Just a warning about having everything in one cloud, especially for those that think the cloud is just one place where everything is secure for ever and ever.
it can rain and in the UK, it can 'piss it down' and really piss you off.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64051121
Just a warning about having everything in one cloud, especially for those that think the cloud is just one place where everything is secure for ever and ever.
it can rain and in the UK, it can 'piss it down' and really piss you off.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64051121
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"
In article <yEAxL.2163097$G_96.446329@fx13.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred_molon@yahoo.com> wrote:
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"
so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
their entire business model depends on it.
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"
so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
their entire business model depends on it.
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On 2023-01-17 09:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
Just a warning about having everything in one cloud, especially for those that think the cloud is just one place where everything is secure for ever and ever.
it can rain and in the UK, it can 'piss it down' and really piss you off.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64051121"Workspace" cloud (where your website resides, for example) is not a
secure backup.
People with low understanding of the underpinnings of the tech they use
are most vulnerable.
In the linked story they were dealing with a
provider who in turn depended on yet another co. for the actual service. First the latter, then the former went Tango Uniform and the client
was Sierra Oscar Lima.
I'd blame the middle co. the most for selling a service and not
informing the client of the vulnerability of the data.
Legally, with companies above going out of business there is not much enforceable one can do either.
Unless you control 100% of your applications and data, you're vulnerable.
A supplier of mine had their entire web, inventory, ordering, etc. done
by a third party co. The founders of that small co. bailed and the rest
of the co. "lost" all their web/data. Took them 2 months to get
everything sorted out. After that they insisted on their own copy of
all of the web code as well weekly backups of their data.
A current client of mine, at my suggestion, has made flat file copies of their data for safe storage. Their specialized software service
provider is mute on data security. At least with the flat file they can restore manually (if painfully) from the flat file (about 5000 client records and contract details). In the meantime they will press the
supplier on data security. (This detail is not part of my contract at
all - but did come up in over-breakfast-meeting discussions).
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In article <yEAxL.2163097$G_96....@fx13.ams1>, Alfred Molon <alfred...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
their entire business model depends on it.
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
But that doesn;t mean much when it fails.
their entire business model depends on it.
Business go broke and things go tits up.
In article <87206edb-d15f-406c...@googlegroups.com>,
Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
But that doesn;t mean much when it fails.anything can fail.
what you and others do not understand is that a cloud service is far
less likely to fail than anything someone can possibly do at home on
their own.
their entire business model depends on it.
Business go broke and things go tits up.amazon, google, apple, microsoft, dropbox and many cloud services
aren't going to go broke any time soon, certainly not in the lifetime
of anyone reading this.
in the unlikely event one decided to end their cloud services, they
would give ample warning so that users can migrate to another cloud
service *before* the shutdown.
further, it's never the only copy, so even if the cloud service was to suddenly disappear for some mythical reason, the user can simply
migrate to a new service from other copies of their data. that might
mean having to upload it again, but that's merely an inconvenience.
try learning about how things work rather than spewing the usual
bullshit.
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
But that doesn;t mean much when it fails.anything can fail.
yep even the 'cloud'
what you and others do not understand is that a cloud service is far
less likely to fail than anything someone can possibly do at home on
their own.
I understand it, what I don;t understand is why people assume just because something is in the cloud
there's no concerns.
In article <3dd8af70-d46e-4385...@googlegroups.com>,
Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
"What is the cloud? Well, the cloud is somebody else's computer,"so what?
that somebody else has more resources for data integrity than you do.
But that doesn;t mean much when it fails.anything can fail.
yep even the 'cloud'yep. the point is the cloud is more reliable than anything someone can
do at home, by a *lot*. although anything can fail,
the probability is
much lower because cloud services have massive redundancies, including multiple geographically diverse data centers.
cloud services are less convenient for large amounts of data since
internet bandwidth is slower than usb3 or thunderbolt, but once seeded,
the difference isn't a major issue.
what you and others do not understand is that a cloud service is far
less likely to fail than anything someone can possibly do at home on their own.
I understand it, what I don;t understand is why people assume just because something is in the cloudnobody said that.
there's no concerns.
yep. the point is the cloud is more reliable than anything someone can
do at home, by a *lot*. although anything can fail,
and something usually does. Mosytly it's the service to the cloud that is the problem.
This is one of the worries regarding driverless cars all connected relying on cloud computing
all yuo need is a solar flare or a small asteroid that could take out a whole data centre.
Backups will exist but how long does it take to get everything back up.
swe in the UK don;t have the problems of teh storms the USA currently has and the large outages that can last for days or weeks due to power supplies being taken out.
Not much point yuor busness sitting in teh cloud if you haven;t even the power to
light your home/business.
In article <fe37d144-dd8b-42dc...@googlegroups.com>,
Whisky-dave <whisk...@gmail.com> wrote:
yep. the point is the cloud is more reliable than anything someone can
do at home, by a *lot*. although anything can fail,
and something usually does. Mosytly it's the service to the cloud that is the problem.service outages are very rare and also brief, with no impact whatsoever
on the integrity of the data.
often they're in the middle of the night
and go unnoticed.
This is one of the worries regarding driverless cars all connected relying ondriverless cars do not rely on cloud computing. yet another thing you
cloud computing
do not understand.
all yuo need is a solar flare or a small asteroid that could take out a wholethat's why there are multiple geographically diverse data centers. if
data centre.
one fails for *any* reason, others elsewhere on the planet will take
over and nothing is lost.
on the other hand, if the planet is destroyed, then there is a problem, except it won't matter anymore.Depends on your network connection doesn't it.
Backups will exist but how long does it take to get everything back up.it's instant. much like a raid array.
swe in the UK don;t have the problems of teh storms the USA currently has and the large outages that can last for days or weeks due to power supplies being taken out.that has nothing to do with cloud storage.
Not much point yuor busness sitting in teh cloud if you haven;t even the power to
light your home/business.
in fact, it's actually better if someone's data is in the cloud since
they can travel to where there is power and access their data.
it's also a rare situation.
On 2023-01-17 09:44, Whisky-dave wrote:
Just a warning about having everything in one cloud, especially for those that think the cloud is just one place where everything is secure for ever and ever.
it can rain and in the UK, it can 'piss it down' and really piss you off.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-64051121"Workspace" cloud (where your website resides, for example) is not a
secure backup.
People with low understanding of the underpinnings of the tech they use
are most vulnerable.
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