• Booting a PowerWave 604|132.

    From peter@easthope.ca@21:1/5 to All on Sat Dec 28 21:41:21 2024
    Hi,

    I have a Macintosh clone PowerWave 604|132. The user's manual is
    available from the Internet Archive and other servers.

    The power button on the front panel and the button on the keyboard
    both cause the fan in the power supply to spin and the LED in the
    front to illuminate. The display remains black.

    I've tried two monitors and a second PCI video card. The display
    remains black in all cases.

    Neither the programmer's interrupt button nor reset button has
    effect. Meaning the Apple ROM isn't working? The CPU isn't working?

    Should an audible tone come from the speaker when the machine
    starts?

    One memory card is in each of two banks of sockets. Removing either
    card yields no change.

    The clock battery is probably dead but shouldn't cause this
    behaviour; correct?

    Adjacent to the memory are ROM and cache SSIMMs in sockets.
    Reseating is worth trying but the cards are stuck hard in the sockets.

    Other ideas? Poke around with an oscilloscope?

    Thanks, ... P.

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to peter@easthope.ca on Sun Dec 29 12:33:16 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:41:21 -0700, peter@easthope.ca wrote:

    Hi,

    I have a Macintosh clone PowerWave 604|132. The user's manual is
    available from the Internet Archive and other servers.

    The power button on the front panel and the button on the keyboard
    both cause the fan in the power supply to spin and the LED in the
    front to illuminate. The display remains black.

    I've tried two monitors and a second PCI video card. The display
    remains black in all cases.

    Neither the programmer's interrupt button nor reset button has
    effect. Meaning the Apple ROM isn't working? The CPU isn't working?

    Should an audible tone come from the speaker when the machine
    starts?

    One memory card is in each of two banks of sockets. Removing either
    card yields no change.

    The clock battery is probably dead but shouldn't cause this
    behaviour; correct?

    Adjacent to the memory are ROM and cache SSIMMs in sockets.
    Reseating is worth trying but the cards are stuck hard in the sockets.

    Other ideas? Poke around with an oscilloscope?

    Thanks, ... P.

    I can see the original owner of this machine, after using it for
    a decade, being unable to answer any of your questions.

    Mac users were never encouraged to fix their own machines.

    RL

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  • From bp@www.zefox.net@21:1/5 to peter@easthope.ca on Sun Dec 29 17:55:30 2024
    peter@easthope.ca wrote:
    Hi,

    I have a Macintosh clone PowerWave 604|132. The user's manual is
    available from the Internet Archive and other servers.

    The power button on the front panel and the button on the keyboard
    both cause the fan in the power supply to spin and the LED in the
    front to illuminate. The display remains black.

    I've tried two monitors and a second PCI video card. The display
    remains black in all cases.

    Neither the programmer's interrupt button nor reset button has
    effect. Meaning the Apple ROM isn't working? The CPU isn't working?

    Should an audible tone come from the speaker when the machine
    starts?

    One memory card is in each of two banks of sockets. Removing either
    card yields no change.

    The clock battery is probably dead but shouldn't cause this
    behaviour; correct?

    Adjacent to the memory are ROM and cache SSIMMs in sockets.
    Reseating is worth trying but the cards are stuck hard in the sockets.

    Other ideas? Poke around with an oscilloscope?

    No direct experience with Mac clones, but all of my genuine
    Apple machines failed from capacitor leakage causing corrosion
    of the motherboards and eventual failure. How does the board(s)
    look under a close inspection? Solder joints can also fail from
    through-plating residue trapped in vias. Neither is likely but
    both are fixable if they can be seen.

    Probing with a 'scope can't hurt, but you'll want some notion
    where to look for activity. Maybe near but not on a crystal?
    Without some sort of schematic it'll be a long search.

    There are YouTube channels devoted to fixing vintage computers,
    some of those might be worth a look.

    Good luck,

    bob prohaska

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to peter@easthope.ca on Sun Dec 29 13:27:19 2024
    On 28 Dec 2024 21:41:21 -0700, peter@easthope.ca wrote:

    Hi,

    I have a Macintosh clone PowerWave 604|132. The user's manual is
    available from the Internet Archive and other servers.

    The power button on the front panel and the button on the keyboard
    both cause the fan in the power supply to spin and the LED in the
    front to illuminate. The display remains black.

    I've tried two monitors and a second PCI video card. The display
    remains black in all cases.

    Neither the programmer's interrupt button nor reset button has
    effect. Meaning the Apple ROM isn't working? The CPU isn't working?

    Should an audible tone come from the speaker when the machine
    starts?

    One memory card is in each of two banks of sockets. Removing either
    card yields no change.

    The clock battery is probably dead but shouldn't cause this
    behaviour; correct?

    Adjacent to the memory are ROM and cache SSIMMs in sockets.
    Reseating is worth trying but the cards are stuck hard in the sockets.

    Other ideas? Poke around with an oscilloscope?

    Thanks, ... P.

    You might visually inspect the motherboard to see if there are any
    signs of gross component damage.

    pinholes in graphic processor chip bodies
    bulging electrolytic capacitors
    normal supply voltages/ripple (inspect power supply internally)
    loose connectors.

    remove, clean and reseat anything in a socket.

    try booting from a removable disc.

    RL

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