Rules (copied from last year):

- Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for
one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5
forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal
scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by
your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total
number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the
round.

Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (Tuesday October 1).

There will be seven match days

1-3 Oct: UChL2, UEL2, UCoL1
22-24 Oct: UChL3, UEL3, UCoL2
5-7 Nov: UChL4, UEL5, UCoL3
26-28 Nov: UChL5, UEL5, UCoL4
10-12 Dec: UChL6, UEL6, UCoL5
21-23 Jan: UchL7, UEL7
29-30 Jan: UchL8, UEL8 (double points)


Additional rules:

- You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the
club of both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off
their match yet.

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team
rules. If a player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be
selected by managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible.
Example: Kemar Roofe in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and
Jamaica. Since then he has declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible
for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:37:37 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

I may make a Waka-Waka team to defend its title, but it's going to be ow maintenance. Also, I think I won't be able to do the full analysis of left-out players/efficiency scores

Low maintenance Waka-Waka:

DF: Tapsoba (Leverkusen), Ogbu (Slavia Prague), Bright Osayi-Samuel (Fenerbahce)
MF: Onyedika (Club Brugge), Leandro Andrade (Qarabag), Fisayo Dele
Bashiru (Lazio), Guelor Kanga (Crvena Zvezda)
FW: Osimhen (Galatasaray), Boniface(Leverkusen), Lookman (Atalanta),
Boulaye Dia (Lazio), Gift Orban (Lyon)

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I may make a Waka-Waka team to defend its title, but it's going to be ow maintenance. Also, I think I won't be able to do the full analysis of left-out players/efficiency scores

In case anybody wants to take a stab at gamemastering, here is the
spreadsheet from last year:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1utU8oi3IDv6Jh2nvLfvwtefNfWhVn4KRBMI2vidSjfA/edit?usp=sharing

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 22:01:05 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:37:37 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean


I may make a Waka-Waka team to defend its title, but it's going to be ow
maintenance. Also, I think I won't be able to do the full analysis of
left-out players/efficiency scores

Low maintenance Waka-Waka:

DF: Tapsoba (Leverkusen), Ogbu (Slavia Prague), Bright Osayi-Samuel (Fenerbahce)
MF: Onyedika (Club Brugge), Leandro Andrade (Qarabag), Fisayo Dele
Bashiru (Lazio), Guelor Kanga (Crvena Zvezda)
FW: Osimhen (Galatasaray), Boniface(Leverkusen), Lookman (Atalanta),
Boulaye Dia (Lazio), Gift Orban (Lyon)

Might as well tinker right off the bat. Guirassy in, Orban out.

DF: Tapsoba, Ogbu, Bright Osayi-Samuel
MF: Onyedika (Club Brugge), Leandro Andrade (Qarabag), Fisayo Dele
Bashiru (Lazio), Guelor Kanga (Crvena Zvezda)
FW: Osimhen (Galatasaray), Boniface(Leverkusen), Lookman (Atalanta),
Boulaye Dia (Lazio), Guirassy (Borussia Dortmund)

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean


I may make a Waka-Waka team to defend its title, but it's going to be ow maintenance. Also, I think I won't be able to do the full analysis of
left-out players/efficiency scores

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On 2024-09-29 15:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

- Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for
one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5
forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal
scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by
your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total
number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the
round.

Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (Tuesday October 1).

There will be seven match days

1-3 Oct:  UChL2, UEL2, UCoL1
22-24 Oct: UChL3, UEL3, UCoL2
5-7 Nov: UChL4, UEL5, UCoL3
26-28 Nov: UChL5, UEL5, UCoL4
10-12 Dec:  UChL6, UEL6, UCoL5
21-23 Jan: UchL7, UEL7
29-30 Jan: UchL8, UEL8  (double points)

If nobody has any objections I will enter 3 teams. The good old Benelux
team (Waffles and Windmills), the CONACAF Rockers, and a team of Celts (Scotland, Ireland, N. Ireland and Wales) though the latter is going to
be a prime wooden spoon candidate.

Additional rules:

- You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the
club of both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off
their match yet.

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team
rules. If a player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be selected by managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible.
Example: Kemar Roofe in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and
Jamaica. Since then he has declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible
for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).

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Orientation:

If I made no mistakes this would have been the best
line-ups for Matchday 1 CL+EL:


Brexit Bungs (ENG):

DF: Sykes
MF: Ramsey
FW: Kane x4, Gittens x2, Solanke


Söldners/Flickers/Midfielders (GER):

DF: Rüdiger
MF: Wirtz x2, Goretzka, Sané
FW: Undav, Moerstedt


Batraciens (FRA):

DF: Konaté
MF: Olise x2, Akliouche, Magnetti, Dina Ebimbe, Cherki
FW: Mbappé, Griezmann, Ekitike


Singed Beards (ESP) - is that still a suitable name for the Yamal
generation?

DF: Grimaldo, Paredes
FW: Yamal, Samu, Barrenetxea


Waffles & Windmills (NED+BEL)

DF: Van Dijk, Debast
MF: Tielemans, Onana, Engels, Verschaeren, Rosario, Fitz-Jim, [Taylor]
FW: Godts x2, Van Bommel x2, Lammers


Winter Wonderland (SUI+AUT)

DF: Wimmer


Vikings (DEN/NOR/SWE/ICE/FAR)

DF: Kristensen
MF: Hedlund, Eriksen
FW: Hauge x2, Gyökeres, Gül, Høgh, Dolberg


Thistle (SCO/IRL/NIR/WAL)

DF: Scales
MF: Johnson
FW: Idah, Parrott, McCausland


Tugas (POR)

DF: Guerreiro
FW: Bruma x2


Warsaw Pact (Eastern Europe)

DF: Jemelka
MF: Olaru x2, Szoboszlai, Jurásek, Šulc (+ALB: Laçi, Bajrami)
FW: Dovbyk, Bîrligea, Ștefănescu


Tito's Brothers (ex-YUG)

DF: Lipušček
FW: Šeško, Petković


Middle Eastern Peaceniks (MENA without Turkey)

MF: Benrahma
FW: Saibari, Davida

(+Turkey:)

DF: Söyüncü
MF: Kökçü
FW: Yıldız, Aktürkoğlu, Akgün


Waka-Waka (sub-Saharan Africa):

MF: Dele-Bashiru, Milson, Sarr, Ouma
FW: Dia x2, Olatunji, Ilenikhena, Guirassy, Sima, [Traoré, Adu]


Jogo Apresentável (BRA):

FW: Endrick


CONCACAF Rockers (CONCACAF):

MF: McKennie
FW: Pulišić



Others:

FIN: Kairinen (MF)
GRE: Konstantelias (MF)
ARG: González (FW), Icardi (FW)
URU: Giménez (DF)
CHI: Osorio (MF)
JAP: Ogiwara (DF), Furuhashi (MF), Maeda (FW)

5 own goals

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 11:33:14 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

Orientation:

If I made no mistakes this would have been the best
line-ups for Matchday 1 CL+EL:

Thanks for putting this together. A couple of additions/revisions:

Armata Brancaleone (ITA): 0
DF:
MF:
FW:

[snip]

Messi's Orphans (ARG)
DF:
MF:
FW: Gonzalez, Icardi


CONMEBOllers (CONMEBOL excluding ARG/BRA)
DF: Giménez
MF: Osorio
FW:

JAP: Ogiwara (DF), Furuhashi (MF), Maeda (FW)

The Rising Sons (AFC excluding Peaceniks) could be an interesting new
lineup, even though their captain got injured in MD1.

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On 2024-09-29 15:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

- Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for
one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5
forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal
scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by
your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total
number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the
round.

Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (Tuesday October 1).

There will be seven match days

1-3 Oct:  UChL2, UEL2, UCoL1
22-24 Oct: UChL3, UEL3, UCoL2
5-7 Nov: UChL4, UEL5, UCoL3
26-28 Nov: UChL5, UEL5, UCoL4
10-12 Dec:  UChL6, UEL6, UCoL5
21-23 Jan: UchL7, UEL7
29-30 Jan: UchL8, UEL8  (double points)

Additional rules:

- You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the
club of both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off
their match yet.

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team
rules. If a player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be selected by managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible.
Example: Kemar Roofe in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and
Jamaica. Since then he has declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible
for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).

Highly tentative lineups for this week

Howling Gaels (Celts)

DF. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF: Callum McGregor (Celtic), John McGinn (Aston Villa), Tom Lawrence
(Wales) (Rangers), Connor Barron (Rangers)


FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Ross McAusland
(N. Irl) (Rangers), Blair Spittal (Hearts) Liam Boyce (Hearts)

Unfortunately Napoli (McTominay and Gilmour) and Torino (Adams) not
involved. Need to double check positions against UEFA by thurs for some
of these.


Rockers (Concafaf)

DF: Alistair Johnston (Celtic) Cameron Carter Vickers (Celtic) sergino
Dest (PSV)

MF Gio Reyna (Dortmund), Alphonso Davies (Bayern) McKennie (Juve) Yunus
Musah (Milan)

FW: Jonathan David (Lille) , Hirving Lozano (PSV), Santi Giménez
(Feyenoord), Christian Pulisic (Milan) Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)

Balogun, Pepi Tillman and others in reserve. Again, too bad Marseille
are not in Europe (Koné, Cornelius)



Waffles and Windmills (I suspect I will have to make a lot of injury
related changes tomorrow morning and noon)

DF: Van Dijk (Liverpool) J. Timber (Arsenal) De Vrij (Inter)

MF: De Bruyne (MAn City), Tielemans (Aston Villa) Engels (Celtic) Doku
(Man City)

FW: Openda (Leipzig) Bakoyoko (PSV) L. De Jong (PSV) Malen (Dortmund) De Ketelaere (Atalanta)

Potential Subs would include: Gakpo, Gravenberch, DeBast, Onana,
Duranville, Vermeeren, Saelemakers, De Ligt, Geertruida, Dumfries, De
Roon, Koopmeiners, Reijnders, Xavi Simons, Ake, Van de Ven, Frimpong and
so on. Too much choice, really.

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On 2024-09-30 14:21, Werner Pichler wrote:

On 29.09.2024 23:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Preliminary Bungs:

DF: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Harry Maguire, Christian Burgess
MF: Jake Grealish, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Jadon Sancho,
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Harry Kane (C), Jamie Gittens, Bukayo Saka, Ollie Watkins, Morgan
Rogers

I note that Chelsea have left Cole Palmer out of their Conference League squad. The disrespect!

How can you drop penalty scoring machine James Tavernier ?

Preliminary Wonderland:

DF: Manuel Akanji, Stefan Posch, Emanuel Aiwu, Kevin Mbabu, Ricardo Rodríguez
MF: Renato Steffen, Stefan Schwab, Alexander Prass, Matthias Seidl
FW: Breel Embolo, Kwadwo Duah, Guido Burgstaller

Not looking good.\\

Are there lots of injuries ?

Ciao,
Werner

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:21:46 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

Not looking good.

These links can be quite useful, in case you have overlooked some
player:

https://fbref.com/en/comps/8/nations/Champions-League-Nationalities https://fbref.com/en/comps/19/nations/Europa-League-Nationalities

Not available for the ConfLeague, though (yet?)

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On 2024-10-01 05:07, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:21:46 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

Not looking good.

These links can be quite useful, in case you have overlooked some
player:

https://fbref.com/en/comps/8/nations/Champions-League-Nationalities https://fbref.com/en/comps/19/nations/Europa-League-Nationalities

Very useful, thanks. when a player is missing does that mean he has not
played any minutes or was not registered for the competition, or what?

Not available for the ConfLeague, though (yet?)

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First draft Flickers:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim),
Werner (Spurs)

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:40:47 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

First draft Flickers:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim), Werner (Spurs)

Typical Flicker arrogance, they think they can win with a 3-3-5
formation. Also, Musiala, Havertz and Wrtz as midfielders? WTF, UEFA

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:41:19 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 30/09/2024 13.33, Werner Pichler wrote:

Orientation:

If I made no mistakes this would have been the best
line-ups for Matchday 1 CL+EL:

Is Wanner a Flicker or a Wonderlander?

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team
rules. If a player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be
selected by managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible.
Example: Kemar Roofe in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and
Jamaica. Since then he has declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible
for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).


Sounds like he could be eligible for both: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Wanner

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On 01/10/2024 17.56, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:40:47 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

First draft Flickers:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim),
Werner (Spurs)

Typical Flicker arrogance, they think they can win with a 3-3-5
formation. Also, Musiala, Havertz and Wrtz as midfielders? WTF, UEFA

Stiller some times takes penalties, so put him in.
DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller
(Stuttgart)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim),
Werner (Spurs)

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On 30/09/2024 13.33, Werner Pichler wrote:

Orientation:

If I made no mistakes this would have been the best
line-ups for Matchday 1 CL+EL:

Is Wanner a Flicker or a Wonderlander?

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Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@stofanet.dk> wrote:

On 30/09/2024 13.33, Werner Pichler wrote:

Orientation:

If I made no mistakes this would have been the best
line-ups for Matchday 1 CL+EL:

Is Wanner a Flicker or a Wonderlander?

Neither, or both. He hasn’t decided yet.
I should pick him.


Ciao,
Werner

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Vikings
DF: Kristensen (Frankfurt), Haugen (Molde), Bah (Benfice)
MF: Hedlund (Elfsborg), Eriksen (MU), Breivik (Molde), Eikrem (Molde),
Eriksen (Molde)
FW: Håland (C) (MC), Hauge (B/G), Gyökeres (Sporting), Høgh (B/G), Elyounoussi (FCK)

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:37:37 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

Barella out, Bove (Fiorentina) in as a placeholder.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Bove, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

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On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 22:08:29 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

DF: Tapsoba, Ogbu, Bright Osayi-Samuel
MF: Onyedika (Club Brugge), Leandro Andrade (Qarabag), Fisayo Dele
Bashiru (Lazio), Guelor Kanga (Crvena Zvezda)
FW: Osimhen (Galatasaray), Boniface(Leverkusen), Lookman (Atalanta),
Boulaye Dia (Lazio), Guirassy (Borussia Dortmund)

We'll stick with this. Guirassy captain.

DF: Tapsoba, Ogbu, Osayi-Samuel
MF: Onyedika, Leandro Andrade, F. Dele Bashiru (Lazio), Kanga
FW: Osimhen, Boniface, Lookman, Dia, Guirassy(c)

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 17:43:07 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

I will have to pull the Wanner option.

No love for Ndoye, Aebischer or Freuler?

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On 2024-09-30 14:20, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-29 15:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

- Before each European match day, pick 12 players eligible to play for
one national team (or a group of national teams). No more than 5
forwards, no fewer than three defenders. Select a captain. Every goal
scored by one of your Players is worth one point, every goal scored by
your captain is worth 2 points. Your total score is equal to the total
number of goals, plus a Formula 1-style Bonus for placement within the
round.

Submit your teams before kickoff of the first leg (Tuesday October 1).

There will be seven match days

1-3 Oct:  UChL2, UEL2, UCoL1
22-24 Oct: UChL3, UEL3, UCoL2
5-7 Nov: UChL4, UEL5, UCoL3
26-28 Nov: UChL5, UEL5, UCoL4
10-12 Dec:  UChL6, UEL6, UCoL5
21-23 Jan: UchL7, UEL7
29-30 Jan: UchL8, UEL8  (double points)


Additional rules:

- You can make unlimited substitutions to your squad, as long as the
club of both the subbed in and subbed out player have not kicked off
their match yet.

- Players' nationality is based on FIFA eligibility for national team
rules. If a player is eligible to play for more than one NT, he can be
selected by managers of each of the NTs for which he is eligible.
Example: Kemar Roofe in 2020-2021 was eligible for both England and
Jamaica. Since then he has declared for Jamaica, so he is only eligible
for Jamaica (or CONCACAF).

Highly tentative lineups for this week

Howling Gaels (Celts)

DF. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF:  Callum McGregor (Celtic), John McGinn (Aston Villa), Tom Lawrence (Wales) (Rangers), Connor Barron (Rangers)

FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Ross McAusland
(N. Irl) (Rangers), Blair Spittal (Hearts) Liam Boyce (Hearts)

Unfortunately Napoli (McTominay and Gilmour) and Torino (Adams) not involved.  Need to double check positions against UEFA by thurs for some
of these.

Rockers (Concafaf)

DF: Alistair Johnston (Celtic) Cameron Carter Vickers (Celtic) sergino
Dest (PSV)

MF Gio Reyna (Dortmund), Alphonso Davies (Bayern) McKennie (Juve) Yunus
Musah (Milan)

FW: Jonathan David (Lille) , Hirving Lozano (PSV), Santi Giménez (Feyenoord), Christian Pulisic (Milan) Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)

Balogun, Pepi Tillman and others in reserve.  Again, too bad Marseille
are not in Europe (Koné, Cornelius)

Will update complete lineups in about an hour.
Auston Trusty in for Carter Vickers . Both celtic.
Lozano out, Max Johnston in (Graz)

Waffles and Windmills  (I suspect I will have to make a lot of injury related changes tomorrow morning and noon)

DF:  Van Dijk (Liverpool) J. Timber (Arsenal) De Vrij (Inter)

MF: De Bruyne (MAn City), Tielemans (Aston Villa) Engels (Celtic) Doku
(Man City)

De Bruyne out, Trossard in (I checked, UEFA thinks he is a MF)

FW: Openda (Leipzig) Bakoyoko (PSV) L. De Jong (PSV) Malen (Dortmund) De Ketelaere (Atalanta)

Potential Subs would include:  Gakpo, Gravenberch, DeBast, Onana, Duranville, Vermeeren, Saelemakers, De Ligt, Geertruida, Dumfries, De
Roon, Koopmeiners, Reijnders, Xavi Simons, Ake, Van de Ven, Frimpong and
so on.  Too much choice, really.

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:10:32 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 01/10/2024 17.56, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:40:47 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

First draft Flickers:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim), >>> Werner (Spurs)

Typical Flicker arrogance, they think they can win with a 3-3-5
formation. Also, Musiala, Havertz and Wrtz as midfielders? WTF, UEFA

Stiller some times takes penalties, so put him in.
DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller
(Stuttgart)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim), Werner (Spurs)

Strong start for the Flickers, with goals by Adeyemi and Can (a defender according to UEFA?)

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Strong start for the Flickers, with goals by Adeyemi and Can (a defender according to UEFA?)

Will have to do this systematically at one point, but so far I think we
have:

Wakas 5 (Guirassy 2(x2), Boniface)
Flickers 5 (Can, Adeyemi 3, Havertz)
Vikings 2 (Haaland (x2)
Bungs 1 (Saka)
Jogo 1 (Raphinha)


Notable left out goals: Sima 2, Gundogan, Foden, Arnautovic

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On 2024-10-01 11:43, Werner Pichler wrote:

On 01.10.2024 02:45, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-30 14:21, Werner Pichler wrote:

On 29.09.2024 23:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Preliminary Bungs:


DF: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Harry Maguire, Christian Burgess
MF: Jake Grealish, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Jadon Sancho,
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Harry Kane (C), Jamie Gittens, Bukayo Saka, Ollie Watkins, Morgan
Rogers

I note that Chelsea have left Cole Palmer out of their Conference League >>> squad. The disrespect!

How can you drop penalty scoring machine James Tavernier ?

Hmm. It's true he has been serviceable in the past, but wasn't he
already half out the door?

He has played all the league games so far. No goals though. Only one
goal in the league cup. Looks like he played all the European matches too.

Preliminary Wonderland:

DF: Manuel Akanji, Stefan Posch, Emanuel Aiwu, Kevin Mbabu, Ricardo
Rodríguez
MF: Renato Steffen, Stefan Schwab, Alexander Prass, Matthias Seidl
FW: Breel Embolo, Kwadwo Duah, Guido Burgstaller

Not looking good.\\

Are there lots of injuries ?

Some, like Alaba or Schlager. But it's mostly just slim pickings,
especially in attack. Both Salzburg and Sturm usually have just one
Austrian in the line-up, and they're both defenders.

I will have to pull the Wanner option.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:03:32 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:20:03 +0000, MH wrote:

Howling Gaels (Celts)
Rockers (Concafaf)
Waffles and Windmills

Thanks for these entries. Deafult captains are the first listed
forwards: Idah, David and Openda

Google sheet with all entries here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTZNT_mgmmcdhyWncCeBjrVAU-yLxWkDRqhZcmOW6O0/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to add scorers in the DF, MF and FW columns, some of the other columns will fill automatically (others need to be completed manually).
I haven't checked all the goals yet, so some entries could very well be missing.

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On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:20:03 +0000, MH wrote:

Howling Gaels (Celts)
Rockers (Concafaf)
Waffles and Windmills

Thanks for these entries. Deafult captains are the first listed
forwards: Idah, David and Openda

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:08:18 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 11:03:32 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:20:03 +0000, MH wrote:

Howling Gaels (Celts)
Rockers (Concafaf)
Waffles and Windmills

Thanks for these entries. Deafult captains are the first listed
forwards: Idah, David and Openda

Google sheet with all entries here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wTZNT_mgmmcdhyWncCeBjrVAU-yLxWkDRqhZcmOW6O0/edit?usp=sharing

Added some more left-out goals: Nmecha, McAtee, Schouten

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On 2024-10-02 05:03, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Mon, 30 Sep 2024 20:20:03 +0000, MH wrote:

Howling Gaels (Celts)
Rockers (Concafaf)
Waffles and Windmills

Thanks for these entries. Deafult captains are the first listed
forwards: Idah, David and Openda

Thanks, I realized this morning I had completely forgotten to designate captains. And you know what, those default choices (apart from Idah)
are pretty good so I will stick with them unless the players involved
are benched or worse.

Off to lecture. Why am I doing this in retirement? Because I am
crazy,, perhaps.

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On 01/10/2024 18.10, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 01/10/2024 17.56, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 15:40:47 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

First draft Flickers:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Musiala (Bayern), Havertz (Arsenal)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim), >>> Werner (Spurs)

Typical Flicker arrogance, they think they can win with a 3-3-5
formation. Also, Musiala, Havertz and Wrtz as midfielders? WTF, UEFA

No Musiala? Bald fraud! Put in Gnabry, but who to get in midfield? (what
is the world coming to when the Flickers are struggling to find
midfielders?)

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Dahoud
(Frankfurt)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim)

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On 01/10/2024 18.03, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Vikings
DF: Kristensen (Frankfurt), Haugen (Molde), Bah (Benfice)
MF: Hedlund (Elfsborg), Eriksen (MU), Breivik (Molde), Eikrem (Molde), Eriksen (Molde)
FW: Håland (C) (MC), Hauge (B/G), Gyökeres (Sporting), Høgh (B/G), Elyounoussi (FCK)

That lineup is actually illegal (too many midfielders). Fix that, plus
some Graz - Brugge tinkering.


DF: Kristensen (Frankfurt), Haugen (Molde), Bah (Benfica)
MF: Bøving (Graz), Eriksen (MU), Breivik (Molde), Eikrem (Molde)
FW: Håland (C) (MC), Hauge (B/G), Gyökeres (Sporting), Skov Olsen
(Brugge), Elyounoussi (FCK)

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On 2024-09-30 14:20, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-29 15:32, Futbolmetrix wrote: lineups for this week

UPDATE Weds 2024-10-02

Howling Gaels (Celts)

DF. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF: Callum McGregor (Celtic), Tom Lawrence (Wales) (Rangers), Connor
Barron (Rangers), Max Johnston CGraz)


FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl) (C), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Ross
McAusland (N. Irl) (Rangers), Blair Spittal (Hearts) Liam Boyce (Hearts)


McGinn is injured so replaced by Max Johnston. I had incorrectly
subbed Johnston in for Lozano yesterday - he is Scottish, not
CONCACAFIAN. Sorry about that.


Rockers (Concafaf)

DF: Alistair Johnston (Celtic) Auston Trusty (Celtic) sergino Dest (PSV)

MF Gio Reyna (Dortmund), Alphonso Davies (Bayern) Weston McKennie (Juve)
Yunus Musah (Milan)

FW: Jonathan David (Lille) (C), Hirving Lozano (PSV), Santi Giménez (Feyenoord), Christian Pulisic (Milan) Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)

Balogun, Pepi Tillman and others in reserve. Again, too bad Marseille
are not in Europe (Koné, Cornelius)



Waffles and Windmills (I suspect I will have to make a lot of injury
related changes tomorrow morning and noon)

DF: Van Dijk (Liverpool) J. Timber (Arsenal) De Vrij (Inter)

MF: Leandro Trossard (Arsenal), Tielemans (Aston Villa) Engels (Celtic)
Doku (Man City)

FW: Openda (Leipzig) (C) Bakoyoko (PSV) L. De Jong (PSV) Malen
(Dortmund) De Ketelaere (Atalanta)

Potential Subs would include: Gakpo, Gravenberch, DeBast, Onana,
Duranville, Vermeeren, Saelemakers, De Ligt, Geertruida, Dumfries, De
Roon, Koopmeiners, Reijnders, Xavi Simons, Ake, Van de Ven, Frimpong and
so on. Too much choice, really.

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:50:05 +0000, MH wrote:


Lookman extends the Wakas' lead, while Bellanova puts the Armata on
board

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:15:59 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Dahoud (Frankfurt)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim)

Hm... Dahoud has switched allegiance to the Peaceniks, but hasn't
represented the Peaceniks yet. Can he actually switch allegiances back? Whatever, I'll let it go.

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On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:17:02 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 15:50:05 +0000, MH wrote:

Lookman extends the Wakas' lead, while Bellanova puts the Armata on
board

Captain David puts the Rockers on board

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On 02/10/2024 20.21, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

On 01/10/2024 18.03, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

Vikings
DF: Kristensen (Frankfurt), Haugen (Molde), Bah (Benfice)
MF: Hedlund (Elfsborg), Eriksen (MU), Breivik (Molde), Eikrem (Molde),
Eriksen (Molde)
FW: Håland (C) (MC), Hauge (B/G), Gyökeres (Sporting), Høgh (B/G),
Elyounoussi (FCK)

That lineup is actually illegal (too many midfielders). Fix that, plus
some Graz - Brugge tinkering.

DF: Kristensen (Frankfurt), Haugen (Molde), Bah (Benfica)
MF: Bøving (Graz), Eriksen (MU), Breivik (Molde), Eikrem (Molde)
FW: Håland (C) (MC), Hauge (B/G), Gyökeres (Sporting), Skov Olsen
(Brugge), Elyounoussi (FCK)

Bah on the scoreboard.

But other than that CL sucks

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On 02/10/2024 22.04, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Wed, 2 Oct 2024 18:15:59 +0000, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Dahoud
(Frankfurt)
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Bülter (Hoff),
Pieringer (HHeim)

Hm... Dahoud has switched allegiance to the Peaceniks, but hasn't
represented the Peaceniks yet. Can he actually switch allegiances back? Whatever, I'll let it go.

Somewhat strange to represent the country (and regime) that you left as
a refugee. But he was just a quick pick, while going through squads,
seeing the GER.

But I'll drop him again, and pick Wanner just for the lols. Hopefully
the wonderlanders will follow suit.

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Wanner
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim)

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 21:22:30 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 19:16:54 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Strong start for the Flickers, with goals by Adeyemi and Can (a defender
according to UEFA?)

Will have to do this systematically at one point, but so far I think we
have:

Wakas 5 (Guirassy 2(x2), Boniface)
Flickers 5 (Can, Adeyemi 3, Havertz)
Vikings 2 (Haaland (x2)
Bungs 1 (Saka)
Jogo 1 (Raphinha)

Update after today's matches:

Wakas 6 Guirassy 2(x2), Boniface, Lookman
Flickers 5 Can, Adeyemi 3, Havertz
Vikings 3 Haaland (x2), Bah
Rockers 2 David(x2)
Armata 1 Bellanova
Bungs 1 Saka
Jogo 1 Raphinha

Notable left out goals: Sima 2, Gundogan, Foden, Arnautovic

Most notable left-out goals: a brace by Wonderlander Schaub in an early Conference League match.

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On 02/10/2024 22.53, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

But I'll drop him again, and pick Wanner just for the lols. Hopefully
the wonderlanders will follow suit.

Lols thwarted by Wanner not playing.

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Wanner
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Bülter (Hoff), Pieringer (HHeim)

DF: Rüdiger (RM), Can (BVB), Tah (Lev)
MF: Wirtz (C) (Lev), Havertz (Arsenal), Stiller (Stuttgart), Götze
FW: Undav (Stuttgart), Adeyemi (BVB), Gnabry (Bayern), Moerstedt (Hoff), Breunig (HHeim)

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On 2024-10-02 12:33, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-30 14:20, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-29 15:32, Futbolmetrix wrote: lineups for this week

UPDATE Weds 2024-10-02

Howling Gaels (Celts)

DF. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF:  Callum McGregor (Celtic),  Tom Lawrence (Wales) (Rangers), Connor Barron (Rangers), Max Johnston CGraz)

FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl) (C), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Ross
McAusland (N. Irl) (Rangers), Blair Spittal (Hearts) Liam Boyce (Hearts)

Boyce out, Forrest (Hearts) in.
Lawrence out, Archie Gray (Tottenham, still eligible for Scotland) in.

McGinn is injured so replaced by Max Johnston.   I had incorrectly
subbed Johnston in for Lozano yesterday - he is Scottish, not
CONCACAFIAN.  Sorry about that.

Rockers (Concafaf)

DF: Alistair Johnston (Celtic) Auston Trusty (Celtic) sergino Dest (PSV)

MF Gio Reyna (Dortmund), Alphonso Davies (Bayern) Weston McKennie (Juve) Yunus Musah (Milan)

FW: Jonathan David (Lille) (C), Hirving Lozano (PSV), Santi Giménez (Feyenoord), Christian Pulisic (Milan) Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)

Balogun, Pepi Tillman and others in reserve.  Again, too bad Marseille
are not in Europe (Koné, Cornelius)

Would like to put in Bombito, Nice, but I see I have not sub
opportunities left.

Waffles and Windmills  (I suspect I will have to make a lot of injury related changes tomorrow morning and noon)

DF:  Van Dijk (Liverpool) J. Timber (Arsenal) De Vrij (Inter)

MF: Leandro Trossard (Arsenal), Tielemans (Aston Villa) Engels (Celtic)
Doku (Man City)

FW: Openda (Leipzig) (C) Bakoyoko (PSV) L. De Jong (PSV) Malen
(Dortmund) De Ketelaere (Atalanta)

Potential Subs would include:  Gakpo, Gravenberch, DeBast, Onana, Duranville, Vermeeren, Saelemakers, De Ligt, Geertruida, Dumfries, De
Roon, Koopmeiners, Reijnders, Xavi Simons, Ake, Van de Ven, Frimpong and
so on.  Too much choice, really.

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On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:43:30 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:37:37 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

Barella out, Bove (Fiorentina) in as a placeholder.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Bove, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

Baldanzi in for Pellegrini, Casadei for Bove, Sottil for Kean. Updated
Armata:


DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Baldanzi, Casadei, Frattesi, Sottil
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile

(I have to check positions, but this seems right)

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Jesper Lauridsen <rorschak@stofanet.dk> wrote:

On 02/10/2024 22.53, Jesper Lauridsen wrote:

But I'll drop him again, and pick Wanner just for the lols. Hopefully
the wonderlanders will follow suit.

Lols thwarted by Wanner not playing.

Wanner subbed in (lol), sees a bad penalty saved
(lol), taps in the rebound to get the Wonderland on
board (lol!).

Ciao,
Werner

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Werner Pichler <wpichler@gmail.com> wrote:

On 30.09.2024 22:21, Werner Pichler wrote:

On 29.09.2024 23:32, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Preliminary Bungs:


DF: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Harry Maguire, Christian Burgess
MF: Jake Grealish, Ruben Loftus-Cheek, Jadon Sancho,
Kiernan Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Harry Kane (C), Jamie Gittens, Bukayo Saka, Ollie Watkins, Morgan
Rogers

I note that Chelsea have left Cole Palmer out of their Conference League
squad. The disrespect!

Alright, alright, Tavernier in for Burgess.

DF: Alexander-Arnold, Maguire, Tavernier
MF: Grealish, Loftus-Cheek, Sancho, Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Kane (C), Gittens, Saka, Watkins, Rogers

Preliminary Wonderland:

DF: Manuel Akanji, Stefan Posch, Emanuel Aiwu, Kevin Mbabu, Ricardo
Rodríguez
MF: Renato Steffen, Stefan Schwab, Alexander Prass, Matthias Seidl
FW: Breel Embolo, Kwadwo Duah, Guido Burgstaller

Not looking good.

This is the VAR offside because of which Burgstaller's goal was
cancelled: https://ibb.co/PDzgz6j

Instead Louis Schaub, who has already been labelled a bust following
his underwhelming return after years in Germany, scored his first two
goals for Rapid.

Wanner in for Mbabu.

DF: Manuel Akanji, Stefan Posch, Emanuel Aiwu, Kevin Mbabu, Ricardo
Rodríguez
MF: Renato Steffen, Stefan Schwab, Alexander Prass, Matthias Seidl
FW: Breel Embolo, Kwadwo Duah, Guido Burgstaller

DF: Akanji, Posch, Aiwu, Rodríguez
MF: Steffen, Schwab, Prass, Seidl, Wanner
FW: Embolo, Duah, Burgstaller

I see I forgot to pick a captain. Can I still designate
Duah, who hasn’t played yet?

Ciao,
Werner

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:22:05 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Tue, 1 Oct 2024 16:43:30 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:37:37 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2024 21:32:50 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Rules (copied from last year):

Armata Brancaleone first draft:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Barella, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

Barella out, Bove (Fiorentina) in as a placeholder.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Lo. Pellegrini, Bove, Frattesi
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Kean

Baldanzi in for Pellegrini, Casadei for Bove, Sottil for Kean. Updated Armata:

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Zaccagni, Baldanzi, Casadei, Frattesi, Sottil
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile

(I have to check positions, but this seems right)

Of course it isn't. Zaccagni, Baldanzi and Sottil are all listed as
forwards (while the Flickers can field Havertz, Musiala and Gotze in
midfield -- outrageous!)

Baldanzi will have to sit this one out.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Casadei, Frattesi, Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Zaccagni, Sottil

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:36:26 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Of course it isn't. Zaccagni, Baldanzi and Sottil are all listed as
forwards (while the Flickers can field Havertz, Musiala and Gotze in
midfield -- outrageous!)

Baldanzi will have to sit this one out.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Casadei, Frattesi, Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Zaccagni, Sottil

At least Zaccagni gets a goal. Also one by Eikrem for the Vikings.
And Wanner came on as a sub, missed a penalty, but then scored on the
rebound. LOLz.

Also, left-out Brennan Johnson goal for the Gaels?

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On 2024-10-03 10:32, MH wrote:

On 2024-10-02 12:33, MH wrote:

Tidying up the latest lineups

UPDATE Weds 2024-10-02

Howling Gaels (Celts)

DF. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF: Callum McGregor (Celtic), Archie Gray (Scotland) (Rangers), Connor
Barron (Rangers), Max Johnston CGraz)


FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl) (C), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Lawrence
(Wales) (Rangers), Blair Spittal (Hearts) Allan Forest (Hearts)

Took McAusland out and put Lawrence back in.


No subs possible on the two below.

Rockers (Concafaf)

DF: Alistair Johnston (Celtic) Auston Trusty (Celtic) sergino Dest (PSV)

MF Gio Reyna (Dortmund), Alphonso Davies (Bayern) Weston McKennie (Juve)
Yunus Musah (Milan)

FW: Jonathan David (Lille) (C), Hirving Lozano (PSV), Santi Giménez (Feyenoord), Christian Pulisic (Milan) Leon Bailey (Aston Villa)




Waffles and Windmills

DF: Van Dijk (Liverpool) J. Timber (Arsenal) De Vrij (Inter)

MF: Leandro Trossard (Arsenal), Tielemans (Aston Villa) Engels (Celtic)
Doku (Man City)

FW: Openda (Leipzig) (C) Bakoyoko (PSV) L. De Jong (PSV) Malen
(Dortmund) De Ketelaere (Atalanta)

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:40:48 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Also, left-out Brennan Johnson goal for the Gaels?

Also about a million left-out Waka goals, but that's par for the course.

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:32:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

DF: Akanji, Posch, Aiwu, Rodríguez
MF: Steffen, Schwab, Prass, Seidl, Wanner
FW: Embolo, Duah, Burgstaller

I see I forgot to pick a captain. Can I still designate
Duah, who hasn’t played yet?

Erm, no. Embolo had been designated as your default captain, and he has
played already. Sorry :-/

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On 2024-10-03 12:40, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:36:26 +0000, Futbolmetrix wrote:

Of course it isn't. Zaccagni, Baldanzi and Sottil are all listed as
forwards (while the Flickers can field Havertz, Musiala and Gotze in
midfield -- outrageous!)

Baldanzi will have to sit this one out.

DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova
MF: Casadei, Frattesi, Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Zaccagni, Sottil

At least Zaccagni gets a goal. Also one by Eikrem for the Vikings.
And Wanner came on as a sub, missed a penalty, but then scored on the rebound. LOLz.

Also, left-out Brennan Johnson goal for the Gaels?

Yes. Should have included him but I tend to get all the Johnsons mixed
up. There is an American one somewhere too, no?

Lawrence scored for the Gaels, and I missed one by Watt (Scotland). Did
not have time to run through TNS, Larne and Shamrock Rovers looking for
likely suspects. Also was sceptical about their ability to score at all.


BTW can I changed my (so far scoreless) Waffles and Windmills to just
Waffles. Looking at the number of players just in the CL according to
the site you provided, the combined total is larger than eg. France,
Spain or Brazil (so why can't I pick any scorers?).
Keeping track of just the Belgians will be easier, and there are enough
of them.

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On 2024-10-03 14:54, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 18:32:53 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

DF: Akanji, Posch, Aiwu, Rodríguez
MF: Steffen, Schwab, Prass, Seidl, Wanner
FW: Embolo, Duah, Burgstaller

I see I forgot to pick a captain. Can I still designate
Duah, who hasn’t played yet?

Erm, no. Embolo had been designated as your default captain, and he has played already. Sorry :-/

Yeah, verily, a Daniel come to judge. (paraphrasing Shakespeare).

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 21:35:21 +0000, MH wrote:

BTW can I changed my (so far scoreless) Waffles and Windmills to just Waffles. Looking at the number of players just in the CL according to
the site you provided, the combined total is larger than eg. France,
Spain or Brazil (so why can't I pick any scorers?).
Keeping track of just the Belgians will be easier, and there are enough
of them.

You can certainly do that. This of course lowers your chances of
winning, but you should end up with a higher efficiency score.

By the way, you were quite unlucky with Openda (c): he hit the post
twice versus Juve (not that I'm complaining...)

I'm also thinking of restricting the Wakas to just representatives of
Senegal, Cote d'Ivoire, Nigeria and Cameroon (the four highest ranked
CAF NTs today according to FIFA). But I guess I'll want to keep the
Guirassy goals this round.

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On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 21:59:32 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

MD1 results:

Waka-Waka 6
DF: Tapsoba, Ogbu, Osayi-Samuel
MF: Onyedika, Leandro Andrade, F. Dele Bashiru, Kanga
FW: Osimhen, Boniface 1, Lookman 1, Dia, Guirassy(c) 2(x2)

Flickers 5
DF: Rüdiger, Can 1, Tah
MF: Wirtz (C), Havertz 1, Stiller, Götze
FW: Undav, Adeyemi 3, Gnabry, Moerstedt, Breunig

Vikings 4
DF: Kristensen, Linnes, Bah 1
MF: Bøving, C. Eriksen, Breivik, Eikrem 1
FW: Håland (C) 1 (x2), Hauge, Gyökeres, Skov Olsen, Elyounoussi

Bungs 3
DF: Alexander-Arnold, Maguire 1, Tavernier
MF: Grealish, Loftus-Cheek, Sancho, Dewsbury-Hall 1
FW: Kane (C), Gittens, Saka 1, Watkins, Rogers

Armata 2
DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova 1
MF: Casadei, Frattesi, Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Sottil, Zaccagni 1

Rockers 2
DF: A. Johnston, Trusty, Dest
MF Reyna, Davies , McKennie, Musah
FW: David (c) 1 (x2), Lozano, Santi Giménez, Pulisic, Bailey

Jogo 1
DF: Gabriel Magalhães, Gabriel Paulista, Rodinei, Vanderson
MF: Gabriel Martinelli, Gabriel Sara, Éderson (Atalanta)
FW: Vinícius Jr. (C), Rodrygo, Endrick, Raphinha 1, Taison

Wonderland 1
DF: Akanji, Posch, Aiwu, Rodríguez
MF: Steffen, Schwab, Prass, Seidl, Wanner 1
FW: Embolo (c), Duah, Burgstaller

Waffles/Windmills 0
DF: Van Dijk, J. Timber, De Vrij
MF: Trossard, Tielemans, Engels, Doku
FW: Openda (c), Bakayoko, L. De Jong, Malen, De Ketelaere


Standings after MD1:

TotGoals TotPoints
Waka-Waka 6 16
Flickers 5 11
Vikings 4 8
Bungs 3 6
Armata 2 3.5
Rockers 2 3.5
Gaels 1 1
Jogo 1 1
Wonderland 1 1
Waffmills 0 0


Best lineups:

Armata
DF: Bellanova
MF:
FW: Zaccagni (x2), Kean

Bungs
DF: Maguire
MF: Foden, McAtee, Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Saka (x2), Rashford, Dhanda

Flickers
DF: Can
MF: Havertz, Gundogan, Nmecha, Beck, Knauff, A. Papadopoulos
FW: Adeyemi 3 (x2)

Jogo
DF:
MF:
FW: Raphinha (x2), Juninho, Pepê, Matheus Aiás, Jajá

RockersDF:
MF:
FW: David (x2)

Vikings
DF: Bah
MF: Eikrem
FW: Haaland, Brynhildsen, Ihler, Botheim 2 (x2), Højlund, [Priske,
Nguen]

Waffles/Windmills
DF: Magnée 2
MF: Schouten, Van de Beek, Milambo, Van den Boomen, Leoni, Vlap
FW: Mertens, M. Fofana 2 (x2)

Waka-Waka
DF: Salisu, S. Coulibaly, Masuaku, Correia 2
MF: Sarr, Chilufya Jr., Name
FW: Guirassy 2, Boniface, Sima 2, Lookman, Denkey 3 (x2), [Alioum,
Alfred, Franculino, I. Williams, Boga, Baidoo, Pululu]

Wonderland
DF:
MF: Schaub 2 (x2), Zakaria, Wanner, Dos Santos, Flecker
FW: Arnautovic, Mambimbi

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On 2024-10-03 16:49, Futbolmetrix wrote:

On Thu, 3 Oct 2024 21:59:32 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

MD1 results:

Waka-Waka  6
DF: Tapsoba, Ogbu, Osayi-Samuel
MF: Onyedika, Leandro Andrade, F. Dele Bashiru, Kanga
FW: Osimhen, Boniface 1, Lookman 1, Dia, Guirassy(c) 2(x2)

Flickers 5
DF: Rüdiger, Can 1, Tah
MF: Wirtz (C), Havertz  1, Stiller, Götze
FW: Undav, Adeyemi 3, Gnabry, Moerstedt, Breunig

Vikings 4
DF: Kristensen, Linnes, Bah 1
MF: Bøving, C. Eriksen, Breivik, Eikrem 1
FW: Håland (C) 1 (x2), Hauge, Gyökeres, Skov Olsen, Elyounoussi

Bungs  3
DF: Alexander-Arnold, Maguire 1, Tavernier
MF: Grealish, Loftus-Cheek, Sancho, Dewsbury-Hall 1
FW: Kane (C), Gittens, Saka 1, Watkins,  Rogers

Armata  2
DF: Gatti, Dimarco, Cambiaso, Bellanova 1
MF: Casadei, Frattesi, Lo. Pellegrini
FW: Retegui(c), Orsolini, Immobile, Sottil, Zaccagni 1

Rockers 2
DF: A. Johnston, Trusty, Dest
MF Reyna, Davies , McKennie, Musah
FW: David (c) 1 (x2), Lozano, Santi Giménez, Pulisic, Bailey

Gaels 1.

F. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar (Rangers)

MF: Callum McGregor (Celtic), Archie Gray (Scotland) (Rangers), Connor
Barron (Rangers), Max Johnston CGraz)


FW: Adam Idah (celtic, Irl) (C), Lawrence Shankland (Hearts), Lawrence
(Wales) (Rangers) 1, Blair Spittal (Hearts) Allan Forest (Hearts)

Jogo 1
DF: Gabriel Magalhães, Gabriel Paulista, Rodinei, Vanderson
MF: Gabriel Martinelli, Gabriel Sara, Éderson (Atalanta)
FW: Vinícius Jr. (C), Rodrygo, Endrick, Raphinha 1, Taison

Wonderland 1
DF: Akanji, Posch, Aiwu, Rodríguez
MF: Steffen, Schwab, Prass, Seidl, Wanner 1
FW: Embolo (c), Duah, Burgstaller

Waffles/Windmills     0
DF:  Van Dijk, J. Timber, De Vrij
MF: Trossard, Tielemans, Engels, Doku
FW: Openda (c), Bakayoko, L. De Jong, Malen, De Ketelaere

Standings after MD1:

    TotGoals    TotPoints
Waka-Waka      6    16
Flickers       5    11
Vikings        4    8
Bungs          3    6
Armata         2    3.5
Rockers           2    3.5
Gaels           1    1
Jogo           1    1
Wonderland     1    1
Waffmills      0    0

Best lineups:

Armata
DF: Bellanova
MF:
FW: Zaccagni (x2), Kean

Bungs
DF: Maguire
MF: Foden, McAtee, Dewsbury-Hall
FW: Saka (x2), Rashford, Dhanda

Flickers
DF: Can
MF: Havertz, Gundogan, Nmecha, Beck, Knauff, A. Papadopoulos
FW: Adeyemi 3 (x2)

Jogo
DF:
MF:
FW: Raphinha (x2), Juninho, Pepê, Matheus Aiás, Jajá

RockersDF:
MF:
FW: David (x2)

Vikings
DF: Bah
MF: Eikrem
FW: Haaland, Brynhildsen, Ihler, Botheim 2 (x2), Højlund, [Priske,
Nguen]

Waffles/Windmills
DF: Magnée 2
MF: Schouten, Van de Beek, Milambo, Van den Boomen, Leoni, Vlap
FW: Mertens, M. Fofana 2 (x2)

Waka-Waka
DF: Salisu, S. Coulibaly, Masuaku, Correia 2
MF: Sarr, Chilufya Jr., Name
FW: Guirassy 2, Boniface, Sima 2, Lookman, Denkey 3 (x2), [Alioum,
Alfred, Franculino, I. Williams, Boga, Baidoo, Pululu]

Wonderland
DF:
MF: Schaub 2 (x2), Zakaria, Wanner, Dos Santos, Flecker
FW: Arnautovic, Mambimbi

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 4:28:43 +0000, MH wrote:

Gaels 1.

F. Andy Robertson (Liverpool), Liam Scales (Celtic) John Souttar
(Rangers)

MF: Callum McGregor (Celtic), Archie Gray (Scotland) (Rangers), Connor Barron (Rangers), Max Johnston CGraz)

Thanks for spotting this. I have fixed the spreadsheet, and the Gaels
will no longer be forgotten!

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On Fri, 4 Oct 2024 0:06:40 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

I've added previously missing Brennan Johnson (Tottenham, MF, WAL)

Thanks. This will affect the Gaels' efficiency rating.

and
Gustavo Silva (Vitória, FW, BRA),

This won't

and switched the columns of Edward
Chilufya (Midtjylland, ZAM) and Michael Baidoo (Elfsborg, GHA)
(MF <-> FW).

Maybe next year we should just do the German NT thing and call everyone
MF/FW? No, actually not a good idea.

Everything else looks correct, even tough ones like Papadopoulos, Dos
Santos, or Dhanda :)

Wikipedia rulez.

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