• Homo naledi or Australopithecus naledi?

    From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 24 06:52:46 2022
  • From JTEM is so reasonable@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Mon Oct 24 13:09:30 2022
    littor...@gmail.com wrote:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297007639_Homo_naledi_or_Australopithecus_naledi_Anthropocentric_Anthropology

    Definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely NOT "Homo" naledi.

    There was never ever any reason to suspect "Homo" naledi.

    The only question is: Australopithecus or Pan? Which is more correct?





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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 24 15:25:44 2022
    Op maandag 24 oktober 2022 om 22:09:31 UTC+2 schreef JTEM is so reasonable:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/297007639_Homo_naledi_or_Australopithecus_naledi_Anthropocentric_Anthropology

    Definitely, definitely, definitely, definitely NOT "Homo" naledi.

    Yes, that was indeed the conclusion.

    There was never ever any reason to suspect "Homo" naledi.
    The only question is: Australopithecus or Pan? Which is more correct?

    Both are:
    Australopithecus s.s. is a fossil subgenus of Pan:

    MORPHOLOGICAL DISTANCE BETWEEN AUSTRALOPITHECINE, HUMAN AND APE SKULLS Hum.Evol.11:35-41, 1996
    This paper attempts to quantify the morphological difference between fossil & living spp of hominoids. The comparison is based upon a balanced list of cranio-dental characters, corrected for size (Wood & Chamberlain 1986). Conclusions:
    - cranio-dentally, the australopithecine sppare a unique & rather uniform group, much nearer to the great apes than to humans;
    - overall, their skull & dentition do not resemble the human more than the chimpanzee’s do.

    AUSTRALOPITHECINES: ANCESTORS OF THE AFRICAN APES?
    Hum.Evol. 9:121-139, 1994
    Since australopithecines display humanlike traits (e.g. short ilia, rel.small front teeth, thick molar enamel), they are usu.assumed to be related to Homo rather than to Pan or Gorilla. However, this assumption is not supported by many other of their
    features.
    This paper briefly surveys the literature concerning cranio-dental comparisons of australopith spp with bonobos, common chimps, humans & gorillas, adult & immature.
    It will be argued, albeit on fragmentary data:
    - the large australopiths of E.Africa were in many instances anatomically & therefore possibly also evolutionarily nearer to Gorilla than to Pan or Homo,
    - the S.African australopiths nearer to Pan & Homo than to Gorilla.
    An example of a possible evolutionary tree is provided. ...

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