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  • The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift

    From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to All on Sat Feb 26 10:35:38 2022
    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their strength.

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Feb 26 11:34:43 2022
    On Feb 26, 2022, Ken Blake wrote
    (in article <svdodf$46i$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their strength.

    Yup!

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

    Maybe, maybe not...

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    Savageduck

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Sun Feb 27 09:34:22 2022
    On 27/02/2022 8:34 am, Savageduck wrote:
    On Feb 26, 2022, Ken Blake wrote
    (in article <svdodf$46i$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their
    strength.

    Yup!

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

    Maybe, maybe not...


    Certainly looking at all of what used to be the USSR/CCCP.

    geoff

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  • From Savageduck@21:1/5 to geoff on Sat Feb 26 14:14:07 2022
    On 2022-02-26 20:34:22 +0000, geoff said:

    On 27/02/2022 8:34 am, Savageduck wrote:
    On Feb 26, 2022, Ken Blake wrote
    (in article <svdodf$46i$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their
    strength.

    Yup!

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

    Maybe, maybe not...


    Certainly looking at all of what used to be the USSR/CCCP.

    I have a feeling that his next demand is going to be a corridor for
    access to Kaliningrad, and that means conflict with Poland and/or
    Lithuania. Both are NATO members.


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    Regards,
    Savageduck

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Savageduck on Sat Feb 26 15:47:28 2022
    On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:14:07 -0800, Savageduck wrote:

    I have a feeling that his next demand is going to be a corridor for
    access to Kaliningrad, and that means conflict with Poland and/or
    Lithuania. Both are NATO members.

    "The resolution's failure paves the way for backers to call for a swift vote
    on a similar measure in the U.N. General Assembly." https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-united-nations-kyiv-6ccba0905f1871992b93712d3585f548

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Feb 26 14:55:47 2022
    On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 12:35:53 UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their strength.

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

    1993: Bill Clinton bribes Ukraine to give up its nuclear stockpile to Russia with promises of protecting them in future.

    2005: Obama, via some nitwit scheme, forces Ukraine to give up over 50,000 rifles, missiles and hundreds of TONS of ammunition because it would promote "safety."

    2022: Joe (The Coward) Biden refuses to do anything that would upset Russia and sits back while Russia invades.

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  • From Bill W@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Sat Feb 26 17:50:21 2022
    On Feb 26, 2022, Ken Blake wrote
    (in article <svecm2$1bde$1@gioia.aioe.org>):

    On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:55:47 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote:

    1993: Bill Clinton bribes Ukraine to give up its nuclear stockpile to Russia with promises of protecting them in future.

    2005: Obama, via some nitwit scheme, forces Ukraine to give up over 50,000 rifles, missiles and hundreds of TONS of ammunition because it would promote "safety."

    2022: Joe (The Coward) Biden refuses to do anything that would upset Russia and sits back while Russia invades.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-swift/index.html EU nations announce expulsion of selected Russian banks from SWIFT

    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel certain Russian banks from SWIFT, the high-security network that connects thousands of financial institutions around the world, pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for (Russian President Vladimir) Putin."

    The statement still leaves the actual technical details -- and the specific Russian lenders that will be cut off from SWIFT -- unclear, with US and EU officials still in the midst of hammering out the final details of the action.

    And the next day when your atm doesn’t work, and your bank’s website is down, or your lights go out, guess what that means? I don’t think Putin is going to be surprised by anything, and didn’t plan ahead.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to RichA on Sat Feb 26 16:21:33 2022
    On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:55:47 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote:

    1993: Bill Clinton bribes Ukraine to give up its nuclear stockpile to Russia with promises of protecting them in future.

    2005: Obama, via some nitwit scheme, forces Ukraine to give up over 50,000 rifles, missiles and hundreds of TONS of ammunition because it would promote "safety."

    2022: Joe (The Coward) Biden refuses to do anything that would upset Russia and sits back while Russia invades.


    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-swift/index.html EU nations announce expulsion of selected Russian banks from SWIFT

    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel certain Russian banks from SWIFT, the high-security network that connects thousands of financial institutions
    around the world, pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a
    strategic failure for (Russian President Vladimir) Putin."

    The statement still leaves the actual technical details -- and the specific Russian lenders that will be cut off from SWIFT -- unclear, with US and EU officials still in the midst of hammering out the final details of the
    action.

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  • From Magani@21:1/5 to Bill W on Sat Feb 26 16:47:53 2022
    On Sunday, 27 February 2022 at 9:50:29 am UTC+10, Bill W wrote:
    On Feb 26, 2022, Ken Blake wrote
    (in article <svecm2$1bde$1...@gioia.aioe.org>):
    On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 14:55:47 -0800 (PST), RichA wrote:

    1993: Bill Clinton bribes Ukraine to give up its nuclear stockpile to Russia with promises of protecting them in future.

    2005: Obama, via some nitwit scheme, forces Ukraine to give up over 50,000
    rifles, missiles and hundreds of TONS of ammunition because it would promote "safety."

    2022: Joe (The Coward) Biden refuses to do anything that would upset Russia
    and sits back while Russia invades.

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/26/politics/biden-ukraine-russia-swift/index.html
    EU nations announce expulsion of selected Russian banks from SWIFT

    France, Germany, Italy, the United Kingdom and Canada, announced Saturday evening that they would expel certain Russian banks from SWIFT, the high-security network that connects thousands of financial institutions around the world, pledging to "collectively ensure that this war is a strategic failure for (Russian President Vladimir) Putin."

    The statement still leaves the actual technical details -- and the specific
    Russian lenders that will be cut off from SWIFT -- unclear, with US and EU officials still in the midst of hammering out the final details of the action.
    And the next day when your atm doesn’t work, and your bank’s website is down, or your lights go out, guess what that means? I don’t think Putin is going to be surprised by anything, and didn’t plan ahead.

    Like most bullies, I think Putin is just going to keep pushing little by little until someone actually stands up to him. This could well be a route to Kaliningrad (see above), then a 'buffer' along the Baltic states and into Poland, Moldova (he's
    already got Belarus), Czech Republic, etc etc.

    However, given his demented thought processes, I think that could light the fuse for something terrifying.

    A depressed and confused Magani.

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to Magani on Sat Feb 26 21:48:29 2022
    On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 16:47:53 -0800 (PST), Magani wrote:

    Like most bullies, I think Putin is just going to keep pushing
    little by little until someone actually stands up to him.

    +1

    https://thehill.com/policy/international/595997-us-allies-to-kick-certain-russia-banks-out-of-swift-banking-system
    EU to kick certain Russian banks out of SWIFT banking system

    "European allies agreed to cut Russia out of access to the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT), a rapid shift from just days ago when it appeared such a move was unlikely in the near future.

    The U.S. and European nations also committed to imposing measures to prevent the Russian Central Bank from using its reserves to undermine sanctions and boost the ruble."

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to RichA on Mon Feb 28 09:20:17 2022
    On 27/02/2022 11:55 am, RichA wrote:
    On Saturday, 26 February 2022 at 12:35:53 UTC-5, Ken Blake wrote:
    The weak West should kick Russia out of Swift right now and prove their
    strength.

    Otherwise Putin will take over all of eastern europe.

    1993: Bill Clinton bribes Ukraine to give up its nuclear stockpile to Russia with promises of protecting them in future.

    2005: Obama, via some nitwit scheme, forces Ukraine to give up over 50,000 rifles, missiles and hundreds of TONS of ammunition because it would promote "safety."

    2022: Joe (The Coward) Biden refuses to do anything that would upset Russia and sits back while Russia invades.

    And RichA is volunteering to transport the nuke threre and set it off.

    geoff

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  • From Ken Blake@21:1/5 to geoff on Mon Feb 28 07:58:55 2022
    On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 09:20:17 +1300, geoff wrote:

    And RichA is volunteering to transport the nuke threre and set it off.

    Now Putin wants Finland back.

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to Ken Blake on Tue Mar 1 10:41:46 2022
    On 1/03/2022 3:58 am, Ken Blake wrote:
    On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 09:20:17 +1300, geoff wrote:

    And RichA is volunteering to transport the nuke threre and set it off.

    Now Putin wants Finland back.

    And Alaska too ...

    geoff

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