OK...liable:
'A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons liable for
fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial statements for roughly
a decade.
Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case involving
the New York attorney general’s office and the former president was set
to go to trial.'
<https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/trump-organization-business-fraud/index.html>
'In the order, the judge rejected Trump’s deposition testimony in which
the former president said that the financial statements were not
fraudulent because they contained disclaimers. Trump said the statements contained a “worthless clause” in them warning lenders and others that they shouldn’t be relied on.
Tuesday, the judge said that “the defendants’ reliance on these ‘worthless’ disclaimers is worthless.”
The ruling means the attorney general’s office won on its first two
claims and will receive some amount of disgorgement to be determined at trial. The case will still proceed to trial but the attorney general’s office won’t need to prove the financial statements are false as they
seek to hold him and his sons liable for insurance fraud and false
business records.'
On 9/26/23 20:17, Alan wrote:trial. Because there is overwhelming evidence of guilt, Trump's only hope was to get a true believer on the jury who would refuse to convict. But thanks to Ms Habba Trump and company were at the mercy of Judge Arthur Engoron, a strict, by-the-book judge
OK...liable:
'A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial statements for roughly
a decade.
Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former president was set to go to trial.'
<https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/trump-organization-business-fraud/index.html>
'In the order, the judge rejected Trump’s deposition testimony in which the former president said that the financial statements were not fraudulent because they contained disclaimers. Trump said the statements contained a “worthless clause” in them warning lenders and others that they shouldn’t be relied on.
Tuesday, the judge said that “the defendants’ reliance on these ‘worthless’ disclaimers is worthless.”
The ruling means the attorney general’s office won on its first two claims and will receive some amount of disgorgement to be determined at trial. The case will still proceed to trial but the attorney general’s office won’t need to prove the financial statements are false as they seek to hold him and his sons liable for insurance fraud and false business records.'This is a big, big deal. Trump will appeal, of course, but his reliance on mall lawyers has done him real damage this time. Trump lawyer Alina Habba, who somehow passed the NY Bar exam, forgot to file paperwork within the allotted time to choose a jury
There will be details to be worked out along with the inevitable appeals, but Trump is toast.
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:13:08 PM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
On 9/26/23 20:17, Alan wrote:
OK...liable:This is a big, big deal. Trump will appeal, of course, but his
'A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons
liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial
statements for roughly a decade.
Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case
involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former
president was set to go to trial.'
<https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/trump-organization-business-fraud/index.html>
'In the order, the judge rejected Trump’s deposition testimony in
which
the former president said that the financial statements were not
fraudulent because they contained disclaimers. Trump said the
statements contained a “worthless clause” in them warning lenders
and others that they shouldn’t be relied on.
Tuesday, the judge said that “the defendants’ reliance on these
‘worthless’ disclaimers is worthless.”
The ruling means the attorney general’s office won on its first
two claims and will receive some amount of disgorgement to be
determined at trial. The case will still proceed to trial but the
attorney general’s office won’t need to prove the financial
statements are false as they seek to hold him and his sons liable
for insurance fraud and false business records.'
reliance on mall lawyers has done him real damage this time. Trump
lawyer Alina Habba, who somehow passed the NY Bar exam, forgot to
file paperwork within the allotted time to choose a jury trial.
Because there is overwhelming evidence of guilt, Trump's only hope
was to get a true believer on the jury who would refuse to convict.
But thanks to Ms Habba Trump and company were at the mercy of Judge
Arthur Engoron, a strict, by-the-book judge who takes no shit from
anyone.
There will be details to be worked out along with the inevitable
appeals, but Trump is toast.
LOL! All of the organizations involved are VERY EXPERIENCED lenders
who know just A BIT MORE about valuating properties than this judge
or you idiot libtards. Do you assholes REALLY think they DID NOT do
their due diligence in evaluating the risks involved, REALLY???
On 2023-09-27 17:36, Tommy wrote:
On Wednesday, September 27, 2023 at 4:13:08 PM UTC-7, Carbon wrote:
On 9/26/23 20:17, Alan wrote:
OK...liable:This is a big, big deal. Trump will appeal, of course, but his
'A New York judge has found Donald Trump and his adult sons
liable for fraud, saying the Trumps provided false financial
statements for roughly a decade.
Judge Arthur Engoron’s ruling came days before the civil case
involving the New York attorney general’s office and the former
president was set to go to trial.'
<https://www.cnn.com/2023/09/26/politics/trump-organization-business-fraud/index.html>
'In the order, the judge rejected Trump’s deposition testimony in
which
the former president said that the financial statements were not
fraudulent because they contained disclaimers. Trump said the
statements contained a “worthless clause” in them warning lenders >>> and others that they shouldn’t be relied on.
Tuesday, the judge said that “the defendants’ reliance on these
‘worthless’ disclaimers is worthless.”
The ruling means the attorney general’s office won on its first
two claims and will receive some amount of disgorgement to be
determined at trial. The case will still proceed to trial but the
attorney general’s office won’t need to prove the financial
statements are false as they seek to hold him and his sons liable
for insurance fraud and false business records.'
reliance on mall lawyers has done him real damage this time. Trump
lawyer Alina Habba, who somehow passed the NY Bar exam, forgot to
file paperwork within the allotted time to choose a jury trial.
Because there is overwhelming evidence of guilt, Trump's only hope
was to get a true believer on the jury who would refuse to convict.
But thanks to Ms Habba Trump and company were at the mercy of Judge
Arthur Engoron, a strict, by-the-book judge who takes no shit from
anyone.
There will be details to be worked out along with the inevitable
appeals, but Trump is toast.
LOL! All of the organizations involved are VERY EXPERIENCED lendersSo you're saying that Trump's valuations were accurate?
who know just A BIT MORE about valuating properties than this judge
or you idiot libtards. Do you assholes REALLY think they DID NOT do
their due diligence in evaluating the risks involved, REALLY???
He bought Mar-a-Lago for $10 million...
...and you think that $1 BILLION is a fair valuation?
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