• Climate Change? HELL NO, Mismanagement to blame for CA fires!

    From Tommy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 23 22:06:40 2023
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring said. “
    Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become catastrophic
    fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Sep 23 22:59:01 2023
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring said.
    “Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become catastrophic
    fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance
    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and
    he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees >> are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow"
    them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?

    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on forests
    and forest fires.

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 23 22:44:44 2023
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring said.
    “Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become catastrophic
    fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance
    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and
    he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow"
    them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Sep 23 22:29:36 2023
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring said.
    Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become catastrophic
    fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance

    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and
    he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow"
    them to do anything?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Sep 23 23:30:18 2023
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring
    said. “Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance
    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and >>>> he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees
    are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow" >>>> them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on forests
    and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.

    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sat Sep 23 23:28:09 2023
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring
    said. “Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance
    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and >> he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees
    are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow" >> them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on forests
    and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 24 17:08:57 2023
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree density that is around 5 times greater than what is historically normal,” Ring
    said. “Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance
    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from UC Davis, and
    he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees
    are competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man could "allow" >>>> them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on forests >> and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Sep 24 17:17:42 2023
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the
    last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree
    density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed
    California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are
    competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This
    stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from
    UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become
    overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and
    soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man
    could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on
    forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have
    exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.

    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Sep 24 17:33:41 2023
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the
    last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree
    density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are
    competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This
    stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from
    UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become
    overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and
    soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man
    could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on
    forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical.

    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Sep 24 17:41:29 2023
    On 2023-09-24 17:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the
    last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree
    density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are
    competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This
    stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from
    UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become
    overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and
    soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man
    could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on
    forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have
    exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical.

    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you?

    You can show that anything he wrote is fact.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Sep 25 18:55:54 2023
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the >>>>>>>>> last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree >>>>>>>>> density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are
    competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This
    stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from >>>>>>>> UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become
    overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and
    soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man
    could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on >>>>>> forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have
    exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical.

    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you?
    You can show that anything he wrote is fact.

    You CAN'T show ANY reference that CONTRADICTS what Ring wrote. YOU made this claim: BACK IT UP!!!!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Sep 25 21:29:31 2023
    On 2023-09-25 18:55, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the >>>>>>>>>>> last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree >>>>>>>>>>> density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are
    competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This
    stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center".

    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from >>>>>>>>>> UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/>

    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become
    overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and
    soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man
    could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on >>>>>>>> forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have >>>>> exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical.

    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you?
    You can show that anything he wrote is fact.

    You CAN'T show ANY reference that CONTRADICTS what Ring wrote. YOU made this claim: BACK IT UP!!!!!

    You can't show any reference that corroborates what he wrote.

    The onus was on him to prove what he said.

    Otherwise, he's just another tired and tedious right-wing shill.

    Do you know who funds the "California Policy Center"?

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Sep 27 20:47:18 2023
    On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-25 18:55, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the >>>>>>>>>>> last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree >>>>>>>>>>> density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are >>>>>>>>>>> competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This >>>>>>>>>>> stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center". >>>>>>>>>>
    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from >>>>>>>>>> UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/> >>>>>>>>>>
    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become >>>>>>>>>> overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and >>>>>>>>>> soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man >>>>>>>>>> could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on >>>>>>>> forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have >>>>> exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical. >>>
    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you? >> You can show that anything he wrote is fact.

    You CAN'T show ANY reference that CONTRADICTS what Ring wrote. YOU made this claim: BACK IT UP!!!!!
    You can't show any reference that corroborates what he wrote.

    The onus was on him to prove what he said.

    Otherwise, he's just another tired and tedious right-wing shill.

    Do you know who funds the "California Policy Center"?

    :-)

    Hey idiot, it is YOU that can't provide ANY contradictory evidence - I DARE YOU!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Sep 27 21:54:08 2023
    On 2023-09-27 20:47, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, September 25, 2023 at 9:29:44 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-25 18:55, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:41:33 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:33, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, September 24, 2023 at 5:17:45 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-24 17:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 11:30:21 PM UTC-7, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>> On 2023-09-23 23:28, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:59:05 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:44, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, September 23, 2023 at 10:29:43 PM UTC-7, Alan >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
    On 2023-09-23 22:06, Tommy wrote:
    “Due to fire suppression, combined with the
    near-elimination of California timber harvesting over the >>>>>>>>>>>>> last 30 years, California’s forests have developed a tree >>>>>>>>>>>>> density that is around 5 times greater than what is
    historically normal,” Ring said. “Because we’ve allowed >>>>>>>>>>>>> California’s forests to become overcrowded, trees are >>>>>>>>>>>>> competing for light, rainfall, and soil nutrients. This >>>>>>>>>>>>> stress leaves the trees dried out and provides a
    tremendous amount of fuel for what can often become
    catastrophic fires.”

    https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/insurers-flee-newsom-signs-executive-order-save-property-insurance


    That's a quote from Edward Ring of "California Policy Center". >>>>>>>>>>>>
    'Ring’s undergraduate degree is in Political Science from >>>>>>>>>>>> UC Davis, and he has an MBA in Finance from USC'

    <https://californiapolicycenter.org/people/edward-ring/> >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So why is his opinion about the subject of any value?

    'Because we’ve allowed California’s forests to become >>>>>>>>>>>> overcrowded, trees are competing for light, rainfall, and >>>>>>>>>>>> soil nutrients'

    Does he even know that forests were there long before man >>>>>>>>>>>> could "allow" them to do anything?

    Why don't you deal with FACTS, Fool?
    I did deal with facts, Sunshine:

    Fact: You went to a highly biased website.

    Fact: They quoted a highly biased and unqualified non-expert on >>>>>>>>>> forests and forest fires.

    :-)

    No you didn't - produce some facts that dispute what is
    presented. You can't because EVERYTHING he wrote is TRUE.
    I did.

    You presented the unqualified opinions of a right-wing
    know-nothing.

    That's a fact.

    No, you presented an ad hominem attack with ZERO FACTS. And you have >>>>>>> exactly ZERO credentials to challenge Ed Ring.
    And you presented the assertions of an unqualified right-wing radical. >>>>>
    You can't come up with any facts that CONTRADICT what he wrote, can you? >>>> You can show that anything he wrote is fact.

    You CAN'T show ANY reference that CONTRADICTS what Ring wrote. YOU made this claim: BACK IT UP!!!!!
    You can't show any reference that corroborates what he wrote.

    The onus was on him to prove what he said.

    Otherwise, he's just another tired and tedious right-wing shill.

    Do you know who funds the "California Policy Center"?

    :-)

    Hey idiot, it is YOU that can't provide ANY contradictory evidence - I DARE YOU!

    No evidence was presented, Sunshine.

    Do you actually know the difference between evidence and assertion?

    :-)

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