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    From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 31 03:38:12 2025
    Firefox has decided to install ChatGPT on my system. At some
    point I will have to find out how inquisitive it is, but for now
    I've been setting it puzzles.

    So far I have set it the following puzzles:

    1) The Goldbach Conjecture - PROVED (for low n).
    2) 5-disc Hanoi - PASSED.
    3) Write a valid C90 program that is invalid C99 - FAILED.
    4) Today's bucket-slosher from Kevin's BB site - PASSED.
    5) Yesterday's BB multiple choice - FAILED (after six attempts!).


    "Good game, good game. I hope you're playing this at home" -
    Bruce Forsyth 1971.

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    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From Carl G.@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Sat May 31 12:13:06 2025
    On 5/30/2025 7:38 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    Firefox has decided to install ChatGPT on my system. At some point I
    will have to find out how inquisitive it is, but for now I've been
    setting it puzzles.

    So far I have set it the following puzzles:

    1) The Goldbach Conjecture - PROVED (for low n).
    2) 5-disc Hanoi - PASSED.
    3) Write a valid C90 program that is invalid C99 - FAILED.
    4) Today's bucket-slosher from Kevin's BB site - PASSED.
    5) Yesterday's BB multiple choice - FAILED (after six attempts!).


    "Good game, good game. I hope you're playing this at home" - Bruce
    Forsyth 1971.


    About a year ago I asked an AI to create some original logic puzzles,
    each with an unique solution. It generated what, at first, appeared to
    be valid puzzles. They were fairly simple (e.g., three statements and a question that could be answered by analyzing the statements). When the
    AI gave the intended solution, it often contradicted the statements. In
    other attempts, the solution wasn't unique.
    --
    Carl G.


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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to Carl G. on Sat May 31 20:31:55 2025
    On 31/05/2025 20:13, Carl G. wrote:
    On 5/30/2025 7:38 PM, Richard Heathfield wrote:
    Firefox has decided to install ChatGPT on my system. At some
    point I will have to find out how inquisitive it is, but for
    now I've been setting it puzzles.

    So far I have set it the following puzzles:

    1) The Goldbach Conjecture - PROVED (for low n).
    2) 5-disc Hanoi - PASSED.
    3) Write a valid C90 program that is invalid C99 - FAILED.
    4) Today's bucket-slosher from Kevin's BB site - PASSED.
    5) Yesterday's BB multiple choice - FAILED (after six attempts!).


    "Good game, good game. I hope you're playing this at home" -
    Bruce Forsyth 1971.


    About a year ago I asked an AI to create some original logic
    puzzles, each with an unique solution.

    Not a bad idea.

    It generated what, at
    first, appeared to be valid puzzles.  They were fairly simple
    (e.g., three statements and a question that could be answered by
    analyzing the statements).  When the AI gave the intended
    solution, it often contradicted the statements.  In other
    attempts, the solution wasn't unique.

    Yes, I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that this AI doesn't
    box as clever as it first appears.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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  • From David Entwistle@21:1/5 to Richard Heathfield on Sun Jun 1 07:20:55 2025
    On Sat, 31 May 2025 03:38:12 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote:

    Firefox has decided to install ChatGPT on my system. At some point I
    will have to find out how inquisitive it is, but for now I've been
    setting it puzzles.

    I've recently been travelling and the hotel I stayed in at the airport
    offered free copies of the New York Times. They had a article reporting
    that large software-focused companies, Google, Microsoft and the like, are
    now encouraging, or even requiring their developers to use AI tools to
    write the code in order to meet productivity targets. The human developers
    were left reviewing and testing largely AI-generated code.

    I can't help feeling there'll be some downside to that practice further to
    the obvious demoralization of the existing staff.

    --
    David Entwistle

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  • From Richard Heathfield@21:1/5 to David Entwistle on Sun Jun 1 08:39:32 2025
    On 01/06/2025 08:20, David Entwistle wrote:
    On Sat, 31 May 2025 03:38:12 +0100, Richard Heathfield wrote:

    Firefox has decided to install ChatGPT on my system. At some point I
    will have to find out how inquisitive it is, but for now I've been
    setting it puzzles.

    I've recently been travelling and the hotel I stayed in at the airport offered free copies of the New York Times. They had a article reporting
    that large software-focused companies, Google, Microsoft and the like, are now encouraging, or even requiring their developers to use AI tools to
    write the code in order to meet productivity targets. The human developers were left reviewing and testing largely AI-generated code.

    I can't help feeling there'll be some downside to that practice further to the obvious demoralization of the existing staff.

    The talented programmers will go elsewhere, with any luck, in
    which case there's no downside after all.

    --
    Richard Heathfield
    Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
    "Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
    Sig line 4 vacant - apply within

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