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    From Greg Guarino@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 25 11:15:28 2022
    I making some cabinets and my wife wants movable shelves. I used pins and 1/4" holes once before, but these look like a nicer idea. Any thoughts?

    https://www.rockler.com/brass-shelf-standards-select-length?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping

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  • From hubops@ccanoemail.com@21:1/5 to gdguarino@gmail.com on Wed May 25 14:50:15 2022
    On Wed, 25 May 2022 11:15:28 -0700 (PDT), Greg Guarino
    <gdguarino@gmail.com> wrote:

    I making some cabinets and my wife wants movable shelves. I used pins and 1/4" holes once before, but these look like a nicer idea. Any thoughts?

    https://www.rockler.com/brass-shelf-standards-select-length?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping



    I see they also sell "walnut" coloured !
    .. the usual colours are zinc, white, gold,
    IMO if the colour can blend in < not clash >
    with the wood - good choice.
    Zinc always stands out & looks awful.
    John T.

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  • From Leon@21:1/5 to Greg Guarino on Thu May 26 08:57:25 2022
    On 5/25/2022 1:15 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
    I making some cabinets and my wife wants movable shelves. I used pins and 1/4" holes once before, but these look like a nicer idea. Any thoughts?

    https://www.rockler.com/brass-shelf-standards-select-length?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping


    I used those on one of my first projects about 40 years ago. I
    switched to pins and never looked back.

    What I do not like about the standards and clips.

    To look decent the standards should be flush with the surface of the
    inner surface, mounted in a groove. This also helps hold the standard
    in place. This can be as much trouble or more than simply drilling the
    holes.


    The big problem I have is that the clips that fit into the brackets have
    to be bent just right. If they are too tight they are difficult to
    insert into the standard. If they are too loose they fall out when you reposition the shelf.

    A proper fitting clip needs to be squeezed and pressed into place. That
    can be difficult in tight spots and may require pliers to ease
    insertion. If it just slips right in it is likely to fall out as you
    wiggle and jiggle the shelf into place.

    These do look a bit more finished but can be a RPIA to actually deal
    with if you plan on moving the shelving locations.

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  • From krw@notreal.com@21:1/5 to All on Thu May 26 10:56:41 2022
    On Thu, 26 May 2022 08:57:25 -0500, Leon <lcb11211@swbelldotnet>
    wrote:

    On 5/25/2022 1:15 PM, Greg Guarino wrote:
    I making some cabinets and my wife wants movable shelves. I used pins and 1/4" holes once before, but these look like a nicer idea. Any thoughts?

    https://www.rockler.com/brass-shelf-standards-select-length?country=US&sid=V91040&promo=shopping


    I used those on one of my first projects about 40 years ago. I
    switched to pins and never looked back.

    What I do not like about the standards and clips.

    To look decent the standards should be flush with the surface of the
    inner surface, mounted in a groove. This also helps hold the standard
    in place. This can be as much trouble or more than simply drilling the >holes.

    And the same vertical registration is still needed. Does that require
    a stopped dado (starting/stopping at some reference)? Does the dado
    extend beyond the casework top and/or bottom and the screws set the
    height. Pins only need to be referenced to some point on the box.

    The big problem I have is that the clips that fit into the brackets have
    to be bent just right. If they are too tight they are difficult to
    insert into the standard. If they are too loose they fall out when you >reposition the shelf.

    A proper fitting clip needs to be squeezed and pressed into place. That
    can be difficult in tight spots and may require pliers to ease
    insertion. If it just slips right in it is likely to fall out as you
    wiggle and jiggle the shelf into place.



    These do look a bit more finished but can be a RPIA to actually deal
    with if you plan on moving the shelving locations.

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