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    From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Sun Mar 9 16:46:25 2025
    Why is it so unfair? Argentina and Brazil each get 6 teams all of which
    get a bye to the group stage; while everyone else only gets 4 teams and
    the 4 teams from each of those countries have to play each other in the
    first round, meaning they almost might as well only have 2 clubs from
    each of those countries in the tournament in the first place. The 1st
    round is single leg, so half the teams from those 8 countries also only
    get to play 1 match.

    So excluding teams that get 'relegated' from the Copa Libertadores (and
    them playing in it is also stupid), in the group stage, there's 6 teams guaranteed from each of Argentina and Brazil, and guaranteed only 2
    from each of the other countries.

    That's ridiculous!

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  • From MH@21:1/5 to Mark on Sun Mar 9 21:17:02 2025
    On 2025-03-09 10:46, Mark wrote:
    Why is it so unfair? Argentina and Brazil each get 6 teams all of which
    get a bye to the group stage; while everyone else only gets 4 teams and
    the 4 teams from each of those countries have to play each other in the
    first round, meaning they almost might as well only have 2 clubs from
    each of those countries in the tournament in the first place. The 1st
    round is single leg, so half the teams from those 8 countries also only
    get to play 1 match.

    So excluding teams that get 'relegated' from the Copa Libertadores (and
    them playing in it is also stupid), in the group stage, there's 6 teams guaranteed from each of Argentina and Brazil, and guaranteed only 2
    from each of the other countries.

    That's ridiculous!

    Would you have a 48 team world cup with 8 teams from each of:

    UEFA
    Conmebol
    Concacaf
    CAF
    AFC
    OFC

    ??

    That seems to be analogous to what you are arguing for.

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  • From Mark@21:1/5 to All on Tue Mar 11 19:29:58 2025
    MH wrote:

    On 2025-03-09 10:46, Mark wrote:
    Why is it so unfair? Argentina and Brazil each get 6 teams all of
    which get a bye to the group stage; while everyone else only gets 4
    teams and the 4 teams from each of those countries have to play
    each other in the first round, meaning they almost might as well
    only have 2 clubs from each of those countries in the tournament in
    the first place. The 1st round is single leg, so half the teams
    from those 8 countries also only get to play 1 match.

    So excluding teams that get 'relegated' from the Copa Libertadores
    (and them playing in it is also stupid), in the group stage,
    there's 6 teams guaranteed from each of Argentina and Brazil, and guaranteed only 2 from each of the other countries.

    That's ridiculous!

    Would you have a 48 team world cup with 8 teams from each of:

    UEFA
    Conmebol
    Concacaf
    CAF
    AFC
    OFC

    ??

    That seems to be analogous to what you are arguing for.

    If CONMEBOL justified Argentina and Brazil having more teams in it with
    a UEFA-coefficient type system, and they didn't have so many more
    teams, perhaps 5 from Argentina and Brazil and Uruguay, 4 from each of
    the next 5, and 3 each from the rest; everybody starts in the same
    round, and all knockout rounds are played over 2 legs, I'd be OK with
    that.

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