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    From sobriquet@21:1/5 to All on Wed Jan 26 17:08:05 2022
    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Thu Jan 27 10:50:56 2022
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Must be fake!

    The sailor is wearing a safety belt - I'm sure you must have noticed, yes?

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  • From sobriquet@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Thu Jan 27 05:21:59 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:51:03 AM UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
    Must be fake!

    The sailor is wearing a safety belt - I'm sure you must have noticed, yes?

    I don't see how the such basic safety precautions imply the image to be fake.

    https://i.imgur.com/sOeCMTg.jpg

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Thu Jan 27 06:54:05 2022
    On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 13:22:02 UTC, sobriquet wrote:
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:51:03 AM UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
    Must be fake!

    The sailor is wearing a safety belt - I'm sure you must have noticed, yes?
    I don't see how the such basic safety precautions imply the image to be fake.

    https://i.imgur.com/sOeCMTg.jpg


    Not sure what's so amazing about the original picture , and
    Any sensible person would would wear such a safety thing given the option, but then again you wouldn't get me up there even with one
    I'm alergic to gravity. :)

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  • From sobriquet@21:1/5 to Whisky-dave on Thu Jan 27 07:36:12 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 3:54:10 PM UTC+1, Whisky-dave wrote:
    On Thursday, 27 January 2022 at 13:22:02 UTC, sobriquet wrote:
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 11:51:03 AM UTC+1, David Brooks wrote:
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
    Must be fake!

    The sailor is wearing a safety belt - I'm sure you must have noticed, yes?
    I don't see how the such basic safety precautions imply the image to be fake.

    https://i.imgur.com/sOeCMTg.jpg
    Not sure what's so amazing about the original picture , and
    Any sensible person would would wear such a safety thing given the option, but then again you wouldn't get me up there even with one
    I'm alergic to gravity. :)

    I dunno.. somehow I just love pictures with a visual pattern in both dark on light
    background and light on dark background variations.

    https://i.imgur.com/W0vIcr4.jpg

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Thu Jan 27 19:38:25 2022
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    It's a great image, but I am not sure I understand how the effects arise
    unless it has been photoshopped.

    And once that is the case, maybe the "sun" has been added as well as the annular red region where the rigging has become washed out. Interesting
    that the sun has been cut off by the mast at the right, and the sailor
    is not quite central in the sun. That might suggest that it's not a
    composite. But I still think the rigging has been airbrushed out.

    I just wish people would be honest about composite images, rather than
    implying that they have incredible skill in getting components
    positioned exactly right, and also correct exposure over the whole frame.

    And I don't have a problem with a bit of artistic license, like removing distractions such as power lines, or tweaking brightness, colour, or
    contrast across the frame.

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  • From sobriquet@21:1/5 to newshound on Thu Jan 27 12:34:43 2022
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 8:38:31 PM UTC+1, newshound wrote:
    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
    It's a great image, but I am not sure I understand how the effects arise unless it has been photoshopped.

    And once that is the case, maybe the "sun" has been added as well as the annular red region where the rigging has become washed out. Interesting
    that the sun has been cut off by the mast at the right, and the sailor
    is not quite central in the sun. That might suggest that it's not a composite. But I still think the rigging has been airbrushed out.

    I do wonder why the area of the sun blocks out details
    of the rigging of the ship.
    It's hard to find images closely resembling it with a something silhouetted against
    the setting or rising sun.
    https://imgur.com/a/bsxadjU

    I think the appearance of the sun can vary quite dramatically depending on atmospheric conditions.


    I just wish people would be honest about composite images, rather than implying that they have incredible skill in getting components
    positioned exactly right, and also correct exposure over the whole frame.

    And I don't have a problem with a bit of artistic license, like removing distractions such as power lines, or tweaking brightness, colour, or
    contrast across the frame.

    I see no obvious signs of image manipulation, but then again, I have little experience with that.

    http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=012786a26aca42ff05e0b3ef6096b7c6c7c80bf4.853951

    I can just compare it to an image that I know to be manipulated.

    http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=a9038350aa754c4415f3d5a488915102fac7f39d.735807

    https://i.imgur.com/YNBLlik.jpeg

    https://i.imgur.com/16PKwWy.jpg

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Thu Jan 27 15:15:06 2022
    On Wednesday, 26 January 2022 at 20:08:08 UTC-5, sobriquet wrote:
    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    Nothing spectacular. People go out to airports and shoot planes against the sun/moon all the time. Just a matter of timing.

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  • From Dale@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Thu Jan 27 22:45:26 2022
    On 1/26/2022 8:08 PM, sobriquet wrote:
    National Geographic often has stunning pictures

    https://www.wondrium.com/catalogsearch/result/?search_param=all&catid=&q=photography

    --
    Mystery? -> https://www.dalekelly.org/

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to sobriquet on Sat Jan 29 10:32:35 2022
    On 27/01/2022 20:34, sobriquet wrote:
    On Thursday, January 27, 2022 at 8:38:31 PM UTC+1, newshound wrote:


    I see no obvious signs of image manipulation, but then again, I have little experience with that.

    http://fotoforensics.com/analysis.php?id=012786a26aca42ff05e0b3ef6096b7c6c7c80bf4.853951


    What a great site! Some very interesting content.

    (I'm still sure it's been manipulated).

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  • From m-m@21:1/5 to newshound on Tue Feb 1 21:35:00 2022
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m







    In article <ssusbi$qb3$1@dont-email.me>, newshound <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    It's a great image, but I am not sure I understand how the effects arise unless it has been photoshopped.

    And once that is the case, maybe the "sun" has been added as well as the annular red region where the rigging has become washed out. Interesting
    that the sun has been cut off by the mast at the right, and the sailor
    is not quite central in the sun. That might suggest that it's not a composite. But I still think the rigging has been airbrushed out.

    I just wish people would be honest about composite images, rather than implying that they have incredible skill in getting components
    positioned exactly right, and also correct exposure over the whole frame.

    And I don't have a problem with a bit of artistic license, like removing distractions such as power lines, or tweaking brightness, colour, or
    contrast across the frame.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to m-m on Wed Feb 2 09:13:51 2022
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

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    David

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Feb 2 11:05:30 2022
    On 02/02/2022 09:13, David Brooks wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten
    the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It's a great picture, but not strictly comparable because it doesn't
    have the curious missing rigging.

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to m-m on Wed Feb 2 05:55:45 2022
    On Wednesday, 2 February 2022 at 02:35:05 UTC, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m
    In article <ssusbi$qb3$1...@dont-email.me>, newshound <sradcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 27/01/2022 01:08, sobriquet wrote:

    National Geographic often has stunning pictures. I encountered it
    on FB and it took me a while to find a link to a good quality version.

    https://i.imgur.com/3xXmXsd.jpg

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FIrBGdmXwAIF9V1?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

    It's a great image, but I am not sure I understand how the effects arise unless it has been photoshopped.

    And once that is the case, maybe the "sun" has been added as well as the annular red region where the rigging has become washed out. Interesting that the sun has been cut off by the mast at the right, and the sailor
    is not quite central in the sun. That might suggest that it's not a composite. But I still think the rigging has been airbrushed out.

    I just wish people would be honest about composite images, rather than implying that they have incredible skill in getting components
    positioned exactly right, and also correct exposure over the whole frame.

    And I don't have a problem with a bit of artistic license, like removing distractions such as power lines, or tweaking brightness, colour, or contrast across the frame.


    yes I prefer this one as it doesn;t look faked even if it was enhanced a little
    .

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  • From Whisky-dave@21:1/5 to newshound on Wed Feb 2 05:56:50 2022
    On Wednesday, 2 February 2022 at 11:05:35 UTC, newshound wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 09:13, David Brooks wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten
    the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It's a great picture, but not strictly comparable because it doesn't
    have the curious missing rigging.

    Yep rigging most definantly needed ;-)

    Sex Pistols - Friggin In The Riggin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRotvCVKAe8

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  • From sobriquet@21:1/5 to m-m on Wed Feb 2 08:19:31 2022
    On Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:35:05 AM UTC+1, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    I prefer the clear outlines of the figures in the NG picture. I think the outlines are the
    whole point of silhouetting subjects, so then it's kind of critical to get the exposure
    right to obtain crisp outlines. Perhaps it requires foggy weather to ensure the light
    of the sun is somewhat attenuated.

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  • From m-m@21:1/5 to David Brooks on Wed Feb 2 22:01:46 2022
    In article <jXrKJ.10522$TXc5.9806@fx14.ams1>, David Brooks <Davidb_tj@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It was taken from the shore through a spotting scope.

    m-m
    mhmyers.com

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  • From m-m@21:1/5 to newshound on Wed Feb 2 22:11:28 2022
    In article <stdohq$fqq$1@dont-email.me>, newshound <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 02/02/2022 09:13, David Brooks wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten
    the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It's a great picture, but not strictly comparable because it doesn't
    have the curious missing rigging.


    It is a frame from a movie I made from the stills. The last frame shows the green flash at sunset.
    I put it on youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMXxDdfdWQ

    m-m
    mhmyers.com

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  • From newshound@21:1/5 to m-m on Thu Feb 3 19:12:12 2022
    On 03/02/2022 03:11, m-m wrote:
    In article <stdohq$fqq$1@dont-email.me>, newshound <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 02/02/2022 09:13, David Brooks wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten >>>> the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It's a great picture, but not strictly comparable because it doesn't
    have the curious missing rigging.


    It is a frame from a movie I made from the stills. The last frame shows the green flash at sunset.
    I put it on youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMXxDdfdWQ

    m-m
    mhmyers.com

    Oh well done! I had a perfect view of the "green flash" on holiday at
    Carn Marth in Cornwall last year. I took the full kit out the next day
    to try to do a time-lapse, but was foiled by cloud.

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to m-m on Fri Feb 4 11:20:52 2022
    On 03/02/2022 03:11, m-m wrote:
    In article <stdohq$fqq$1@dont-email.me>, newshound <sradcliffe544@gmail.com> wrote:

    On 02/02/2022 09:13, David Brooks wrote:
    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten >>>> the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It's a great picture, but not strictly comparable because it doesn't
    have the curious missing rigging.


    It is a frame from a movie I made from the stills. The last frame shows the green flash at sunset.
    I put it on youtube:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GMXxDdfdWQ

    m-m
    mhmyers.com


    Amazing. I've left a question in the comments section!

    Thank you. :-D

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  • From David Brooks@21:1/5 to m-m on Fri Feb 4 11:21:43 2022
    On 03/02/2022 03:01, m-m wrote:



    In article <jXrKJ.10522$TXc5.9806@fx14.ams1>, David Brooks <Davidb_tj@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

    On 02/02/2022 02:35, m-m wrote:
    I took a similar photo and for sure not photoshopped except to lighten the shadows:

    http://mhmyers.com/d80/DSCN2453sm.jpg

    m-m

    That's simply outstanding!

    Congratulations! :-D

    Do you have your own yacht? (From which the photograph was taken)

    It was taken from the shore through a spotting scope.

    m-m
    mhmyers.com


    I'd never have guessed that!

    --
    David

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