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    From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 07:17:34 2024
    First of all, how does Qatar get to host this, right after hosting the
    WM? If Germany for example hosted a WC and then was giv en the EURo's,
    you know Europe would be up in arms! IS Qatar even a country? Seems
    like some man made place in the sand, give it to a proper Footballing
    country like India, they even have a SUperliga, or at least did. Do
    they still have that liga? I seem to recall them signing a bunch of big
    name players for what was something like an 8 game season, many years ago.

    Speaking of India, they are playing Australia today in the Cricket Derby
    match
    0-0 at the moment in the 1st half. This is all early morning stuff for
    those of us living on the Iceberg ( big snow storm today by the way
    here, we have not had much snow yet this season, I think MH and the DOc,
    who are also on this tiny Iceberg are getting super cold weather?)

    So anyhow, back to the football. Interesting to note that they got
    chick refs in ASIACON, I think women do a far better job than men in
    almost anything, far more fair and conscientious beings than most men.
    They also have Japanese VARobots, Japanese make the best Robots.
    English make the worst Robots, they make the worst everything really.
    If you watch the WWEpl, the matches are almost always about the VAR, the matches in WWEpl are secondary, it is all about the drama of the VAR
    decisions. I can just see in a few years, WWEpl matches will be a split
    screen of the two managers, with a tinly little window in the corner of
    the screen showing the actual football match and it iwll not go to full
    screen until a VAR decision si being made and then of course the idiot commentators will go on about the shocking decision made by VAR.

    And what is with the idiot Limey commentators and "Centre Halves" do
    they even know what they are talking about? Do they know why the idiots actually called it Centre Half instead of Centre Back?? Incorrectly I
    might add, unless we are living in 1920. Also why is every second
    statement started with "If I am to be honest"? I was watching a lot of
    FA cup and WWEpl during the holiday break and if I am to be honest,
    every second statemnt was started with "If I am to be Honest" does it
    mean the rest of the shit they spew is not honest? Like for example how
    they call central defenders Centre halfs? Which they are not. Or how
    they just want to call out every VAR call, even if they have no clue
    what is a foul or not. Or even if they can not tell when a chance is a "sitter" or a difficult chance. I can tell you the difference, if it is
    a Non ENglish player missing the chance it was a Sitter, if it is an Englishman, if I am to be honest it was a terribly difficult chance for
    the Centre half.

    So anyhow, ASIACON, not sure why they are bothering, Japan or S Korea
    will win this, Qatar may as well disassemble the stadiums and send them
    off to Ivory Coast where they could be put to good use. I mean come on,
    ASIA does not know football, they are all WWEpl fans and actuall WWE
    fans, that is all I see on SONY Sports.

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Jan 13 09:36:44 2024
    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    Too early yet to project Australia as ASIACON champions. I know how sophisticated our projection machine is but it needs more info than just
    one game!



    On 2024-01-13 7:25 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    HUh, I can see my post on GG.

    0-0 at the half and if I am to be honest, India is doing quite well. Or if I was to be like a WWEpl commentator Australia is doing poorly...if I was to be honest but I chose not to.

    BTW, in Kanada the matches are on for free on YOUTUBE.

    On Saturday, January 13, 2024 at 7:17:38 a.m. UTC-5, Binder Dundat wrote:
    First of all, how does Qatar get to host this, right after hosting the
    WM? If Germany for example hosted a WC and then was giv en the EURo's,
    you know Europe would be up in arms! IS Qatar even a country? Seems
    like some man made place in the sand, give it to a proper Footballing
    country like India, they even have a SUperliga, or at least did. Do
    they still have that liga? I seem to recall them signing a bunch of big
    name players for what was something like an 8 game season, many years ago. >>
    Speaking of India, they are playing Australia today in the Cricket Derby
    match
    0-0 at the moment in the 1st half. This is all early morning stuff for
    those of us living on the Iceberg ( big snow storm today by the way
    here, we have not had much snow yet this season, I think MH and the DOc,
    who are also on this tiny Iceberg are getting super cold weather?)

    So anyhow, back to the football. Interesting to note that they got
    chick refs in ASIACON, I think women do a far better job than men in
    almost anything, far more fair and conscientious beings than most men.
    They also have Japanese VARobots, Japanese make the best Robots.
    English make the worst Robots, they make the worst everything really.
    If you watch the WWEpl, the matches are almost always about the VAR, the
    matches in WWEpl are secondary, it is all about the drama of the VAR
    decisions. I can just see in a few years, WWEpl matches will be a split
    screen of the two managers, with a tinly little window in the corner of
    the screen showing the actual football match and it iwll not go to full
    screen until a VAR decision si being made and then of course the idiot
    commentators will go on about the shocking decision made by VAR.

    And what is with the idiot Limey commentators and "Centre Halves" do
    they even know what they are talking about? Do they know why the idiots
    actually called it Centre Half instead of Centre Back?? Incorrectly I
    might add, unless we are living in 1920. Also why is every second
    statement started with "If I am to be honest"? I was watching a lot of
    FA cup and WWEpl during the holiday break and if I am to be honest,
    every second statemnt was started with "If I am to be Honest" does it
    mean the rest of the shit they spew is not honest? Like for example how
    they call central defenders Centre halfs? Which they are not. Or how
    they just want to call out every VAR call, even if they have no clue
    what is a foul or not. Or even if they can not tell when a chance is a
    "sitter" or a difficult chance. I can tell you the difference, if it is
    a Non ENglish player missing the chance it was a Sitter, if it is an
    Englishman, if I am to be honest it was a terribly difficult chance for
    the Centre half.

    So anyhow, ASIACON, not sure why they are bothering, Japan or S Korea
    will win this, Qatar may as well disassemble the stadiums and send them
    off to Ivory Coast where they could be put to good use. I mean come on,
    ASIA does not know football, they are all WWEpl fans and actuall WWE
    fans, that is all I see on SONY Sports.

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  • From Real_Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 15:57:18 2024
    I'm there with you in spirit, but sadly in the UK this is being broadcast on a streaming service I'd never heard of before.

    What you used to be able to watch with a subscription to Sky and BT Sports (as it was called then) you now need those two, Viaplay, Amazon Prime and about three or four other streaming services. Unfortunately the way football broadcast rights are sold
    creates a paradox where more providers eventually actually becomes a bad thing for the consumer.


    RM

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 13 18:32:07 2024
    Real_Mardin wrote:

    Unfortunately the way football broadcast rights are sold creates a
    paradox where more providers eventually actually becomes a bad
    thing for the consumer.

    Correct.

    With Premier League TV rights the European Commission brought in
    rules to "protect the consumer" and embrace "competition" which
    effectively stopped Sky Sports from buying all of the available
    packages. (Previously Sky had exclusive rights to live games in the
    UK as no rival broadcasters could out-bid them.) The EC said
    exclusive rights was anti-competitive. So in 2023/24 to watch all of
    the broadcast live Premier League games in the UK you need THREE
    subscriptions, Sky Sports, TNT Sports and Amazon Prime. That's really
    helping the consumer isn't it?

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sun Jan 14 11:37:59 2024
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    So Australia only scored 2 runs in their 2nd innings, and still won?! :-)

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Mark on Thu Jan 18 19:45:56 2024
    Meanwhile in ASIACON, Palestine has a team and they actually got a point
    vs UAE. It is just too bad Israel know longer plays in Asia.

    WE are projecting Australia, Japan or S Korea to win. WE are not buying
    into Qatar.




    On 2024-01-14 6:37 a.m., Mark wrote:
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    So Australia only scored 2 runs in their 2nd innings, and still won?! :-)

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Fri Jan 19 12:57:30 2024
    On 2024-01-18 7:45 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Meanwhile in ASIACON, Palestine has a team and they actually got a point
    vs UAE.  It is just too bad Israel know longer plays in Asia.

    WE are projecting Australia, Japan or S Korea to win.  WE are not buying into Qatar.


    The Projection machine may need re-calibration.





    On 2024-01-14 6:37 a.m., Mark wrote:
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    So Australia only scored 2 runs in their 2nd innings, and still won?! :-)


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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Jan 20 08:02:41 2024
    Wait a min...whaaat Jordan leading S korea 2-1???


    Wait again, whaaat Jurgen Klinsmann is the South Korea manager?????


    On 2024-01-19 12:57 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-01-18 7:45 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Meanwhile in ASIACON, Palestine has a team and they actually got a
    point vs UAE.  It is just too bad Israel know longer plays in Asia.

    WE are projecting Australia, Japan or S Korea to win.  WE are not
    buying into Qatar.


    The Projection machine may need re-calibration.





    On 2024-01-14 6:37 a.m., Mark wrote:
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    So Australia only scored 2 runs in their 2nd innings, and still won?!
    :-)



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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Sat Jan 20 08:50:30 2024
    Wiat, whaaat, there is a thing called K-Pop and it is really popular????
    I do seem to recall that Korean guy with the horse song or whatever it
    was years ago.

    Anyhow, S Korea k poped in a goal and came away with a 2-2 draw, Jordan
    was good value for the point and maybe more. Kilinsmann doesnt look
    like he wanted to be there or that he cares that much, when Koreea tied
    the match up it was kinda like he was watching a kids game the way he celebrated, you know not like a Klopp celebration.

    Projection machines mean nothing in ASIACON.



    On 2024-01-20 8:02 a.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Wait a min...whaaat Jordan leading S korea 2-1???


    Wait again, whaaat Jurgen Klinsmann is the South Korea manager?????


    On 2024-01-19 12:57 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    On 2024-01-18 7:45 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
    Meanwhile in ASIACON, Palestine has a team and they actually got a
    point vs UAE.  It is just too bad Israel know longer plays in Asia.

    WE are projecting Australia, Japan or S Korea to win.  WE are not
    buying into Qatar.


    The Projection machine may need re-calibration.





    On 2024-01-14 6:37 a.m., Mark wrote:
    Binder Dundat wrote:

    Relatively easy win for the Aussies in the Cricket Derby 2-0.

    So Australia only scored 2 runs in their 2nd innings, and still
    won?! :-)




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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Jan 26 11:05:43 2024
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Saturday, January 20, 2024 at 2:50:32 PM UTC+1, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Wiat, whaaat, there is a thing called K-Pop and it is really popular????
    I do seem to recall that Korean guy with the horse song or whatever it
    was years ago.

    Anyhow, S Korea k poped in a goal and came away with a 2-2 draw, Jordan
    was good value for the point and maybe more. Kilinsmann doesnt look
    like he wanted to be there or that he cares that much, when Koreea tied
    the match up it was kinda like he was watching a kids game the way he
    celebrated, you know not like a Klopp celebration.

    Projection machines mean nothing in ASIACON.

    Projecting China to disappoint appears to yield consistently good results?



    China go out without having scored a single goal.
    Truth be told, they were actually quite close to
    progressing without having scored a single goal.


    Round of 16

    Sunday

    Australia v Indonesia

    Tajikistan v UAE


    Monday

    Iraq v Jordan

    Qatar v Palestine


    Tuesday

    Uzbekistan v Thailand

    Saudi-Arabia v South Korea
    (Mancini v Klinsmann)


    Wednesday

    Bahrain v Japan

    Iran v Syria



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu Feb 1 19:22:20 2024
    Unlike Afcon, I can tell you who makes the final, Japan and S Korea will
    make the final.



    On 2024-01-30 2:49 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
    On 26.01.2024 12:05, Werner Pichler wrote:
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:


    Round of 16


    Tuesday

    Saudi-Arabia v South Korea
    (Mancini v Klinsmann)

    Klinsmann is like a cat with nine lives.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Fri Feb 2 12:04:39 2024
    On 2024-02-02 07:53, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On 02.02.2024 01:22, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Unlike Afcon, I can tell you who makes the final, Japan and S Korea
    will make the final.

    South Korea hasn't won the competition since 1960, so the title would be quite the feather in Klinsmann's crown.

    Another late comeback - 96th minute penalty , then OT winner for South
    Korea. Poor Australia.
    I am getting really suspicious about the number of games decided by
    penalties awarded in time added on these days. Anyone keeping track on
    how many are straightforward, and how many are controversial VAR awarded
    ones?
    Is it just confirmation bias, or are far more penalties awarded late in
    games. Is it naive to assume their distribution is or should be fairly
    random in games? I guess bad tackles would happen more frequently as
    players tire, but a huge fraction of of pens seem to be for "hand-balls"
    (some extremely harsh based on old definitions of handball, or even new
    ones), and that would be more likely to be random.

    As for predicting the outcome of the tournament, I would not discount
    Iran. Sure their group was easy and they did not win convincingly in the
    round of 16, but Japan has been conceding a lot of goals for one of the stronger teams in the region.

    Anyone fancy Uzbekistan?


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sat Feb 3 09:03:27 2024
    OMG, in case you did not hear or witness it, today the biggest upset in
    the history of football occurred! Another late penalty (96min) gifted
    Iran a 2-1 win over Japan in the QF's, football world will never be the
    same after this result.




    On 2024-02-02 2:41 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
    On 02.02.2024 20:04, MH wrote:
    On 2024-02-02 07:53, Werner Pichler wrote:
    On 02.02.2024 01:22, Binder Dundat wrote:
    Unlike Afcon, I can tell you who makes the final, Japan and S Korea
    will make the final.

    South Korea hasn't won the competition since 1960, so the title would be >>> quite the feather in Klinsmann's crown.

    Another late comeback -  96th minute penalty , then OT winner for
    South Korea.   Poor Australia.

    Nine lives.

    I am getting really suspicious about the number of games decided by
    penalties awarded in time added on these days.  Anyone keeping track
    on how many are straightforward, and how many are controversial VAR
    awarded ones?

    Nothing controversial about this one, at least

    https://streamin.me/v/dc25b5c8

    Lewis Miller, from Hibs, then also conceded the free-kick at the edge
    of the box that Son curled in for the extra time winner.


    Is it just confirmation bias, or are far more penalties awarded late
    in games.  Is it naive to assume their distribution is or should be
    fairly random in games?  I guess bad tackles would happen more
    frequently as players tire, but a huge fraction of of pens seem to be
    for "hand-balls" (some extremely harsh based on old definitions of
    handball, or even new ones), and that would be more likely to be random.

    Well, there's also the length of the VAR checks which makes it more
    likely that the penalty won't be taken until far into stoppage time.


    As for predicting the outcome of the tournament, I would not discount
    Iran. Sure their group was easy and they did not win convincingly in
    the round of 16, but Japan has been conceding a lot of goals for one
    of the stronger teams in the region.

    Anyone fancy Uzbekistan?

    Also, best ever Asian Cup for Jordan, with a squad from mostly their
    domestic league. Can't say I know anything about them.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Mark on Mon Feb 5 09:57:18 2024
    Mark wrote:

    I predict South Korea will win the Asian nations Cup.

    I predict a team from Asia will win the Asian Nations Cup!

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Tue Feb 6 19:59:18 2024
    Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
    Unlike Afcon, I can tell you who makes the final, Japan and S Korea will
    make the final.


    Well, look at that, no last-second equaliser this time.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Tue Feb 6 19:53:55 2024
    OMG, in case you did not hear or witness it, today the biggest upset in
    the history of football occurred! Jordania beat Sud Korea 2-0 in the
    Semi final of Asiacon. I would say this result is a much much bigger
    upset than the USA beating England in the World Cup. I mean this is
    without doubt the biggest upset in the history of football!



    On 2024-02-06 2:59 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
    Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
    Unlike Afcon, I can tell you who makes the final, Japan and S Korea will
    make the final.


    Well, look at that, no last-second equaliser this time.

    Ciao,
    Werner


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  • From HASM@21:1/5 to Binder Dundat on Wed Feb 7 16:45:58 2024
    Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> writes:

    the biggest upset in the history of football occurred! Jordania beat
    Sud Korea 2-0 in the Semi final of Asiacon.

    A mere 58 ELO points exchanged.

    Glancing through the recent results, South Africa beating Morocco
    resulted in a 65 points exchange, and Equatorial Guinea beating the
    Ivory Coast (that was able to make to the final) resulted in a 69 points exchange.

    -- HASM

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