• OT: "A total sham"

    From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Mon Aug 8 15:42:40 2022
    'THE FBI CONFIRMS ITS BRETT KAVANAUGH INVESTIGATION WAS A TOTAL SHAM

    Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the
    Supreme Court or anything.'

    <https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation>

    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray (emphasis ours):

    'Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a
    frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and
    Senator Chris Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up. First,
    is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular tip-line traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without investigation?

    Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We
    have tried to be clear about our process. So when it comes to the tip
    line, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the
    information we have, so when the hundreds of calls started coming in, we gathered those up, reviewed them, and provided them to the White House—

    Whitehouse: Without investigation?

    Wray [long pause]: We reviewed them and then provided them to—

    Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from
    tip-line traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related
    to Kavanaugh, correct?

    Wray: Correct.

    Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental B.I. [background investigation], the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom
    the FBI would question, and even what questions the FBI could ask?

    Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that
    we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration,
    the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to
    follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited
    supplemental B.I., we take direction from the requesting entity, which
    in this case was the White House, as to what follow-up they want. That’s
    the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about
    who and what?

    Whitehouse: Yeah. I said, Is it true?

    Wray: It is true as to the who. I’m not sure, as I sit here, whether
    it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the who we interviewed.'

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  • From Tom Elam@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 9 05:06:33 2022
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:42:45 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    'THE FBI CONFIRMS ITS BRETT KAVANAUGH INVESTIGATION WAS A TOTAL SHAM

    Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the
    Supreme Court or anything.'

    <https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation>

    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray (emphasis ours):

    'Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and
    Senator Chris Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up. First, is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular tip-line traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without investigation?

    Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We
    have tried to be clear about our process. So when it comes to the tip
    line, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the
    information we have, so when the hundreds of calls started coming in, we gathered those up, reviewed them, and provided them to the White House—

    Whitehouse: Without investigation?

    Wray [long pause]: We reviewed them and then provided them to—

    Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from
    tip-line traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related
    to Kavanaugh, correct?

    Wray: Correct.

    Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental B.I. [background investigation], the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom
    the FBI would question, and even what questions the FBI could ask?

    Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that
    we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration,
    the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to
    follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited supplemental B.I., we take direction from the requesting entity, which
    in this case was the White House, as to what follow-up they want. That’s the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about
    who and what?

    Whitehouse: Yeah. I said, Is it true?

    Wray: It is true as to the who. I’m not sure, as I sit here, whether it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the who
    we interviewed.'

    The same guy you just mentioned favorably in another thread on the raid on Trump's home?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tom Elam on Tue Aug 9 07:45:55 2022
    On 2022-08-09 05:06, Tom Elam wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:42:45 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    'THE FBI CONFIRMS ITS BRETT KAVANAUGH INVESTIGATION WAS A TOTAL SHAM

    Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the
    Supreme Court or anything.'

    <https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation> >>
    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon
    Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray
    (emphasis ours):

    'Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a
    frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and
    Senator Chris Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background
    investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up. First, >> is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular
    tip-line traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without
    investigation?

    Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We
    have tried to be clear about our process. So when it comes to the tip
    line, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the
    information we have, so when the hundreds of calls started coming in, we
    gathered those up, reviewed them, and provided them to the White House—

    Whitehouse: Without investigation?

    Wray [long pause]: We reviewed them and then provided them to—

    Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from
    tip-line traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related
    to Kavanaugh, correct?

    Wray: Correct.

    Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental B.I. [background
    investigation], the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom
    the FBI would question, and even what questions the FBI could ask?

    Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that
    we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration,
    the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to
    follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited
    supplemental B.I., we take direction from the requesting entity, which
    in this case was the White House, as to what follow-up they want. That’s >> the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently >> followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about
    who and what?

    Whitehouse: Yeah. I said, Is it true?

    Wray: It is true as to the who. I’m not sure, as I sit here, whether
    it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the who
    we interviewed.'

    The same guy you just mentioned favorably in another thread on the raid on Trump's home?

    I didn't mention him "favorably", Liarboy.

    I pointed out that any bias in the FBI director's actions would be in
    Trump's favour...

    ...just like they were in the Kavanaugh investigation.

    Do you ever bother thinking these days, Liarboy?

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  • From TomS@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Aug 9 15:59:38 2022
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:45:58 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 05:06, Tom Elam wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:42:45 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    'THE FBI CONFIRMS ITS BRETT KAVANAUGH INVESTIGATION WAS A TOTAL SHAM

    Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the
    Supreme Court or anything.'

    <https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation>

    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon
    Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray >> (emphasis ours):

    'Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a
    frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and
    Senator Chris Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background
    investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up. First,
    is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular >> tip-line traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without
    investigation?

    Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We
    have tried to be clear about our process. So when it comes to the tip
    line, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the
    information we have, so when the hundreds of calls started coming in, we >> gathered those up, reviewed them, and provided them to the White House— >>
    Whitehouse: Without investigation?

    Wray [long pause]: We reviewed them and then provided them to—

    Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from
    tip-line traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related >> to Kavanaugh, correct?

    Wray: Correct.

    Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental B.I. [background >> investigation], the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom
    the FBI would question, and even what questions the FBI could ask?

    Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that >> we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration, >> the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to
    follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited
    supplemental B.I., we take direction from the requesting entity, which
    in this case was the White House, as to what follow-up they want. That’s
    the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently
    followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about
    who and what?

    Whitehouse: Yeah. I said, Is it true?

    Wray: It is true as to the who. I’m not sure, as I sit here, whether
    it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the who
    we interviewed.'

    The same guy you just mentioned favorably in another thread on the raid on Trump's home?
    I didn't mention him "favorably", Liarboy.
    Sure sounded like it to me, Fool.

    I pointed out that any bias in the FBI director's actions would be in Trump's favour...
    Yeah, as if a Gestapo raid of his home would be in his FAVOR.

    ...just like they were in the Kavanaugh investigation.
    As if Vanity Fair is a reliable news source.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to TomS on Tue Aug 9 16:01:48 2022
    On 2022-08-09 15:59, TomS wrote:
    On Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 7:45:58 AM UTC-7, Alan wrote:
    On 2022-08-09 05:06, Tom Elam wrote:
    On Monday, August 8, 2022 at 6:42:45 PM UTC-4, Alan wrote:
    'THE FBI CONFIRMS ITS BRETT KAVANAUGH INVESTIGATION WAS A TOTAL SHAM

    Oh, well, it’s not like he received a lifetime appointment to the
    Supreme Court or anything.'

    <https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2022/08/brett-kavanaugh-fbi-investigation>

    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday, Senator Sheldon
    Whitehouse had the following exchange with FBI director Christopher Wray >>>> (emphasis ours):

    'Whitehouse: As you know, we are now entering the fourth year of a
    frustrating saga that began with an August 2019 letter from me and
    Senator Chris Coons, regarding the Kavanaugh supplemental background
    investigation. And I’d like to try to get that matter wrapped up. First, >>>> is it true that after Kavanaugh-related tips were separated from regular >>>> tip-line traffic, they were forwarded to White House counsel without
    investigation?

    Wray: I apologize in advance that it has been frustrating for you. We
    have tried to be clear about our process. So when it comes to the tip
    line, we wanted to make sure that the White House had all the
    information we have, so when the hundreds of calls started coming in, we >>>> gathered those up, reviewed them, and provided them to the White House— >>>>
    Whitehouse: Without investigation?

    Wray [long pause]: We reviewed them and then provided them to—

    Whitehouse: You reviewed them for purposes of separating them from
    tip-line traffic, but did not further investigate the ones that related >>>> to Kavanaugh, correct?

    Wray: Correct.

    Whitehouse: Is it also true that, in that supplemental B.I. [background >>>> investigation], the FBI took direction from the White House as to whom >>>> the FBI would question, and even what questions the FBI could ask?

    Wray: So, it is true that, consistent with the longstanding process that >>>> we have had going all the way back to at least the Bush administration, >>>> the Obama administration, the Trump administration, and continue to
    follow currently under the Biden administration, that in a limited
    supplemental B.I., we take direction from the requesting entity, which >>>> in this case was the White House, as to what follow-up they want. That’s >>>> the direction we’ve followed. That’s the direction we’ve consistently
    followed throughout the decades, frankly. You asked specifically about >>>> who and what?

    Whitehouse: Yeah. I said, Is it true?

    Wray: It is true as to the who. I’m not sure, as I sit here, whether >>>> it’s also true as to the “what questions,” but it is true as to the who
    we interviewed.'

    The same guy you just mentioned favorably in another thread on the raid on Trump's home?
    I didn't mention him "favorably", Liarboy.
    Sure sounded like it to me, Fool.

    Really?

    Quote the part that you claim sounded like that.


    I pointed out that any bias in the FBI director's actions would be in
    Trump's favour...
    Yeah, as if a Gestapo raid of his home would be in his FAVOR.

    That's the POINT, Sunshine.

    The case against Trump must be pretty overwhelming if his appointee was
    going to authorize this.


    ...just like they were in the Kavanaugh investigation.
    As if Vanity Fair is a reliable news source.

    Those were direct quotes, Sunshine.

    'In a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Thursday'

    Do you want to admit defeat now, or shall I pull of the official
    transcript for you first?

    :-)

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