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  • Boycott Royal Caribbean Cruiselines

    From RichA@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 31 09:02:38 2022
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Aug 31 10:11:19 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 12:02:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Don't worry, help is on the way:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58061230

    Rock singer Miku Kobato could not be reached for comment: https://pm1.narvii.com/7031/4a63353b5130534e569ece46a77c388fac69eb2br1-563-528v2_uhq.jpg

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  • From W@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Aug 31 10:54:00 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 12:02:40 PM UTC-4, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Don't worry, help is on the way:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-58061230

    Rock singer Miku Kobato could not be reached for comment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kR-FPvYgPjM

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Wed Aug 31 13:10:57 2022
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Wed Aug 31 13:13:54 2022
    On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 15:11:01 UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    You are no amateur astronomer, why are you here?

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  • From StarDust@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Aug 31 15:25:27 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:02:40 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Passengers get bored 🥱 on cruise ships, that's why the need for fast !internet

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Wed Aug 31 17:02:44 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    Cruise ships have a CO2 footprint along with the planes that bring passengers to the port.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to RichA on Wed Aug 31 21:18:09 2022
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Huh? This sounds like a positive reason to patronize them.

    If I had that much money to throw around, and if the COVID-19 pandemic
    was history, that is.

    John Savard

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Thu Sep 1 06:58:50 2022
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 12:18:10 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 10:02:40 AM UTC-6, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Huh? This sounds like a positive reason to patronize them.

    If I had that much money to throw around, and if the COVID-19 pandemic
    was history, that is.

    I not convinced that there is enough deck space for all of the passengers on some of these larger ships. (Surface area to volume and all of that.) One might spend so much time indoors, that one might as well book a cruise on a submarine.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 07:50:18 2022
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    Cruise ships have a CO2 footprint along with the planes that bring passengers to the port.

    And someday we'll deal with that. But that part of the transportation
    sector is not our problem. We'll fix the CO2 problem eliminating CO2
    release in electricity production and in ground transportation. Those
    two are all we need to deal with immediately, and both are easily
    dealt with. The more difficult areas- air transportation and
    agriculture- can be addressed more slowly.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Sep 1 06:55:02 2022
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:50:22 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    Cruise ships have a CO2 footprint along with the planes that bring passengers to the port.
    And someday we'll deal with that. But that part of the transportation
    sector is not our problem. We'll fix the CO2 problem eliminating CO2
    release in electricity production and in ground transportation. Those
    two are all we need to deal with immediately, and both are easily
    dealt with. The more difficult areas- air transportation and
    agriculture- can be addressed more slowly.

    Except that they won't be "dealt with."

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Thu Sep 1 18:56:01 2022
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:50:22 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> >> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    Cruise ships have a CO2 footprint along with the planes that bring passengers to the port.
    And someday we'll deal with that. But that part of the transportation
    sector is not our problem. We'll fix the CO2 problem eliminating CO2
    release in electricity production and in ground transportation. Those
    two are all we need to deal with immediately, and both are easily
    dealt with. The more difficult areas- air transportation and
    agriculture- can be addressed more slowly.

    Except that they won't be "dealt with."

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.

    Doesn't happen. Can't happen. But the terminally stupid and dogmatic
    love the distractions of disinformation.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Thu Sep 1 19:00:43 2022
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 8:56:05 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 06:55:02 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 9:50:22 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote: >> On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 17:02:44 -0700 (PDT), W <wsne...@hotmail.com>
    wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 3:11:01 PM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Wed, 31 Aug 2022 09:02:38 -0700 (PDT), RichA <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Yeah, you do that.

    What an idiot!

    Cruise ships have a CO2 footprint along with the planes that bring passengers to the port.
    And someday we'll deal with that. But that part of the transportation
    sector is not our problem. We'll fix the CO2 problem eliminating CO2
    release in electricity production and in ground transportation. Those
    two are all we need to deal with immediately, and both are easily
    dealt with. The more difficult areas- air transportation and
    agriculture- can be addressed more slowly.

    Except that they won't be "dealt with."

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.
    Doesn't happen. Can't happen. But the terminally stupid and dogmatic
    love the distractions of disinformation.

    You are wrong again, you stupid ___.
    Try thinking.
    You have to put a stop to the most wasteful crap first, the stuff that the rich and arrogant do.
    The laws, regulations and taxes you wish to impose will only hurt and inconvenience the poor, who are already doing the least damage anyway.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 00:08:35 2022
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 7:55:04 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used
    up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.

    There certainly isn't!

    However, the rich people are already using their jets, limos, yachts, and cruise
    ships as much as they want. They won't use them _more_ because ordinary
    people have made it "possible" by climate sacrifices.

    Still, as long as rich people make extravagant use of energy, ordinary people won't be inclined to make serious sacrifices. So, even though they could make the difference - why do governments tax the middle class so much? Because
    there aren't that many rich people - this would have to be attended to.

    What I would want to do is first attend to ways we can save lots of carbon while people make _no_ sacrifices. Have people heat their homes with electricity instead of fossil fuels, and make electricity with hydro and nuclear
    instead of fossil fuels. And if wind, solar, and geothermal can play a role too, that's
    nice.

    Fueling cars with methanol would solve the limitations of battery technology if they aren't overcome in other ways. High-speed rail could displace air travel to
    some extent.

    Solutions exist. Collective action is needed because waiting for people individually
    to act voluntarily won't produce the amount of change that's needed. Of course, _nothing_ will, because we needed to nearly eliminate emissions years ago.

    John Savard

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Fri Sep 2 03:46:21 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:08:37 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 7:55:04 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used
    up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.
    There certainly isn't!

    However, the rich people are already using their jets, limos, yachts, and cruise
    ships as much as they want.

    No, you are wrong about that. You have not been keeping up with what is going on.

    I deleted out everything else you wrote, almost all of which is wrong too.

    If you wish me to blast your comments out of the water, please continue. Otherwise, be quiet.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 07:08:58 2022
    On Fri, 2 Sep 2022 03:46:21 -0700 (PDT), W <wsnell01@hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:08:37 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Thursday, September 1, 2022 at 7:55:04 AM UTC-6, W wrote:

    There isn't much point in giving up one's car and walking, if the fuel you save just gets used
    up in some rich person's jet, limo, yacht or cruise ship.
    There certainly isn't!

    However, the rich people are already using their jets, limos, yachts, and cruise
    ships as much as they want.

    No, you are wrong about that. You have not been keeping up with what is going on.

    I deleted out everything else you wrote, almost all of which is wrong too.

    If you wish me to blast your comments out of the water, please continue. Otherwise, be quiet.


    You need to take your own advice. But fools never do.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Chris L Peterson on Fri Sep 2 06:18:15 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 9:09:02 AM UTC-4, Chris L Peterson wrote:

    You need to take your own advice. But fools never do.

    You are certainly a prime example, with a few others here tied for second.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 2 16:52:43 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 4:46:22 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:08:37 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

    However, the rich people are already using their jets, limos, yachts, and cruise
    ships as much as they want.

    No, you are wrong about that. You have not been keeping up with what is going on.

    I wasn't counting the Russian oligarchs.

    John Savard

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  • From RichA@21:1/5 to StarDust on Fri Sep 2 17:40:31 2022
    On Wednesday, 31 August 2022 at 18:25:29 UTC-4, StarDust wrote:
    On Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:02:40 AM UTC-7, RichA wrote:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-62733593

    Passengers get bored 🥱 on cruise ships, that's why the need for fast !internet

    Nice to know their overweight, overage passengers will have fast internet. Makes it easier to communicate over the buffet table.

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  • From W@21:1/5 to Quadibloc on Fri Sep 2 17:41:17 2022
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 7:52:45 PM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 4:46:22 AM UTC-6, W wrote:
    On Friday, September 2, 2022 at 3:08:37 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:

    However, the rich people are already using their jets, limos, yachts, and cruise
    ships as much as they want.

    No, you are wrong about that. You have not been keeping up with what is going on.
    I wasn't counting the Russian oligarchs.

    Neither was I, you little POS.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/19/private-jet-use-is-more-popular-than-ever-and-first-time-buyers-are-driving-record-sales.html

    NOW, shut up, idiot.

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