>>>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for >>>>>>> the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian >>>>>>> says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a >>>>>>> disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being >>>>>>> conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society >>>>>>> and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many >>>>>>> Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders, >>>>>>> which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to >>>>>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and >>>>>>> intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last >>>>>>> week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in
    previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome >>>>>>> Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to >>>>>>> appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor >>>>>>> Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into >>>>>>> potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current >>>>>>> chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on
    Palestine’s
    file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in >>>>>>> 2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the >>>>>>> Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure >>>>>>> from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian
    indicates.
    “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the
    Palestinian
    Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to
    join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand >>>>>>> down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its
    petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized >>>>>>> as a
    state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the
    coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as >>>>>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if
    arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the >>>>>>> Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of >>>>>>> customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel
    collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s >>>>>>> budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands >>>>>>> of the
    occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous
    occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European
    countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and
    increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic >>>>>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are
    insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s >>>>>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the >>>>>>> scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central >>>>>>> part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the
    violation of
    Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging >>>>>>> the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations >>>>>>> and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We >>>>>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine >>>>>>> joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy >>>>>>> for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>>>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society
    organizations as
    “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human >>>>>>> rights
    organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC
    case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah >>>>>>> and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning >>>>>>> the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a >>>>>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be >>>>>>> above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s >>>>>>> crimes
    passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds. >>>>>>>

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics.  :-)


    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw


    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym.  What a dork,
    lol.

    He's just saying that you won't get no warm milk here to make you sleep.
    We might give you some whole milk or maybe some condensed milk that
    will gather fat all over your heart like the bomb. We care about not
    caring about you. When you go through the mass to become an elder god
    in alt.slack, they'll open the door to the bedroom and you'll feel the
    bullet in the back of your skull before we even pull the trigger. I'm
    not saying I'm the one that's gonna get you, but there's a raucous in
    the caucus and we can't have freeloader hitchhikers in here showing off
    the handle of their plungers.

    Policy.

    Many of the players are horned demons here in te arboretum. Real
    business goes on here between the mollycoddling of trolls. Your
    monopolization of resources for the purpose of passing judgment on
    certain long bearded freaks has not gone unnoticed. Apologize for all
    that you've done and burn off a hand. When that is completed, your
    devotion will be recognized. I have a dollar now and two more coming
    for some of that wheat.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From dolf@21:1/5 to NefeshBarYochai on Fri May 31 05:29:21 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    The elements of BOER WAR, BEERSHEBA, undermining the PROTESTANT
    REFORMATION / SOVEREIGNTY, evading fascist paradigm equivalence and
    demise of the ottoman empire ought to be a clue to confederacy of
    criminality which is IRELAND , SOUTH AFRICA, SPAIN, NORWAY and TURKEY's diatribe on the GAZA / ISRAEL conflict.

    That the BEERSHEBA MENTION occurs 2 days before the BALFOUR DECLARATION
    of 2 NOVEMBER 1917. The BATTLE OF BEERSHEBA and the charge of the light
    horse brigade took place upon 31 OCTOBER 1917 during the third BATTLE OF
    GAZA in Palestine. It was a pivotal moment in the Sinai and Palestine
    campaign during World War I. One year later on 30 OCTOBER 1918 the
    Armistice of Mudros ended conflict between the OTTOMAN EMPIRE and the
    Allies.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration>

    In my reasonable view the HAMAS / ISRAEL CONFLICT which is consequential
    to 7 OCTOBER 2023 by action of TERRORISM has an UNDERLYING PARADIGM
    (evasion of equivalence to NAZISM) FOR ITS HOSTILITY which I have fully disclosed as a #306 - SNARE / PERFIDIOUS ALBION PARADIGM is then a means
    for sustaining the BALFOUR DECLARATION from the context of a defeat to
    the OTTOMAN EMPIRE against the COLONIAL might of the BRITISH EMPIRE.

    #1305 - MALE CHECKSUM TOTAL: #114 as [#5, #400, #100, #800] /
    #1534 as [#5, #400, #100, #9, #200, #20, #800] = heurískō (G2147): *TO* *FIND* *BY* *ENQUIRY*, *THOUGHT*, *EXAMINATION*, *SCRUTINY*,
    *OBSERVATION*, *TO* *FIND* *OUT* *BY* *PRACTICE* *AND* *EXPERIENCE*;

    G2147@{
    ...
    Male: #280 - *BEERSHEBA* *COMMEMORATION* 28 OCTOBER 2017; Feme: #238
    } // #1534

    #47 - ONTIC CHECKSUM TOTAL: #86 as [#6, #10, #1, #30] = ʼâlâh (H422): {UMBRA: #36 % #41 = #36} 1) to swear, curse; 1a) (Qal); 1a1) *TO*
    *SWEAR*, *TAKE* *AN* *OATH* (*BEFORE* *GOD*); 1a2) to curse; 1b)
    (Hiphil); 1b1) to put under oath, adjure; 1b2) to put under a curse;

    DEME CHECKSUM TOTAL: #328 - LAST TABLE TALK IDEA

    HETEROS PROTOTYPE #SIX (#114 - *EUREKA* / #342) AS VORTEX:
    (figuratively) Anything that involves constant violent or chaotic
    activity [#306 - PERFIDE ALBION / #336 - *EUREKA* ON 3 DECEMBER 1854 / ARMISTICE DAY 11 NOVEMBER] around some centre [#38 - FULLNESS / #238 -
    EUREKA].

    #46 #6 #62
    #54 #38 #22
    #14 #70 #30

    #70
    #116
    #138 - BOER WAR MEMORIAL (#297 / #308) INFIDELITY ON SUNDAY 26 MAY 2024
    #200
    #238 - *EUREKA* / #38 - FULLNESS (SHENG: #489) 8 JUNE 2017
    #252
    #306 - PERFIDE ALBION FROM REDUCTIO AD HITLERUM TABLE TALK IDEA #306 ON
    31 AUGUST 1942
    #336 - *EUREKA* ON 3 DECEMBER 1854 / ARMISTICE DAY 11 NOVEMBER
    #342

    COURSE OF NATURE PARADIGM #65 - INNER (NEI) / H54 - MARRIAGEABLE MAIDEN, CONVERTING THE MAIDEN / As the only instance of #511 <-- @SUM(TETRAD
    MENTIONS OF [rì (日): *SUN* / *JAPAN*])

    #57 #56 #49
    #66 #65 #58
    #75 #74 #67

    #74
    #131
    #189
    #238
    #303 = *OAK* TREE PLANTING of 27 OCTOBER 1934  / PRIOR TO WWII
    CENTENNIAL AN IMPROPER BOER WAR MEMORIAL 27 OCTOBER 2018
    #378 = sýnchysis (G4799): {UMBRA: #2013 % #41 = #4} 1) confusion, disturbance; 1a) of *RIOTOUS* *PERSONS*;
    #444
    #511 <-- @SUM(TETRAD MENTIONS OF [rì (日): *SUN* / *JAPAN*])
    #567

    The song called "Foggy Dew" was written and first published late in 1919
    by Fr (later Canon) Charles O’Neill (1887–1963) from Portglenone, County Antrim, a priest of the Diocese of Down and Connor who was then a curate
    at St. Peter's Cathedral, Belfast, and later in life was parish priest
    of Kilcoo and later Newcastle, County Down. O'Neill was ordained in St. Patrick's College, Maynooth in 1912.

    <http://www.grapple369.com/Groundwork/Irish%20Claims%20of%20Perfide%20Albion%20Against%20Dutch%20Rights.pdf>

    On 30/5/2024 06:28, NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside
    three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which
    Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being
    confronted judicially for their violations of international law.

    Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent exposé by The Guardian, the
    outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking.

    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years.

    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli
    crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014,
    which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that
    same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law
    could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally
    recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court
    only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country’s membership.

    “We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during major events that extend beyond the current genocide,” Tahseen Alian, senior researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. “We’ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel
    committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the
    killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of
    Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building,
    confiscation of land, and population transfer — both the forcible
    transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of
    Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.”

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it’s illegal
    for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in
    occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank
    and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has
    been ongoing since 1967.

    “The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem disappointing to some, but it’s very difficult to see a prosecution of every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,”
    Alian said. “But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.”

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the
    ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out
    that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court
    decided to investigate Palestine’s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground
    is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014.

    “These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,” Alian
    explains. “And the entire international legal system is politicized,
    so the political moment is important for any legal move.”

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for the
    ICC case to move forward.

    “A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,” Alian
    says. “This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a
    disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society
    and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.”

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many
    Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders,
    which made it easier for it to claim to be “fair” when it chose to prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan’s announcement last
    week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome
    Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to
    appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor
    Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into
    potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda’s successor and current
    chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on Palestine’s file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in
    2021.

    “Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the
    Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure from several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,” Alian indicates. “This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the Palestinian Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand
    down.”

    “Palestine did not stand down,” Alian adds. “But the ICC refused its petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn’t recognized as a state.”

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor’s announcement, and as
    Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if arrest warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures
    against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of
    customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA’s
    budget).

    “This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands of the occupation,” Alian points out, explaining that in previous occasions, Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. “So far, the PA’s diplomatic officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.”

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine’s
    legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the
    scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central
    part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the violation of Palestinians’ human rights, according to Alian.

    “Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations and preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,” he says. “We constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine
    joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the
    conferences of member countries.”

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy
    for moving forward Palestine’s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It
    has already declared seven Palestinian civil society organizations as “terrorist” organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human rights organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah
    and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning
    the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel’s reaction, Alian says, “the move is part of a larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be
    above international law.”

    “Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel’s crimes passing by without being legally challenged are over,” he adds.


    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



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  • From Brennus@21:1/5 to Skeeter on Thu May 30 22:05:15 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    Skeeter <skeeterweed@photonmail.com> wrote in news:6658f678$0$2422111$882e4bbb@reader.netnews.com:



    I( still own this place.

    I give it a fiver. lMAO

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  • From Skeeter@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 30 15:58:15 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    In article <lbs3gjFfdlbU1@mid.individual.net>, lnlarson@stoat.inhoin.edu says...

    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:45 PM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/29/2024 1:32 PM, % wrote:
    NefeshBarYochai wrote:
    The request for international arrest warrants against Israel?s Prime >>>>>>> Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and war minister Yoav Gallant, alongside >>>>>>> three Hamas leaders, came as a surprise to many, not least of which >>>>>>> Israel. For what was likely a first, its top leaders were being >>>>>>> confronted judicially for their violations of international law. >>>>>>>
    Although Israel had been spying on the International Criminal >>>>>>> Court
    (ICC) for years, as revealed in a recent expos by The Guardian, the >>>>>>> outrage Netanyahu displayed betrayed indignation at the fact that >>>>>>> the
    wall of impunity for Israeli leaders was showing signs of cracking. >>>>>>>
    For Palestinians, the news was long-awaited. Palestinian human >>>>>>> rights
    groups have been tirelessly campaigning for such a move for years. >>>>>>>
    The door was opened for an investigation to take place of Israeli >>>>>>> crimes when Palestine first signed on to the Rome Statute in 2014, >>>>>>> which is constituent of the ICC. Israel refrained from signing that >>>>>>> same Statute in 2002 due to fears of being the subject of
    prosecutions
    over the illegal status of its settlements in Palestinian
    territories.
    But when Palestine joined, Israeli violations of international law >>>>>>> could be prosecuted because they took place on internationally >>>>>>> recognized Palestinian land.

    Palestinian and international jurists have been building the case >>>>>>> for
    Israeli crimes that have been committed after 2014, since the court >>>>>>> only investigates crimes committed during the time of a country?s >>>>>>> membership.

    ?We have been submitting documentation of Israeli crimes during >>>>>>> major
    events that extend beyond the current genocide,? Tahseen Alian, >>>>>>> senior
    researcher at the Palestinian human rights group Al-Haq, told
    Mondoweiss. ?We?ve made this case at the ICC over crimes Israel >>>>>>> committed in military assaults on Gaza in 2014 and 2021, in the >>>>>>> killing and maiming of peaceful protesters during the Great March of >>>>>>> Return in 2019 and 2020, and in the ongoing settlement building, >>>>>>> confiscation of land, and population transfer ? both the forcible >>>>>>> transfer of Palestinians out of their lands and the transfer of >>>>>>> Israelis into settlements in the West Bank.?

    Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention states that it?s illegal >>>>>>> for an occupying power to transfer its own civilians to live in >>>>>>> occupied territory, making all Israeli settlements in the West Bank >>>>>>> and East Jerusalem illegal and amounting to a war crime, which has >>>>>>> been ongoing since 1967.

    ?The fact that the ICC focused only on the current period might seem >>>>>>> disappointing to some, but it?s very difficult to see a
    prosecution of
    every Israeli crime and every Israeli official implicated at once,? >>>>>>> Alian said. ?But this is a start. It is the beginning of
    accountability for the occupation in an unprecedented way.?

    The request for the arrest warrants is particularly significant >>>>>>> given
    the long and difficult process of Palestinian advocacy at the
    ICC. For
    five years after joining the Rome Statute, Palestinians demanded the >>>>>>> ICC to open an investigation into Israeli crimes. Alian points out >>>>>>> that in private meetings, representatives of the ICC told
    Palestinian
    jurists that they would need to wait many years before the court >>>>>>> decided to investigate Palestine?s case.

    A legal field riddled with political landmines
    The fact that this ICC case has even been able to get off the ground >>>>>>> is due to a confluence of factors that have not existed since 2014. >>>>>>>
    ?These legal procedures are intertwined with politics,? Alian
    explains. ?And the entire international legal system is politicized, >>>>>>> so the political moment is important for any legal move.?

    Changes in the political context, therefore, are what allowed for >>>>>>> the
    ICC case to move forward.

    ?A political moment was created in which the ICC could act,? Alian >>>>>>> says. ?This includes the fact that, at this moment, there is a >>>>>>> disagreement between Israel and the U.S. on the way the war is being >>>>>>> conducted, and there is intense pressure from within Israeli society >>>>>>> and the Israeli political class on Netanyahu.?

    Alian adds that the fact that the October 7 attacks caused so many >>>>>>> Israeli casualties enabled the ICC to also prosecute Hamas leaders, >>>>>>> which made it easier for it to claim to be ?fair? when it chose to >>>>>>> prosecute Israeli leaders. This, in addition to U.S.-Israeli and >>>>>>> intra-Israeli conflict, is what made Karim Khan?s announcement last >>>>>>> week possible. But had the groundwork for it not been laid in
    previous
    years, it might not have materialized.

    Even though that groundwork started after Palestine joined the Rome >>>>>>> Statute, the first breakthrough for Palestine at the ICC began to >>>>>>> appear four years ago in December 2019. Then-ICC Chief Prosecutor >>>>>>> Fatou Bensouda announced the opening of a formal investigation into >>>>>>> potential war crimes in Palestine. Bensouda?s successor and current >>>>>>> chief prosecutor, Karim Khan, delayed the investigation on
    Palestine?s
    file, moving it down the priority list ever since he took office in >>>>>>> 2021.

    ?Karim Khan gave the impression that he was uninterested in the >>>>>>> Palestine file, but we know that the ICC came under huge pressure >>>>>>> from
    several countries to avoid investigating Palestine,? Alian
    indicates.
    ?This pressure has always been there, and was faced by the
    Palestinian
    Authority, too, since 2009, when Palestine first requested to
    join the
    Rome Statute and faced pressure from European countries to stand >>>>>>> down.?

    ?Palestine did not stand down,? Alian adds. ?But the ICC refused its >>>>>>> petition to join on the grounds that Palestine wasn?t recognized >>>>>>> as a
    state.?

    That same pressure continues and may, in fact, increase in the >>>>>>> coming
    months. In the days before the ICC prosecutor?s announcement, and as >>>>>>> Israel braced for the move, Israel told U.S. officials that if >>>>>>> arrest
    warrants were issued against its leaders, Israel would consider the >>>>>>> Palestinian Authority responsible and take retaliatory measures >>>>>>> against it. These measures would include the complete freezing of >>>>>>> customs money belonging to the PA (on whose behalf Israel
    collects as
    part of the Oslo Accords, representing at least 61% of the PA?s >>>>>>> budget).

    ?This has always been a tool of political pressure in the hands >>>>>>> of the
    occupation,? Alian points out, explaining that in previous
    occasions,
    Israel would choke the PA financially, and then European
    countries and
    the U.S. would offer the PA to reanimate negotiations and
    increase aid
    in exchange for dropping a legal case. ?So far, the PA?s diplomatic >>>>>>> officials and legal experts have all affirmed that they are
    insisting
    on going all the way at ICC.?

    Since the PA is the signatory to the Rome Statute, it is Palestine?s >>>>>>> legal representative before member states of the ICC. But behind the >>>>>>> scenes, Palestinian human rights organizations have been a central >>>>>>> part of the legal work to achieve accountability for the
    violation of
    Palestinians? human rights, according to Alian.

    ?Since 2009, Palestinian human rights groups began encouraging >>>>>>> the PA
    to join the Rome Statute, and we have been documenting violations >>>>>>> and
    preparing the case for the ICC for years before that,? he says. ?We >>>>>>> constantly sent notifications and reports to the ICC after Palestine >>>>>>> joined, and we engaged with the ICC directly, especially at the >>>>>>> conferences of member countries.?

    Israel has already put the human rights groups involved in advocacy >>>>>>> for moving forward Palestine?s case at the ICC in its crosshairs. It >>>>>>> has already declared seven Palestinian civil society
    organizations as
    ?terrorist? organizations, including al-Haq, the leading human >>>>>>> rights
    organization responsible for leading advocacy regarding the ICC >>>>>>> case.
    In August 2022, the Israeli army shut down their offices in Ramallah >>>>>>> and welded their doors shut, leaving behind military orders banning >>>>>>> the organizations.

    That crackdown will no longer be possible in the same way.

    Regardless of Israel?s reaction, Alian says, ?the move is part of a >>>>>>> larger global change on Palestine, in which Israel will no longer be >>>>>>> above international law.?

    ?Netanyahu may or may not be arrested, but the days of Israel?s >>>>>>> crimes
    passing by without being legally challenged are over,? he adds. >>>>>>>

    https://mondoweiss.net/2024/05/how-the-icc-case-against-israeli-leaders-was-made-possible/



    who cares what Israel does

    Hi %, welcome to aus.politics. :-)


    kiss kiss

    The smell of butthurt.

    Real % = 1
    Fake % = haw haw haw


    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym. What a dork, lol.

    He's just saying that you won't get no warm milk here to make you sleep.
    We might give you some whole milk or maybe some condensed milk that
    will gather fat all over your heart like the bomb. We care about not
    caring about you. When you go through the mass to become an elder god
    in alt.slack, they'll open the door to the bedroom and you'll feel the
    bullet in the back of your skull before we even pull the trigger. I'm
    not saying I'm the one that's gonna get you, but there's a raucous in
    the caucus and we can't have freeloader hitchhikers in here showing off
    the handle of their plungers.

    Policy.

    Many of the players are horned demons here in te arboretum. Real
    business goes on here between the mollycoddling of trolls. Your monopolization of resources for the purpose of passing judgment on
    certain long bearded freaks has not gone unnoticed. Apologize for all
    that you've done and burn off a hand. When that is completed, your
    devotion will be recognized. I have a dollar now and two more coming
    for some of that wheat.

    I( still own this place.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Lane Larson@21:1/5 to Janithor on Fri May 31 21:59:58 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 10:17 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:

    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym.  What a
    dork, lol.


    makes you whine like a little bitch, turdboi   LOL

    If by whine you mean laffing at you, then yes.

    What's the reason for your hate. Sometimes when I am laughing at
    someone, I will tell him, "I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with
    you." Softening blows like this can get you a Butterfinger blizzard.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Janithor@21:1/5 to Lane Larson on Fri May 31 20:01:46 2024
    XPost: uk.current-events.terrorism, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.slack
    XPost: aus.politics

    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/31/2024 7:59 PM, Lane Larson wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 10:17 AM, % wrote:
    Janithor wrote:
    x-no-archive: yes

    On 5/30/2024 1:19 AM, % wrote:

    go wash your hands, turdboi

    https://postimg.cc/BtVr7dxY   LOL

    You're so butthurt and obsessed you even took on his nym. What a
    dork, lol.


    makes you whine like a little bitch, turdboi   LOL

    If by whine you mean laffing at you, then yes.

    What's the reason for your hate.  Sometimes when I am laughing at
    someone, I will tell him, "I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with
    you."  Softening blows like this can get you a Butterfinger blizzard.

    No hate from me, just enjoying the game.

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