Point of pedantry: Dead Sea lowlands have *reduced* ultraviolet levels, due to its increased atmosphere, as compared to highland regions. The proof is snowbirds still get burned during vacationsthere.
Do you have any documentation which shows that normal ultraviolet levels are sufficient by themselves to kill trichninella cysts?Perhaps the dessication that happens with creating "meat chips" as you describe contributes.
Topic: Meat eating and human evolution from talk.originscure ultra-thin meat slices at streamside (sunnier there than under the forest canopy) long before fire was domesticated. Pygmies instead smoke chunks of meat, a faster process.
Sorry Jillery, I missed your post, pasted below with my response.
Q at SAP: Why do we find millions of stone tools yet almost no Homo fossils?
No mystery, Homo lived, died, decomposed and got recycled in forests, while their stone tools accumulated, mostly along waterways; large handaxes & choppers/cleavers/chisels better preserved than the thin flake tools.
Homo, being in nomadic terrestrial groups, moved their camps up and down a stream (Like pygmies they camped up to 50m from water's edge), then moved to the next stream, etc. If they had been sedentary, their middens would have accumulated.
Q: Was there a utility link between small sharp stone flakes used to slice meat and their domeshield portable shelters?
Pygmies slit the stems of large Ngongo broad-leaves and clothespin them to the wicker frame of their dome huts, in overlapping shingles fashion. Ancient Homo did the same with their portable domeshields, and used the same slit & pin method to hang and
How'd they hunt giant forest hogs?places the spear butt down and stands on it, the boar impales itself on the point during the charge.)
Killing a boar or sow required a strong sharp spear, the hunters stood behind shields next to trees. When charged they jabbed, and climbed 2' up the tree, safe since the boar couldn't raise it's head high, unlike a bull or stag. (In Borneo, a hunter
-nearby city at ca. +300 m): 1 2 3. Both UVA and UVB rays are lower, but UVB rays are attenuated the most."
UV & Dead Sea & pork prohibition
Jillery:
Point of pedantry: Dead Sea lowlands have *reduced* ultraviolet levels, due to its increased atmosphere, as compared to highland regions. The proof is snowbirds still get burned during vacationsthere.
Visitors always go to nearby cities above the basin (airports are there) and exposed to higher UV. UVB causes sunburn, UVA causes deeper skin aging.
I have also claimed that people who lived in the Dead Sea basin evolved skin with less melanin similar to those in NW Europe (cloudier due to Gulf stream) than people living where UV was full strength.
"After recently visiting the Dead Sea in Israel and not getting any skin burns, I was wondering about the reasons for that. Searching the literature, it seems that the UV radiation is indeed lower in the Dead Sea (ca. -400 m) compared to Beer Sheva (a
https://earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/2711/what-are-the-causes-of-lower-uv-radiation-at-lower-elevations#:~:text=Searching%20the%20literature%2C%20it%20seems,rays%20are%20attenuated%20the%20most.weaken a small host.) https://www.cabdirect.org/cabdirect/mobile/abstract/19432900562
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea
Do you have any documentation which shows that normal ultraviolet levels are sufficient by themselves to kill trichninella cysts?Perhaps the dessication that happens with creating "meat chips" as you describe contributes.
The motile larvae in muscle are killed by UV, most in 10 minutes, virtually all in 1-2 hours, if I'm reading this paper correctly, (note that the disease depends on the quantity of parasitical worms, a few do little damage to a large host, but may
The effect on the cysts? I don't know, but reading this "However, the use of (gamma) irradiation in meat was first approved for pork to control Trichinella spiralis in 1985 and then fresh and frozen poultry meat to control microorganisms in 1990" makesme think it is also highly effective against larval cysts.
I note that many tests done on various meats & parasites use meat slices of 3cm thick = +1", like a thick pork chop, which is *much* thicker than what I referred to as 'ultra-thin slices' such as done with prosciutto and serrano.include various animal and plant tissues (but no mollusc) which might support that.
In sum, I think that consistently thin slicing and wind-sun drying (perhaps after washing/salting when available) reduced infectious transmission of most meat parasites to a sustainable level long before fire & smoke were used regularly.
The 'kitchen tools' used to process meat and bulbous USO roots/rhysomes were the same as those used to construct shelters, a biface handaxe, some thin sharp stone flakes, clothespin leafstems, wicker. The residues found on some ancient stone tools
DD
My response: Before domesticated fire, they were using thin sharp flakes to cut ultra-thin slices of meat:-DDD
DD, you're becoming more & more ridiculous.
I don't read further.
My response: Before domesticated fire, they were using thin sharp flakes to cut ultra-thin slices of meat
Meat Eating is currently a political issue.
It's not science. It's not morality. It's politics. It's policy.
Well, "Meat Eating" isn't policy, taking meat away from the
worthless plebs (more like serfs) is the policy...
Here:
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.global-warming/c/D-hxhp2HgNw/m/nae9Up-fCAAJ
Native Americans followed the buffalo herds but didn't hunt then,
weren't eating the meat, they were harvesting the weeds that grew
in the wake of those herds... even if those weeds were largely
inedible.
This was actually reported. As science. As fact.
We all know humans are meat eaters. That, we went from eating
seafood to spreading inland, eating animals but, meat is too good
for "The Bottom" 80 to 99% of the people, so roll out the propaganda!
Drink milk? Well, according to the propaganda machine that makes
you a Nazi, a white supremacist:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/17/us/white-supremacists-science-dna.html
If you can't open the page, just do the Google on: Milk white supremacists
Cruise ships are destroying the oceans! But not the private yachts of the rich:
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yachts-be-exempt-eus-carbon-pricing-plan
IF YOU FLY ON A COMMERCIAL AIRLINER YOU'RE SATAN! But if you're rich and
tool around on private plane then you're okay:
https://www.argusmedia.com/en/news/2231434-eu-draft-exempts-private-jets-cargo-from-jet-fuel-tax
It's all bullshit. Pure propaganda.
There's no science anymore. There's only the 1% and everything else is the tool
of the 1%. It's just a means to an end.
And in the end they don't give a shit about you, me, where humanity came from or the record of our evolution. What they care about is more power, more wealth
and more control over you.
Why publish story after story after story claiming that ice raises water levels as
it melts?
https://groups.google.com/g/alt.atheism/c/6O3k8j0CkL0/m/L7jswwGlAQAJ
And don't just read my post, read the replies! Not one person admits that, yes,
it's all fake news, pseudo science. The closest to agreement is some troll hiding behind sock puppets, saying shit as stupid as the morons "Disagreeing."
There's no science. There's only obedience.
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