• Re: John Fetterman

    From mercellusb@21:1/5 to mercellusb on Wed May 18 05:54:45 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.


    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and Latino
    voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

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  • From mercellusb@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 18 05:51:04 2022
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to mercellusb on Wed May 18 08:33:48 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and
    Latino voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the right of many Republicans.

    -TE

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 18 12:10:11 2022
    On 5/18/2022 11:33 AM, TE wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and
    Latino voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the right of many Republicans.

    -TE




    I've had guys tell me they tend to vote D at the state level and R at
    the national.

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to unclejr on Wed May 18 12:30:24 2022
    On 5/18/2022 12:16 PM, unclejr wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 5/18/2022 11:33 AM, TE wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and
    Latino voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the right of many Republicans.

    -TE



    I've had guys tell me they tend to vote D at the state level and R at
    the national.

    Not women?

    Most of the women where I worked weren't particularly political.

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  • From JGibson@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed May 18 09:16:47 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 5/18/2022 11:33 AM, TE wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and
    Latino voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the right of many Republicans.

    -TE



    I've had guys tell me they tend to vote D at the state level and R at
    the national.

    Right before the union went on strike at my old place of employment in 2016, I remember on a back window:

    "Vote NO on the contract"
    "Trump 2016"
    "MAGA"

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  • From unclejr@21:1/5 to Ken Olson on Wed May 18 09:16:01 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 9:10:15 AM UTC-7, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 5/18/2022 11:33 AM, TE wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and
    Latino voters are more liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the right of many Republicans.

    -TE



    I've had guys tell me they tend to vote D at the state level and R at
    the national.

    Not women?

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  • From xyzzy@21:1/5 to JGibson on Wed May 18 18:55:12 2022
    JGibson <james.m.gibson@gmail.com> wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 12:10:15 PM UTC-4, Ken Olson wrote:
    On 5/18/2022 11:33 AM, TE wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:54:48 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 7:51:07 AM UTC-5, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying >>>>> gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” >>>>> Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to
    wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” >>>>> one voter recently said.
    Great NYT article

    Liberal Democrats have made the opposite mistake, confusing the
    progressive politics of college campuses and affluent suburbs with the >>>> actual politics of the country. Some liberals make the specific
    mistake of imagining that most Asian, Black and Latino voters are more >>>> liberal than they are. As a shorthand, the mistake is sometimes known
    as the Latinx problem (named for a term that most Latinos do not use).

    The same in Michigan, perhaps everywhere. Some of the most conservative
    people you will meet
    are blue-collar Democrat union-members. UAW Guys are solid blue because
    the Dem's pro-union
    bent and the "soak the rich" rhetoric, other than that, they are to the
    right of many Republicans.

    -TE



    I've had guys tell me they tend to vote D at the state level and R at
    the national.

    Right before the union went on strike at my old place of employment in
    2016, I remember on a back window:

    "Vote NO on the contract"
    "Trump 2016"
    "MAGA"

    Near my in-laws there is an Illinois River town with a house that flies a confederate flag, a KKK flag, a Fuck Joe Biden sign, and a Proud Union Household sign.

    One of the most militantly unionized groups in the private sector is
    airline pilots and they tend to also be politically conservative.

    So yeah.

    Parties are becoming based more on cultural than economic issues. Not sure
    if that trend will be good for GOP billionaires long term.

    --
    “I usually skip over your posts because of your disguistng, contrarian, liberal personality.” — Altie

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  • From TE@21:1/5 to mercellusb on Mon May 23 10:37:43 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 8:51:07 AM UTC-4, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.

    Well, to be fair, the guy he bullied wasn't "trans." Or the story failed to mention that.

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/who-among-us-has-not-chased-down-an-unarmed-black-jogger-with-a-shotgun/

    "Fetterman stands 6’8” and dresses like a mechanic/lumberjack, and the media’s hope is that a set of Bernie Sanders–like policy positions can be slipped past the electorate provided that their advocate looks like a guy who has multiple Trump
    flags draped over his house. Fetterman supports Medicare for All (i.e., abolishing your health-insurance plan and dumping you onto a federal one), says there should be no legal limits on abortion, backed Bernie Sanders for president in 2016, calls
    Elizabeth Warren a “luminary,” thinks biological males should be allowed to participate in girls’ and women’s sports, and wants a “de facto” moratorium on fracking.

    Oh, and he chased down a black jogger with a loaded shotgun in 2013. The jogger said Fetterman pointed the shotgun at his chest; Fetterman denies this but allows that his intent was to detain the jogger. At the time, Fetterman was mayor of a small town
    in Pennsylvania. Trip Gabriel of the New York Times frets, “The GOP use of this 2013 incident . . . has begun.” Gabriel previously published a detailed account of this episode that puts the gentlest imaginable spin on events but . . . Fetterman
    chased down an innocent, unarmed black jogger with a shotgun and detained him."

    -TE

    “In short, the Clinton campaign created the Trump-Alfa allegation, fed it to a credulous press that failed to confirm the allegations but ran with them anyway, then promoted the story as if it was legitimate news. The campaign also delivered the claims
    to the FBI, giving journalists another excuse to portray the accusations as serious and perhaps true.”

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  • From Michael Falkner@21:1/5 to mercellusb on Mon May 23 12:37:49 2022
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:51:07 AM UTC-7, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    They do. Congressman to dictator. Keep up with these fuckers wanna do.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.

    I never liked to wear suits myself.

    Mike

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  • From Ken Olson@21:1/5 to Michael Falkner on Mon May 23 16:16:38 2022
    On 5/23/2022 3:37 PM, Michael Falkner wrote:
    On Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 5:51:07 AM UTC-7, mercellusb wrote:
    “If you get your jollies or you get your voters excited by bullying gay and trans kids, you know, it’s time for a new line of work,” Fetterman said at a recent campaign stop.

    They do. Congressman to dictator. Keep up with these fuckers wanna do.

    He is also 6-foot-8, bearded and tattooed, and he doesn’t like to wear suits. “I think he is a visual representation of Pennsylvania,” one voter recently said.

    I never liked to wear suits myself.

    Mike

    +1

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