So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

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On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

Price points look pretty good, though. Think I paid the same basic amount
for a 7D body a dozen years ago…

-hh

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On Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 02:04:55 UTC+1, -hh wrote:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic are in automobiles these days… /s

As long as he doesn't find out that diamonds are made of the same stuff that is pencil lead.

Price points look pretty good, though. Think I paid the same basic amount for a 7D body a dozen years ago…

-hh

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Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

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On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Not necessarily, as all tooling costs money, plus there’s factors such as for joining
and rework which inform material suitability for a particular application.

-hh

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On Thursday, 26 May 2022 at 14:46:57 UTC-4, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Few and before anyone chimes in, woven carbon fiber and epoxy isn't the type of junk plastic used in cameras.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Theoretically, it might be possible to make something stronger of plastic if it was 3D printed because you can create
structural support internally that can't be done easily by welding or with machinery, but I do not see conventional plastic usurping steel or
aluminum for structural or load-bearing components.

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On 26 May 2022 at 22:23:51 BST, "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM >>>

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic >>> are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Not necessarily, as all tooling costs money, plus there’s factors such as for
joining
and rework which inform material suitability for a particular application.

-hh

There's strong and there's strong enough. If a camera is exerted to the sort
of forces where metal is needed over the plastics used, the camera is likely
to have far more serious things to worry about. When did you last come across quality plastics breaking?

That said, IMHO alumunium in particular does give stuff a really good 'feel'. --
Cheers, Rob

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On 2022-05-26, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Is the chassis plastic? Polycarbonate has been used on camera bodies
for years, including extremely tough, weather-sealed professional
models. The chassis is usually some form of allow, although parts can
be made of carbon fibre.

If you want a metal body, there are plenty of "retro" style bodies
available, although not from Canon.

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On 2022-05-27, RJH <patchmoney@gmx.com> wrote:

On 26 May 2022 at 22:23:51 BST, "-hh" <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM >>>>

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic >>>> are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic. >>

Not necessarily, as all tooling costs money, plus there’s factors such as for
joining
and rework which inform material suitability for a particular application. >>
-hh

There's strong and there's strong enough. If a camera is exerted to the sort of forces where metal is needed over the plastics used, the camera is likely to have far more serious things to worry about. When did you last come across quality plastics breaking?

That said, IMHO alumunium in particular does give stuff a really good 'feel'.

Aluminium is also soft and will lose its appearance quite quickly.

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On 2022-05-26 18:46:48 +0000, Alfred Molon said:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Carbon fiber is considered to be a fabric reinforced by plastic resin.

Every Formula 1, and Formula 2 car, along with several LeMans LMP1 &
LMP2 cars have carbon fiber monocoque chassis. The carbon fiber is
stronger, & lighter than steel or aluminum. There are several exotic
super cars that are fully constructed with carbon fiber frames & body
parts.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Not necessarily.

--
Regards,
Savageduck

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On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 01:27:18 UTC-4, RJH wrote:

On 26 May 2022 at 22:23:51 BST, "-hh" <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez.

https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM >>>

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Not necessarily, as all tooling costs money, plus there’s factors such as for
joining
and rework which inform material suitability for a particular application.

-hh

There's strong and there's strong enough. If a camera is exerted to the sort of forces where metal is needed over the plastics used, the camera is likely to have far more serious things to worry about. When did you last come across
quality plastics breaking?

That said, IMHO alumunium in particular does give stuff a really good 'feel'.
--
Cheers, Rob

All he time. Remember the Pentax K1000? Major problem was a plastic drive wheel in I believe, later models. That's the earliest I've seen a report of a plastic problem. But I see problems with breakage of plastic functional parts in tech all the time,
breakages that would not happen with metal.

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On Friday, 27 May 2022 at 10:05:02 UTC-4, Incubus wrote:

On 2022-05-27, RJH <patch...@gmx.com> wrote:

On 26 May 2022 at 22:23:51 BST, "-hh" <recscub...@huntzinger.com> wrote:

On Thursday, May 26, 2022 at 1:46:57 PM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 03:04 schrieb -hh:

On Tuesday, May 24, 2022 at 9:17:34 PM UTC-5, RichA wrote:

So for $1500 and $989, resp, all you get is a PLASTIC body? Geez. >>>>>
https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/canon-eos-r10/canon-eos-r10A.HTM

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

I guess cars would be a lot cheaper if the bodies were made out of plastic.

Not necessarily, as all tooling costs money, plus there’s factors such as for
joining
and rework which inform material suitability for a particular application.

-hh

There's strong and there's strong enough. If a camera is exerted to the sort
of forces where metal is needed over the plastics used, the camera is likely
to have far more serious things to worry about. When did you last come across
quality plastics breaking?

That said, IMHO alumunium in particular does give stuff a really good 'feel'.

Aluminium is also soft and will lose its appearance quite quickly.

Anodizing helps.

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Am 26.05.2022 um 23:23 schrieb -hh:

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic >>> are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

It's your "analogy attempt" which is broken. It makes a difference if a
metal lens mount is attached to plastic, or to a metal body.

There is a reason why a car body is not made out of plastic.
--
Alfred Molon

Olympus 4/3 and micro 4/3 cameras forum at
https://groups.io/g/myolympus
https://myolympus.org/ photo sharing site

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On Saturday, May 28, 2022 at 4:55:19 AM UTC-5, Alfred Molon wrote:

Am 26.05.2022 um 23:23 schrieb -hh:

Gosh, wonder what’s going to happen when Rich realizes how much plastic
are in automobiles these days… /s

How many cars have a body frame made out of plastic?

Since the R7’s lens mount is metal, you analogy attempt isn’t applicable.

It's your "analogy attempt" which is broken. It makes a difference if a metal lens mount is attached to plastic, or to a metal body.

There is a reason why a car body is not made out of plastic.

<< Saturn Motors has entered the chat >>

-hh

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On 2022-05-28 08:30:05 +0000, RichA said:

All he time. Remember the Pentax K1000?

I still have my, still functioning 1976 K1000. What didn't survive was
the faux leather half-case.

Major problem was a plastic drive wheel in I believe, later models.

Certainly not a problem that I ever experienced with my K1000.

That's the earliest I've seen a report of a plastic problem. But I see problems with breakage of plastic functional parts in tech all the
time, breakages that would not happen with metal.

...and yet metal fatique does occur
--
Regards,
Savageduck

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