• Re: Champions League 2024/25 Draw and (R)

    From The Doctor@21:1/5 to wpichler@gmail.com on Wed Jun 19 00:35:58 2024
    In article <v4t0ga$1ic0l$1@dont-email.me>,
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    Everything old is new again

    New qualifying scheme: >https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024-27-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.png

    Hurrah, the Preliminary Round is gone!



    Draw for Champions League 1st Qualifying Round (July 9/10 and 16/17)
    * = seeded team

    Winners go to CLQ2, Losers go to ConfLQ2 (they dropped the 'Europa'
    moniker from the Conference League)
    The two losers of the Panevėžys/HJK and RFS/Larne ties will receive a
    bye to ConfLQ3.


    ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SLK)* v FK Struga (MKD)
    The New Saints FC (WAL)* v FK Dečić (MNE)
    FK Borac Banja Luka (BIH)* v KF Egnatia (ALB)
    Ħamrun Spartans F.C. (MLT) v Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB)*
    KF Ballkani (KOS)* v UE Santa Coloma (AND)

    FC Flora (EST)* v NK Celje (SLO)
    KÍ (FAR)* v FC Differdange 03 (LUX)
    FK Panevėžys (LTU) v HJK (FIN)*
    FK RFS (LAT)* v Larne FC (NIR)
    KF Víkingur (ISL) v Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)*

    AC Virtus (SMR) v FC FCSB (ROM)*
    PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)* v FC Dinamo Batumi (GEO)
    FC Ordabasy (KAZ) v FC Petrocub Hîncești (MDA)*
    FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR) v FC Pyunik (ARM)*



    A lot of familiar faces from the last seasons as repeat champions here,
    and the only completely new team are the Sammarinese maiden champions
    Virtus (who would already have qualified for last season's Conference
    League, but were still banned then because of a match fixing scandal
    back in 2017).

    There are also a number of other teams making their Champions League
    debut thanks to their first domestic title - Dečić, Egnatia, UE Santa >Coloma (local rivals FC Santa Coloma have been much more successful,
    with 13 Andorran titles), FC Differdange (as fusion club; predecessors
    Red Boys Differdange had won six Luxembourg titles, the last one in
    1978/79), Panevėžys (in their current guise - bankrupt predecessor club >Ekranas had won the Lithuanian title seven times), Ordabasy, and
    Petrocub.


    Something that hasn't changed from the previous qualification scheme -
    CLQ1 is already a hugely important round for the champions of smaller >nations, since surviving it means that you have three shots at
    qualifying for a European group phase.

    This is especially important for the few remaining leagues that still
    have never managed to send a team to a group stage, i.e. San Marino,
    Andorra, Malta, Montenegro, Northern Ireland, and Wales. So the Ħamrun >Spartans playing the Gibraltarian Red Imps and The New Saints and Dečić >playing each other might take on a special significance.



    Ciao,
    Werner

    Watch on!
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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Jun 19 11:24:17 2024
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    Everything old is new again

    New qualifying scheme: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024-27-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.png



    Draw for Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round (July 23/24 and 30/31)
    * = seeded team
    Winners go to CLQ3, Losers go to ELQ3

    The winners of these ties are already guaranteed at
    least Conference League group stage.


    Champions Path

    PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)/FC Dinamo Batumi (GEO)* v FC Dinamo Minsk
    (BLR)/FC Pyunik (ARM)
    APOEL FC (CYP)* v FC Ordabasy (KAZ)/FC Petrocub Hîncești (MDA)
    Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)* v The New Saints FC (WAL)/FK Dečić (MNE)
    PAOK FC (GRE)* v FK Borac Banja Luka (BIH)/KF Egnatia (ALB)

    FK Bodø/Glimt (NOR)* v FK RFS (LAT)/Larne FC (NIR)
    Malmö FF (SWE)* v KÍ (FAR)/FC Differdange 03 (LUX)
    KF Víkingur (ISL)/Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL) v AC Sparta Praha (CZE)*
    KF Ballkani (KOS)/UE Santa Coloma (AND) v FC Midtjylland (DEN)*

    FC Flora (EST)/NK Celje (SLO) v ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SLK)/FK Struga (MKD)*
    FK Panevėžys (LTU)/HJK (FIN)* v Jagiellonia Białystok (POL)
    Ħamrun Spartans F.C. (MLT)/Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB) v Qarabağ FK (AZE)*
    AC Virtus (SMR)/FC FCSB (ROM) v Maccabi Tel Aviv FC (ISR)*



    League Path

    FC Lugano (SUI) v Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)*
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)* v FK Partizan (SRB)



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to no_email@invalid.invalid on Wed Jun 19 14:22:42 2024
    In article <v4uf50$1uoir$1@dont-email.me>,
    Werner Pichler <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    Everything old is new again

    New qualifying scheme:
    https://kassiesa.net/uefa/files/2024-27-uefa-club-competitions-scheme.png



    Draw for Champions League 2nd Qualifying Round (July 23/24 and 30/31)
    * = seeded team
    Winners go to CLQ3, Losers go to ELQ3

    The winners of these ties are already guaranteed at
    least Conference League group stage.


    Champions Path

    PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)/FC Dinamo Batumi (GEO)* v FC Dinamo Minsk
    (BLR)/FC Pyunik (ARM)
    APOEL FC (CYP)* v FC Ordabasy (KAZ)/FC Petrocub Hîncești (MDA) >Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)* v The New Saints FC (WAL)/FK Dečić (MNE)
    PAOK FC (GRE)* v FK Borac Banja Luka (BIH)/KF Egnatia (ALB)

    FK Bodø/Glimt (NOR)* v FK RFS (LAT)/Larne FC (NIR)
    Malmö FF (SWE)* v KÍ (FAR)/FC Differdange 03 (LUX)
    KF Víkingur (ISL)/Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL) v AC Sparta Praha (CZE)*
    KF Ballkani (KOS)/UE Santa Coloma (AND) v FC Midtjylland (DEN)*

    FC Flora (EST)/NK Celje (SLO) v ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SLK)/FK Struga (MKD)* >FK Panevėžys (LTU)/HJK (FIN)* v Jagiellonia Białystok (POL)
    Ħamrun Spartans F.C. (MLT)/Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB) v Qarabağ FK (AZE)*
    AC Virtus (SMR)/FC FCSB (ROM) v Maccabi Tel Aviv FC (ISR)*



    League Path

    FC Lugano (SUI) v Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)*
    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)* v FK Partizan (SRB)



    Ciao,
    Werner

    Still right on!
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  • From Real_Mardin@21:1/5 to All on Thu Jul 18 17:33:06 2024
    Maybe it just seems this way because we’ve only just finished the Euros,
    but it feels too soon to have played two legs of qualifiers already!


    RM

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jul 22 11:00:15 2024
    Draw for Champions League 3rd Qualifying Round (August 6/7 and 13)
    * = seeded team
    Winners go to CLPO, Losers in the Champions Path go to ELPO, Losers in
    the League Path go to EL Group Phase



    Champions Path


    Lincoln Red Imps FC (GIB)/Qarabağ FK (AZE)* v PFC Ludogorets 1945 (BUL)/FC Dinamo Minsk (BLR)

    NK Celje (SLO)/ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SLK)* v APOEL FC (CYP)/FC Petrocub Hîncești (MDA)

    Shamrock Rovers FC (IRL)/AC Sparta Praha (CZE) v FC FCSB (ROM)/Maccabi Tel
    Aviv FC (ISR)*

    Malmö FF (SWE)/KÍ (FAR) v PAOK FC (GRE)/FK Borac Banja Luka (BIH)*

    UE Santa Coloma (AND)/FC Midtjylland (DEN) v Ferencvárosi TC (HUN)/The New Saints FC (WAL)*

    FK Panevėžys (LTU)/Jagiellonia Białystok (POL) v FK Bodø/Glimt (NOR)/FK RFS (LAT)*



    League Path


    SK Slavia Praha (CZE)* v Royale Union Saint-Gilloise (BEL)

    Lille OSC (FRA)* v FC Lugano (SUI)/Fenerbahçe SK (TUR)

    FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)/FK Partizan (SRB) v Rangers FC (SCO)*

    RB Salzburg (AUT)* v FC Twente (NED)



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 15 21:13:47 2024
    Quoting Werner Pichler in rec.sport.soccer:
    PAOK FC (GRE)* v MALM FF (SWE) 3-4 aet (3-2, 3-3), 5-6 on aggregate
    (Taison 21', Koulierakis 44', ivkovi? 45'+4; Nanasi 10', 45',
    Ztterstrm 90'+7, Christiansen 99')

    And all 4 Swedish teams still alive in their respective leagues after
    tonight. Can't really ask for more these days.


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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu Aug 29 17:08:39 2024
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 0:35:58 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Champions League Playoff, 2nd leg
    * = seeded team
    Teams in CAPITALS go to CL Group Phase, Losers go to EL Group Phase


    Thanks again for all these detailed summaries!

    So, the draw actually took place, and a lot of teams will be playing
    against a lot of other teams!

    Some things that caught my eye:

    Atalanta (in pot 2) will play Real and Barca.
    Dortmund (pot 1?) also plays Real and Barca
    Inter and Juve will both play ManCity and Leipzig from Pot 1.
    PSG plays Bayern and ManCity, Bayern plays PSG and Barcelona, Man City
    plays PSG and Inter: these strike as the toughest draws for the Pot 1
    teams.

    Juve's full draw: ManCity (h), RB Leipzig (a), Benfica (h), Brugge(a),
    PSV (h), Lille (a), Stuttgart (h), Aston Villa (a): relatively kind in
    the Pot 1 and Pot 2 opponents, not so much in Pots 3 and 4

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  • From Blueshirt@21:1/5 to Futbolmetrix on Thu Aug 29 18:23:54 2024
    Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Thanks again for all these detailed summaries!

    So, the draw actually took place, and a lot of teams will be
    playing against a lot of other teams!

    A very entertaining Champions League draw... for once.

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  • From anders t@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 22:39:11 2024
    Quoting Blueshirt in rec.sport.soccer:
    Futbolmetrix wrote:

    Thanks again for all these detailed summaries!

    So, the draw actually took place, and a lot of teams will be
    playing against a lot of other teams!

    A very entertaining Champions League draw... for once.

    So, on the last day of the group (league?) stage, there will be 18 games starting at the same time.

    I need more screens...


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  • From The Doctor@21:1/5 to All on Thu Aug 29 22:27:26 2024
    ARsenal drew

    Inter M

    PSG

    Shaktar Donetsk

    Atalanta

    Dinamo Zagrab

    Sporting Lisbon

    MOnaco

    Girona


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  • From Binder Dundat@21:1/5 to The Doctor on Thu Aug 29 19:25:44 2024
    On 2024-08-29 6:27 p.m., The Doctor wrote:
    ARsenal drew

    Inter M

    PSG

    Shaktar Donetsk

    Atalanta

    Dinamo Zagrab

    Sporting Lisbon

    MOnaco

    Girona



    That is a pretty easy draw, especially considering they were not in pot 1

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  • From Real_Mardin@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sat Aug 31 12:16:17 2024
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 0:35:58 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

    Champions League Playoff, 2nd leg
    * = seeded team
    Teams in CAPITALS go to CL Group Phase, Losers go to EL Group Phase



    August 27


    Champions Path


    Galatasaray SK (TUR) v BSC YOUNG BOYS (SUI)* 0-1 (0-0), 2-4 on aggregate (Virginius 87'; Red Card: Muslera (Gal) 88')

    A surprisingly listless performance by Gala considering what was at
    stake. Throughout the first half Young Boys were the more dangerous team
    on the break, and they also hit the post through a header by Congolese striker Silvère Ganvoula. The closest Galatasaray actually came to
    making up the deficit was Kerem Aktürkoğlu's free-kick early in the
    second half that was guided in by Kaan Ayhan but was correctly flagged
    down for offside. At the other end, Ganvoula once again headed against
    the post. The tie was decided for good due to YB finally converting one
    of their counter attacks, with two substitutes combining - former
    Rangers forward Cedric Itten played in Alan Virginius, and the Lille
    loanee and former French Under-20 NT captain left Fernando Muslera no
    chance: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461594/32131-Record_2024_08_27_22_49_36_408.mp4
    As has become kind of usual in Turkish-Swiss matches, going all the way
    back to the infamous World Cup playoff in 2005, tempers then boiled over
    with Gala fans throwing plenty of cups and worse onto the pitch,
    Virginius leading a somewhat provocative celebration, and Muslera
    losing his head and scything Virginius down - straight red.

    Even if you disagree with the handball call in the first leg, the
    question remains why it would even need to boil down to one single
    situation in a two-legged tie between the currently last-placed team of
    the Swiss Super League and a team that won the Turkish Süper Lig with
    record points last season and has players like Icardi, Batshuayi,
    Ziyech, Torreira, Demirbay, or Mertens at its disposal.


    That’s not really the point though. Hands up, Galatasaray underachieved
    on the night, but a large contributor to that was Young Boys being put
    in an artificial position of strength by the first leg penalty call
    which most agree shouldn’t have been given. Hence they could sit back
    and pick us off on the break. The tie was essentially rigged in their
    favour (not deliberately but as a consequence of the penalty) “ Ner ner,
    you had Icardi and you still couldn’t win!” doesn’t quite cut it.


    RM

    This is the second time in the last three seasons that there won't be a Turkish team in the Champions League group/league phase. Next year
    they'll have a guaranteed spot again due to their good UEFA ranking.


    AC SPARTA PRAHA (CZE) v Malmö FF (SWE)* 2-0 (0-0), 4-0 on aggregate (Haraslín 80', Rrahmani 83')

    In a quite rare feat both sides missed a penalty in the first half -
    on occasion of a corner kick Malmö defender Nils Zätterström dragged
    down Asger Sørensen, but Veljko Birmančević took pity on his former club and fired high over the bar, while at the other end Martin Vitík bowled
    over Anders Christiansen, but Malmö's Danish captain was denied from the spot by his fellow countryman Vindahl in the Sparta net. The Czech
    champions remained the more dangerous team in the second half, and after
    Kaan Kairinen's free-kick had come off the crossbar they were once again awarded a penalty, conceded by Brazilian left-back Gabriel Busanello who
    took the legs out from under Sparta's Ecuadorian substitute Ángelo
    Preciado. This time around Lukáš Haraslín made no mistake from the spot, and a few minutes later the Slovakian international was also
    instrumental in getting the Czechs a second as he danced past Hugo Bolin
    on the left wing before delivering the cross that was tapped in by
    Sparta's new Kosovar signing Albion Rrahmani in the first match for his
    new club: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461595/32130-Record_2024_08_27_22_49_27_23.mp4
    Rrahmani has now made it from KF Ballkani into the Champions League in
    just two years, not bad.

    This is the first time since 2005/06 that Sparta Prague reach the
    Champions League proper.



    League Path


    RB SALZBURG (AUT) v FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR)* 1-1 (1-1), 3-1 on aggregate
    (Daghim 12'; Vanat 29')

    With yours truly in attendance, Salzburg's first ten minutes were pretty terrible, completely hemmed in as they were by furiously attacking Ukrainians, then just as in the first leg they went and scored with
    their first dangerous foray into the Dynamo half. As it's not just
    Sparta Prague (or Sturm Graz, for that matter) that's currently relying
    on Danish talent it was Maurits Kjærgaard, who has improved leaps and
    bounds under new coach Lijnders, who played in his 18-year-old
    compatriot Adam Daghim, and the youngster skipped past several defenders before beating Dynamo keeper Bushchan: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461596/32069-Record_2024_08_27_21_13_01_836.mp4
    Salzburg were in ascendance after that, keeping the Ukrainians on the
    back foot, and one might have thought that going up by three goals on aggregate while clearly being the better team should be fine, right?
    Wrong, it's Salzburg in a Champions League qualifier we're talking about here. One long ball over the top by Dynamo's very promising young
    centre-back Taras Mykhavko was enough to outwit Salzburg's defence,
    and Vladyslav Vanat did well to keep his marker Samson Baidoo at bay
    and fire past Janis Blaswich: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461596/32095-Record_2024_08_27_21_48_49_398.mp4
    Dynamo were the dominant team after that, but Salzburg sat back with surprising confidence (also calmly defending 16 corner kicks, their
    previous weakness), and the Ukrainians only rarely got into really
    dangerous positions, the most promising a late shot by Shaparenko
    following a one-two with Vanat that he dragged pitifully wide. In the
    end the goal remained Dynamo's only shot on target, and that was too
    little.

    After eleven qualification failures this is now the sixth time in a row
    that Salzburg will play in the Champions League, and the first time ever
    that Austria will have two teams in the group/league phase.



    August 28


    Champions Path


    Qarabağ FK (AZE) v GNK DINAMO ZAGREB (CRO)* 0-2 (0-1), 0-5 on aggregate (Pjaca 32', Matheus Silva 53' (og); Red Card: Medina (Qar) 88')

    Qarabağ weren't nearly as dangerous in attack as in the first leg, and a lovely individual effort by Marko Pjaca decided the tie for good, a
    couple of stepovers followed by an unstoppable shot in off the far post: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461597/32217-Record_2024_08_28_19_20_18_457.mp4
    The Azeris weren't all that bad, but simply too harmless up front, and
    they conceded a second when a shot by Petar Sučić was blocked by
    Qarabağ's newly signed Polish keeper Mateusz Kochalski, only to come off
    the unlucky Brazilian right-back Matheus Silva, and go in: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461597/32225-Record_2024_08_28_19_58_06_588.mp4
    Late on Qarabağ's Colombian centre-back Kevin Medina also saw a second yellow.

    Ninth Champions League group stage for Dinamo.


    ŠK SLOVAN BRATISLAVA (SLK) v FC Midtjylland (DEN)* 3-2 (1-1), 4-3 on aggregate
    (Tolić 33', 82', Barseghyan 86'; Şimşir 41', Djú 50')

    A fun match to watch from a neutral point of view. Pretty much every
    danger posed by the Slovakians came from their right side, and that's
    also how they got the opening goal - Slovan's Panamanian right-back
    César Blackman found Marko Tolić all alone in the Danish box, and the Croatian midfielder side-stepped Emiliano Martínez's feeble challenge
    and beat FCM's Icelandic keeper Elías Rafn Ólafsson from a tight angle: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32253-Record%20(1).mp4
    The Danish champions reacted well and after Dominik Takáč had already pulled off a great save against Darío Osorio's point-blank header the
    Slovan keeper was beaten by Aral Şimşir who capped off a solo run with a precise shot into the bottom corner: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32259-Record%20(3).mp4
    Slovan enjoyed a good spell after the break, but it was Midtjylland who
    got the goal as Bissau-Guinean youngster Franculino Djú volleyed in Juninho's weighted cross: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32263-Record%20(4).mp4
    The Danes appeared fully in control after that - that is, until they
    suddenly conceded out of nowhere. Man of the match Tolić was being given
    too much space at the edge of the area, and he found the gap to beat Ólafsson at the far post: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32268-Record%20(6).mp4
    and that area to their left defensive side continued to remain
    Midtjylland's Achilles heel. Three minutes later Viktoria Plzeň loanee Idjessi Metsoko almost scored an identical goal with Ólafsson making a
    great save to keep the shot out: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32272-Record%20(7).mp4
    and again just one minute later Slovan did indeed score from the same
    spot, with Metsoko providing the assist for Armenian winger Tigran Barseghyan: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461598/32273-Record%20(8).mp4
    A shocked Midtjylland side had one good chance to level the score once
    more, but in stoppage time Osorio's free-kick went off the left post

    The first time that Slovan Bratislava qualify for the Champions League.
    As by far the most successful team in the country it's strange that they
    are only the fourth Slovakian team to make it, after Košice (1997/98), Petržalka (2005/06), and Žilina (2010/11).

    I also do find it a bit curious that all of Salzburg, Sparta, Malmö, Galatasaray, and Bodø had as many or more Danish players on the pitch as Midtjylland.


    FK CRVENA ZVEZDA (SRB)* v FK Bodø/Glimt (NOR) 2-0 (1-0), 3-2 on
    aggregate
    (Bruno Duarte 26' (pen), Spajić 59')

    Red Star dominated the game from the start against disappointing
    Norwegian champions. Glimt keeper Haikin had already had to claw out
    In-beom Hwang's shot before Fredrik Sjøvold's unnecessary and clumsy challenge on Red Star's new Angolan winger Felício Milson at the edge of
    the area gifted the Serbians a penalty, calmly converted by another new signing, Brazilian forward Bruno Duarte. Haikin then also had to push a header by Peter Olayinka onto the crossbar, and while Glimt were
    slightly better in the second half they still conceded the decisive goal
    when Red Star captain Uroš Spajić headed in Timi Max Elšnik's corner
    kick.

    Following their extra time defeat in Zagreb two seasons ago another
    Champions League Playoff disappointment for Bodø/Glimt in former
    Yugoslavia.



    League Path


    SK Slavia Praha (CZE) v LILLE OSC (FRA) 2-1 (1-0), 2-3 on aggregate
    (Zafeiris 5', Schranz 84'; Zhegrova 77')

    Only five minutes in Slavia youngster Christos Zafeiris, who just a
    couple of days ago announced he'd switch his NT allegiance from Norway
    to Greece, halved the first-leg deficit by emphatically volleying in
    from the edge of the box: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461600/32238-Record_2024_08_28_21_09_29_396.mp4
    Tomáš Chorý then could have levelled the tie but in front of the gaping net fired wide, and the French continued to ride their luck as a
    Zafeiris free-kick went off the crossbar. Lille were better after the
    break, hitting the crossbar themselves through Edon Zhegrova's wayward free-kick cross, and the Kosovo international also got the equaliser
    with a well-placed shot from distance: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461600/32267-Record_2024_08_28_22_37_37_425.mp4
    The tie wasn't over yet though as the Czechs retook the lead thanks to
    Euro 24 top scorer Ivan Schranz who rifled in the loose ball after Lille keeper Chevalier had parried against Zafeiris: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461600/32269-Record_2024_08_28_22_44_35_400.mp4
    and in the remaining minutes Slavia had three more huge chances to send
    the game to extra time. But Zafeiris for the second time in this match
    only hit the crossbar, Chytil was denied by Chevalier from point blank
    range, and most agonizingly in the 94th minute the young substitute
    Matěj Jurásek could have become Slavia's hero, but he sent his
    completely free header inches wide: https://media.onlajny.com/media/cs/football/2024/461600/32276-Record_2024_08_28_22_55_57_820.mp4



    Pots for CL Group Stage Draw / August 28 18h00 CEST

    As has become usual the draw will take place at the same time as the EL
    and ConfL playoffs, but for the first time it will be done entirely
    by computer.

    Reminder how it works: every team will play four matches at home and
    four matches away against eight different opponents, two from each pot.
    You can't play against a team from your own league, and at most against
    two teams from any other. At the end all 36 teams will be ranked in one table, with teams 1-8 going directly into the Round of 16, teams 9-24
    playing each other in a two-legged playoff, and teams below 24 being eliminated. No more Europa League parachute.


    Pot 1

    Real Madrid CF (ESP-1/TH-CL) 136.000
    Manchester City FC (ENG-1) 145.000
    FC Bayern München (GER-2) 144.000
    Paris Saint-Germain FC (FRA-1) 116.000
    Liverpool FC (ENG-3) 114.000
    FC Internazionale Milano (ITA-1) 101.000
    BV Borussia 09 Dortmund (GER-5) 97.000
    RB Leipzig (GER-4) 97.000
    FC Barcelona (ESP-2) 91.000


    Pot 2

    Bayer 04 Leverkusen (GER-1) 90.000
    Club Atlético de Madrid (ESP-4) 89.000
    Atalanta BC (ITA-4/TH-EL) 81.000
    Juventus FC (ITA-3) 80.000
    SL Benfica (POR-2) 79.000
    Arsenal FC (ENG-2) 72.000
    Club Brugge KV (BEL-1) 64.000
    FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR-1) 63.000
    AC Milan (ITA-2) 59.000


    Pot 3

    Feyenoord (NED-2) 57.000
    Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR-1) 54.500
    PSV (NED-1) 54.000
    GNK Dinamo Zagreb (CRO-1) 50.000
    FC Salzburg (AUT-2) 50.000
    Lille OSC (FRA-4) 47.000
    FK Crvena Zvezda (SRB-1) 40.000
    BSC Young Boys (SUI-1) 34.500
    Celtic FC (SCO-1) 32.000


    Pot 4

    ŠK Slovan Bratislava (SLK-1) 30.500
    AS Monaco FC (FRA-2) 24.000
    AC Sparta Praha (CZE-1) 22.500
    Aston Villa FC (ENG-4) 20.860
    Bologna FC 1909 (ITA-5) 18.056
    Girona FC (ESP-3) 17.897
    VfB Stuttgart 1893 (GER-2) 17.324
    SK Sturm Graz (AUT-1) 14.500
    Stade Brestois 29 (FRA-3) 13.366



    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Sun Oct 6 18:47:53 2024
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:


    This already feels like very much the Salzburg of old where no reputable bookie would accept a bet on 'both sides score'. New manager Pep
    Lijnders has been a breath of fresh air, but he definitely needs to sort
    out those defensive issues.

    *voiceover* But he didn’t.

    Instead it got worse and worse.

    0-3 vs Sparta Prague, 0-4 vs Stade Brest and today
    0-5 vs Sturm Graz. All those Liverpool and Kloppo
    connections, like bringing in Bajcetic and Bobby
    Clark, that Lijnders had used so well to promote
    himself, sounded great on paper, but it’s quite
    possible those will soon mean nothing whatsoever.

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Oct 9 08:07:48 2024
    Werner Pichler <no_email@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:


    This already feels like very much the Salzburg of old where no reputable
    bookie would accept a bet on 'both sides score'. New manager Pep
    Lijnders has been a breath of fresh air, but he definitely needs to sort
    out those defensive issues.

    *voiceover* But he didn’t.

    Instead it got worse and worse.

    0-3 vs Sparta Prague, 0-4 vs Stade Brest and today
    0-5 vs Sturm Graz. All those Liverpool and Kloppo
    connections, like bringing in Bajcetic and Bobby
    Clark, that Lijnders had used so well to promote
    himself, sounded great on paper, but it’s quite
    possible those will soon mean nothing whatsoever.

    Or everything?

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2024/oct/09/jurgen-klopp-returning-to-football-as-red-bull-head-of-global-soccer

    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Werner Pichler@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Thu Nov 28 14:34:22 2024
    Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 29.08.2024 19:08, Futbolmetrix wrote:


    Atalanta (in pot 2) will play Real and Barca.
    Dortmund (pot 1?) also plays Real and Barca
    Inter and Juve will both play ManCity and Leipzig from Pot 1.
    PSG plays Bayern and ManCity, Bayern plays PSG and Barcelona, Man City
    plays PSG and Inter: these strike as the toughest draws for the Pot 1
    teams.

    I thought PSG got a super tough draw - Man City, Bayern, Atlético,
    Arsenal, PSV, Salzburg, Girona and Stuttgart.
    Should they lose the first four of those ties, the pressure is on.

    Hmmm

    Too bad Salzburg (next game up, followed by Man
    City at home and Stuttgart away) are so terrible right
    now, those easy three points will help pushing PSG
    over the line.


    Ciao,
    Werner

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  • From Futbolmetrix@21:1/5 to Werner Pichler on Wed Dec 11 22:50:04 2024
    On Thu, 29 Aug 2024 20:52:46 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

    I thought PSG got a super tough draw - Man City, Bayern, Atlético,
    Arsenal, PSV, Salzburg, Girona and Stuttgart.
    Should they lose the first four of those ties, the pressure is on.


    PSG (7 points, 25th place) vs ManCity (8 points, 22nd place) in MD7 will
    be interesting...

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