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  • You got nothing, you straw-baiting asshole

    From Claudius Denk@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Tue Apr 11 10:26:40 2023
    On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 9:04:16 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Bipedal wading is seen in e.g. Nasalis monkey in mangrove forests, they also climb sometimes arms overhead.
    India approached S-Asia c 30-20 Ma: island archipels, full of coastal forests:
    Catarrhini reaching these islands became wading bipedally + climbing arms overhead = aquarboreal Hominoidea.
    India underneath Asia c 20 Ma split hylobatids (E) & other=great apes (W) in coastal forests along N-Tethys Ocean.
    Mesopotamian Seaway closure c 15 Ma split pongids (E) & hominids (W): Medit.Sea + incipient Red Sea swamp forests.
    N-Rift fm, followed by Gorilla -> Afar -> Praeanthr.afarensis->boisei, today G.gorilla & beringei.
    6-5 Red Sea opens into Gulf (Francesca mansfiels casued by Zanclean mega-flood):
    -- Pan right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> S-Rift -> Transvaal -> Austr.africanus->robustus (// Gorilla) -> today Pan trogl. & paniscus.
    -- Homo left: S.Asian coasts -> Java early-Pleist. -> shallow-dving: pachy-osteo-sclerosis, DHA, brain+, tool use, shell engravings...
    mid->late-Pleist.: diving->wading->walking H.sapiens.
    Simple, no? https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
    IOW, only *incredible*idiots believe their Plio- or Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D
    kudu runner:
    Anecdotal nonsense.

    Every details is biologically correct,

    Meaningless.

    ] my little boy.
    Moreover, it fits remarkably well with plate tectonics: https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

    "Group selection"?? :-DDD
    You still live in the middle ages.
    Keep running after your kudus.

    You got nothing, you straw-baiting asshole.

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  • From littoral.homo@gmail.com@21:1/5 to All on Tue Apr 11 11:12:21 2023
    Bipedal wading is seen in e.g. Nasalis monkey in mangrove forests, they also climb sometimes arms overhead.
    India approached S-Asia c 30-20 Ma, which formed island archipels, full of coastal forests:
    Catarrhini reaching these islands became wading bipedally + climbing arms overhead = aquarboreal Hominoidea.
    India underneath Asia c 20 Ma split hylobatids (E) & other=great apes (W) in coastal forests along N-Tethys Ocean.
    The Mesopotamian Seaway closure c 15 Ma split pongids (E) & hominids (W):hominids in the Med.Sea.
    The hominids s.s. (Gorilla-Homo-Pan) colonized the swamp forests of the (then incipient) Red Sea.
    N-Rift fm, followed by Gorilla -> Afar -> Praeanthr.afarensis (Lucy etc.) ->boisei, today G.gorilla & beringei.
    6-5 Red Sea opens into Gulf (Francesca Mansfield thinks caused by Zanclean mega-flood):
    -- Pan right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> S-Rift -> Transvaal -> Austr.africanus->robustus (// Gorilla) -> today Pan trogl. & paniscus.
    -- Homo left: S.Asian coasts -> Java early-Pleist. -> shallow-dving: pachy-osteo-sclerosis, DHA, brain+, tool use, shell engravings...
    mid->late-Pleist.: diving->wading->walking H.sapiens. Simple, no? https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
    IOW, only *incredible*idiots believe their Plio- or Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D

    kudu runner:
    Anecdotal nonsense.

    :-D Every details is biologically correct,

    Meaningless.

    :-DDD Only for kudu runners. (Are *you* the most retarded of them all??)

    Moreover, it fits remarkably well with plate tectonics: https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

    "Group selection"?? :-DDD
    You still live in the middle ages. Never heard of DNA??
    Keep running after your kudus.

    You got nothing, you straw-baiting asshole.

    :-D Catch your kudu, my boy.

    Not unlikely the late-Miocene Red Sea hominids already used stone tools: for removing oysters from mangrove trees? + opening them?
    This explains early-Pleistocene Oldowan in Africa.
    But why did Homo (only early-Pleist.?) evolve from wading to shallow-diving?
    - POS, exclusively seen in shallow-diving tetrapods,
    - platycephaly, platymeria, platypelloidy,
    - longer & more horizontal femoral necks (lateral leg movements),
    - larger apertura nasalis (big nose),
    - more dorsal foramen magnum,
    - brain much larger (DHA in seafood),
    - island colonisations, Flores etc.,
    - shell engravings, google "Joordens, Munro",
    - better stone tools etc.
    Different populations of shellfish cf. Ice Ages??

    2013 Hum.Evol.28:237-266
    "The aquatic ape evolves:
    common misconceptions and unproven assumptions about the so-called Aquatic Ape Hypothesis"

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)
  • From Solving Tornadoes@21:1/5 to littor...@gmail.com on Tue Apr 11 11:30:16 2023
    On Tuesday, April 11, 2023 at 11:12:22 AM UTC-7, littor...@gmail.com wrote:
    Bipedal wading is seen in e.g. Nasalis monkey in mangrove forests, they also climb sometimes arms overhead.
    India approached S-Asia c 30-20 Ma, which formed island archipels, full of coastal forests:
    Catarrhini reaching these islands became wading bipedally + climbing arms overhead = aquarboreal Hominoidea.
    India underneath Asia c 20 Ma split hylobatids (E) & other=great apes (W) in coastal forests along N-Tethys Ocean.
    The Mesopotamian Seaway closure c 15 Ma split pongids (E) & hominids (W):hominids in the Med.Sea.
    The hominids s.s. (Gorilla-Homo-Pan) colonized the swamp forests of the (then incipient) Red Sea.
    N-Rift fm, followed by Gorilla -> Afar -> Praeanthr.afarensis (Lucy etc.) ->boisei, today G.gorilla & beringei.
    6-5 Red Sea opens into Gulf (Francesca Mansfield thinks caused by Zanclean mega-flood):
    -- Pan right: E.Afr.coastal forests -> S-Rift -> Transvaal -> Austr.africanus->robustus (// Gorilla) -> today Pan trogl. & paniscus.
    -- Homo left: S.Asian coasts -> Java early-Pleist. -> shallow-dving: pachy-osteo-sclerosis, DHA, brain+, tool use, shell engravings...
    mid->late-Pleist.: diving->wading->walking H.sapiens. Simple, no? https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/
    IOW, only *incredible*idiots believe their Plio- or Pleistocene ancestors ran after antelopes... :-D

    kudu runner:
    Anecdotal nonsense.
    :-D Every details is biologically correct,

    Meaningless.

    :-DDD Only for kudu runners. (Are *you* the most retarded of them all??)
    Moreover, it fits remarkably well with plate tectonics: https://www.gondwanatalks.com/l/the-waterside-hypothesis-wading-led-to-upright-walking-in-early-humans/

    "Group selection"?? :-DDD
    You still live in the middle ages. Never heard of DNA??
    Keep running after your kudus.

    You got nothing, you straw-baiting asshole.
    :-D Catch your kudu, my boy.

    Not unlikely the late-Miocene Red Sea hominids already used stone tools: for removing oysters from mangrove trees? + opening them?
    This explains early-Pleistocene Oldowan in Africa.
    But why did Homo (only early-Pleist.?) evolve from wading to shallow-diving? - POS, exclusively seen in shallow-diving tetrapods,
    - platycephaly, platymeria, platypelloidy,
    - longer & more horizontal femoral necks (lateral leg movements),
    - larger apertura nasalis (big nose),
    - more dorsal foramen magnum,
    - brain much larger (DHA in seafood),
    - island colonisations, Flores etc.,
    - shell engravings, google "Joordens, Munro",
    - better stone tools etc.
    Different populations of shellfish cf. Ice Ages??

    2013 Hum.Evol.28:237-266
    "The aquatic ape evolves:
    common misconceptions and unproven assumptions about the so-called Aquatic Ape Hypothesis"

    This is completely worthless anecdotal nonsense.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
    * Origin: fsxNet Usenet Gateway (21:1/5)