• Yet another Republican talking point discredited

    From xyzzy@21:1/5 to All on Tue Oct 3 12:34:48 2023
    By the CATO institute no less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/

    The Census Bureau this month published its most robust estimate of the U.S. immigrant population, and it casts doubt on a central Republican criticism
    of President Joe Biden: that immigration has spiraled out of his control on
    his watch.

    In fact, the new data – analyzed by our team at the Cato Institute – indicate that the number of immigrants is still 2 million below the Census Bureau’s 2017 predictions. The hyperbolic rhetoric should take a backseat
    to the verifiable data.

    […]

    The immigrant population did grow by nearly a million from July 2021 to
    July 2022. But consider the context. In 2017, the Census predicted that by
    last year, the immigrant population would have grown by 3.6 million. In reality, it grew 1.7 million – less than half the number the models predicted.

    […]

    On a longer timescale, it is apparent that the past decade has seen
    unusually slow growth in immigration. In fact, the period from 2012 to 2022
    saw slower growth in the immigrant share of the population than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s and 1970s. You have to go all the way back to the 1960s, when
    the immigrant population actually shrank, to find a lower growth rate.

    […]

    The new data dismantle the narrative that the United States is seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. Moreover, as we face the lowest
    population growth in U.S. history, a decline largely attributed to
    Americans having fewer children, the immigrant share of the population
    should naturally have a larger impact. But even in these conditions, the immigrant share is growing at the slowest rate we've seen in a generation.


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  • From leonard hofstatder@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Oct 3 08:04:29 2023
    On 10/3/2023 7:34 AM, xyzzy wrote:
    By the CATO institute no less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/


    Elon shares a different view: https://twitter.com/search?q=elon%20border&src=typed_query


    The Census Bureau this month published its most robust estimate of the U.S. immigrant population, and it casts doubt on a central Republican criticism
    of President Joe Biden: that immigration has spiraled out of his control on his watch.

    In fact, the new data – analyzed by our team at the Cato Institute – indicate that the number of immigrants is still 2 million below the Census Bureau’s 2017 predictions. The hyperbolic rhetoric should take a backseat to the verifiable data.

    […]

    The immigrant population did grow by nearly a million from July 2021 to
    July 2022. But consider the context. In 2017, the Census predicted that by last year, the immigrant population would have grown by 3.6 million. In reality, it grew 1.7 million – less than half the number the models predicted.

    […]

    On a longer timescale, it is apparent that the past decade has seen
    unusually slow growth in immigration. In fact, the period from 2012 to 2022 saw slower growth in the immigrant share of the population than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s and 1970s. You have to go all the way back to the 1960s, when the immigrant population actually shrank, to find a lower growth rate.

    […]

    The new data dismantle the narrative that the United States is seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. Moreover, as we face the lowest population growth in U.S. history, a decline largely attributed to
    Americans having fewer children, the immigrant share of the population
    should naturally have a larger impact. But even in these conditions, the immigrant share is growing at the slowest rate we've seen in a generation.



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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Oct 3 06:45:12 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 8:34:54 AM UTC-4, xyzzy wrote:
    By the CATO institute no less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/

    The Census Bureau this month published its most robust estimate of the U.S. immigrant population, and it casts doubt on a central Republican criticism of President Joe Biden: that immigration has spiraled out of his control on his watch.

    In fact, the new data – analyzed by our team at the Cato Institute – indicate that the number of immigrants is still 2 million below the Census Bureau’s 2017 predictions. The hyperbolic rhetoric should take a backseat to the verifiable data.

    […]

    The immigrant population did grow by nearly a million from July 2021 to
    July 2022. But consider the context. In 2017, the Census predicted that by last year, the immigrant population would have grown by 3.6 million. In reality, it grew 1.7 million – less than half the number the models predicted.

    […]

    On a longer timescale, it is apparent that the past decade has seen unusually slow growth in immigration. In fact, the period from 2012 to 2022 saw slower growth in the immigrant share of the population than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s and 1970s. You have to go all the way back to the 1960s, when the immigrant population actually shrank, to find a lower growth rate.

    […]

    The new data dismantle the narrative that the United States is seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. Moreover, as we face the lowest population growth in U.S. history, a decline largely attributed to
    Americans having fewer children, the immigrant share of the population should naturally have a larger impact. But even in these conditions, the immigrant share is growing at the slowest rate we've seen in a generation.


    Hmm.... I do know that we are now getting hotels full of migrants up here in upstate NY, which is not something that has happened before.

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  • From Emperor Wonko the Sane@21:1/5 to xyzzy on Tue Oct 3 08:42:42 2023
    On Tuesday, October 3, 2023 at 7:34:54 AM UTC-5, xyzzy wrote:
    By the CATO institute no less

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2023/10/03/immigration-population-labor-shortage-us-census-predictions/70964343007/

    The Census Bureau this month published its most robust estimate of the U.S. immigrant population, and it casts doubt on a central Republican criticism of President Joe Biden: that immigration has spiraled out of his control on his watch.

    In fact, the new data – analyzed by our team at the Cato Institute – indicate that the number of immigrants is still 2 million below the Census Bureau’s 2017 predictions. The hyperbolic rhetoric should take a backseat to the verifiable data.

    […]

    The immigrant population did grow by nearly a million from July 2021 to
    July 2022. But consider the context. In 2017, the Census predicted that by last year, the immigrant population would have grown by 3.6 million. In reality, it grew 1.7 million – less than half the number the models predicted.

    […]

    On a longer timescale, it is apparent that the past decade has seen unusually slow growth in immigration. In fact, the period from 2012 to 2022 saw slower growth in the immigrant share of the population than the 2000s, 1990s, 1980s and 1970s. You have to go all the way back to the 1960s, when the immigrant population actually shrank, to find a lower growth rate.

    […]

    The new data dismantle the narrative that the United States is seeing an unprecedented surge in immigration. Moreover, as we face the lowest population growth in U.S. history, a decline largely attributed to
    Americans having fewer children, the immigrant share of the population should naturally have a larger impact. But even in these conditions, the immigrant share is growing at the slowest rate we've seen in a generation.


    It seems that Census and Homeland Security need to work out a huge discrepancy.

    Doug

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