• Re: The Earth is warming! Europe in draught!! Oh no, the Gulf Stream is

    From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 07:58:39 2024
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:42:18 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    What a difference a year makes in the schizo minds of global warmists.

    The Earth is warming, and the cause is completely understood, and that
    cause is human generated greenhouse gases. That is 100% certain, as
    close to a fact as anything can be.

    The Earth's climate is a very complex system, and we're still learning
    about how adding energy to that system manifests in the form of
    different parts of that system. But what we do know is that the
    consequences are not good for the Earth's broader ecosystems, and not
    good for humans.

    We increasingly understand where it will get hotter, where it will get
    cooler, where it will get wetter, where it will get drier. But even
    knowing that it's not easy to model the effects on everything.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 17:42:20 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 14:16:32 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday 11 February 2024 at 09:58:46 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:42:18 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    What a difference a year makes in the schizo minds of global warmists.
    The Earth is warming, and the cause is completely understood, and that
    cause is human generated greenhouse gases. That is 100% certain, as
    close to a fact as anything can be.

    The Earth's climate is a very complex system, and we're still learning
    about how adding energy to that system manifests in the form of
    different parts of that system. But what we do know is that the
    consequences are not good for the Earth's broader ecosystems, and not
    good for humans.

    We increasingly understand where it will get hotter, where it will get
    cooler, where it will get wetter, where it will get drier. But even
    knowing that it's not easy to model the effects on everything.

    Dry, wet, cold, warm. Spin that wheel!!!
    The phrase, "never say die" is taken to heart by the globalist warmers, no matter how
    clueless they are about the actual mechanics of short and long-term climate conditions.

    You're the only clueless one here. A true science denier. I guess you
    meet most of your friends at the Flat Earth Society meetings.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 21:52:56 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday 11 February 2024 at 09:58:46 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sat, 10 Feb 2024 18:42:18 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:
    What a difference a year makes in the schizo minds of global warmists.
    The Earth is warming, and the cause is completely understood, and that
    cause is human generated greenhouse gases. That is 100% certain, as
    close to a fact as anything can be.

    I saw an ex-Greenpeacer today show how CO2 levels were 20 times that at one point in the past.
    He basically said the panic over CO2 levels today is ridiculous as are all doomsday predictions that
    have been made in the past.

    In the distant past, in a world sitting in a very different climatic
    state than the current one.

    The problem isn't global warming. It is global warming occurring on a
    decadal scale, which is not something any ecosystem can adapt to.

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  • From Chris L Peterson@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 11 21:51:42 2024
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 16:40:09 -0800 (PST), Rich <rander3128@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    On Sunday 11 February 2024 at 06:55:57 UTC-5, Quadibloc wrote:
    On Saturday, February 10, 2024 at 7:42:19?PM UTC-7, Rich wrote:
    What a difference a year makes in the schizo minds of global warmists.
    Surely high levels of carbon dioxide emissions that will stress
    the world climate system are a bad idea even if you can't
    determine exactly _which_ kind of disaster will result from
    doing so?

    John Savard

    Are they? We have 7 billion people in the world (the elephant in the room avoided by globalist warmers
    because the growth is all in the Third World) and THAT is stressing food supplies. CO2 grows plants. The globalist
    warmers want us to give up meat, most of the arable land on Earth is already under cultivation and it takes a LOT
    more vegetable matter to feed humans than meat. The CO2 will come in handy.

    CO2 also stunts the growth of plants... especially most staple food
    crops. And heat and drought do so, as well. Meat uses more than ten
    times the land area and something like 50 times more water per calorie
    than plant-based food.

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  • From Quadibloc@21:1/5 to Rich on Tue Feb 13 12:05:23 2024
    On Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:45:21 -0800, Rich wrote:

    On Sunday 11 February 2024 at 23:53:01 UTC-5, Chris L Peterson wrote:
    On Sun, 11 Feb 2024 18:57:00 -0800 (PST), Rich <rande...@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    I saw an ex-Greenpeacer today show how CO2 levels were 20 times that at one >> >point in the past.
    He basically said the panic over CO2 levels today is ridiculous as are all >> >doomsday predictions that have been made in the past.

    In the distant past, in a world sitting in a very different climatic
    state than the current one.

    The problem isn't global warming. It is global warming occurring on a
    decadal scale, which is not something any ecosystem can adapt to.

    The fact life withstood massive quantities of CO2 (and whatever climate impact it had) kinds of puts that to a lie.

    Um, no.

    An ecosystem failing to adapt to climate change within a decade doesn't
    mean the area is scoured of all life, just that the mix of life in
    the area changes drastically.

    Enough that the people who live there go hungry.

    That is what makes it something that needs to be avoided.

    John Savard

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