• 1.FFC Turbine Potsdam 71 e.V.

    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 00:09:47 2023
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    Secondly, we're doomed! :-( We lost 5-1 at home against Bayer Leverkusen at the weekend, and are certain to get relegated. :-(

    I think this might even be worse than Independiente getting relegated in 2013. At least with Independiente it was the first time ever, and there was a feeling of "Well it had to happen eventually", and there was a good chance of winning promotion very
    soon. Turbine Potsdam could take years to come back up couldn't they?

    Does anyone know anything about this partnership with Hertha Berlin? Maybe that will help?

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon May 15 08:22:22 2023
    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    You could look it up, you know.

    But it is "first" [erste] (also found in the name of teams like Köln, Kaiserslautern) Frauenfussballclub (women's football club) - 71 is
    the year of founding (like Schalke 04, Hannover 96 and so on), and e.
    V. means eingetragener Verein (registered association)

    Secondly, we're doomed! :-( We lost 5-1 at home against Bayer Leverkusen at the weekend, and are certain to get relegated. :-(

    I think this might even be worse than Independiente getting relegated in 2013. At least with Independiente it was the first time ever, and there was a feeling of "Well it had to happen eventually", and there was a good chance of winning promotion very
    soon. Turbine Potsdam could take years to come back up couldn't they?

    Does anyone know anything about this partnership with Hertha Berlin? Maybe that will help?

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 15 16:26:12 2023
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    You could look it up, you know.

    Especially as Mark uses Google Groups to post here... how hard is it then
    to use Google search?!

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Mon May 15 15:23:28 2023
    In article <nnd$084ddd76$7cf63316@e882e951bac9f6dc>,
    Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    You could look it up, you know.

    Especially as Mark uses Google Groups to post here... how hard is it then
    to use Google search?!

    ;-)
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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue May 16 01:37:07 2023
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:09:49 AM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    Secondly, we're doomed! :-( We lost 5-1 at home against Bayer Leverkusen at the weekend, and are certain to get relegated.
    :-(

    I think this might even be worse than Independiente getting relegated in 2013. At least with Independiente it was the first
    time ever, and there was a feeling of "Well it had to happen eventually", and there was a good chance of winning promotion
    very soon. Turbine Potsdam could take years to come back up couldn't they?

    Does anyone know anything about this partnership with Hertha Berlin?

    There is none. It was dissolved last November as Hertha's board decided to pursue the
    creation of a women's team of their own, and currently Hertha have other problems anyway.

    Maybe that will help?

    It very much looks like the days of unaffiliated, 'pure' women's clubs are over.
    With Turbine's demise, SGS Essen are the only one left in the German Bundesliga.
    Same in Europe, FC Rosengård are currently UEFA's highest-ranked unaffiliated club, and they've seen much better days.
    Of previous Women's CL finalists and trailblazers - Umeå, FCR Duisburg, Tyresö,
    all gone. FFC Frankfurt avoided that fate by affiliating themselves with Eintracht.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Blueshirt on Tue May 16 05:39:31 2023
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:27:18 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    You could look it up, you know.
    Especially as Mark uses Google Groups to post here... how hard is it then
    to use Google search?!

    I'm technophobic. I'm not very good at finding things online.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue May 16 05:39:47 2023
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 9:37:09 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:09:49 AM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    Secondly, we're doomed! :-( We lost 5-1 at home against Bayer Leverkusen at the weekend, and are certain to get relegated.
    :-(

    I think this might even be worse than Independiente getting relegated in 2013. At least with Independiente it was the first
    time ever, and there was a feeling of "Well it had to happen eventually", and there was a good chance of winning promotion
    very soon. Turbine Potsdam could take years to come back up couldn't they?

    Does anyone know anything about this partnership with Hertha Berlin?
    There is none. It was dissolved last November as Hertha's board decided to pursue the
    creation of a women's team of their own, and currently Hertha have other problems anyway.

    Maybe that will help?

    It very much looks like the days of unaffiliated, 'pure' women's clubs are over.
    With Turbine's demise, SGS Essen are the only one left in the German Bundesliga.
    Same in Europe, FC Rosengård are currently UEFA's highest-ranked unaffiliated
    club, and they've seen much better days.
    Of previous Women's CL finalists and trailblazers - Umeå, FCR Duisburg, Tyresö,
    all gone. FFC Frankfurt avoided that fate by affiliating themselves with Eintracht.

    Ciao,
    Werner

    Any idea who the nearest big German football club is to Potsdam? Who should we affiliate with?

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue May 16 06:25:26 2023
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 2:39:49 PM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    On Tuesday, May 16, 2023 at 9:37:09 AM UTC+1, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 9:09:49 AM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    Secondly, we're doomed! :-( We lost 5-1 at home against Bayer Leverkusen at the weekend, and are certain to get
    relegated.
    :-(

    I think this might even be worse than Independiente getting relegated in 2013. At least with Independiente it was the first
    time ever, and there was a feeling of "Well it had to happen eventually", and there was a good chance of winning
    promotion very soon. Turbine Potsdam could take years to come back up couldn't they?

    Does anyone know anything about this partnership with Hertha Berlin?

    There is none. It was dissolved last November as Hertha's board decided to pursue the
    creation of a women's team of their own, and currently Hertha have other problems anyway.

    Maybe that will help?

    It very much looks like the days of unaffiliated, 'pure' women's clubs are over.
    With Turbine's demise, SGS Essen are the only one left in the German Bundesliga.
    Same in Europe, FC Rosengård are currently UEFA's highest-ranked unaffiliated
    club, and they've seen much better days.
    Of previous Women's CL finalists and trailblazers - Umeå, FCR Duisburg, Tyresö,
    all gone. FFC Frankfurt avoided that fate by affiliating themselves with Eintracht.

    Any idea who the nearest big German football club is to Potsdam? Who should we affiliate with?

    As Potsdam is basically a suburb of Berlin, the big Berlin clubs Hertha and Union would be
    the number one candidates, but Union already have their own women's team (and are geographically
    quite removed from Potsdam, at the other end of the city), and as written above Hertha don't
    want to get involved anymore.

    I have read about a new ambitious women's football project in Berlin with roots in Viktoria 1889,
    but it appears that they want to do their own thing, too.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mark on Tue May 16 16:23:32 2023
    Mark wrote:

    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:27:18 PM UTC+1, Blueshirt wrote:
    MH wrote:

    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?

    You could look it up, you know.
    Especially as Mark uses Google Groups to post here... how hard is it
    then to use Google search?!

    I'm technophobic. I'm not very good at finding things online.

    Well, you did find your answers here... so I suppose it's the next best
    thing! ;-)

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 16 23:51:13 2023
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:23:47 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?
    You could look it up, you know.

    But it is "first" [erste] (also found in the name of teams like Köln, Kaiserslautern) Frauenfussballclub (women's football club) - 71 is
    the year of founding (like Schalke 04, Hannover 96 and so on), and e.
    V. means eingetragener Verein (registered association)


    Why first? We're the only FFC Turbine Potsdam aren't we? Everybody knows we're not the 3rd one. It seems rather redundant.

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  • From Jesper Lauridsen@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 17 01:26:21 2023
    Nothing to do with the thread, but Google has brought back the reply button on mobile!

    OK, to be a little on topic, Frankfurt not only beat Wolfsburg this round, they did it 4-0! Big blow for Wolfsburg in the title race.

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Mark on Wed May 17 06:53:30 2023
    On Wednesday, May 17, 2023 at 8:51:15 AM UTC+2, Mark wrote:
    On Monday, May 15, 2023 at 3:23:47 PM UTC+1, MH wrote:
    On 2023-05-15 01:09, Mark wrote:
    Firstly, what does 1.FFC and 71 e.V. mean?
    You could look it up, you know.

    But it is "first" [erste] (also found in the name of teams like Köln, Kaiserslautern) Frauenfussballclub (women's football club) - 71 is
    the year of founding (like Schalke 04, Hannover 96 and so on), and e.
    V. means eingetragener Verein (registered association)


    Why first? We're the only FFC Turbine Potsdam aren't we? Everybody knows we're not the 3rd one. It seems rather redundant.

    It's mostly a bit of grandstanding, and almost exclusively a German thing.
    The majority of 1.FC's (Köln, Kaiserslautern, Saarbrücken, Magdeburg, Union Berlin,...) actually came onto the scene rather late, and often as a result of fusions
    (Köln in 1948, Kaiserslautern in 1931, Saarbrücken in 1945, Magdeburg in 1965,
    Union in 1966).

    So to call yourself "1.FC" might be something like a claim to seniority that's otherwise unfounded. Perhaps it happened on the model of 1. FC Nürnberg,
    which is a genuinely old club that has always been named that way.

    Turbine have called themselves 1.FFC only since 1999, likely following the example of 1. FFC Frankfurt.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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