• Seeking advice on making short films.

    From David Brooks@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 14 09:56:40 2022
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    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they have filmed?

    Advice welcomed.

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From FromTheRafters@21:1/5 to After serious thinking David Brooks on Mon Nov 14 06:47:48 2022
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    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Mon Nov 14 05:43:06 2022
    On Monday, 14 November 2022 at 09:56:47 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they have filmed?

    Advice welcomed.

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

    What do you have in mind. It's pretty easy to add short videos and string them together in iMovie
    and I assume other software. All depends on what you want to achieve perhaps an academy award.

    Still awaiting my nomination

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwLCvRZa6q8

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to FromTheRafters on Mon Nov 14 17:17:38 2022
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    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they have
    filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few
    minutes of video.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Mon Nov 14 19:14:30 2022
    On 14/11/2022 13:43, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Monday, 14 November 2022 at 09:56:47 UTC, David Brooks wrote:
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they have filmed?

    Advice welcomed.

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

    What do you have in mind. It's pretty easy to add short videos and string them together in iMovie
    and I assume other software. All depends on what you want to achieve perhaps an academy award.

    I'm uncertain WHAT I want to achieve - something in lieu of numerous photographs I suppose! I'll look out some YouTube videos on using iMovie
    and practice what I learn from there.

    Still awaiting my nomination

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwLCvRZa6q8

    I hereby nominate you for your nobber award! ;-)

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Tue Nov 15 14:31:28 2022
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    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they have
    filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay for,
    and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and can 'easily' do things like this: https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to geoff on Tue Nov 15 12:37:17 2022
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    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making short >>>> films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they have
    filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay for,
    and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and can 'easily' do things like this: https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:- https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared it
    on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January nearly
    two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into learning
    a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician
    once again! 😉

    --
    Kind regards,
    David

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Nov 16 09:59:50 2022
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    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making
    short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they have
    filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay for,
    and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and
    can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:- https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared it
    on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January nearly
    two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into learning
    a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little
    brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to geoff on Tue Nov 15 22:43:08 2022
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    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making
    short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they have >>>>>> filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip >>>> to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay
    for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and
    can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared it
    on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
    showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!

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  • From geoff@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Nov 16 14:46:11 2022
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    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making >>>>>>> short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they
    have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining
    together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip >>>>> to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few >>>>> minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay
    for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and
    can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared
    it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
    showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little
    brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!

    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.

    geoff

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Nov 16 05:41:23 2022
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making >>>>>>> short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip >>>>> to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few >>>>> minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for >>>> decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay
    for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/ >>>
    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared
    it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'! >>>
    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
    showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic! >>> I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician >>> once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little
    brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more: https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.

    iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option either.


    geoff

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  • From Magani@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Wed Nov 16 16:05:24 2022
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making >>>>>>> short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals. >>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few >>>>> minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for >>>> decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay >>>> for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/ >>>
    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared >>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the >>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'! >>>
    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
    showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic! >>> I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician >>> once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little >> brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more: https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.
    iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option either.


    geoff

    I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're spending their inheritance on.

    I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both available for Win, Apple and Linux. I looked at Kdenlive after I'd used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason to ditch Resolve.

    Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
    DaVinci Resolve 18 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/

    The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve. The amount of stuff you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use. The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.

    Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68 waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.

    1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring 'travel' bits to/from the ship. The stabiliser
    made it a *LOT* smoother than it really was
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY

    Elderly Australian behaving badly.

    Cheers,
    Magani

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to geoff on Wed Nov 16 23:20:34 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop, uk.comp.sys.mac

    On 16/11/2022 01:46, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in
    making short
    films from  integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions?

    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals.
    I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one
    clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few >>>>>> minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing
    software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been
    for decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you
    pay for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and
    can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/ >>>>
    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared
    it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the
    memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'! >>>>
    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He
    showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic! >>>> I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little
    brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!

    Sad for you.

    Not at all. If I wish, I can also use Microsoft Window and Linux Distros
    if I choose.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.

    geoff

    There are indeed. I'm signed up with Vimeo - Free, albeit basic.

    I know the lady who made this:- https://vimeo.com/764173780

    Very different!

    D.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Magani on Thu Nov 17 19:56:00 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 17/11/2022 00:05, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in making >>>>>>>>>> short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions? >>>>>>>>
    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals. >>>>>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from one clip >>>>>>>> to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to a few >>>>>>>> minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>>>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been for >>>>>>> decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay >>>>>>> for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>>>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:- https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/ >>>>>>
    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared >>>>>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the >>>>>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January
    nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not 'G'! >>>>>>
    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He >>>>>> showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty fantastic! >>>>>> I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a musician >>>>>> once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little >>>>> brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.
    iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option either.


    geoff

    I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're spending their inheritance on.

    I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both available for Win, Apple and Linux. I looked at Kdenlive after I'd used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason to ditch Resolve.

    Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
    DaVinci Resolve 18 - https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/

    The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve. The amount of stuff you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use. The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.

    Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68 waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.

    1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring 'travel' bits to/from the ship. The
    stabiliser made it a *LOT* smoother than it really was
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY

    Elderly Australian behaving badly.

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Thank you so very much for this contribution, Magani!

    I watched and enjoyed both of your video clips. :-D

    I've also installed Resolve ready to experiment on a rainy day during
    the winter!

    In return, you may enjoy this YT video about a trip which I never made
    in nearly 40 years of narrowboating!

    Cheers!
    David

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Nov 17 20:17:04 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 17/11/2022 19:56, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 00:05, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in >>>>>>>>>>> making
    short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions? >>>>>>>>>
    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals. >>>>>>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from >>>>>>>>> one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to >>>>>>>>> a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>>>>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been >>>>>>>> for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay >>>>>>>> for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>>>>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:-
    https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared >>>>>>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the >>>>>>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January >>>>>>> nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not >>>>>>> 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into
    learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He >>>>>>> showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty
    fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a
    musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little >>>>>> brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10"

    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/

    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies.
    iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option
    either.


    geoff

    I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips
    from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're
    spending their inheritance on.

    I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both
    available for Win, Apple and Linux.  I looked at Kdenlive after I'd
    used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason
    to ditch Resolve.

    Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
    DaVinci Resolve 18 -
    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/

    The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve.  The amount of stuff
    you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use.
    The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.

    Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these
    were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68
    waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.

    1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci
    Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the
    culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring
    'travel' bits to/from the ship.  The stabiliser made it a *LOT*
    smoother than it really was
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY

    Elderly Australian behaving badly.

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Thank you so very much for this contribution, Magani!

    I watched and enjoyed both of your video clips. :-D

    I've also installed Resolve ready to experiment on a rainy day during
    the winter!

    In return, you may enjoy this YT video about a trip which I never made
    in nearly 40 years of narrowboating!

    Missing link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYmqKjdEns

    Sorry about that!

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  • From Magani@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Nov 17 17:53:17 2022
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 6:17:11 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 19:56, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 00:05, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote: >>> On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in >>>>>>>>>>> making
    short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions? >>>>>>>>>
    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals. >>>>>>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from >>>>>>>>> one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to >>>>>>>>> a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>>>>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been >>>>>>>> for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay >>>>>>>> for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>>>>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:-
    https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared >>>>>>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the >>>>>>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January >>>>>>> nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin.
    Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not >>>>>>> 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into >>>>>>> learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He >>>>>>> showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty
    fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a
    musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little >>>>>> brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10" >>>>>
    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/ >>>>>
    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies. >>> iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option >>> either.


    geoff

    I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips
    from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're
    spending their inheritance on.

    I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both
    available for Win, Apple and Linux. I looked at Kdenlive after I'd
    used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason
    to ditch Resolve.

    Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
    DaVinci Resolve 18 -
    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/

    The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve. The amount of stuff
    you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use. >> The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.

    Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these
    were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68
    waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.

    1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci
    Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the
    culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring
    'travel' bits to/from the ship. The stabiliser made it a *LOT*
    smoother than it really was
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY

    Elderly Australian behaving badly.

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Thank you so very much for this contribution, Magani!

    I watched and enjoyed both of your video clips. :-D

    I've also installed Resolve ready to experiment on a rainy day during
    the winter!

    In return, you may enjoy this YT video about a trip which I never made
    in nearly 40 years of narrowboating!
    Missing link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYmqKjdEns

    Sorry about that!

    Crossing the Wash looks 'interesting'. I think I'd like a bit more boat under me for open seas. :-)

    Love 'Skippy' on the tiller!

    Thanks for that, David. A few memories there as we dropped my Dad off in Boston for a narrowboat cruise a few years back. I think he ended up somewhere near Sheffield? I don't know if the company still exists, but it had a narrowboat plus butty and
    looked very comfortable.

    Cheers,
    Magani.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to Magani on Fri Nov 18 14:33:27 2022
    XPost: alt.computer.workshop

    On 18/11/2022 01:53, Magani wrote:
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 6:17:11 am UTC+10, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 19:56, David Brooks wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 00:05, Magani wrote:
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 11:41:27 pm UTC+10, Whisky-dave wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 01:46:16 UTC, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 11:43 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:59, geoff wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 1:37 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 01:31, geoff wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 6:17 am, David Brooks wrote:
    On 14/11/2022 11:47, FromTheRafters wrote:
    After serious thinking David Brooks wrote :
    Hello

    Does anyone reading on these groups have any experience in >>>>>>>>>>>>> making
    short
    films from integrating numerous short video clips which they >>>>>>>>>>>>> have filmed?

    Most of mine are like that. Are you asking about transitions? >>>>>>>>>>>
    I was thinking along the lines of making a 'story' - maybe joining >>>>>>>>>>> together clips of the various birdlife I've seen on the canals. >>>>>>>>>>> I guess you are right in thinking about the transitions, from >>>>>>>>>>> one clip
    to another, and then, perhaps, adding music or a commentary to >>>>>>>>>>> a few
    minutes of video.


    That is how videos and films are usually made. Google video editing >>>>>>>>>> software.

    Yes. Hundreds of video editing applications out there. Have been >>>>>>>>>> for
    decades. Some paid for, some free. Generally you get what you pay >>>>>>>>>> for, and pay for what what you need.

    I have used Vegas Pro for since version 3. It is now up to V20, and >>>>>>>>>> can 'easily' do things like this:
    https://www.facebook.com/620689040/posts/pfbid026QNXWzjMwZ2r16jSdc8nHfmWGJrKSaWZR3FopeM49JkAcbay3LbQWgaKF5JUQh5El/?_rdc=1&_rdr

    geoff


    Thank you so much for your post 'geoff'. 🙂

    I've looked here:-
    https://www.vegascreativesoftware.com/gb/vegas-pro/

    It seems like 'the bees knees' as the expression goes!

    I also looked here:-
    https://www.creativebloq.com/features/best-video-editing-software-for-designers

    Lots for me to think about!

    The link you provided rather blew me away. Fascinating. I've shared >>>>>>>>> it on the Timeline of a man ('G') I met this time last week - at the >>>>>>>>> memorial 'party' for my late brother-in-law, who died in January >>>>>>>>> nearly two years ago, aged 89.

    'G' is just 50 - married to the daughter of my BIL's cousin. >>>>>>>>> Complicated. I'd met the cousin before, and her daughter, but not >>>>>>>>> 'G'!

    'G' started out as a musician but was somehow brow-beaten into >>>>>>>>> learning a trade and who now owns his own engineering business. He >>>>>>>>> showed me a
    video clip of him playing the drums recently - he is pretty
    fantastic!
    I'm sure he'd like nothing more than reverting to becoming a >>>>>>>>> musician
    once again! 😉



    Magix Movie Studio ( formerly Sony Vegas Movie Studio) is it's little >>>>>>>> brother.
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/

    geoff


    Thanks, BUT .......

    "You need the following operating systems: Windows 11 | Windows 10" >>>>>>>
    Read more:
    https://www.magix.com/us/video-editor/movie-studio/specifications/ >>>>>>>
    --
    David
    User of Apple devices since 2009!
    Sad for you.

    However there are Apple-compatible equivalents from other companies. >>>>> iMovie isn;t too bad for a free product .

    Don't think I'd want to pay £250 for final cut pro.

    Not sure what else there is but I wouldn't want a sunscribtion option >>>>> either.


    geoff

    I've dabbled in a couple recently to put together a couple of clips
    from a recent trip so I can show the kids/grandkids what we're
    spending their inheritance on.

    I've tried both Kdenlive and DaVinci Resolve - both free and both
    available for Win, Apple and Linux. I looked at Kdenlive after I'd
    used DeVinci Resolve and while it looks good, I didn't see any reason
    to ditch Resolve.

    Kdenlive - https://kdenlive.org/en/download/
    DaVinci Resolve 18 -
    https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/au/products/davinciresolve/

    The following clips were made on DeVinci Resolve. The amount of stuff >>>> you get for $/£/€0.00 I thought was amazing. More than I'll ever use. >>>> The learning curve was steep-ish but I think I managed to get there.

    Without wanting to get back into smartphones vs 'real' cameras, these
    were shot on a Samsung S21 Ultra - the 1st proving the IP68
    waterproofing :-) - attached to a DJI Mobile 3 gyro stabiliser.

    1st clip is really just one continuous shot, but put through DeVinci
    Resolve to shrink it to a suitable size for YouTube; the 2nd is the
    culmination of a 20 minute video cut to leave out most of the boring
    'travel' bits to/from the ship. The stabiliser made it a *LOT*
    smoother than it really was
    .
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N3ITIzE7n4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=184OELYXsmY

    Elderly Australian behaving badly.

    Cheers,
    Magani

    Thank you so very much for this contribution, Magani!

    I watched and enjoyed both of your video clips. :-D

    I've also installed Resolve ready to experiment on a rainy day during
    the winter!

    In return, you may enjoy this YT video about a trip which I never made
    in nearly 40 years of narrowboating!

    Missing link! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdYmqKjdEns <---- *HAS SUB-TITLES*!

    Sorry about that!

    Crossing the Wash looks 'interesting'. I think I'd like a bit more boat under me for open seas. :-)

    Love 'Skippy' on the tiller!

    Thanks for that, David. A few memories there as we dropped my Dad off in Boston for a narrowboat cruise a few years back. I think he ended up somewhere near Sheffield? I don't know if the company still exists, but it had a narrowboat plus butty and
    looked very comfortable.

    Cheers,
    Magani.


    You are most welcome, Magani.

    Boston seems a rather odd-ball place to START a
    narrowboat cruise, but there's no telling with some folk!
    I had a cousin who lived her whole life in Sheffield and she made me
    promise that I would /never/ take my narrowboat into the city centre. I
    kept my promise - instead, she and her husband came to visit us here:- https://bugsworthbasin.org (just a hop and skip over the Pennines!)

    --
    David

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