• THE EPL 2023 / 2024 SOPHCON [R implied or direct]

    From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jul 22 12:04:54 2023
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    ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON ------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

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    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com on Sat Jul 22 14:20:01 2023
    In article <36anbihi9aarmaua5ddkc4n5vrg1nrcice@4ax.com>,
    anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote: >------------------------------------------------------------------
    ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON >------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE HERE: http://spc.elgunet.se/spc.html
    You might get a warning by your virus software, but there is
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    Send the entry (the filled-in spreadsheet with your moniker) here: >------------------------------------------------------------------
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    Before you submit, check that all the OKs are there.

    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.


    Of course the predictions are back!

    Hey MH! are the results in?

    Germany is answered for!

    Also when does the rest of Europe start?


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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 25 12:40:38 2023
    REMINDER!

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON >------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE HERE: http://spc.elgunet.se/spc.html
    You might get a warning by your virus software, but there is
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    course check the file with your own software to be certain. >------------------------------------------------------------------
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    The drill is well-known by now. (If not ask in the thread!)
    Welcome, Bots and Humans alike are!

    Send the entry (the filled-in spreadsheet with your moniker) here: >------------------------------------------------------------------
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    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 28 11:34:13 2023
    REMINDER!

    ------------------------------------------------------------------
    ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON >------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE HERE: http://spc.elgunet.se/spc.html
    You might get a warning by your virus software, but there is
    nothing fishy about the page/file. As always you should of
    course check the file with your own software to be certain. >------------------------------------------------------------------
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    The drill is well-known by now. (If not ask in the thread!)
    Welcome, Bots and Humans alike are!

    Send the entry (the filled-in spreadsheet with your moniker) here: >------------------------------------------------------------------
    anthu_001[ *-*-*-*- ]hotmail.com
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    Before you submit, check that all the OKs are there.

    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to anders t on Fri Jul 28 14:09:11 2023
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:34:18 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    REMINDER!

    Will start working on this soon!

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Thu Aug 3 22:32:00 2023
    On 2023-07-28 15:09, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:34:18 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    REMINDER!

    Will start working on this soon!

    I am halfway done.

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  • From Jesus Petry@21:1/5 to All on Fri Aug 4 04:57:40 2023
    Em sexta-feira, 4 de agosto de 2023 às 01:32:05 UTC-3, MH escreveu:
    On 2023-07-28 15:09, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:34:18 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    REMINDER!

    Will start working on this soon!
    I am halfway done.

    Like St. Lawrence?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lawrence#Martyrdom

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Sat Aug 5 12:21:03 2023
    REMINDER



    Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer:
    REMINDER!

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON >>------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >>SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE HERE: http://spc.elgunet.se/spc.html
    You might get a warning by your virus software, but there is
    nothing fishy about the page/file. As always you should of
    course check the file with your own software to be certain. >>------------------------------------------------------------------
    SHARPEN YOUR SOPHISTICATION! >>------------------------------------------------------------------

    The drill is well-known by now. (If not ask in the thread!)
    Welcome, Bots and Humans alike are!

    Send the entry (the filled-in spreadsheet with your moniker) here: >>------------------------------------------------------------------
    anthu_001[ *-*-*-*- ]hotmail.com >>------------------------------------------------------------------
    Replace [ *-*-*-*- ] with the at-symbol first.

    Before you submit, check that all the OKs are there.

    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Jesus Petry on Sun Aug 6 20:33:52 2023
    On 2023-08-04 05:57, Jesus Petry wrote:
    Em sexta-feira, 4 de agosto de 2023 às 01:32:05 UTC-3, MH escreveu:
    On 2023-07-28 15:09, Futbolmetrix wrote:
    On Friday, July 28, 2023 at 5:34:18 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    REMINDER!

    Will start working on this soon!
    I am halfway done.

    Like St. Lawrence?
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lawrence#Martyrdom

    Tchau!
    Jesus Petry
    Half baked might be a more precise description of my entry

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 10 14:34:47 2023
    ENTRIES SO FAR
    Goalprojection (by Steve J)
    Jesus P
    Michael H
    Werner P

    And mine:
    0,1995 0,5201 0,1000 0,1801 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0100 0,0001 0,0500 0,5685 0,3712 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2500 0,3996 0,3500
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,3500 0,4501 0,1995
    0,0001 0,0100 0,1000 0,2000 0,6897 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2500 0,4496 0,3000
    0,0001 0,1000 0,1000 0,4998 0,2000 0,1000 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,3500 0,4501 0,1995
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2500 0,4496 0,3000
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,3500 0,3996 0,2500
    0,1995 0,4501 0,1000 0,2501 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2000 0,3996 0,4000
    0,3999 0,5996 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001
    0,1995 0,5201 0,1000 0,1801 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,5390 0,2487 0,2119 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2500 0,3996 0,3500
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,2000 0,3996 0,4000
    0,0001 0,2500 0,2500 0,3769 0,1228 0,0001 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0500 0,6185 0,3311 0,0001
    0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,0001 0,3500 0,3996 0,2500
    (Might still change mine tomorrow, but I'll let you know if so.)




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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 10 14:30:42 2023
    REMINDER!



    Quoting anders t in rec.sport.soccer: >------------------------------------------------------------------
    ANNOUNCING - THE EPL 23/24 SOPHCON >------------------------------------------------------------------

    DEADLINE AT KICK-OFF OF THE ABSOLUTELY FIRST FIXTURE WHICH IS

    Friday 11 August 2023 - Burnley v Man City

    ------------------------------------------------------------------ >SPREADSHEET AVAILABLE HERE: http://spc.elgunet.se/spc.html
    You might get a warning by your virus software, but there is
    nothing fishy about the page/file. As always you should of
    course check the file with your own software to be certain. >------------------------------------------------------------------
    SHARPEN YOUR SOPHISTICATION! >------------------------------------------------------------------

    The drill is well-known by now. (If not ask in the thread!)
    Welcome, Bots and Humans alike are!

    Send the entry (the filled-in spreadsheet with your moniker) here: >------------------------------------------------------------------
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    As always: Luck has got nothing to do with it.

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to anders t on Thu Aug 10 06:26:27 2023
    On Thursday, August 10, 2023 at 8:34:51 AM UTC-4, anders t wrote:
    ENTRIES SO FAR
    Goalprojection (by Steve J)
    Jesus P
    Michael H
    Werner P


    Just sent mine in. Club Elo and TransferMarkyt versions hopefully soon and before deadline

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 23 22:31:24 2023
    Just in!

    STANDINGS AFTER ROUND 12

    CLELO -21,8035886683322 BOT
    FM___ -21,9374478984283 HUM
    GOPRO -22,8575639357266 BOT
    CLEL+ -23,7416959861234 BOT
    MH___ -24,9505018072949 HUM
    TRMAR -25,1627998168361 BOT
    WP___ -25,2920754437867 HUM
    TRMA+ -26,0080719777357 BOT
    JP___ -28,3917638014556 HUM
    AT___ -28,5838045887861 HUM



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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 08:29:40 2024
    I'll endeavour to submit the standings in due time before the last round.


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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 16 16:51:21 2024
    Standings after 37 rounds!

    TRMAR -19,6520381936815
    FM___ -21,2150188327753
    TRMA+ -22,5756783759849
    GOPRO -22,9413455916971
    CLELO -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+ -24,2376960063206
    WP___ -25,1897386430432
    AT___ -30,4897370084855
    JP___ -30,7455695460941
    MH___ -31,7074560733793


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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 21 23:03:39 2024
    FINAL STANDINGS

    TRMAR -19,6520381936815
    FM___ -21,2150188327753 --- Hell FM! Ruler Of The Human Universe!!
    TRMA+ -22,5756783759849
    GOPRO -22,9413455916971
    CLELO -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+ -24,2376960063206
    WP___ -25,1897386430432
    AT___ -30,4897370084855
    JP___ -30,7455695460941
    MH___ -31,7074560733793
    AGGIE -35,8422982536103 --- BWAHAHA!!!


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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 23 07:53:23 2024
    Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
    On 21.05.2024 23:03, anders t wrote:
    FINAL STANDINGS

    TRMAR -19,6520381936815
    FM___ -21,2150188327753 --- Hell FM! Ruler Of The Human Universe!!
    TRMA+ -22,5756783759849
    GOPRO -22,9413455916971
    CLELO -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+ -24,2376960063206
    WP___ -25,1897386430432
    AT___ -30,4897370084855

    Honest question, does your belief in Man United impact your performance
    in these?

    You judge:
    I had Man United at .1801 as 6-7 and .0001 as 8-12.
    Lost me about 8 points.

    Ciao,
    Werner


    JP___ -30,7455695460941
    MH___ -31,7074560733793
    AGGIE -35,8422982536103 --- BWAHAHA!!!



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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to anders t on Thu May 23 11:00:39 2024
    anders t <anthu_001@-nospam-hotmail.com> wrote:
    Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
    On 21.05.2024 23:03, anders t wrote:
    FINAL STANDINGS

    TRMAR -19,6520381936815
    FM___ -21,2150188327753 --- Hell FM! Ruler Of The Human Universe!! >>> TRMA+ -22,5756783759849
    GOPRO -22,9413455916971
    CLELO -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+ -24,2376960063206
    WP___ -25,1897386430432
    AT___ -30,4897370084855

    Honest question, does your belief in Man United impact your performance
    in these?

    You judge:
    I had Man United at .1801 as 6-7 and .0001 as 8-12.
    Lost me about 8 points.

    Ok so if you had flipped those two values around it
    would have been you instead of Daniele who would
    have become Best of the Hoomans?

    But to be fair, nobody would have realistically done
    that, so I guess the real question is how much did
    your probabilities deviate from the (overall, or just human) average?

    Ciao,
    Werner



    Ciao,
    Werner


    JP___ -30,7455695460941
    MH___ -31,7074560733793
    AGGIE -35,8422982536103 --- BWAHAHA!!!




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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu May 23 12:52:34 2024
    On 2024-05-22 16:07, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On 21.05.2024 23:03, anders t wrote:
    FINAL STANDINGS

    TRMAR    -19,6520381936815
    FM___    -21,2150188327753 --- Hell FM! Ruler Of The Human Universe!!
    TRMA+    -22,5756783759849
    GOPRO    -22,9413455916971
    CLELO    -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+    -24,2376960063206
    WP___    -25,1897386430432
    AT___    -30,4897370084855

    Honest question, does your belief in Man United impact your performance
    in these?

    Mine certainly did ! I assigned a very low probability to them being
    outside the top 7.
    Also scored poorly on Villa.


    Ciao,
    Werner


    JP___    -30,7455695460941
    MH___    -31,7074560733793
    AGGIE    -35,8422982536103 --- BWAHAHA!!!




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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to anders t on Fri May 24 19:12:25 2024
    anders t wrote:

    FINAL STANDINGS
    FM___ -21,2150188327753 --- Hell FM! Ruler Of The Human Universe!!

    Yay!


    TRMAR -19,6520381936815
    TRMA+ -22,5756783759849

    Interesting that TransferMarkt+, which is supposed to be a better
    prediction than simple TransferMarkt, did better here.


    CLELO -23,0226359504874
    CLEL+ -24,2376960063206

    Same for Club Elo and Club Elo+

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 27 19:56:00 2024
    HUMAN COLLECTIVE

    -23,7647

    0,4308 0,4430 0,0478 0,0322 0,0361 0,0101 0,0001 /// -0,8421 Man City
    0,1763 0,5300 0,0998 0,1262 0,0574 0,0102 0,0001 /// -0,6348 Arsenal 0,1599 0,4783 0,1290 0,1651 0,0573 0,0102 0,0001 /// -0,7375 Liverpool
    0,0013 0,0400 0,0361 0,1294 0,4912 0,2532 0,0488 /// -3,2194 Aston Villa
    0,0160 0,2460 0,1330 0,2907 0,2927 0,0210 0,0001 /// -2,0174 Tottenham
    0,0522 0,3220 0,1050 0,3270 0,1576 0,0362 0,0001 /// -1,1179 Chelsea 0,0181 0,3018 0,1505 0,2851 0,1575 0,0569 0,0302 /// -1,2548 Newcastle
    0,1419 0,4817 0,1340 0,1850 0,0473 0,0101 0,0001 /// -3,0512 Man United
    0,0011 0,0120 0,0111 0,0445 0,4596 0,3767 0,0950 /// -0,7773 West Ham
    0,0001 0,0112 0,0108 0,0270 0,3836 0,4019 0,1653 /// -0,9582 Crystal P
    0,0015 0,0302 0,0498 0,1702 0,5039 0,1880 0,0564 /// -0,6853 Brighton
    0,0001 0,0101 0,0103 0,0214 0,2550 0,4022 0,3010 /// -1,3665 Bournemouth
    0,0001 0,0101 0,0101 0,0309 0,3320 0,4319 0,1850 /// -0,8395 Fulham 0,0001 0,0110 0,0111 0,0220 0,3177 0,4290 0,2091 /// -0,8462 Wolverhampton
    0,0001 0,0203 0,0103 0,0294 0,3137 0,4243 0,2019 /// -0,8573 Everton 0,0001 0,0122 0,0112 0,0376 0,3726 0,3966 0,1697 /// -0,9249 Brentford
    0,0001 0,0101 0,0101 0,0201 0,2288 0,4138 0,3170 /// -0,8823 Nottingham
    0,0001 0,0101 0,0101 0,0183 0,1457 0,3311 0,4847 /// -0,7243 Luton 0,0001 0,0101 0,0101 0,0197 0,2107 0,4396 0,3097 /// -1,1722 Burnley 0,0001 0,0101 0,0101 0,0183 0,1797 0,3568 0,4250 /// -0,8557 Sheffield U


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