The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team squads, probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not
certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
You all probably want to know about the host cities and stadiums, I will
try and get to that in the next few weeks, though this thing starts in a little over 2 weeks and it is cottage season, so where will I find the time?
Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after
France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team
squads,
probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not
certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the
Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
No, no, no. Not without Alaba and X. Schlager.
We‘d be more than happy to somehow get out of the group.
Ciao,
Werner
You all probably want to know about the host cities and stadiums, I
will
try and get to that in the next few weeks, though this thing starts in
a
little over 2 weeks and it is cottage season, so where will I find the
time?
The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after
France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team
squads,
probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not
certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
You all probably want to know about the host cities and stadiums, I
will
try and get to that in the next few weeks, though this thing starts in
a
little over 2 weeks and it is cottage season, so where will I find the
time?
Werner Pichler wrote:
Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after
France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team
squads,
probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not
certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the
Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
No, no, no. Not without Alaba and X. Schlager.
We‘d be more than happy to somehow get out of the group.
Well fair enough, but this is the Euros where surprise winners do come
up and it feels like we’re about due one. If not Austria then who? Switzerland? Ukraine?
Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after
France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team
squads,
probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not
certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the
Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
No, no, no. Not without Alaba and X. Schlager.
We‘d be more than happy to somehow get out of the group.
Well fair enough, but this is the Euros where surprise winners do come
up and it feels like we’re about due one. If not Austria then who?
Switzerland? Ukraine?
I don’t believe there will be a major surprise, but if I
absolutely had to bet on one I‘d probably pick
Hungary.
Ciao,
Werner
The big event this summer is in Germany, which seems to get to host a
lot of these Euro and World Cups, like when is the last time Spain
hosted a major competition?
Every country in Europe except for England have won a Euro even
Portugal, Czechs,Greece and Denmark, but this time England are
favourites to win it. Somehow Germany are third favourites after France.
It seems most of the teams are first picking preliminary 30 team squads, probably the biggest question on everyones mind is did the Dutch pick
Win Weghorst. They did, but it is just the 30 man sqaud so it is not certain he will be there in the end.
I have to admit, England look a good pick to win it, I would say the Portuguese look like a good team, maybe even the Dutch. My longshot
pick has to be Austria.
You all probably want to know about the host cities and stadiums, I will
try and get to that in the next few weeks, though this thing starts in a little over 2 weeks and it is cottage season, so where will I find the
time?
On 02.06.2024 20:02, Binder Dundat wrote:
I just made a league for Euro fantasy football, though i dont think
many of the teams have been named yet? I just did an autopick and i
got Marcus Rashford as one of my forward
here is the link
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/eurofantasy/leagues/sFGQVL/007200730073/binder
Here is the code, the league is called rss
sFGQVL
I'm in!
The current list of available players looks very much not up to date.
Ciao,
Werner
The pre tournament friendlies have started and based upon today's games,
we can safely say Germany will not get out of the group stage.
Ok, it is friendlies and they were missing the Real and BVB players, but
the only bright spot was Maxi Beier. Now maybe they were just taking it easy or maybe Ukrania is better than I thought, but a very ho hum 0-0
draw.
Meanwhile Scotland beat up Gibraltar 2-0 and are being projected as
group winners. Elsewhere, England won 3-0 vs Bosnia and Croatia beat N Macedonia 2-0.
On 2024-06-03 4:20 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
On 02.06.2024 20:02, Binder Dundat wrote:
I just made a league for Euro fantasy football, though i dont think
many of the teams have been named yet? I just did an autopick and i
got Marcus Rashford as one of my forward
here is the link
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/eurofantasy/leagues/sFGQVL/007200730073/binder >>>
Here is the code, the league is called rss
sFGQVL
I'm in!
The current list of available players looks very much not up to date.
It looks that way, but has any team actually named their 23 players yet?
AS for this thing, it appears that you can make all sorts of transfers between match days. having said that, I found it easy to make a team
with mostly all the players I wanted and stay within budget.
Also I think it may be easy to pick players who will not play, I picked Portuguese and Dutch keepers, but I dont even know if they will start?
Ciao,
Werner
Not being one to overreact to friendly results, but we can safely
declare Austria EURO 24 winners.
Now if only I could find a stream that is working to watch the actual
match.
AUT 2 - 0 SRB 20 min
On 2024-06-03 5:44 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
The pre tournament friendlies have started and based upon today's
games, we can safely say Germany will not get out of the group stage.
Ok, it is friendlies and they were missing the Real and BVB players,
but the only bright spot was Maxi Beier. Now maybe they were just
taking it easy or maybe Ukrania is better than I thought, but a very
ho hum 0-0 draw.
Meanwhile Scotland beat up Gibraltar 2-0 and are being projected as
group winners. Elsewhere, England won 3-0 vs Bosnia and Croatia beat
N Macedonia 2-0.
On 2024-06-03 4:20 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
On 02.06.2024 20:02, Binder Dundat wrote:
I just made a league for Euro fantasy football, though i dont think
many of the teams have been named yet? I just did an autopick and i
got Marcus Rashford as one of my forward
here is the link
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/eurofantasy/leagues/sFGQVL/007200730073/binder >>>>
Here is the code, the league is called rss
sFGQVL
I'm in!
The current list of available players looks very much not up to date.
It looks that way, but has any team actually named their 23 players yet?
AS for this thing, it appears that you can make all sorts of transfers
between match days. having said that, I found it easy to make a team
with mostly all the players I wanted and stay within budget.
Also I think it may be easy to pick players who will not play, I
picked Portuguese and Dutch keepers, but I dont even know if they will
start?
Ciao,
Werner
On 2024-06-04 3:05 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
Not being one to overreact to friendly results, but we can safely
declare Austria EURO 24 winners.
Things have changed and this has nothing to do with meaningless friendly results, but we are now projecting Switzerland to win the Euro 2-4
and it shlould be called two four, that is what we call it here on the Iceberg. Which is now 30 C at night.
Now if only I could find a stream that is working to watch the actual
match.
AUT 2 - 0 SRB 20 min
On 2024-06-03 5:44 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
The pre tournament friendlies have started and based upon today's
games, we can safely say Germany will not get out of the group stage.
Ok, it is friendlies and they were missing the Real and BVB players,
but the only bright spot was Maxi Beier. Now maybe they were just
taking it easy or maybe Ukrania is better than I thought, but a very
ho hum 0-0 draw.
Meanwhile Scotland beat up Gibraltar 2-0 and are being projected as
group winners. Elsewhere, England won 3-0 vs Bosnia and Croatia beat
N Macedonia 2-0.
On 2024-06-03 4:20 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
On 02.06.2024 20:02, Binder Dundat wrote:
I just made a league for Euro fantasy football, though i dont think
many of the teams have been named yet? I just did an autopick and
i got Marcus Rashford as one of my forward
here is the link
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/eurofantasy/leagues/sFGQVL/007200730073/binder >>>>>
Here is the code, the league is called rss
sFGQVL
I'm in!
The current list of available players looks very much not up to date.
It looks that way, but has any team actually named their 23 players yet? >>> AS for this thing, it appears that you can make all sorts of
transfers between match days. having said that, I found it easy to
make a team with mostly all the players I wanted and stay within budget. >>>
Also I think it may be easy to pick players who will not play, I
picked Portuguese and Dutch keepers, but I dont even know if they
will start?
Ciao,
Werner
On 06.06.2024 21:40, Binder Dundat wrote:
Only two friendly matches today for Euro teams.
At HT Kanada is holding their own against the Dutch 0-0, Dutch with
more chances and possession but Kanada had a chance or two. Could be
a good confidence builder before the Copa match vs the Argies. I know
Lily White is against the Jesse Marsh appointment.
I had missed that! Interesting. Marsch is a very likeable guy on a
personal level, but I've stated a couple of times that I more than
doubt his tactical nous. Perhaps his people skills are worth more
on the NT level?
But I thought you guys were anyway holding out for Ancelotti at some
point taking a cushy retirement job.
I think the Dutch are a favourite, but we are not projecting them to
win the EURO two-four
Despite the 4-0 over Canada, they are the ones we secretly hope to
be able to upset in the group. France are a number too big.
I noticed that the English have named their EURO squad,
No Grealish, no Maguire. Fantasy Scout repercussions?
Ciao,
Werner
so I assume others have or will be doing so soon as well.
On 07.06.2024 00:21, Binder Dundat wrote:
On 2024-06-06 4:55 p.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
On 06.06.2024 21:40, Binder Dundat wrote:
Only two friendly matches today for Euro teams.
At HT Kanada is holding their own against the Dutch 0-0, Dutch with
more chances and possession but Kanada had a chance or two. Could
be a good confidence builder before the Copa match vs the Argies. I
know Lily White is against the Jesse Marsh appointment.
I had missed that! Interesting. Marsch is a very likeable guy on a
personal level, but I've stated a couple of times that I more than
doubt his tactical nous. Perhaps his people skills are worth more
on the NT level?
But I thought you guys were anyway holding out for Ancelotti at some
point taking a cushy retirement job.
I think the Dutch are a favourite, but we are not projecting them to
win the EURO two-four
Despite the 4-0 over Canada, they are the ones we secretly hope to
be able to upset in the group. France are a number too big.
I thought Kanada looked better in the 2nd half despite giving up the 4
goals, at least in as much that they tried to take the game to the
Dutch. The problem was they had no finishing tough or final pass and
when they gave up possession Holland scored on every counter attack.
For the Copa I suggest they opt for a rope a dope style, with no
attacking and hope to secure 0-0 in every match.
Yeah that's not what Jesse Marsch teams do, I don't think.
Since I couldn't remember a single scoreless draw during his time at
either Salzburg or Leipzig I checked on Transfermarkt, and it turns out
I was wrong, there was actually one (out of 114 matches).
For me the quintessential Jesse Marsch match was Salzburg in the
Champions League away at Liverpool, where they were 0-3 down after 35 minutes, he gave a motivational halftime speech that with the help of a little Red Bull marketing later went viral ('This is not a fucking Freundschaftsspiel!'), Minamino and Haaland actually scored to make it
3-3 and in the end they still lost 3-4 because Szoboszlai needlessly
lost the ball to Salah.
Marsch games in Europe were almost always frantic, high-octane,
entertaining, and immature.
But perhaps he's calmed down, I also see that Leeds have played several
0-0s under his tenure.
Ciao,
Werner
Not being one to overreact to friendly results, but we can safely
declare Austria EURO 24 winners.
Binder Dundat wrote:
Not being one to overreact to friendly results, but we can safelyAnd Uruguay Copa America winners? They beat Mexico 4-0.
declare Austria EURO 24 winners.
And we wont be projecting Germany to win the EURO if they dont beat
Greece today. I am guessing that the line up is J-Nags team, The Real
and BVB guys are back, some are even starting.
Binder Dundat wrote:
And we wont be projecting Germany to win the EURO if they dont beat
Greece today. I am guessing that the line up is J-Nags team, The Real
and BVB guys are back, some are even starting.
Germany was down 1-0 at half time, Havertz has just made it 1-1.
Projection for Germany not looking too good. But not as bad as England,
down 1-0 to Iceland after 60 mins...
Binder Dundat wrote:
And we wont be projecting Germany to win the EURO if they dont beat
Greece today. I am guessing that the line up is J-Nags team, The Real
and BVB guys are back, some are even starting.
Germany was down 1-0 at half time, Havertz has just made it 1-1.
Projection for Germany not looking too good. But not as bad as England,
down 1-0 to Iceland after 60 mins...
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Germany was down 1-0 at half time, Havertz has just made it
1-1. Projection for Germany not looking too good. But not
as bad as England, down 1-0 to Iceland after 60 mins...
We‘re projecting England to… do like England always do?
Werner Pichler wrote:
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Germany was down 1-0 at half time, Havertz has just made it
1-1. Projection for Germany not looking too good. But not
as bad as England, down 1-0 to Iceland after 60 mins...
We‘re projecting England to… do like England always do?
Of course.
You don't believe the hype and actually think they're gonna win
it do you?
35 minutes played, Spain 4 - Northern Ireland 1
Binder, what does the super computer think about this?
RM
35 minutes played, Spain 4 - Northern Ireland 1
Binder, what does the super computer think about this?
RM
On 2024-06-08 4:07 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
35 minutes played, Spain 4 - Northern Ireland 1
Binder, what does the super computer think about this?
In the end it was 5-1 and they are now projected winners.
Interestingly
or maybe not since they are only friendlies, but the betting odds have
not been changed at all by the results over the last few days, England
still favourites, Germany 3rd and as far as I can tell nothing has
changed. Based on what i saw, I think Croatia has to be a good pick.
RM
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players: https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
Median squad heights: https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1dcll1c/euro_2024_median_squad_heights/
Just to revive the Spanish midget meme!
--
Cheers
milivella
On 14/06/2024 11:56, Werner Pichler wrote:
On 03.06.2024 22:20, Werner Pichler wrote:
On 02.06.2024 20:02, Binder Dundat wrote:
I just made a league for Euro fantasy football, though i dont think
many of the teams have been named yet? I just did an autopick and i
got Marcus Rashford as one of my forward
here is the link
https://gaming.uefa.com/en/eurofantasy/leagues/sFGQVL/007200730073/binder >>>>
Here is the code, the league is called rss
sFGQVL
I'm in!
The current list of available players looks very much not up to date.
Guys, don't forget to update this. I almost did.
Thanks for the reminder!
Tchau!
Jesus Petry
Binder Dundat:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football,
it would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper,
they really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains
why the English need foreign managers and referees.
Shh, you're ruin my plan to bring this ng to football ignorance in order
to win the next cycle of Fantasy Scout!
Median squad heights:
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1dcll1c/euro_2024_median_squad_heights/
Just to revive the Spanish midget meme!
I dont trust those numbers at all and not just cus it comes from
Reddit, which rates right up there with English newspapers as far as
"r/soccer knowledge goes. There are maybe 3 guys on the Spanish team
above 1.80, how is the median 1.81?
Indeed there are many mysteries involving Spain NT... The day their
heights were recorded, only 13 of them were present, and they all had
four arms!
Anyhow, I think this was the final day for teams in the EUro playing
friendlies and so we are Projecting Portugal to win it all.
So you are not Forecasting France, Divining Denmark, Anticipating
Austria, Speculating Spain, Envisioning England, Imagining Italy, Conjecturing Croatia, or Guessing Germany?!
--
Cheers
milivella
After the first round of matches we are projecting Germany vs
Spain/Rumania final.
On 2024-06-12 10:10 p.m., milivella wrote:
Binder Dundat:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football,
it would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper,
they really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains
why the English need foreign managers and referees.
Shh, you're ruin my plan to bring this ng to football ignorance in
order to win the next cycle of Fantasy Scout!
Median squad heights:
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1dcll1c/euro_2024_median_squad_heights/
Just to revive the Spanish midget meme!
I dont trust those numbers at all and not just cus it comes from
Reddit, which rates right up there with English newspapers as far as
"r/soccer knowledge goes. There are maybe 3 guys on the Spanish team
above 1.80, how is the median 1.81?
Indeed there are many mysteries involving Spain NT... The day their
heights were recorded, only 13 of them were present, and they all had
four arms!
Anyhow, I think this was the final day for teams in the EUro playing
friendlies and so we are Projecting Portugal to win it all.
So you are not Forecasting France, Divining Denmark, Anticipating
Austria, Speculating Spain, Envisioning England, Imagining Italy,
Conjecturing Croatia, or Guessing Germany?!
--
Cheers
milivella
After the first round of matches we are projecting Germany vs
Spain/Rumania final.
On 2024-06-12 10:10 p.m., milivella wrote:
Binder Dundat:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football,
it would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper,
they really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains
why the English need foreign managers and referees.
Shh, you're ruin my plan to bring this ng to football ignorance in
order to win the next cycle of Fantasy Scout!
Median squad heights:
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1dcll1c/euro_2024_median_squad_heights/
Just to revive the Spanish midget meme!
I dont trust those numbers at all and not just cus it comes from
Reddit, which rates right up there with English newspapers as far as
"r/soccer knowledge goes. There are maybe 3 guys on the Spanish team
above 1.80, how is the median 1.81?
Indeed there are many mysteries involving Spain NT... The day their
heights were recorded, only 13 of them were present, and they all had
four arms!
Anyhow, I think this was the final day for teams in the EUro playing
friendlies and so we are Projecting Portugal to win it all.
So you are not Forecasting France, Divining Denmark, Anticipating
Austria, Speculating Spain, Envisioning England, Imagining Italy,
Conjecturing Croatia, or Guessing Germany?!
--
Cheers
milivella
For those watching on the Iceberg and if you where I am, the Iceberg is
more like a steam room. the Kanadian TSN guys are so much more aware of
the football they are watching than the Limey Scot TSN guys who have no
idea about what they are watchin
On 2024-06-18 6:48 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
After the first round of matches we are projecting Germany vs
Spain/Rumania final.
On 2024-06-12 10:10 p.m., milivella wrote:
Binder Dundat:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about
football, it would be the Guardian and every other English
scribbling paper, they really have no clue when it comes to
football. Probably explains why the English need foreign managers
and referees.
Shh, you're ruin my plan to bring this ng to football ignorance in
order to win the next cycle of Fantasy Scout!
Median squad heights:
https://old.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1dcll1c/euro_2024_median_squad_heights/
Just to revive the Spanish midget meme!
I dont trust those numbers at all and not just cus it comes from
Reddit, which rates right up there with English newspapers as far as
"r/soccer knowledge goes. There are maybe 3 guys on the Spanish
team above 1.80, how is the median 1.81?
Indeed there are many mysteries involving Spain NT... The day their
heights were recorded, only 13 of them were present, and they all had
four arms!
Anyhow, I think this was the final day for teams in the EUro playing
friendlies and so we are Projecting Portugal to win it all.
So you are not Forecasting France, Divining Denmark, Anticipating
Austria, Speculating Spain, Envisioning England, Imagining Italy,
Conjecturing Croatia, or Guessing Germany?!
--
Cheers
milivella
Where have all the penalties gone?
So far there have been only two (one converted by
Havertz, one missed/disallowed by Petković), and
we’ve now gone 15 matches without a single one.
In contrast, in the last couple of tournaments spot
kicks were awarded in every third match or so (19 in
64 matches at the 2022 World Cup, 16 in 51 games
at EURO 2020/1, and a record 29 in 64 matches at
the 2018 World Cup).
Statistical blip, or are defenders wising up to VAR?
Ciao,
Werner
BREAKING NEWS:
WE ARE NOW PROJECTING AUSTRIA TO WIN EURO 2024!
ÖSTERREICH DER CHAMPION EURO 2024!
Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
BREAKING NEWS:
WE ARE NOW PROJECTING AUSTRIA TO WIN EURO 2024!
ÖSTERREICH DER CHAMPION EURO 2024!
A calm and collected prediction, just as I like it.
More seriously, getting out of the group was always the main goal, and I do like our chances now (even
though it’s still far from mathematically certain).
I have to admit I’m also a little surprised by all the
praise we appear to be getting from international
media. Up to the 2-1, which came pretty much out of nowhere, it was not exactly a great performance.
But perhaps getting a result out of matches in which
you’re not playing at your best is indeed the hallmark
of a decent team.
Ciao,
Werner
Slight update to our earlier projection after the 1st round of matches.
We now have Germany playing Spain/Portugal in the final. We are no
longer projecting Roumania as finalists.
In my pool, I have Germany drawing today and Hungaria winning. But in
my pool I also had Croatia winning their group.
On 2024-06-22 10:13 a.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
BREAKING NEWS:
WE ARE NOW PROJECTING AUSTRIA TO WIN EURO 2024!
ÖSTERREICH DER CHAMPION EURO 2024!
A calm and collected prediction, just as I like it.
More seriously, getting out of the group was always the main goal, and
I
do
like our chances now (even
though it’s still far from mathematically certain).
I have to admit I’m also a little surprised by all the
praise we appear to be getting from international
media. Up to the 2-1, which came pretty much out of nowhere, it was not
exactly a great performance.
But perhaps getting a result out of matches in which
you’re not playing at your best is indeed the hallmark
of a decent team.
Ciao,
Werner
Binder Dundat wrote:
Slight update to our earlier projection after the 1st round of matches.
We now have Germany playing Spain/Portugal in the final. We are no
longer projecting Roumania as finalists.
Isn’t the problem that Germany/ Spain / Portugal have either won their groups or are on course to do so, meaning they’re on the same side of
the tournament bracket? As things stand Germany - Spain could be the
quarter final and Portugal could potentially play the winner in the semi final.
Given the brackets and projected finishes Germany / Spain / Portugal v England / France / Netherlands looks a more likely final.
RM
In my pool, I have Germany drawing today and Hungaria winning. But in
my pool I also had Croatia winning their group.
On 2024-06-22 10:13 a.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
Real_Mardin <realmardinrss@proton.me> wrote:
BREAKING NEWS:
WE ARE NOW PROJECTING AUSTRIA TO WIN EURO 2024!
ÖSTERREICH DER CHAMPION EURO 2024!
A calm and collected prediction, just as I like it.
More seriously, getting out of the group was always the main goal, and
I
do
like our chances now (even
though it’s still far from mathematically certain).
I have to admit I’m also a little surprised by all the
praise we appear to be getting from international
media. Up to the 2-1, which came pretty much out of nowhere, it was not
exactly a great performance.
But perhaps getting a result out of matches in which
you’re not playing at your best is indeed the hallmark
of a decent team.
Ciao,
Werner
On 2024-06-23 11:33 a.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
Isn’t the problem that Germany/ Spain / Portugal have either
won their groups or are on course to do so, meaning they’re
on the same side of the tournament bracket? As things stand
Germany - Spain could be the quarter final and Portugal
could potentially play the winner in the semi final.
We have not factored that into our projections, but if true,
then there appears to be an easier side to the draw.
Binder Dundat wrote:
On 2024-06-23 11:33 a.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
Isn’t the problem that Germany/ Spain / Portugal have either
won their groups or are on course to do so, meaning they’re
on the same side of the tournament bracket? As things stand
Germany - Spain could be the quarter final and Portugal
could potentially play the winner in the semi final.
We have not factored that into our projections, but if true,
then there appears to be an easier side to the draw.
Looks like Nagelsmann has factored it in!
How is the Netherlands - the tallest nation on Earth
So what do we know so far?
Rd of 16 matches
Italy v Switzerland
Germany v Denmark
That is all we know.
WE are projecting Spain to win the EURO 24, but since there are no real favorites, we cant confirm Spain as champions. We are starting to see
pushes for Austria, but we are still following that.
Our award for most boring group in EURO 24 goes to Group C.
Congrats Groupe C! One win out of all games, no team scoring more than 1
goal in a game. Scoreless draws on the final match day, never before in
the history of football has one group accomplished so little. WE cant
really tell is it due to the teams being so good and it being such a
tough group or was it down to each team being just as bad as the next?
Binder Dundat wrote:
Germany scored more goals on its own than the whole of Group C put
together!
Real_Mardin wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
Germany scored more goals on its own than the whole of Group C put
together!
The final table of Group C has a striking resemblance to the final table
of Group F in the 1990 World Cup:
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 5
2 Denmark 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Slovenia 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Serbia 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 4
2 Ireland 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Netherlands 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Egypt 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
Real_Mardin wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
Germany scored more goals on its own than the whole of Group C put
together!
The final table of Group C has a striking resemblance to the final table
of Group F in the 1990 World Cup:
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 5
2 Denmark 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Slovenia 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Serbia 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 4
2 Ireland 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Netherlands 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Egypt 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Real_Mardin wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
Germany scored more goals on its own than the whole of Group C put
together!
The final table of Group C has a striking resemblance to the final table
of Group F in the 1990 World Cup:
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 5
2 Denmark 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Slovenia 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Serbia 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 4
2 Ireland 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Netherlands 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Egypt 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
Back then Ireland and the Netherlands were only
separated by the drawing of lots, which probably had
momentous consequences for the entire tournament
as it pitted the Dutch against Germany in the round
of 16.
Ciao,
Werner
Now for more meaningful group stage awards.
The top scorer is being declared before the final group stage games are finished cus he is so far ahead. Congrats to Owen Goal with 7 goals!
We are still debating as to if it was good or bad that Austria finished
top of the group and not 2nd or even 3rd.
On 2024-06-26 4:29 a.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Real_Mardin wrote:
Binder Dundat wrote:
Germany scored more goals on its own than the whole of Group C put
together!
The final table of Group C has a striking resemblance to the final table >>> of Group F in the 1990 World Cup:
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 5
2 Denmark 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Slovenia 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Serbia 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
1 England 3 1 2 0 2 1 +1 4
2 Ireland 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
3 Netherlands 3 0 3 0 2 2 0 3[a]
4 Egypt 3 0 2 1 1 2 −1 2
Back then Ireland and the Netherlands were only
separated by the drawing of lots, which probably had
momentous consequences for the entire tournament
as it pitted the Dutch against Germany in the round
of 16.
How so? Germany won the match with the spitting camel and went on to win
the cup. Are you saying Ireland would not have had spitting camels and
would have went on to beat Germany and win the WC.
The llamas were arguably Germany’s biggest hurdle
on the way to the title, and they got them out of the
way early. Maybe they wouldn’t have been as dialled
in if they ‘only’ would have had to dispose of Ireland
and Czechoslovakia?
Second round matchups:
2nd July:
Romania - Netherlands
Austria - Turkey
(I think Austria's attack will be licking their lips when they see how
much space Turkey's defence gives away. On the other hand, tonight's
antics in Group F might have given Turkey something of a siege mentality which could serve them well on the night.)
RM
Dividing the second round by brackets:
HARD MODE:
Spain - Georgia, winner plays Germany - Denmark
Portugal - Slovenia, winner plays France - Denmark
EASY MODE:
Romania - Netherlands, winner plays Austria - Turkey
England - Slovakia, winner plays Switzerland - Italy
RM
On 2024-06-26 5:58 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
Dividing the second round by brackets:
HARD MODE:
Spain - Georgia, winner plays Germany - Denmark
Portugal - Slovenia, winner plays France - Denmark
EASY MODE:
Romania - Netherlands, winner plays Austria - Turkey
England - Slovakia, winner plays Switzerland - Italy
RM
That really does look like easy brackt vs Hard barcket, but is it? I
dont know who is good or bad anynoe? I think Spain is good, but Lily
White says no
Our projections that are based solely upon hard facts have Austria vs
Germany final
On 2024-06-26 8:08 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
On 2024-06-26 5:58 p.m., Real_Mardin wrote:
Dividing the second round by brackets:
HARD MODE:
Spain - Georgia, winner plays Germany - Denmark
Portugal - Slovenia, winner plays France - Denmark
EASY MODE:
Romania - Netherlands, winner plays Austria - Turkey
England - Slovakia, winner plays Switzerland - Italy
RM
That really does look like easy brackt vs Hard barcket, but is it? I
dont know who is good or bad anynoe? I think Spain is good, but Lily
White says no
Our projections that are based solely upon hard facts have Austria vs
Germany final
Though I will say if the Limeys actually ever want to win something,
this is their chance, this is easier than Germany making the final in
2002
Portugal - Slovenia, winner plays France - Denmark
On 2024-06-26 8:08 p.m., Binder Dundat wrote:
Our projections that are based solely upon hard facts have
Austria vs Germany final
Though I will say if the Limeys actually ever want to win
something, this is their chance,
this is easier than Germany making the final in 2002
SO people are asking, how we are projecting our winners? WEll, it is a
very technical and complicated algorithm basded upon many things, but
mostly goals scored followed by goal difference.
R of 16
Schweiz v Italien
The Swiss can be counted on to always beat the eventual winner in a
group stage, except they didnt beat Germany but drew. I dont know what
to make of Italy, but this one will got to ET and PKs.
Deutschland v Dänemark
This seems like it should be a German win, but the Danes held England to
a draw. I dont see them beating Germany without Nicky Bendtner.
Sonntag, 30.06.2024
England v Slowakei
Wait a sec, didnt England already play Slovakia? If one is to make predictions based solely upon this tournament, this will end 0-0 and go
to penals.
Spanien v Georgien
Georgia's reward for beating Portugal is a mtch vs Spain, this looks
like a straightforward Spain victory, but would it not be cool if
Georgia won and the unpredictability of this tournament continued? Cus really, there is no real favourite, though if one had to pick a team, it would be Spain.
Frankreich v Belgien
France has looked far from stellar, than again neither have Belgium, but
this is a straight forward France win.
Portugal v Slowenien
This is a straight forward Portugal win.
Dienstag, 02.07.2024
Rumänien v Niederlande
Wasnt the U-21 Romania team good, and it had guys named Hagi, Neeskens
and Cryuff and Puskas? One expects the Dutch to win, but the Dutch are
too dumb to win sometimes.
Österreich v Türkei
I didnt think Turkei looked that good vs the 10 men Czechs, so there is
no way they can beat the hottest team in football... Can Austria
actually win this cup? Is football finally coming home?
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football, it would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper, they
really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains why the English need foreign managers and referees.
Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football, it
would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper, they
really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains why the
English need foreign managers and referees.
Ronay can be insufferably smug, but I do think that
once in a while he hits the nail on the head.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/27/austria-are-everything-england-are-not-and-never-have-been-euro-2024
Ciao,
Werner
On 2024-06-28 10:57 a.m., Werner Pichler wrote:
Binder Dundat <dundat@mail.com> wrote:
On 2024-06-10 3:12 p.m., milivella wrote:
Let me highlight two links.
Guardian's complete guide to all 622 players:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jun/10/euro-2024-complete-guide-to-all-622-players
They had me at "Opinions vary as to how funny Mueller really is".
If there ever was a group of writers with 0 knowledge about football, it >>> would be the Guardian and every other English scribbling paper, they
really have no clue when it comes to football. Probably explains why the >>> English need foreign managers and referees.
Ronay can be insufferably smug, but I do think that
once in a while he hits the nail on the head.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/article/2024/jun/27/austria-are-everything-england-are-not-and-never-have-been-euro-2024
Ciao,
Werner
I honestly cannot read more than a paragraph or two of these idiots,
they have no clue. I really can't, it is so lacking in everything and it
is not even funny or entertaining. The writing is so bad and so stupid,
it is written for ten year olds from Asia or North America.
kicker for example doesn't try to be cute, they have some fluff pieces,
but it is rare. And the same goes for German commentary vs English. The Germans tell you who is passing and receiving the ball, the English talk about the English players and who they are dating, you dont even know
who has the ball or who scored. Oh, until there is VAR and then they
love the VAR drama and go on about that. ANd everything is high drama,
every time a guy is down and does up his laces it is high drama. They
just get it so wrong, I really prefer to watch a foreign stream of a
language I dont understand.
Werner Pichler wrote:
The llamas were arguably Germany’s biggest hurdle
on the way to the title, and they got them out of the
way early. Maybe they wouldn’t have been as dialled
in if they ‘only’ would have had to dispose of Ireland
and Czechoslovakia?
The llamas were awful in the group stage,
and came nowhere close to
troubling Germany, spitting or no spitting.
One could argue that Germany's biggest hurdle on > the way to the title was the home team,
but Maradona's mind games+Caniggia+Zenga took > care of that.
Futbolmetrix <futbolmetrix@yahoo.com> wrote:
Werner Pichler wrote:
The llamas were arguably Germany’s biggest hurdle
on the way to the title, and they got them out of the
way early. Maybe they wouldn’t have been as dialled
in if they ‘only’ would have had to dispose of Ireland
and Czechoslovakia?
The llamas were awful in the group stage,
well who wasn’t
and came nowhere close to
troubling Germany, spitting or no spitting.
One could argue that Germany's biggest hurdle on > the way to the title was the home team,
The biggest hurdle among those they actually
encountered, obviously.
You will get no argument from me that this had
always been Italy’s tournament to lose (and they did).
Ciao,
Werner
but Maradona's mind games+Caniggia+Zenga took > care of that.
Quarter finals:
Friday 5/7:
Spain - Germany
Portugal - France
Saturday 6/7:
England - Switzerland
Netherlands - Turkey
RM
Where have all the penalties gone?
So far there have been only two (one converted by
Havertz, one missed/disallowed by Petković), and
we’ve now gone 15 matches without a single one.
So we are coming to the end of what has probably been one of the more
even Euros. Spain is the best team and congratulations on winning EURO
24 but they are not really that good, I mean come on, the worst German
team of all time took them to ET.
The best player of the tournament is Tickle me Dani Olmo, he really is! followed by Cody Gakpo and George Mikautadze. Really, those are the top three players based on points scored or even goals scored.
Some interesting young players showed up, everyone is going on about the Spanish kid Yamal and rightly so, especially since he is only 16 years
old, They Turkish kid, Arda Guler impressed me as well, but these guys
were already playing for Barca and Real. SO not really new kids. J-Nag tried to kill off Wirtz career, for whatever reason left him on the
bench after the first match only to come on late in games, so the only
good young player German had never really got a chance.
For me this was a so-so EURO, no teams or players really shone, if
anything a lot of old guys were still the star players, or at least made
the headlines. Kroos for Germany, Kante for France, Ronaldo for Portugal
come to mind. Morata is Spains top striker still! You could say the
same for the COPA, one of the best players is the Colombian James. THis
was probably a chance for "young" players like Mbappe or Bellingham to
come out and show the world how good they are, except they did not.
Up until now, it seems fans have been relatively well behaved, though we still have an English game to go, so that might change soon.
has been bad at times, but what can you do. The 74 WC had rain problems
as well and some will say is the reason Germany won the cup that time.
BUt yeah, not a memorable cup for me, but congrats to Spain.
So we are coming to the end of what has probably been one of the more
even Euros. Spain is the best team and congratulations on winning EURO
24 but they are not really that good, I mean come on, the worst German
team of all time took them to ET.
The best player of the tournament is Tickle me Dani Olmo, he really is! followed by Cody Gakpo and George Mikautadze. Really, those are the top three players based on points scored or even goals scored.
Some interesting young players showed up, everyone is going on about the Spanish kid Yamal and rightly so, especially since he is only 16 years
old, They Turkish kid, Arda Guler impressed me as well, but these guys
were already playing for Barca and Real. SO not really new kids. J-Nag tried to kill off Wirtz career, for whatever reason left him on the
bench after the first match only to come on late in games, so the only
good young player German had never really got a chance.
For me this was a so-so EURO, no teams or players really shone, if
anything a lot of old guys were still the star players, or at least made
the headlines. Kroos for Germany, Kante for France, Ronaldo for Portugal
come to mind. Morata is Spains top striker still! You could say the
same for the COPA, one of the best players is the Colombian James. THis
was probably a chance for "young" players like Mbappe or Bellingham to
come out and show the world how good they are, except they did not.
Up until now, it seems fans have been relatively well behaved, though we still have an English game to go, so that might change soon. The rain
has been bad at times, but what can you do.
as well and some will say is the reason Germany won the cup that time.
BUt yeah, not a memorable cup for me, but congrats to Spain.
Don’t give the Euros to countries with wet summers. Another torrential downpour in Dortmund today. Hardly summer tournament weather, is it?
From now on only Morocco, Qatar and Saudi Arabia to host the Euros.
Problem solved!
RM
The 74 WC had rain problems
as well and some will say is the reason Germany won the cup that time.
BUt yeah, not a memorable cup for me, but congrats to Spain.
Don’t give the Euros to countries with wet summers. Another torrential
downpour in Dortmund today. Hardly summer tournament weather, is it?
Who can predict climate and weather in this age?
Who wants to play in 45 degree weather in Sevilla, for instance ?
A bit of rain never hurt anyone.
From now on only Morocco, Qatar and Saudi Arabia to host the Euros.
Problem solved!
Why not Turkey ? Most populous country in Europe if you continue to
exclude Russia, no ?
Only problem might be nearly all the big venues are in Istanbul, right ?
RM
The 74 WC had rain problems
as well and some will say is the reason Germany won the cup that time.
BUt yeah, not a memorable cup for me, but congrats to Spain.
So we are coming to the end of what has probably been one of the more
even Euros. Spain is the best team and congratulations on winning EURO
24 but they are not really that good, I mean come on, the worst German
team of all time took them to ET.
The best player of the tournament is Tickle me Dani Olmo, he really is! followed by Cody Gakpo and George Mikautadze. Really, those are the top three players based on points scored or even goals scored.
Some interesting young players showed up, everyone is going on about the Spanish kid Yamal and rightly so, especially since he is only 16 years
old, They Turkish kid, Arda Guler impressed me as well, but these guys
were already playing for Barca and Real. SO not really new kids. J-Nag tried to kill off Wirtz career, for whatever reason left him on the
bench after the first match only to come on late in games, so the only
good young player German had never really got a chance.
For me this was a so-so EURO, no teams or players really shone, if
anything a lot of old guys were still the star players, or at least made
the headlines. Kroos for Germany, Kante for France, Ronaldo for Portugal
come to mind. Morata is Spains top striker still! You could say the same for the COPA, one of the best players is the Colombian James. THis
was probably a chance for "young" players like Mbappe or Bellingham to
come out and show the world how good they are, except they did not.
Up until now, it seems fans have been relatively well behaved, though we still have an English game to go, so that might change soon. The rain
has been bad at times, but what can you do. The 74 WC had rain problems
as well and some will say is the reason Germany won the cup that time.
BUt yeah, not a memorable cup for me, but congrats to Spain.
As we have already confirmed Spain as EURO 24 champions, we can only try
and project the score now. Based on all the available data, we are predicting 10-3 win for Spain... Wait, that cant be right?
yeah I think it should be 10-0, that sounds better.
Serie A Rejects 261
Boys of Summer 224
Lily Whites 208
Corona and Lime 204
Les Rouges 180
Team Divis 153
So england have finally reached the final of a major
tournament without home advantage for the first time. They've
reached the level of Greece, Denmark, Peru etc. Or maybe not,
as those 3 teams all WON their continental championship
without home advantage. All that money in English football
(and the brainwashing of fans by the English media) is finally
producing results.
Would they have got there if they hadn't been in the easier
half of the draw though? Or even if Italy had played better?
Anyway, I doubt if it'll actually be 10-0, but in all
seriousness could it be as one-sided a final as the 2012 final
was?
On Thu, 4 Jul 2024 19:45:29 +0000, Binder Dundat wrote:
Serie A Rejects 261
Boys of Summer 224
Lily Whites 208
Corona and Lime 204
Les Rouges 180
Team Divis 153
Standings after the semifinals:
Serie A Rejects 344
Boys of Summer 297
Lily Whites 286
Corona and Lime 282
Les Rouges 244
Team Divis 190
The Rejects are down to Fabian Ruiz and Morata (injury doubt) for the
final, so this is still very much up for grabs.
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