• SAROS CYCLE: PTOLEMY MODEL | Amazing maths and experiments | Eclipses d

    From Saros Cycle@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 04:31:33 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur

    The Ptolemaic model is correct and proves a perfect symmetry to all the
    orbits of the planets that is clearly not random.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

    NASA has /never/ used the heliocentric model to predict eclipses. NASA
    uses the ancient Babylonian Saros Cycle and Ptolemaic geocentric model
    to predict eclipses. NASA even admits that it is impossible to predict
    eclipses using the heliocentric globe model. In other words, the
    heliocentric model does not reflect reality while the ancient Ptolemaic
    and Saros Cycle models /do/ reflect reality.

    This video is the most scientific astronomy video ever created. If you
    think you know astronomy based on the heliocentric model, then this
    video will prove your woefully ignorant of real astronomy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

    Repeat: The Ptolemaic model proves that the universe has perfect
    symmetry that indicates a clear DESIGN that you can see with your own
    eyes. It is painfully clear that the movements of celestial bodies
    follow a consistent, unwavering geometric pattern that is impossible to
    have occurred randomly. The retrograde motions of the planets all
    correlate with each other precisely to the microsecond for thousands of
    years, forming a repeating pattern that never varies in the slightest.

    Eclipses prove the modern globe earth model is totally wrong. NASA and
    other sources are intentionally lying to you about cosmology.

    See some real science and maths in action instead of fake NASA CGI.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

    The expected baseless suppositions, name-calling and character
    assassination by self-inflated retards will be summarily ignored. We are
    real scientists. We do experiments and mathematics rather than
    regurgitating unproven theories given by authority figures.

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  • From Martin Brown@21:1/5 to Saros Cycle on Sat Sep 9 13:26:00 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur

    On 09/09/2023 10:31, Saros Cycle wrote:
    The Ptolemaic model is correct and proves a perfect symmetry to all the orbits of the planets that is clearly not random.

    You are even more deranged than Kelleher.

    All of the accurate eclipse predictions are based on the heliocentric
    model and have been ever since Ferdinand Verbiest (a Flanders Jesuit
    monk in China used the heretical book containing Rudolphine tables to
    defeat the lazy Chinese astronomers at their own game).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolphine_Tables

    His life in China is quite fascinating and sheds a lot of light on
    medieval manufacturing techniques since the Chinese documented and made
    wood block prints of how he did various things (including cannon
    boring). The odd cannon has turned up in the Far East with "Verbeist
    fecit" on it! Many of the prints survive and some wood blocks too.

    He had a bit of a rocky start initially and very nearly ended up dead!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Verbiest

    We know a great deal about building a precision medieval observatory
    from the wood block prints of his exploits. He rebuilt the Beijing
    observatory and also it is said made the emperor a steam driven toy car!

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Verbiest#Verbiest's_'car'

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    Martin Brown

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  • From Bob Campbell@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 18:05:03 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur

    Saros Cycle <18@11.8> wrote:

    A bunch of nonsense. The only thing here that is flat is your brain.

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  • From Saros Cycle@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 17:39:33 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur

    On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 13:26:00 +0100
    Martin Brown <'''newspam'''@nonad.co.uk> wrote:

    The video they want to distract from is the point of this thread ->
    original video link -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

    The subject of the thread is the linked video, not your non-sequitur
    rabbit trails which you provided for distraction and misdirection.

    Below is explained the tactics being used to misdirect the discussion.

    On 09/09/2023 10:31, Saros Cycle wrote:
    The Ptolemaic model is correct and proves a perfect symmetry to all
    the orbits of the planets that is clearly not random.

    You are even more deranged than Kelleher.

    Original thread anticipated this kind of baseless response ->

    "The expected baseless suppositions, name-calling and character
    assassination by self-inflated retards will be summarily ignored."

    All of the accurate eclipse predictions are based on the heliocentric
    model and have been ever since Ferdinand Verbiest (a Flanders Jesuit
    monk in China used the heretical book containing Rudolphine tables
    to defeat the lazy Chinese astronomers at their own game).

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolphine_Tables

    Rubbish and lies. All eclipse predictions are based upon ancient Saros
    Cycle and this is even admitted by NASA, with sources in the video that
    you are trying to distract from with your clown-world crapbabble.

    His life in China is quite fascinating and sheds a lot of light on
    medieval manufacturing techniques since the Chinese documented and
    made wood block prints of how he did various things (including cannon boring). The odd cannon has turned up in the Far East with "Verbeist
    fecit" on it! Many of the prints survive and some wood blocks too.

    This is all non-sequitur misdirection and distraction to prevent people
    from watching the original video and the many scientific experiments
    performed in the video. Wikipedia is not science, retard. Wikipedia is
    a repository of political demagoguery run by intelligence spooks. A
    review of any Wikipedia :talk: page for sensitive entries proves this.

    Science is observe, reproduce, repeat. Everything else is religion. The
    linked video demonstrates scientific experiments using the scientific
    method. Your misdirection links are provided to distract from viewing
    actual science being done.

    He had a bit of a rocky start initially and very nearly ended up dead!

    Non-sequitur distraction information.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Verbiest

    We know a great deal about building a precision medieval observatory
    from the wood block prints of his exploits. He rebuilt the Beijing observatory and also it is said made the emperor a steam driven toy
    car!

    Non-sequitur distraction information.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Verbiest#Verbiest's_'car'

    This is not scientific method. It is religion.

    You are not a scientist. You are a cultist.

    Your opinion is worthless. You are nothing and you have worms for
    brains. You have not conducted any scientific experiments to verify any
    of the disinformation and religious garbage that you post under banner
    of 'science'. You don't do science at all. You only regurgitate
    propaganda from your priests.

    Your post is non-sequitur disinformation. Your response is designed to
    distract from the points made in the original post and the linked video evidence. The intent is to get other readers lost in your erroneous and irrelevant details rather than considering and digesting the original
    subject matter.

    You are counting on the audience having a short attention span so they
    get lost in the irrelevant name-calling and pointless details you
    propose. Here is an example ->

    "Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING' - Although it is difficult or impossible
    to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the
    forum reading unrelated and non-issue items."

    from -> https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

    After reading the character assasination, misdirection, distraction, and disinformation techniques being used in these newsgroups, the careful
    reader should go back to the original post in this thread and watch the
    linked video to see what the disinformation artists don't want you to
    know. They offer unprovable and unfalsifiable assumptions, dicta, and
    circular reasonings to keep your mind busy with their fake science.

    The reader should have courage to investigate and experiment. Taking
    the word of 'authorities' on a matter is religion, not science. The
    science, actual scientific data and observation, proves that the
    heliocentric globe earth model is not reality and is disproven by
    actual reality.

    SAROS CYCLE: PTOLEMY MODEL | Amazing maths and experiments | Eclipses disprove the globe earth model ->

    original video link -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

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  • From Saros Cycle@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 9 17:30:17 2023
    XPost: alt.astronomy, sci.astro.amateur

    On Sat, 9 Sep 2023 08:22:46 -0700 (PDT)
    Kym Horsell <kymhorsell@gmail.com> wrote:

    The video they want to distract from is the point of this thread ->
    original video link -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

    Below is explained the tactics being used to misdirect the discussion.

    Again, not really necessary to know how
    gravity works. Just that it works. :)

    You and your cult can't explain what 'grabbity' is or even how it
    works, yet demand blind obedience to the doctrine, or else you will
    call them 'cranks' or 'insane' which is just your choice of words for
    'heretic' or 'apostate' or 'infidel'.

    This is not scientific method. It is religion.

    You are not a scientist. You are a cultist.

    Your opinion is worthless. You are nothing and you have worms for
    brains. You have not conducted any scientific experiments to verify any
    of the disinformation and religious garbage that you post under banner
    of 'science'. You don't do science at all. You only regurgitate
    propaganda from your priests.

    Your post is non-sequitur disinformation. Your response is designed to
    distract from the points made in the original post and the linked video evidence. The intent is to get other readers lost in your erroneous and irrelevant details rather than considering and digesting the original
    subject matter.

    You are counting on the audience having a short attention span so they
    get lost in the irrelevant name-calling and pointless details you
    propose. Here is an example ->

    "Technique #1 - 'FORUM SLIDING' - Although it is difficult or impossible
    to censor the posting it is now lost in a sea of unrelated and unuseful postings. By this means it becomes effective to keep the readers of the
    forum reading unrelated and non-issue items."

    from -> https://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm

    After reading the character assasination, misdirection, distraction, and disinformation techniques being used in these newsgroups, the careful
    reader should go back to the original post in this thread and watch the
    linked video to see what the disinformation artists don't want you to
    know. They offer unprovable and unfalsifiable assumptions, dicta, and
    circular reasonings to keep your mind busy with their fake science.

    The reader should have courage to investigate and experiment. Taking
    the word of 'authorities' on a matter is religion, not science. The
    science, actual scientific data and observation, proves that the
    heliocentric globe earth model is not reality and is disproven by
    actual reality.

    SAROS CYCLE: PTOLEMY MODEL | Amazing maths and experiments | Eclipses disprove the globe earth model ->

    original video link -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UchoDFzuto

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