• Using only two 2s and any mathematical symbols, make 5. NO TRICKS

    From HenHanna@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 19 03:19:27 2025
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    Using only two 2s and any mathematical symbols, make 5. NO TRICKS

    1= 2/2

    2= ???

    3= ???

    4= 2+2


    9= ???

    10= 2/.2



    Floor, and Ceiling....

    log(22) ≈ 1.34242268 So Ceiling( Log(22) ) = 2

    ln(22)≈3.091042 So Floor( Ln(22)) = 3

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  • From IlanMayer@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Mon May 19 14:04:25 2025
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    On Mon, 19 May 2025 3:19:22 +0000, HenHanna wrote:

    Using only two 2s and any mathematical symbols, make 5. NO TRICKS

    1= 2/2

    2= ???

    3= ???

    4= 2+2


    9= ???

    10= 2/.2



    Floor, and Ceiling....

    log(22) ≈ 1.34242268 So Ceiling( Log(22) ) = 2

    ln(22)≈3.091042 So Floor( Ln(22)) = 3

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    Ceiling(Sqrt(22)) = 5

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  • From guido wugi@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 22 16:56:29 2025
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    Op 19/05/2025 om 5:19 schreef HenHanna:
     Using only two 2s and any mathematical symbols, make 5.      NO >>>> TRICKS

     1= 2/2

     2=  ???

    2 = SQR(2x2)

     3= ???

    3 = 2 + INT(SQR(2))

     4= 2+2

    5 = 2 + CEIL(e^INT(SQR(2)))

    6 = (2 + INT(SQR(2)))!

    7 = FLOOR(e^(SQR(2^2)))

    8 = 2^^2  (= 2^2^2)

    9 = CEIL(e^2 + SQR(2))

     9= ???

     10=  2/.2



    Floor, and Ceiling....

             log(22) ≈ 1.34242268     So       Ceiling( Log(22) ) = 2

                   ln(22)≈3.091042    So           Floor( Ln(22)) = 3

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to guido wugi on Thu May 22 17:10:46 2025
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    On Thu, 22 May 2025 14:56:29 +0000, guido wugi wrote:

    Op 19/05/2025 om 5:19 schreef HenHanna:
     Using only two 2s and any mathematical symbols, make 5.      NO >>>>> TRICKS

     1= 2/2

     2=  ???

    2 = SQR(2x2)

     3= ???

    3 = 2 + INT(SQR(2))

     4= 2+2

    5 = 2 + CEIL(e^INT(SQR(2)))

    6 = (2 + INT(SQR(2)))!

    7 = FLOOR(e^(SQR(2^2)))

    8 = 2^^2  (= 2^2^2)


    I don't gt this one. (4^2 and 2^4 are both 16)

    ( THansks fror Playing!!! )


    i love this one: (.2)^(i^2)



    9 = CEIL(e^2 + SQR(2))

     9= ???

     10=  2/.2



    Floor, and Ceiling....

             log(22) ≈ 1.34242268     So       Ceiling( Log(22) ) = 2

                   ln(22)≈3.091042    So           Floor( Ln(22)) = 3

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to guido wugi on Thu May 22 19:11:25 2025
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    On 22/05/2025 15:56, guido wugi wrote:
    8 = 2^^2  (= 2^2^2)

    ITYM 2<<2

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  • From guido wugi@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 22 20:26:30 2025
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    Op 22/05/2025 om 19:10 schreef HenHanna:
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 14:56:29 +0000, guido wugi wrote:

    8 = 2^^2  (= 2^2^2)


    I don't gt this   one.      (4^2 and 2^4  are both 16)

    I wasn't sure anyway, and rightly so it seems.
    Well, borrowing from the form for 9 we get

    8 = FLOOR(e^2 + SQR(2))

    ( THansks fror  Playing!!! )


                 i love this one:   (.2)^(i^2)

    For 5, yes! I couldn't find a proper form for 1/.2.

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  • From Mike Terry@21:1/5 to guido wugi on Fri May 23 01:45:06 2025
    On 22/05/2025 19:26, guido wugi wrote:
    Op 22/05/2025 om 19:10 schreef HenHanna:
    On Thu, 22 May 2025 14:56:29 +0000, guido wugi wrote:

    8 = 2^^2  (= 2^2^2)


    I don't gt this   one.      (4^2 and 2^4  are both 16)

    I wasn't sure anyway, and rightly so it seems.
    Well, borrowing from the form for 9 we get

    8 = FLOOR(e^2 + SQR(2))

    ( THansks fror  Playing!!! )


                 i love this one:   (.2)^(i^2)

    For 5, yes! I couldn't find a proper form for 1/.2.


    5 = i*i*i*i + i*i*i*i + i*i*i*i + i*i*i*i + i*i*i*i + 2 - 2

    This seems like a very silly puzzle without more clarity over what constitutes a "mathematical
    symbol". Of course the whole idea is to encourage such inventiveness in the responses, but hey,
    silly is silly... :)

    And also:

    5 = 5 + 2 - 2

    What? Sure 5 is a mathematical symbol if i counts!

    Or:

    5 = Successor(Successor(Successor(Successor(Successor(2-2)))))

    What? Sure Successor is a mathematical symbol, if log counts etc. etc. etc.


    Mike.

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to RunningMuso on Fri May 23 11:46:37 2025
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    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:
    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

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  • From Peter Moylan@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Fri May 23 21:51:18 2025
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    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

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    Newcastle, NSW

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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Fri May 23 13:39:31 2025
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    Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> wrote:

    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:
    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    And by a well-known result due to Dirac
    any number can be written with four 2s

    Jan

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  • From occam@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Fri May 23 14:13:21 2025
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    On 23/05/2025 13:51, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.


    <smile> Did they also tell you were were two clever by half ? That means
    one's very clever.

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  • From occam@21:1/5 to J. J. Lodder on Fri May 23 14:11:18 2025
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    On 23/05/2025 13:39, J. J. Lodder wrote:


    And by a well-known result due to Dirac
    any number can be written with four 2s


    Any number, including transcendentals? Please ask Dirac to express "pi"
    with four 2s for me.

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Fri May 23 13:38:03 2025
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    On 23/05/2025 12:51, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    Not necessarily.

    2 - 2 = 0

    log 2 = 1 (or just 2/2 = 1)
    2

    2 & 2 = 2
    ___
    2 + floor(\/2 ) = 3
    ___ ___
    \/ 2 x \/ 2 = 2

    2 + 2 (as you say) = 4

    __________
    \/(.2)^(-2) = 5


    floor(pi * (2&2)) = 6

    ceiling(pi * (2&2)) = 7

    (2&2)^floor(pi) = 8

    floor(pi*pi)/(2&2) = 9

    2/.2 = 10

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    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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  • From J. J. Lodder@21:1/5 to occam on Fri May 23 15:21:05 2025
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    occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:

    On 23/05/2025 13:39, J. J. Lodder wrote:


    And by a well-known result due to Dirac
    any number can be written with four 2s


    Any number, including transcendentals? Please ask Dirac to express "pi"
    with four 2s for me.

    We were talking integers, as you well know.
    And for your appreciation of English:
    in the context of number tricks,
    'number' means integer,

    Jan

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  • From Carl G.@21:1/5 to Peter Moylan on Fri May 23 08:27:09 2025
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    On 5/23/2025 4:51 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    (ObPun) Dance school teaches people what tutus are for.
    --
    Carl G.


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  • From lar3ryca@21:1/5 to Carl G. on Fri May 23 13:34:23 2025
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    On 2025-05-23 09:27, Carl G. wrote:
    On 5/23/2025 4:51 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    (ObPun) Dance school teaches people what tutus are for.

    SWMBO and I have a standard quip. If one of us asks the other what the
    score of a game is, One possible answer is "short skirt".

    --
    Life is like an analogy.

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  • From HenHanna@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Fri May 23 19:33:51 2025
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    2 & 2 = 2

    (Bitwise AND) interesting!


    The bitwise OR operator in Python is represented by the vertical bar
    symbol |

    ___________________

    In Python, the expression (2 and 2) uses the logical and
    operator, not a bitwise or arithmetic operation.

    With and, Python evaluates the first operand (2), which is considered
    True because it is a nonzero value.

    It then evaluates the second operand (2) and returns it, since both
    operands are "truthy."

    Thus, (2 and 2) in Python evaluates to 2.

    __________________________________

    ___________________ Huh! Python returns the last truthy value, just
    like Lisp!



    On Fri, 23 May 2025 12:38:03 +0000, Richard Heathfield wrote:

    On 23/05/2025 12:51, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    Not necessarily.

    2 - 2 = 0

    log 2 = 1 (or just 2/2 = 1)
    2

    2 & 2 = 2
    ___
    2 + floor(\/2 ) = 3
    ___ ___
    \/ 2 x \/ 2 = 2

    2 + 2 (as you say) = 4

    __________
    \/(.2)^(-2) = 5


    floor(pi * (2&2)) = 6

    ceiling(pi * (2&2)) = 7

    (2&2)^floor(pi) = 8

    floor(pi*pi)/(2&2) = 9

    2/.2 = 10

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  • From Tilde@21:1/5 to HenHanna on Sun Jun 15 23:42:26 2025
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    HenHanna wrote:


    Was looking this thread ove

    Explain what you mean by "trick"

    Is using something like INT(e) or INT(pi) over
    and over and then tacking on something like 2/2
    or 2 + 2 a trick?

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  • From occam@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 08:57:28 2025
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    On 23/05/2025 21:34, lar3ryca wrote:
    On 2025-05-23 09:27, Carl G. wrote:
    On 5/23/2025 4:51 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    (ObPun) Dance school teaches people what tutus are for.

    SWMBO and I have a standard quip. If one of us asks the other what the
    score of a game is, One possible answer is "short skirt".


    The other possibility is 'a Desmond'. If, in the UK, you asked someone
    what grade their degree was (options: 'first' (first class),
    'two-one'(2:1), two-two' (2:2), 'third'), the discreet answer may be 'a Desmond'. This is a reference to Despond Tutu, who was a South African Anglican bishop and theologian (RIP).

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to occam on Mon Jun 16 09:08:27 2025
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    On Mon, 16 Jun 2025 08:57:28 +0200
    occam <occam@nowhere.nix> wrote:

    On 23/05/2025 21:34, lar3ryca wrote:
    On 2025-05-23 09:27, Carl G. wrote:
    On 5/23/2025 4:51 AM, Peter Moylan wrote:
    On 23/05/25 20:46, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    On 23/05/2025 11:32, RunningMuso wrote:

    Huh? 2 + 2 + (2/2).

    See Subject header: "Using only two 2s"

    2 + 2 + (2/2) uses four twos.

    Yes, but they taught me at school that two twos are four.

    (ObPun) Dance school teaches people what tutus are for.

    SWMBO and I have a standard quip. If one of us asks the other what the score of a game is, One possible answer is "short skirt".


    The other possibility is 'a Desmond'. If, in the UK, you asked someone
    what grade their degree was (options: 'first' (first class),
    'two-one'(2:1), two-two' (2:2), 'third'), the discreet answer may be 'a Desmond'. This is a reference to Despond Tutu, who was a South African Anglican bishop and theologian (RIP).

    Beware! Only Slough has proper Desponds, all others are fake.
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@21:1/5 to Tilde on Mon Jun 16 09:06:58 2025
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    On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 23:42:26 -0600
    Tilde <invalide@invalid.invalid> wrote:


    HenHanna wrote:


    Was looking this thread ove

    Explain what you mean by "trick"

    Is using something like INT(e) or INT(pi) over
    and over and then tacking on something like 2/2
    or 2 + 2 a trick?

    The trick is xposting into aue where the Hen's cluckings are not relvant
    or wanted, IMO. But luckily you snipped it anyway.

    fu to rec.puzzles only
    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Bertitaylor@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 16 09:09:23 2025
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    Square of (2) + 2^•

    Woof

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