• BOMBSHELL: Yet MORE classified docs found in Lyin' Biden's home!

    From Tommy@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jan 14 10:19:24 2023
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jan 14 10:25:57 2023
    On 2023-01-14 10:19, Tommy wrote:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Look up "mens rea".

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Moderate on Sat Jan 14 15:54:59 2023
    On 2023-01-14 15:29, Moderate wrote:
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-
    us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Twenty seems like too many.

    So than you must be aghast about 300 or more...

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  • From Moderate@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jan 14 17:29:48 2023
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-
    us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Twenty seems like too many.
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  • From Moderate@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Jan 16 21:14:03 2023
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-
    us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Moderate on Mon Jan 16 20:10:20 2023
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-
    us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.

    Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified
    documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

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  • From Moderate@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jan 16 22:30:16 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over
    the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has
    classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Biden abandoned classified documents and had others scattered
    around Hunter's house and garage.
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Moderate on Mon Jan 16 22:38:55 2023
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over
    the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has
    classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".


    Biden abandoned classified documents and had others scattered
    around Hunter's house and garage.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jan 16 22:49:56 2023
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over
    the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has
    classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.



    Biden abandoned classified documents and had others scattered
    around Hunter's house and garage.

    No comment, I see.

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  • From Moderate@21:1/5 to Tommy on Tue Jan 17 05:42:11 2023
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote: > > Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message: > >> On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the
    total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/
    more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified
    documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office. > > > > Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were > > negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all > > secure. > > Trump's attorney signed a
    statement that claimed everything had been > returned. > > There was no "negotiating". Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.> > > > > Biden abandoned classified documents and had others scattered > > around Hunter's house and garage.No
    comment, I see.

    What attorney?
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  • From Moderate@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jan 17 05:41:21 2023
    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:> Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> Wrote in message:>> On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop
    characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-
    white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he
    left office.> > Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all> secure.Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been returned.There was no "
    negotiating".> > Biden abandoned classified documents and had others scattered> around Hunter's house and garage.

    Name the attorney.
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  • From One Putt@21:1/5 to Alan on Tue Jan 17 12:56:41 2023
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 20:10:20 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-
    us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.

    Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified
    documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Let us know when it became to okay to leave classified documents
    laying around your garage.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jan 17 13:26:15 2023
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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to One Putt on Tue Jan 17 13:26:46 2023
    On 2023-01-17 10:56, One Putt wrote:
    On Mon, 16 Jan 2023 20:10:20 -0800, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:

    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:
    Tommy <soar2morrow@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:
    This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/
    en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb

    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.

    Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified
    documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Let us know when it became to okay to leave classified documents
    laying around your garage.

    I never said it was okay, Irving.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jan 18 22:01:11 2023
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over
    the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has
    classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jan 19 02:42:42 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take over
    the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has
    classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Wed Jan 25 17:43:51 2023
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?
    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jan 25 18:58:51 2023
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 8:43:53 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been >> returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    Oh, look: Tommy again reveals he doesn’t understand how this stuff works!

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Jan 25 19:46:35 2023
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been >>>>> returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they? >> Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Jan 26 03:01:38 2023
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>>>>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been >>>>> returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Jan 27 21:27:51 2023
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>>>>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been >>>>> returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?
    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Jan 27 21:33:44 2023
    On 2023-01-27 21:27, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to take
    over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden
    has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>>>>>>>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been >>>>>>>> returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?
    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    What "question", Sunshine?

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sat Jan 28 04:35:11 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to
    take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>>>>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out of a SCIF with docs
    that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Jan 29 18:48:45 2023
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to
    take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out of a SCIF with docs
    that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - it is up to senile pervert Lyin' Biden explain HOW he came in possession of top secret documents. ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jan 29 18:55:15 2023
    On 2023-01-29 18:48, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh
    wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan
    wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8,
    Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy
    <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This
    brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the
    libtards are going to stop characterizing the
    scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI
    going to take over the search of ALL of senile
    pervert Lyin' Biden's
    residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb>
    Biden has classified documents scattered
    everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even
    half of the number of classified documents that
    Trump deliberately took with him when he left
    office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his
    attorney's were negotiating with the archivists
    on the others. They were all secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed
    everything had been returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT
    Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the
    White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of
    Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how
    senile pervert Lyin' Biden got the top secret documents out
    of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top
    Secret - Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed
    removal of TS (not TS-SCI) material from a SCIF (SCI Facility).
    Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it
    has been broadly reported that Trump had documents up to TS &
    TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of
    cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy
    appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification
    level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were
    physically removed from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't
    get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not
    only has this also not been documented, it also shows that
    Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how
    one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really
    is and their rules of operation. This is kind of surprising,
    since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance.
    Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled
    documents can only be accessed inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is
    wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought
    into or out of a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier'
    discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both
    use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents
    outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal' office
    spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE
    QUESTION!!
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim
    that Biden walked out of a SCIF with docs that you need to
    substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    -hh

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - it is up
    to senile pervert Lyin' Biden explain HOW he came in possession of
    top secret documents. ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as
    myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    Where does it say that any of the documents he possessed were "top
    secret", Sunshine?

    And where do you get the idea that all top secret documents must be in
    an SCIF?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Jan 29 19:57:29 2023
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to
    take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were >>>>>>>>>>>> negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret - >>>>>> Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out of a SCIF with docs
    that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims? Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Jan 29 19:16:30 2023
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going
    to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported that Trump had
    documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just
    what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to
    provide cites which clearly state *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed from a SCIF,
    presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he walked out of a SCIF. Not only has
    this also not been documented, it also shows that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example
    as to how one can "walk out" without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation. This is kind of
    surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working for Battelle with his claims that he
    had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast rule that controlled documents can only be accessed
    inside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of
    a SCIF (and Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently both use,
    and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF, including in the likes of 'normal'
    office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!). Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out of a SCIF with docs
    that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims? Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers?

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Mon Jan 30 18:07:10 2023
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to
    take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!! >>>
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims? Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)

    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Mon Jan 30 22:56:51 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going
    to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump.

    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!! >>>
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Mon Jan 30 23:43:03 2023
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going to
    take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!! >>>>>>
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims? >>>> Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated >>>> with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection
    violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.

    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Feb 1 20:35:30 2023
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going
    to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection >>>> violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Feb 1 20:51:45 2023
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 11:35:31 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI
    going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=
    b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one. >>>>>>>>
    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection >>>> violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF.

    Wrong question. The proper question is: "what documents are *not* allowed in a SCIF?"

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Feb 1 21:46:21 2023
    On 2023-02-01 20:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message:
    On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI going
    to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> >
    Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF.

    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one.

    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!! >>>>>>>>
    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - …

    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection >>>>>> violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF.

    I don't need to, Sunshine.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but which are
    not top secret?

    :-)

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Feb 1 22:08:01 2023
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:46:24 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 20:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI
    going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=
    b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF. >>>>>>>>>>>
    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one. >>>>>>>>>>
    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - … >>>>>>
    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection >>>>>> violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security
    clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF.
    I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but which are
    not top secret?

    DUH!


    :-)

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Wed Feb 1 22:17:23 2023
    On 2023-02-01 22:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:46:24 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 20:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI
    going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=
    b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - … >>>>>>>>
    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection >>>>>>>> violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security >>>>>>> clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF. >> I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!

    No. I really don't.


    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but which are
    not top secret?

    DUH!

    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Wed Feb 1 22:55:42 2023
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 10:17:26 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 22:08, Tommy wrote:
    On Wednesday, February 1, 2023 at 9:46:24 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 20:35, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 11:43:06 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-30 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 30, 2023 at 6:07:12 PM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 10:57:36 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-29 19:16, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 9:48:47 PM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 4:35:13 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, January 28, 2023 at 12:27:52 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 26, 2023 at 3:01:40 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, January 25, 2023 at 10:46:39 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-25 17:43, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 2:42:44 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, January 19, 2023 at 1:01:15 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 22:49, Tommy wrote:
    On Monday, January 16, 2023 at 10:38:58 PM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-01-16 20:30, Moderate wrote:
    Alan <nuh...@nope.com> Wrote in message: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2023-01-16 19:14, Moderate wrote:> Tommy <soar2...@yahoo.com> Wrote in message:>> This brings the total now to TWENTY! When are the libtards are going to stop characterizing the scandal as "just a few"??? And, WHEN is the FBI
    going to take over the search of ALL of senile pervert Lyin' Biden's residencies????https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/more-classified-documents-found-at-biden-s-wilmington-home-white-house-counsel-says/ar-AA16lkZs?cvid=
    b0e770677bbd4dbb81eeda39dc16f0eb> > Biden has classified documents scattered everywhere.Let us know when it gets to even half of the number of classified documents that Trump deliberately took with him when he left office.

    Trump had returned thousands of documents and his attorney's were
    negotiating with the archivists on the others. They were all
    secure.

    Trump's attorney signed a statement that claimed everything had been
    returned.

    There was no "negotiating".

    Trump's attorneys may have screwed up, but NOT Trump. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    So Trump's attorney's took those documents from the White House, did they?

    Waiting now for Moderate & Tommy to produce the video of Joe Biden slinging storage boxes.


    -hh

    And I am waiting for the Lyin' Asshole to explain how senile pervert Lyin' Biden
    got the top secret documents out of the Senate SCIF. >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    What is your evidence that any of what he had fell under "Top Secret -
    Sensitive Compartmentalized Information"?

    Well, Tommy didn't quite make that claim. He merely claimed removal of TS (not TS-SCI)
    material from a SCIF (SCI Facility). Problem with Tommy's claim is at least threefold:

    The first is the classification level that is being claimed: it has been broadly reported
    that Trump had documents up to TS & TS-SCI, but I've not noticed disclosures or
    photos (e.g. of cover pages) on just what Biden reportedly had, so Tommy appears
    to be making a false equivalency here: he needs to provide cites which clearly state
    *what* classification level(s) were reported. Strike one. >>>>>>>>>>>>
    The second is that Tommy's also claiming that documents were physically removed
    from a SCIF, presumably because he didn't get a pat-down or something when he
    walked out of a SCIF. Not only has this also not been documented, it also shows
    that Tommy is forgetting Hillary's spillage as an example as to how one can "walk out"
    without hardcopy papers. Strike two.

    Finally, Tommy is his ignorance as to just what a SCIF really is and their rules of operation.
    This is kind of surprising, since they didn't exist by name when he first started working
    for Battelle with his claims that he had a clearance. Currently, it is just not a hard & fast
    rule that controlled documents can only be accessedinside a SCIF. Likewise, it is wrong
    to imply that controlled comments can never be brought into or out of a SCIF (and
    Tommy forgot the 'courier' discussion already). The facts are that one can presently
    both use, and securely store, some levels of controlled documents outside of a SCIF,
    including in the likes of 'normal' office spaces without violating regulations (BTDT!).
    Strike three.

    -hh

    LOL! I noticed that you fucking libtards DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION!!

    Nope. What I did was to point out all of the holes in your claim that Biden walked out
    of a SCIF with docs that you need to substantiate before there's a question to be answered.

    Good luck!

    Hey Lyin' Asshole, it isn't up to me to substantiate shit - … >>>>>>>>
    Oh, so does that mean that you’re hereby rescinding all of your claims?
    Because you’ve not substantiated them, cupcake.

    ANYONE who held a security clearance, such as myself, understands that. Obviously, you haven't.

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance knows that it’s controlled
    documents come in different ratings, some of which are commonly associated
    with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common security inspection
    violations found on the handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held a security >>>>>>> clearance keeps equating "classified" with "top secret".
    :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every refresher training course, which in
    some institutions has been an annually recurring requirement for over a decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS classified, idiot. >>>> No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be kept in a SCIF.
    I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!
    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but which are >> not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Thu Feb 2 00:39:48 2023
    On 2023-02-01 22:55, Tommy wrote:

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance
    knows that it’s controlled documents come in
    different ratings, some of which are commonly
    associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common
    security inspection violations found on the
    handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held
    a security clearance keeps equating "classified" with
    "top secret". :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every
    refresher training course, which in some institutions
    has been an annually recurring requirement for over a
    decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS
    classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a
    SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be
    kept in a SCIF.
    I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!
    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but
    which are not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator
    were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?

    It's specific enough to show you're completely ignorant of the rules,
    Sunshine.

    This took literally SECONDS to find:

    'Although all classified documents can be viewed in a SCIF, it is not
    required that documents in the least restrictive classification
    categories be viewed in those facilities. The facilities are used
    typically for materials categorized as “top secret/sensitive
    compartmented information.”

    Classified documents below the top levels typically are stored, retained
    and viewed in classified spaces that are not SCIFs, said Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who works on national security cases. These
    classified spaces do not have the same security guidelines as SCIFs, he
    said, though they are more restrictive than normal workspaces.

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified
    information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists
    Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not
    required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.'

    <https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/scif-skiff-classified-documents-removal-biden-trump-pence/>

    'Fitzpatrick said, “Classified documents can never be taken out of a (sensitive compartmented information facility), ever.”

    This is exaggerated. SCIFs must be used when documents with the
    highest-level classifications have to be reviewed. But even the most
    highly classified documents can be taken out of a SCIF, as long as
    specific precautions are taken that ensure similar levels of security.

    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Feb 2 05:19:35 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 22:55, Tommy wrote:

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance >>>>>>>>>> knows that it’s controlled documents come in
    different ratings, some of which are commonly
    associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common
    security inspection violations found on the
    handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held
    a security clearance keeps equating "classified" with
    "top secret". :-)

    Despite how that is covered in detail in every
    refresher training course, which in some institutions
    has been an annually recurring requirement for over a
    decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS
    classified, idiot.

    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".
    You understand that, right?
    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a
    SCIF.
    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be
    kept in a SCIF.

    I don't need to, Sunshine.

    YES you do!

    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but
    which are not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator
    were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?

    It's specific enough to show you're completely ignorant of the rules, Sunshine.

    This took literally SECONDS to find:

    'Although all classified documents can be viewed in a SCIF, it is not required that documents in the least restrictive classification
    categories be viewed in those facilities. The facilities are used
    typically for materials categorized as “top secret/sensitive
    compartmented information.”

    Classified documents below the top levels typically are stored, retained
    and viewed in classified spaces that are not SCIFs, said Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who works on national security cases. These classified spaces do not have the same security guidelines as SCIFs, he said, though they are more restrictive than normal workspaces.

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists
    Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.'

    <https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/scif-skiff-classified-documents-removal-biden-trump-pence/>

    Thanks for finding a cite; Tommy had already been clued in that he was wrong.

    'Fitzpatrick said, “Classified documents can never be taken out of a (sensitive compartmented information facility), ever.”

    This is exaggerated. SCIFs must be used when documents with the highest-level classifications have to be reviewed. But even the most
    highly classified documents can be taken out of a SCIF, as long as
    specific precautions are taken that ensure similar levels of security.

    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.

    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.


    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Feb 2 21:43:03 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 22:55, Tommy wrote:

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance >>>>>>>>>> knows that it’s controlled documents come in
    different ratings, some of which are commonly
    associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common
    security inspection violations found on the
    handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held
    a security clearance keeps equating "classified" with
    "top secret". :-)

    Despite how that is covered in detail in every
    refresher training course, which in some institutions
    has been an annually recurring requirement for over a
    decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS
    classified, idiot.

    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".
    You understand that, right?
    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a
    SCIF.
    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be
    kept in a SCIF.

    I don't need to, Sunshine.

    YES you do!

    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but
    which are not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator
    were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?

    It's specific enough to show you're completely ignorant of the rules, Sunshine.

    This took literally SECONDS to find:

    'Although all classified documents can be viewed in a SCIF, it is not required that documents in the least restrictive classification
    categories be viewed in those facilities. The facilities are used typically for materials categorized as “top secret/sensitive compartmented information.”

    Classified documents below the top levels typically are stored, retained and viewed in classified spaces that are not SCIFs, said Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who works on national security cases. These classified spaces do not have the same security guidelines as SCIFs, he said, though they are more restrictive than normal workspaces.

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.'

    <https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/scif-skiff-classified-documents-removal-biden-trump-pence/>
    Thanks for finding a cite; Tommy had already been clued in that he was wrong.
    'Fitzpatrick said, “Classified documents can never be taken out of a (sensitive compartmented information facility), ever.”

    This is exaggerated. SCIFs must be used when documents with the highest-level classifications have to be reviewed. But even the most highly classified documents can be taken out of a SCIF, as long as specific precautions are taken that ensure similar levels of security.

    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.

    :-)
    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.


    -hh

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to Alan on Thu Feb 2 21:42:27 2023
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:39:52 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 22:55, Tommy wrote:

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance >>>>>>>>>> knows that it’s controlled documents come in
    different ratings, some of which are commonly
    associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common
    security inspection violations found on the
    handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held
    a security clearance keeps equating "classified" with
    "top secret". :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every
    refresher training course, which in some institutions
    has been an annually recurring requirement for over a
    decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS
    classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a
    SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be
    kept in a SCIF.
    I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!
    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but
    which are not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator
    were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?
    It's specific enough to show you're completely ignorant of the rules, Sunshine.

    This took literally SECONDS to find:

    'Although all classified documents can be viewed in a SCIF, it is not required that documents in the least restrictive classification
    categories be viewed in those facilities. The facilities are used
    typically for materials categorized as “top secret/sensitive
    compartmented information.”

    Classified documents below the top levels typically are stored, retained
    and viewed in classified spaces that are not SCIFs, said Bradley Moss, a Washington, D.C., lawyer who works on national security cases. These classified spaces do not have the same security guidelines as SCIFs, he said, though they are more restrictive than normal workspaces.

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists
    Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.'

    <https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/scif-skiff-classified-documents-removal-biden-trump-pence/>

    'Fitzpatrick said, “Classified documents can never be taken out of a (sensitive compartmented information facility), ever.”

    This is exaggerated. SCIFs must be used when documents with the highest-level classifications have to be reviewed. But even the most
    highly classified documents can be taken out of a SCIF, as long as
    specific precautions are taken that ensure similar levels of security.

    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.

    :-)

    So, Einstein, tell me: WHAT were the classification of the documents that they found on the MANY Lyin' Biden locations? I eagerly await your response.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Feb 3 01:23:13 2023
    On 2023-02-02 21:42, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 12:39:52 AM UTC-8, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-01 22:55, Tommy wrote:

    “ANYONE” who’s actually held a security clearance >>>>>>>>>>>> knows that it’s controlled documents come in
    different ratings, some of which are commonly
    associated with specific colors on their covers.

    And a quick Tommy quiz: what are two most common
    security inspection violations found on the
    handling of covers?

    It's interesting that someone who claims to have held
    a security clearance keeps equating "classified" with
    "top secret". :-)
    Despite how that is covered in detail in every
    refresher training course, which in some institutions
    has been an annually recurring requirement for over a
    decade.


    -hh

    More lies out of the Lyin' Asshole! Top Secret IS
    classified, idiot.
    No one was saying it isn't, Sunshine.

    But "classified" is not always "Top Secret".

    You understand that, right?

    Nor do all "Top Secret" documents need to be kept in a
    SCIF.

    You knew that, right?

    DUH! Explain to me, please, exactly WHAT documents must be
    kept in a SCIF.
    I don't need to, Sunshine.
    YES you do!
    No. I really don't.

    Yes or no only, please:

    Do you agree that there are documents that are classified, but
    which are not top secret?

    DUH!
    So you can't even play that straight, Sunshine?

    Yes or no:

    Do you agree that not all top secret documents must be in a SCIF?

    ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF. So, ANY classified
    documents that senile pervert Lyin' Biden acquired WHILE a senator
    were illegally possessed.

    Is that specific enough, Fool?
    It's specific enough to show you're completely ignorant of the rules,
    Sunshine.

    This took literally SECONDS to find:

    'Although all classified documents can be viewed in a SCIF, it is not
    required that documents in the least restrictive classification
    categories be viewed in those facilities. The facilities are used
    typically for materials categorized as “top secret/sensitive
    compartmented information.”

    Classified documents below the top levels typically are stored, retained
    and viewed in classified spaces that are not SCIFs, said Bradley Moss, a
    Washington, D.C., lawyer who works on national security cases. These
    classified spaces do not have the same security guidelines as SCIFs, he
    said, though they are more restrictive than normal workspaces.

    The only information that must be protected in a SCIF is classified
    information derived from intelligence sources and methods, said Steven
    Aftergood, former director of the Federation of American Scientists
    Project on Government Secrecy.

    So, there is a broad swath of “classified documents” that is not
    required to be brought to a SCIF in the first place.'

    <https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/scif-skiff-classified-documents-removal-biden-trump-pence/>

    'Fitzpatrick said, “Classified documents can never be taken out of a
    (sensitive compartmented information facility), ever.”

    This is exaggerated. SCIFs must be used when documents with the
    highest-level classifications have to be reviewed. But even the most
    highly classified documents can be taken out of a SCIF, as long as
    specific precautions are taken that ensure similar levels of security.

    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of
    classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.

    :-)

    So, Einstein, tell me: WHAT were the classification of the documents that they found on the MANY Lyin' Biden locations? I eagerly await your response.

    I don't know...

    ...and neither do you.

    But what I do know is that your explicit claim:

    "ALL classified documents MUST be viewed in a SCIF."

    ...is completely bullshit.

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Feb 3 08:40:33 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.
    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.


    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Feb 5 00:06:44 2023
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.
    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.
    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.


    -hh

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other places that he has
    forgotten about.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Tommy on Sun Feb 5 00:30:09 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.
    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.
    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.


    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?

    -hh

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  • From Tommy@21:1/5 to -hh on Thu Feb 9 22:56:29 2023
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of
    classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.
    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.
    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.


    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.
    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?

    -hh

    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to Tommy on Fri Feb 10 01:25:25 2023
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of >>>>>>> classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh.
    :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most >>>>>> common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.
    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.


    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.
    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?

    -hh

    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Fri Feb 10 03:39:03 2023
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:25:28 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of >>>>>>> classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh. >>>>>>> :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?


    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

    Particularly since the DoJ was *requested* to be present *just in case* anything was found.
    And as what was found was, as stated above, *zero* Classified marked documents.

    For Trump, neither Trump Tower in NYC, nor Bedminster, NJ have been thus searched. You feeling lucky?

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Feb 10 18:57:56 2023
    On 2023-02-10 18:35, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:39:05 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:25:28 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of >>>>>>>>>> classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh. >>>>>>>>>> :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?


    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

    Particularly since the DoJ was *requested* to be present *just in case* anything was found.
    And as what was found was, as stated above, *zero* Classified marked documents.

    For Trump, neither Trump Tower in NYC, nor Bedminster, NJ have been thus searched. You feeling lucky?


    In the meantime, it gets even more amazing over in Trump land: bunch of digital classified,
    purportedly transferred by USB thumb drive…on a non-Federal person.

    Because even the DoD locked out USB over a decade ago on both SIPR & non-SIPR hardware.

    This proof of spillage pretty much means every IT device in the entire organization needs to
    be checked/scanned, to a level higher than “but her emails!” because of what’s already been
    discovered on this vector.

    -hh

    And our Sunshine needs to stand with his "they must be classified pretty
    higly because the brought in the FBI"...

    ...in relation to the search of Mike Pence's home:

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/fbi-searching-mike-pences-home-classified-documents-rcna70112>

    'The adviser, Devin O'Malley, said "the Department of Justice completed
    a thorough and unrestricted search of five hours and removed one
    document with classified markings and six additional pages without such markings that were not discovered in the initial review by the vice president’s counsel.”'

    Didn't Tom make a big deal about how Biden's counsel weren't cleared for classified material, too?

    :-)

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to -hh on Fri Feb 10 18:35:50 2023
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:39:05 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:25:28 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>> ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of
    classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.'

    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh. >>>>>>> :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?


    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

    Particularly since the DoJ was *requested* to be present *just in case* anything was found.
    And as what was found was, as stated above, *zero* Classified marked documents.

    For Trump, neither Trump Tower in NYC, nor Bedminster, NJ have been thus searched. You feeling lucky?


    In the meantime, it gets even more amazing over in Trump land: bunch of digital classified,
    purportedly transferred by USB thumb drive…on a non-Federal person.

    Because even the DoD locked out USB over a decade ago on both SIPR & non-SIPR hardware.

    This proof of spillage pretty much means every IT device in the entire organization needs to
    be checked/scanned, to a level higher than “but her emails!” because of what’s already been
    discovered on this vector.

    -hh

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  • From -hh@21:1/5 to Alan on Sun Feb 12 19:20:08 2023
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 9:58:01 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-10 18:35, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:39:05 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:25:28 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>> ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of
    classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.' >>>>>>>>>>
    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh. >>>>>>>>>> :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?


    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

    Particularly since the DoJ was *requested* to be present *just in case* anything was found.
    And as what was found was, as stated above, *zero* Classified marked documents.

    For Trump, neither Trump Tower in NYC, nor Bedminster, NJ have been thus searched. You feeling lucky?


    In the meantime, it gets even more amazing over in Trump land: bunch of digital classified,
    purportedly transferred by USB thumb drive…on a non-Federal person.

    Because even the DoD locked out USB over a decade ago on both SIPR & non-SIPR hardware.

    This proof of spillage pretty much means every IT device in the entire organization needs to
    be checked/scanned, to a level higher than “but her emails!” because of what’s already been
    discovered on this vector.

    And our Sunshine needs to stand with his "they must be classified pretty higly because the brought in the FBI"...

    ...in relation to the search of Mike Pence's home:

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/fbi-searching-mike-pences-home-classified-documents-rcna70112>

    'The adviser, Devin O'Malley, said "the Department of Justice completed
    a thorough and unrestricted search of five hours and removed one
    document with classified markings and six additional pages without such markings that were not discovered in the initial review by the vice president’s counsel.”'

    Didn't Tom make a big deal about how Biden's counsel weren't cleared for classified material, too?

    :-)

    Next thing you know, we’ll learn that Trump’s classified USB laptop “aide” had
    spent time in Russia in July & August of 2019…

    …but that’s somehow not a smoking gun of espionage or of treason.

    -hh

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  • From Alan@21:1/5 to -hh on Sun Feb 12 21:08:14 2023
    On 2023-02-12 19:20, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 9:58:01 PM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-10 18:35, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 6:39:05 AM UTC-5, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 10, 2023 at 4:25:28 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-02-09 22:56, Tommy wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 12:30:11 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Sunday, February 5, 2023 at 3:06:46 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 8:40:35 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote:
    On Friday, February 3, 2023 at 12:43:05 AM UTC-5, Tommy wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 5:19:37 AM UTC-8, -hh wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Thursday, February 2, 2023 at 3:39:52 AM UTC-5, Alan wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> ...
    In addition, it’s not required that documents with lower levels of
    classifications be viewed in a SCIF in the first place.' >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Thanks, Sunshine!

    Showing you up for your ignorance is always good for a laugh. >>>>>>>>>>>> :-)

    Sounds like we'll also never hear Tommy try to guess what the two most
    common security inspection violations found on the handling of covers are.

    The same goes for you, Lyin' Asshole.

    Translation: cursing Tommy is finally starting to realize that even if he once did
    have a clue, he's now at least a decade out of touch.

    FWIW, the funniest part about some of this is that anyone who actually knows the regs
    saw an example of what invariably was probably one of these most common violations
    within the redacted FBI photo released of Trump's classified document haul.

    The bottom line with you libtards is that senile pervert Lyin' Biden's butt is in a sling and your
    pathetic diversionary tactics won't change that ...

    Diversionary? Nah: those who have professionally worked with Classified & controlled doc's
    know how easy spillage can occur -- its mostly the dishonest and loony loons who lack the real
    world experience who believe that its only like what they see in spy movies (pass the microfilm!).

    ... - the fucker took top secret classified documents home and who knows how many other
    places that he has forgotten about.

    And where has it ever been authoritatively published *what* the classification level allegedly was?
    FYI, the Rehoboth search found *zero* Classified marked documents. Want to try Bedminster next?


    It was classified enough to bring in the FBI.

    Circular argument, Sunshine.

    Particularly since the DoJ was *requested* to be present *just in case* anything was found.
    And as what was found was, as stated above, *zero* Classified marked documents.

    For Trump, neither Trump Tower in NYC, nor Bedminster, NJ have been thus searched. You feeling lucky?


    In the meantime, it gets even more amazing over in Trump land: bunch of digital classified,
    purportedly transferred by USB thumb drive…on a non-Federal person.

    Because even the DoD locked out USB over a decade ago on both SIPR & non-SIPR hardware.

    This proof of spillage pretty much means every IT device in the entire organization needs to
    be checked/scanned, to a level higher than “but her emails!” because of what’s already been
    discovered on this vector.

    And our Sunshine needs to stand with his "they must be classified pretty
    higly because the brought in the FBI"...

    ...in relation to the search of Mike Pence's home:

    <https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/fbi-searching-mike-pences-home-classified-documents-rcna70112>

    'The adviser, Devin O'Malley, said "the Department of Justice completed
    a thorough and unrestricted search of five hours and removed one
    document with classified markings and six additional pages without such
    markings that were not discovered in the initial review by the vice
    president’s counsel.”'

    Didn't Tom make a big deal about how Biden's counsel weren't cleared for
    classified material, too?

    :-)

    Next thing you know, we’ll learn that Trump’s classified USB laptop “aide” had
    spent time in Russia in July & August of 2019…

    …but that’s somehow not a smoking gun of espionage or of treason.

    -hh

    Just like the Republicans will find some reason that finding out that
    McGonigal of the FBI New York field office...

    ...where the leaks that led to Comey's announcement of addtional emails
    (that came to nothing) came from...

    ...and where the opinion that Trump wasn't involved with Russia came from...

    ...they're going to find some reason why his being paid by a Russian
    oligarch is no big deal!

    :-)

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