SpaceX starship crashes https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
On Thursday, 20 April 2023 at 15:40:55 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-ro= >cket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
You are being too critical. It didn’t crash!
It was only a rapid unscheduled disassembly before stage separation.
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened LouI don’t this is a problem with maths. I would have thought that
<uk> wrote in
:
On Thursday, 20 April 2023 at 15:40:55 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-ro= >cket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
You are being too critical. It didn’t crash!OK :-)
It was only a rapid unscheduled disassembly before stage separation.
Wonder how long it wil take for the next test
As to mechanical oscilations, I think I remeber some writing that Von Braun had similar problems with the V2 ? an Apollo mission rocket.
He had some professor sort it out, lots of math involved.
On Friday, 21 April 2023 at 06:08:03 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT)) it happened LouI don’t this is a problem with maths. I would have thought that
<uk> wrote in
:OK :-)
On Thursday, 20 April 2023 at 15:40:55 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
SpaceX starship crashescket
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship= >-ro=
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
You are being too critical. It didn’t crash!
It was only a rapid unscheduled disassembly before stage separation.
Wonder how long it wil take for the next test
As to mechanical oscilations, I think I remeber some writing that Von Bra= >un
had similar problems with the V2 ? an Apollo mission rocket.
He had some professor sort it out, lots of math involved.
after so many years since the V2 we would have sorted the maths out.
I think SpaceX has reached the limit on size vs strength. It’s just=
too
big.
And to make it lightweight it loses tensile strength. I
This is a Hindenberg moment for launch vehicles.
Not that I don’t wish Them luck.
After all anything will
be better than the anti human Beijing run world govt
if they win the space race.
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Panteltje
<:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...More here: https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/
probably ripped it apart.
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landings happened relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment was positive for life?
NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created 4000 years or so ago,
Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in their face. http://www.gillevin.com/
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
The problem with NASA is that they say they found signs of life in some Martian meteorite, JUST before they needed new funding
then dismissed it after that.
Reduced to some astronuts doing acrobatics in zero gravity driving around the block so to speak, clowns!
Job creation program... They even admitted that on NASA TV.
We could have had nuclear propulsion and a few days trip to Mars long ago. Those projects were scrapped due to induced nuclear fear in the masses ...
Much like the US Military Industrial Complex burning people in wars it deliberately starts / provokes.
!
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan PanteltjeAnd by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
<:
More here:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landings happened
relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment was positive for life?
NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created 4000 years or so ago,
Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in their face. >> http://www.gillevin.com/
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-shanghai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bag
as Trump did?
On a sunny day (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lou <noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote inBut think about it Jan. (I’m not familiar with Dutch policy etc)
<568234d8-bb94-406f...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Panteltje >> <:And by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
More here:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starship-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landings happened
relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment was positive for life?
NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created 4000 years or so ago,
Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in their face.
http://www.gillevin.com/
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-shanghai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bagI dunno, other electric vehicles made in and by China are a big competitor to Tesla of course.
as Trump did?
I do believe in cooperation, it is the only way.
I had a business.
US sanctions because it is afraid of the competition is silly..
As is US blowing up the Russian gas pipeline to Europe to sell their own gas.
Would you do business with somebody who deliberately damaged your stuff?
No wonder US dollar is lower every day.
People just turn to more reliable partners and currencies.
That same US forbids ASML in the Netherlands to sell the latest chip technology to China,
US being afraid China makes better chips (it will eventually when everybody in the US has bought
climate change snake oil and is living in grass huts to be green).
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 18:26:49 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Loupositive for life?
<noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote in
<568234d8-bb94-406f...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Pantelt= >je
<:
More here:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starsh= >ip-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships= >-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landings h= >appened
relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment was=
I dunno, other electric vehicles made in and by China are a big competito= >r to Tesla of course.NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created 40= >00 years or so ago,And by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in their = >face.
http://www.gillevin.com/
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-shangh= >ai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bag
as Trump did?
I do believe in cooperation, it is the only way.
I had a business.
US sanctions because it is afraid of the competition is silly..
As is US blowing up the Russian gas pipeline to Europe to sell their own = >gas.
Would you do business with somebody who deliberately damaged your stuff?=
No wonder US dollar is lower every day.
People just turn to more reliable partners and currencies.
That same US forbids ASML in the Netherlands to sell the latest chip tech= >nology to China,
US being afraid China makes better chips (it will eventually when everybo= >dy in the US has bought
climate change snake oil and is living in grass huts to be green).
But think about it Jan. (I’m not familiar with Dutch policy etc) >Yes,...Maybe the US forbids ASML to sell their tech to China. OK not nice
for the owners of ASML who maybe aren’t as rich now as they hoped=
because it costs more to make chips in Holland because of high
wages,taxes etc.
But the upside is the chips are still made in Holland. Because if China
had its way,..ASML would have sold their chip tech to China and the chips=
would all now be made in China. And you wouldn’t be able to go out = >shopping
anymore in Holland because everyone would be unemployed ( everyone except= >for the owners of ASML who now live in style in Majorca anyways) and try
to kill you for our shoes as you went to buy a bag of carrots for 200,000 e= >uros.
Because the Chinese now had all the jobs and cash and could afford to buy >carrots .....and ....chicken! to go with their carrots!!!
Whereas you could only barely afford the carrots. And have to
eat them raw because you couldn’t afford to cook them either.
On a sunny day (Sun, 23 Apr 2023 04:36:35 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lou <noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote in
<374678ec-4a54-4bf2...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 18:26:49 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Louje
<noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote in
<568234d8-bb94-406f...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Pantelt=
-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/<:
More here:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-starsh= >ip-rocket
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starships=
positive for life?
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landings h= >appened
relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment was=
gas.I dunno, other electric vehicles made in and by China are a big competito= >r to Tesla of course.NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created 40= >00 years or so ago,And by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in their = >face.
http://www.gillevin.com/
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-shangh= >ai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bag
as Trump did?
I do believe in cooperation, it is the only way.
I had a business.
US sanctions because it is afraid of the competition is silly..
As is US blowing up the Russian gas pipeline to Europe to sell their own =
Would you do business with somebody who deliberately damaged your stuff?=
No wonder US dollar is lower every day.nology to China,
People just turn to more reliable partners and currencies.
That same US forbids ASML in the Netherlands to sell the latest chip tech=
US being afraid China makes better chips (it will eventually when everybo= >dy in the US has bought
climate change snake oil and is living in grass huts to be green).
But think about it Jan. (I’m not familiar with Dutch policy etc) >Yes,...Maybe the US forbids ASML to sell their tech to China. OK not nice >for the owners of ASML who maybe aren’t as rich now as they hoped=
because it costs more to make chips in Holland because of high
wages,taxes etc.
But the upside is the chips are still made in Holland. Because if China
had its way,..ASML would have sold their chip tech to China and the chips=
The chips using their technology are actually not made in Holland,
but in places like Taiwan IIRC, AND in the US!!
Conned again Jan.would all now be made in China. And you wouldn’t be able to go out = >shopping
anymore in Holland because everyone would be unemployed ( everyone except= >for the owners of ASML who now live in style in Majorca anyways) and try
to kill you for our shoes as you went to buy a bag of carrots for 200,000 e=
uros.
We have a lot of export products, chips is not a big part: https://tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/exports
Energy prices went up as much as 100 % in the last year due to the war in Ukraine and cutoff of Russian
gas due to US forcing the EU to sanction Russia.
Making EU its slave and destabilizing it (by getting their puppet Boris to leave the EU).
Because the Chinese now had all the jobs and cash and could afford to buy >carrots .....and ....chicken! to go with their carrots!!!We grow carrots, but personally I eat kiwis a lot from New Zealand...
Whereas you could only barely afford the carrots. And have to
eat them raw because you couldn’t afford to cook them either.
Was watching one of those survival series on DMAX (Astra 1 satellite) in German
just now, shows you how to survive in the wild...
Some people ejoy that so much they want to stay...
So, when WW3 starts, maybe what will be left from the US is just a bunch of black warlords
eating each other...
Some cities there are already into it if I understand the news right...
So no worries about food, plenty of human flesh available.
Survival on other worlds? I have heard the Intergalactic Travel Agency warns hem aliens
to avoid planet Earth as it is infested with humans, those are considered dangerous..
They keep some of our species in cages for other aliens to see, like we keep alligators and opossums in our zoos.
just FYI.
On Sunday, 23 April 2023 at 13:47:12 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sun, 23 Apr 2023 04:36:35 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lou
<noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote in
<374678ec-4a54-4bf2...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 18:26:49 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lou=
40=<noeltu...@live.co.uk> wrote inje
<568234d8-bb94-406f...@googlegroups.com>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Pant= >elt=
ip-rocket<:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-sta= >rsh=
-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/More here:
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starsh= >ips=
appened
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landing= >s h=
positive for life?relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment = >was=
NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created=
00 years or so ago,
face.Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in the= >ir =
ai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04http://www.gillevin.com/And by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-sha= >ngh=
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bag=
r to Tesla of course.as Trump did?I dunno, other electric vehicles made in and by China are a big compet= >ito=
gas.
I do believe in cooperation, it is the only way.
I had a business.
US sanctions because it is afraid of the competition is silly..
As is US blowing up the Russian gas pipeline to Europe to sell their o= >wn =
Would you do business with somebody who deliberately damaged your stuf= >f?=nology to China,
No wonder US dollar is lower every day.
People just turn to more reliable partners and currencies.
That same US forbids ASML in the Netherlands to sell the latest chip t= >ech=
US being afraid China makes better chips (it will eventually when ever= >ybo=dy in the US has bought
climate change snake oil and is living in grass huts to be green).
But think about it Jan. (I’m not familiar with Dutch policy etc)=
d=Yes,...Maybe the US forbids ASML to sell their tech to China. OK not nic= >e
for the owners of ASML who maybe aren’t as rich now as they hope=
ut =
because it costs more to make chips in Holland because of high
wages,taxes etc.
But the upside is the chips are still made in Holland. Because if China
had its way,..ASML would have sold their chip tech to China and the chip= >s=
The chips using their technology are actually not made in Holland,
but in places like Taiwan IIRC, AND in the US!!
would all now be made in China. And you wouldn’t be able to go o=
Ukraine and cutoff of Russianshopping
anymore in Holland because everyone would be unemployed ( everyone excep= >t=
for the owners of ASML who now live in style in Majorca anyways) and try
to kill you for our shoes as you went to buy a bag of carrots for 200,00= >0 e=
uros.
We have a lot of export products, chips is not a big part:
https://tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/exports
Energy prices went up as much as 100 % in the last year due to the war in=
gas due to US forcing the EU to sanction Russia.Conned again Jan.
Here’s what actually happened...
Right wing free market capitalists based in Holland ,UK along with Russian = >oligarchs
etc,..(who donate cash to right wing parties like Macron,brit Tories and Du= >tch BBB)
speculated on gas prices when they realised they could make big £$€.
And artificially escalated the price of gas to make themselves as
much cash as possible. Thanks to their poodle politicians in the various >right wing EU political parties.
Proof of this is that the price of energy is, it didn’t go up unive= >rsally.
It went up by whatever these right wing scum could get away
with in their respective countries.
And notice in the UK, possibly the most corrupt right
wing kleptocracy in Europes history, the price went up not
by 100% but...by 300%!
Even though in fact UK was *far* less dependent on Russian gas
than Holland.
On a sunny day (Sun, 23 Apr 2023 06:30:02 -0700 (PDT)) it happened LouYou should try west coast Canada. Lots of alt communities on some of
< wrote in
<e181a488-720>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 18:26:49 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Sat, 22 Apr 2023 07:21:01 -0700 (PDT)) it happened Lou=
ips=<noeltuk> wrote inje
<568234d8-bb94>:
On Saturday, 22 April 2023 at 08:44:53 UTC+1, Jan Panteltje wrote:
On a sunny day (Thu, 20 Apr 2023 14:40:52 GMT) it happened Jan Pant= >elt=
ip-rocket<:
SpaceX starship crashes
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/04/20/science/spacex-launch-sta= >rsh=
More here:
Looks like it starts oscillating, longitudal vibrations...
probably ripped it apart.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2023/04/so-what-was-that-was-starsh=
was=-launch-a-failure-or-a-success/
appened
For me, I was working at the local TV station when the moon landing= >s h=
relaying it to the people here.
So Mars will impress me, moon not so much ...
And even then, when / if US lands on Mars and finds signs of life
will it simply deny it as it did when the Viking lander experiment =
40=positive for life?
NASA partly payed for by republicans that believe earth was created=
ngh=00 years or so ago,
face.Adam and Eve, will deny extraterrestrial life if it bit them in the= >ir =
http://www.gillevin.com/And by the looks of it Elon Musk is helping pay for China
All hope for finding life on Mars is on China now :-)
to get there first.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-build-sha=
ai-gigafactory-make-energy-storage-product-xinhua-2023-04
-09/
I wonder if Musk got as much cash from Beijing in his brown paper bag=
wn =r to Tesla of course.as Trump did?I dunno, other electric vehicles made in and by China are a big compet= >ito=
I do believe in cooperation, it is the only way.
I had a business.
US sanctions because it is afraid of the competition is silly..
As is US blowing up the Russian gas pipeline to Europe to sell their o=
ech=gas.
Would you do business with somebody who deliberately damaged your stuf= >f?=
No wonder US dollar is lower every day.
People just turn to more reliable partners and currencies.
That same US forbids ASML in the Netherlands to sell the latest chip t=
nology to China,
US being afraid China makes better chips (it will eventually when ever= >ybo=dy in the US has bought
climate change snake oil and is living in grass huts to be green).
But think about it Jan. (I’m not familiar with Dutch policy etc)=
eYes,...Maybe the US forbids ASML to sell their tech to China. OK not nic=
d=for the owners of ASML who maybe aren’t as rich now as they hope=
ut =
because it costs more to make chips in Holland because of high
wages,taxes etc.
But the upside is the chips are still made in Holland. Because if China >> >had its way,..ASML would have sold their chip tech to China and the chip= >s=
The chips using their technology are actually not made in Holland,
but in places like Taiwan IIRC, AND in the US!!
would all now be made in China. And you wouldn’t be able to go o=
Ukraine and cutoff of Russianshopping
anymore in Holland because everyone would be unemployed ( everyone excep= >t=
for the owners of ASML who now live in style in Majorca anyways) and try >> >to kill you for our shoes as you went to buy a bag of carrots for 200,00= >0 e=
uros.
We have a lot of export products, chips is not a big part:
https://tradingeconomics.com/netherlands/exports
Energy prices went up as much as 100 % in the last year due to the war in=
gas due to US forcing the EU to sanction Russia.Conned again Jan.
Here’s what actually happened...
Right wing free market capitalists based in Holland ,UK along with Russian =
oligarchs
etc,..(who donate cash to right wing parties like Macron,brit Tories and Du=
tch BBB)
Well all the BBB votes was sort of a revolt of the people against the current ruler /
ruling parties who want to oust all farmers it seems as those 'cause 'CO2'. We need the farmers and farms for our food...
So BBB now has (since a few month) a lot of control and is negotiating to make life better for farmers, and hopefully keep farms here.
Silly EU CO2 rules make it very difficult in this very dense populated country to do much,
they cannot even build homes as 'building causes CO2' while we need many more homes
as we are flooded by thousands of refugees, many extra from Ukraine these days..
Climate insanity! climate change is caused by earth orbit variations and sun activity changes:
http://old.world-mysteries.com/alignments/mpl_al3b.htm
But selling snake oil solutions, like heat pumps and basically taxing the weather
is a tool current clueless rulers use to tax and destroy the population and infra structure.
EU now wants to outlaw all combustion engines by 2030 (exception for hydrogen and similar powered ones)
while the electricity net is already overloaded now.
And with all electric: if anything happens (and it will) NOTHING will run, no emergency services either.
My idea is to send all green idiots to a re-education camp.
We need DIVERSITY in energy generation systems to cope with climate (and weather) changes.
But the greenish idiots are against anything, from coal to nuclear!
Wind does not always blow and sun does not always shine, and we have no means to store that much energy for large periods.
Anyways, in the Netherlands they now will build 2 more nuclear power plants, but Germany has now killed the last one they had.
Fear for nuclear.
I have worked with nuclear and lost the fear for it, did not die from the Chernobyl fallout here
you were warned not to eat food from your garden etc,, all contaminated... The airco filters where I worked had to be replaced as those were 'hot', so you were breathing the stuff 24 / 7 when outside or at home!
So I did some experiments, build a Geiger counter and gamma spectrometer, etc, and monitor and log radiation 24/7 :
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speculated on gas prices when they realised they could make big £$€. >And artificially escalated the price of gas to make themselves asOur government has set a maximum price on gas (for heating) for households so people are protected at least for now.
much cash as possible. Thanks to their poodle politicians in the various >right wing EU political parties.
Proof of this is that the price of energy is, it didn’t go up unive= >rsally.
It went up by whatever these right wing scum could get away
with in their respective countries.
I bought some big flexible solar panels I can lay out in the garden or put on a boat and sail away to some uninhabited island
and use my survival skills..
Been all over the world with little money :-)
Probably know the US better than many Hillbillies.
But has been long time ago, but even in these days police there was trigger happy, gangs, the works.
These days with all the mass-shootings in the US not sure it should be on my list for a safe place to go.
Weapon sales are way up there...
And notice in the UK, possibly the most corrupt rightWe had natural gas from the Groningen area here, but drilling for it it caused earthquakes
wing kleptocracy in Europes history, the price went up not
by 100% but...by 300%!
Even though in fact UK was *far* less dependent on Russian gas
than Holland.
and the government is now negotiating with the owners of all the damaged houses for compensation
payments.
So we have no longer our own gas ...
You should try west coast Canada. Lots of alt communities on some of
the islands in and around Vancouver island. Safer than united states ,with = >some of
them into self sufficient living off the land etc.
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