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  • New Mongolian alvarezsaurid found in curled position

    From Sight Reader@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 21 22:53:57 2023
    Probably not an earth-shattering discovery, but this new species is found in a curled position that supposedly matches those of sleeping birds.

    I can’t find any link tying the pop science report to any sort of journal entry.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/17/japan/history/new-dinosaur-discovered-mongolia/?fbclid=iwar0iwx3lufxdqvtujxliiuykg4pwqfsbavsc6t9h0rc2dj_cwcdqgqcti-c

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to Sight Reader on Wed Nov 22 06:17:29 2023
    On 11/21/23 10:53 PM, Sight Reader wrote:
    Probably not an earth-shattering discovery, but this new species is found in a curled position that supposedly matches those of sleeping birds.

    I can’t find any link tying the pop science report to any sort of journal entry.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/17/japan/history/new-dinosaur-discovered-mongolia/?fbclid=iwar0iwx3lufxdqvtujxliiuykg4pwqfsbavsc6t9h0rc2dj_cwcdqgqcti-c


    Here's the original:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0293801

    You can judge for yourself whether this is a typical avian sleeping
    position, which is on the stomach with the head resting on the back.
    This seems as much mammalian as anything, just curled up head to tail.

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  • From erik simpson@21:1/5 to John Harshman on Wed Nov 22 08:35:52 2023
    On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 6:17:41 AM UTC-8, John Harshman wrote:
    On 11/21/23 10:53 PM, Sight Reader wrote:
    Probably not an earth-shattering discovery, but this new species is found in a curled position that supposedly matches those of sleeping birds.

    I can’t find any link tying the pop science report to any sort of journal entry.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/17/japan/history/new-dinosaur-discovered-mongolia/?fbclid=iwar0iwx3lufxdqvtujxliiuykg4pwqfsbavsc6t9h0rc2dj_cwcdqgqcti-c
    Here's the original:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0293801

    You can judge for yourself whether this is a typical avian sleeping position, which is on the stomach with the head resting on the back.
    This seems as much mammalian as anything, just curled up head to tail.
    Being weak on anatomy, I have a hard time seeing what kind of "curled up" sleeping position is exhibited here.

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  • From John Harshman@21:1/5 to erik simpson on Wed Nov 22 11:17:39 2023
    On 11/22/23 8:35 AM, erik simpson wrote:
    On Wednesday, November 22, 2023 at 6:17:41 AM UTC-8, John Harshman wrote:
    On 11/21/23 10:53 PM, Sight Reader wrote:
    Probably not an earth-shattering discovery, but this new species is found in a curled position that supposedly matches those of sleeping birds.

    I can’t find any link tying the pop science report to any sort of journal entry.

    https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/11/17/japan/history/new-dinosaur-discovered-mongolia/?fbclid=iwar0iwx3lufxdqvtujxliiuykg4pwqfsbavsc6t9h0rc2dj_cwcdqgqcti-c
    Here's the original:

    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0293801

    You can judge for yourself whether this is a typical avian sleeping
    position, which is on the stomach with the head resting on the back.
    This seems as much mammalian as anything, just curled up head to tail.
    Being weak on anatomy, I have a hard time seeing what kind of "curled up" sleeping position is exhibited here.

    Well, the head is turned to face backwards, and the cervical vertebrae,
    to the extent they are preserved in anything resembling a life position,
    match that. The tail is curved in more or less the same way, though I
    wonder even more whether that would match any sort of life position.
    Then again, this is harder to tell from photos than from examination of
    the actual specimen, so I suppose we have to give the authors some
    credit. They say "This posture is identical to the ‘tuck-in’ sleeping posture seen in troodontids [38–41,73] and potentially oviraptorids [74–76]."

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