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Werner Pichler wrote:

On 09.09.2024 22:48, Silver Skull wrote:

Plus précisément; Vive les Nordiques !

<3

Ramenez les Nordiques à Québec tabarnak!

Didn't someone once say 'rec.sport.hockey' is THAT WAY->

:-)

BUT... Mr Bettman would say it's too small a market and we can
make more $$ elsewhere... so there!

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Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Werner Pichler wrote:

On 09.09.2024 22:48, Silver Skull wrote:

Plus précisément; Vive les Nordiques !

<3

Ramenez les Nordiques à Québec tabarnak!

Didn't someone once say 'rec.sport.hockey' is THAT WAY->

:-)

BUT... Mr Bettman would say it's too small a market and we can
make more $$ elsewhere... so there!

He wouldn’t actually say the above, he would say he
wants to ‘develop the game’!

Also, in the end Bettman is only doing what the
owners want him to do.

Ciao,
Werner

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On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:11:29 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Werner Pichler wrote:

Ramenez les Nordiques à Québec tabarnak!

Didn't someone once say 'rec.sport.hockey' is THAT WAY->


BUT... Mr Bettman would say it's too small a market and we can
make more $$ elsewhere... so there!

He wouldn’t actually say the above, he would say he
wants to ‘develop the game’!

Yes, develop the game, of course.

Also, in the end Bettman is only doing what the
owners want him to do.

I'm pretty sure Commissioner Bettman is in the "Let's bring the NHL to
the southern cities of the USA with a completely opposite climate to
cold Canada and where no one actually cares about hockey, but there are
TV markets that have no major live sport to show so think of the
potential $$" camp.

I can understand the team owners going along with that idea.

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On 2024-09-11 9:33 a.m., Silver Skull wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:11:29 +0000, Werner Pichler wrote:

Blueshirt <blueshirt@indigo.news> wrote:

Werner Pichler wrote:

Ramenez les Nordiques à Québec tabarnak!

We already cater enough to the Quebekers in this country.

Didn't someone once say 'rec.sport.hockey' is THAT WAY->


BUT... Mr Bettman would say it's too small a market and we can
make more $$ elsewhere... so there!

He wouldn’t actually say the above, he would say he
wants to ‘develop the game’!

Yes, develop the game, of course.

Also, in the end Bettman is only doing what the
owners want him to do.

I'm pretty sure Commissioner Bettman is in the "Let's bring the NHL to
the southern cities of the USA with a completely opposite climate to
cold Canada and where no one actually cares about hockey, but there are
TV markets that have no major live sport to show so think of the
potential $$" camp.

I can understand the team owners going along with that idea.

I dont remember the details, but the reason the Nordiques left for
Colorado was that they were not financially stable and had not been for
years, possibly even when they were WHA?
If you want a little small market team, I would rather see a team in
Halifax.

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I'm pretty sure Commissioner Bettman is in the "Let's bring the NHL to
the southern cities of the USA with a completely opposite climate to
cold Canada and where no one actually cares about hockey, but there are
TV markets that have no major live sport to show so think of the
potential $$" camp.

I can understand the team owners going along with that idea.

I dont remember the details, but the reason the Nordiques left for
Colorado was that they were not financially stable

My recollection is that they wanted a new arena and had no support for it.

and had not been for

years, possibly even when they were WHA?
If you want a little small market team, I would rather see a team in
Halifax.

Quebec city Census Metropolitan area is bigger than that of Winnipeg
though not by much. Halifax is considerably smaller.

But let's start with CPL teams in Quebec City, Kitchener-Waterloo,
Saskatoon and Edmonton, and forget about hockey. I am still outraged by
the subsidies going to finance a new arena for the Flames, whereas our
stupid provincial government has just pulled the plug on a very
necessary expansion of public transit (LRT green line)





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On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 17:31:19 +0000, MH wrote:

I'm pretty sure Commissioner Bettman is in the "Let's bring the NHL to
the southern cities of the USA with a completely opposite climate to
cold Canada and where no one actually cares about hockey, but there are
TV markets that have no major live sport to show so think of the
potential $$" camp.

I can understand the team owners going along with that idea.

I dont remember the details, but the reason the Nordiques left for
Colorado was that they were not financially stable

My recollection is that they wanted a new arena and had no support for
it.

And now we have the beautiful Centre Vidéotron with only a junior team
using it. But, NHL teams will honor us by coming up to play pre-season
games in our lovely arena. Aren't we lucky ?

Of course, we will have to turn out to watch the two LA Kings games in a
couple of weeks or they will say the market for hockey is too small in
Quebec. { Then the NHL will go and put an expansion team in Hamilton ! }

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On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:35:03 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:

they will say the market for hockey is too small in Quebec

{ Then the NHL will go and put an expansion team in Hamilton ! }

That was a joke by me of course.

More expansion is supposedly on the cards. I expect plenty of excuses
after the forthcoming NHL team owners meeting why Quebec are not in consideration for an expansion slot.

https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1836768357036568980?t=VUGdRrz_VzXeZTBjvqaZqA

Some might say more teams = more goals. The reality is more teams equals
more $ for the owners. Let nobody be fooled that it's about talent,
roster spots or goals.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5779942/2024/09/20/nhl-expansion-teams-scoring/

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On 2024-09-20 15:23, Silver Skull wrote:

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:35:03 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:

they will say the market for hockey is too small in Quebec

{ Then the NHL will go and put an expansion team in Hamilton ! }

That was a joke by me of course.

More expansion is supposedly on the cards. I expect plenty of excuses
after the forthcoming NHL team owners meeting why Quebec are not in consideration for an expansion slot.

https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1836768357036568980?t=VUGdRrz_VzXeZTBjvqaZqA

Some might say more teams = more goals. The reality is more teams equals
more $ for the owners. Let nobody be fooled that it's about talent,
roster spots or goals.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5779942/2024/09/20/nhl-expansion-teams-scoring/

Well it seems odd to me, given the status of the NHL as the 4th of the
so called big leagues (behind NFL, NBA and MLB by a considerable
distance) would actually want a league bigger than those sports. NFL has
32 teams. NBA 30, MLB 30.

And the NHL has already failed twice in Atlanta - why go there again?

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On Fri, 20 Sep 2024 22:49:55 +0000, MH wrote:

On 2024-09-20 15:23, Silver Skull wrote:

On Thu, 12 Sep 2024 19:35:03 +0000, Silver Skull wrote:

they will say the market for hockey is too small in Quebec

{ Then the NHL will go and put an expansion team in Hamilton ! }

That was a joke by me of course.

More expansion is supposedly on the cards. I expect plenty of excuses
after the forthcoming NHL team owners meeting why Quebec are not in
consideration for an expansion slot.

https://x.com/andystrickland/status/1836768357036568980?t=VUGdRrz_VzXeZTBjvqaZqA

Some might say more teams = more goals. The reality is more teams equals
more $ for the owners. Let nobody be fooled that it's about talent,
roster spots or goals.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5779942/2024/09/20/nhl-expansion-teams-scoring/

Well it seems odd to me, given the status of the NHL as the 4th of the
so called big leagues (behind NFL, NBA and MLB by a considerable
distance) would actually want a league bigger than those sports. NFL
has 32 teams. NBA 30, MLB 30.

If what is mentioned in the NY Times article materialises, i.e. a 36
team NHL, then I think it would be a combination of pure greed and
madness !

Commissioner Bettman seems to love the American south more than cold
Canada which means we all know that the next NHL expansion team is going
down there somewhere.

And the NHL has already failed twice in Atlanta - why go there again?

Go figure !

{ "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." }

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MH wrote:

On 2024-09-20 15:23, Silver Skull wrote:

Some might say more teams = more goals. The reality is more
teams equals more $ for the owners. Let nobody be fooled
that it's about talent, roster spots or goals.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5779942/2024/09/20/nhl-expansion-teams-scoring/

Well it seems odd to me, given the status of the NHL as the
4th of the so called big leagues (behind NFL, NBA and MLB by a
considerable distance) would actually want a league bigger
than those sports. NFL has 32 teams. NBA 30, MLB 30.

The term I keep reading about where the NHL is concerned is
"growing the market"... but the NHL doesn't seem to have any
bigger profile, in comparison the the other three major US
sports you mentioned, than it did twenty years ago. So what have
they been doing?

Apart from putting trackers in to the pucks and charging an
extortionate amount of money for crappy made Addidas jerseys
that fall apart when you wash them...

And the NHL has already failed twice in Atlanta - why go there
again?

If at first you don't succeed, try, try again...

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Werner Pichler wrote:

On 21.09.2024 16:14, Blueshirt wrote:

Apart from putting trackers in to the pucks and charging an
extortionate amount of money for crappy made Addidas jerseys
that fall apart when you wash them...

It's going to be all Fanatics jerseys from this season
onwards, and that's not a good thing.

Clearly!

https://preview.redd.it/fanatics-is-garbage-v0-kpq1pay7v6rd1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f296bcf1dc7935e480fded7868b84c7f3e47cefe



:-)

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On Fri, 27 Sep 2024 20:20:38 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:

Werner Pichler wrote:

It's going to be all Fanatics jerseys from this season
onwards, and that's not a good thing.

Clearly!

https://preview.redd.it/fanatics-is-garbage-v0-kpq1pay7v6rd1.jpeg?width=1080&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=f296bcf1dc7935e480fded7868b84c7f3e47cefe

No dimples, no purchase !

I liked the Adidas Authentic jerseys. Although CCM were the best quality jerseys. It seems to me that NHL jerseys have gone downhill since 2005.
Cheaper material with shoddier production quality, yet they cost a lot
more $.

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2024 22:56:15 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:

Silver Skull wrote:

No dimples, no purchase !

I liked the Adidas Authentic jerseys.

I never realised there were different 'levels' of hockey
jerseys. It turned out I had a cheaper Addidas version of a NYR
jersey, made in Indonesia... I've since learned there were/are
Canadian made versions which are - supposedly - better quality.
BUT at a much higher price... of course.

Everything made in Canada is of higher quality !

The MiC Fanatics Authentic Pro sweaters are made by SP Apparel in Quebec
with the MSRP being $500 CAD / $425 USD. Add a name / number or a "first
run" tag { quack quack } and you are talking about $600+ CAD / $500+
USD. These are the same sweaters as worn on the ice by the players
though. Or so they say. In theory they shouldn't fall apart in the
washing machine.

I would like to think that those ones would last more than nine
or ten washes though... but I'm not paying $300-$400 to find
out!

Hockey jersey collecting is a serious business for some around here.
These people will need to be putting in some serious overtime shifts to
collect the MiC Fanatics Authentic Pro ones this year !

Cheaper material with shoddier production quality,
yet they cost a lot more $.

Oh, you've seen a Nike football jersey then!

No i haven't. but i did hear about their Baseball jerseys.

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Silver Skull wrote:

The MiC Fanatics Authentic Pro sweaters are made by SP Apparel
in Quebec with the MSRP being $500 CAD / $425 USD. Add a name
/ number or a "first run" tag { quack quack } and you are
talking about $600+ CAD / $500+ USD. These are the same
sweaters as worn on the ice by the players though. Or so they
say. In theory they shouldn't fall apart in the washing
machine.

Five hundred dollars?!!!! <gulp> I like to watch a bit of hockey
but fucking hell, that's mad! Good luck to the NHL jersey
collectors with that.

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On Tue, 15 Oct 2024 12:47:31 +0000, Blueshirt wrote:

Silver Skull wrote:

The MiC Fanatics Authentic Pro sweaters are made by SP Apparel
in Quebec with the MSRP being $500 CAD / $425 USD. Add a name
/ number or a "first run" tag { quack quack } and you are
talking about $600+ CAD / $500+ USD. These are the same
sweaters as worn on the ice by the players though. Or so they
say. In theory they shouldn't fall apart in the washing
machine.

Five hundred dollars?!!!! <gulp> I like to watch a bit of hockey
but fucking hell, that's mad! Good luck to the NHL jersey
collectors with that.

I don't buy too many but i am waiting for the 4-Nations face-off jerseys
to go on sale. Of the four, in my unbiased opinion, Team Canada has the
best looking jersey.

https://media.bleacherreport.com/image/upload/x_0,y_731,w_1800,h_1195,c_crop/w_768,h_512,c_fill/w_800,h_533,c_fill/v1729785637/mgld5std7qdw8qok14df.jpg

I want !

--
Vive Les Nordiques!

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