• any way to resurrect a weak fan?

    From Bill Abers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 15:58:01 2025
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it
    turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.
    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way
    to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference. Thanks in advance.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Bill Abers on Sat Jun 21 22:21:58 2025
    On 2025-06-21 21:58, Bill Abers wrote:
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn.  Well, it turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.
    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way
    to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives?  I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last.  I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference.  Thanks in advance.

    You did not say if it turns smoothly when you move it with your finger.

    (I do not know what is a weak fan, though)

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Bill Abers@21:1/5 to All on Sat Jun 21 17:02:48 2025
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  • From micky@21:1/5 to Abers on Sat Jun 21 18:12:28 2025
    In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:58:01 -0400, Bill
    Abers <none@anywherenet.com> wrote:

    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it >turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.

    How old is the refrigerator? I had a similar problem about 10 years ago
    when my Sears Kenmore (Whirlpool?) was 37 years old. The fan wasn't
    turning at all, for 2, probably 3 months, because I didn't have time to
    fix it. I figured it would overheat and ruin the fridge.

    Since I fixed the fan, it's been 10 years, and everything still works
    fine. It never stopped being cold even when the fan was stopped.

    I did have to defrost the frost-free refrigerator last week, first time
    in 42 years (plus 4 years before I bought the house.), There was about
    4 softballs worth of frost. The freezer is a trifle colder now I think,
    for the same setting.

    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way
    to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference.

    I'm surprised that didn't help. maybe you need an even lighter oil.
    Does WD-40 have some sort of solvent effect, that might dissolve
    "sludge" on the shaft?

    Thanks in advance.

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  • From John Robertson@21:1/5 to micky on Sat Jun 21 23:08:20 2025
    On 2025-06-21 3:12 p.m., micky wrote:
    In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:58:01 -0400, Bill
    Abers <none@anywherenet.com> wrote:

    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it
    turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.

    How old is the refrigerator? I had a similar problem about 10 years ago
    when my Sears Kenmore (Whirlpool?) was 37 years old. The fan wasn't
    turning at all, for 2, probably 3 months, because I didn't have time to
    fix it. I figured it would overheat and ruin the fridge.

    Since I fixed the fan, it's been 10 years, and everything still works
    fine. It never stopped being cold even when the fan was stopped.

    I did have to defrost the frost-free refrigerator last week, first time
    in 42 years (plus 4 years before I bought the house.), There was about
    4 softballs worth of frost. The freezer is a trifle colder now I think,
    for the same setting.

    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way
    to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference.

    I'm surprised that didn't help. maybe you need an even lighter oil.
    Does WD-40 have some sort of solvent effect, that might dissolve
    "sludge" on the shaft?

    Thanks in advance.

    WD-40 is terrible to use on anything you want to be still working in a
    year or so's time. It reacts with the oils and turns to goo...

    The stuff is a good Rust Preventative! Everything other claim is
    marketing hype.

    John :-#(#

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Bill Abers on Sun Jun 22 08:48:07 2025
    On 21/06/2025 20:58, Bill Abers wrote:
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.
    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way
    to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference. Thanks in advance.

    Will an external desk fan blowing over the heat exchanger do the job
    until the new fan arrives? That's if you can get it in the right
    position, of course.

    --
    Jeff

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to John Robertson on Sun Jun 22 11:22:45 2025
    John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com> wrote:

    On 2025-06-21 3:12 p.m., micky wrote:
    In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:58:01 -0400, Bill
    Abers <none@anywherenet.com> wrote:

    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it >> turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.

    How old is the refrigerator? I had a similar problem about 10 years ago when my Sears Kenmore (Whirlpool?) was 37 years old. The fan wasn't turning at all, for 2, probably 3 months, because I didn't have time to
    fix it. I figured it would overheat and ruin the fridge.

    Since I fixed the fan, it's been 10 years, and everything still works
    fine. It never stopped being cold even when the fan was stopped.

    I did have to defrost the frost-free refrigerator last week, first time
    in 42 years (plus 4 years before I bought the house.), There was about
    4 softballs worth of frost. The freezer is a trifle colder now I think, for the same setting.

    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way >> to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference.

    I'm surprised that didn't help. maybe you need an even lighter oil.
    Does WD-40 have some sort of solvent effect, that might dissolve
    "sludge" on the shaft?

    Thanks in advance.

    WD-40 is terrible to use on anything you want to be still working in a
    year or so's time. It reacts with the oils and turns to goo...

    The stuff is a good Rust Preventative! Everything other claim is
    marketing hype.

    Seconded!


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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 12:51:48 2025
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 23:08:20 -0700, John Robertson <jrr@flippers.com>
    wrote:

    On 2025-06-21 3:12 p.m., micky wrote:
    In sci.electronics.repair, on Sat, 21 Jun 2025 15:58:01 -0400, Bill
    Abers <none@anywherenet.com> wrote:

    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn. Well, it >>> turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or so.

    How old is the refrigerator? I had a similar problem about 10 years ago
    when my Sears Kenmore (Whirlpool?) was 37 years old. The fan wasn't
    turning at all, for 2, probably 3 months, because I didn't have time to
    fix it. I figured it would overheat and ruin the fridge.

    Since I fixed the fan, it's been 10 years, and everything still works
    fine. It never stopped being cold even when the fan was stopped.

    I did have to defrost the frost-free refrigerator last week, first time
    in 42 years (plus 4 years before I bought the house.), There was about
    4 softballs worth of frost. The freezer is a trifle colder now I think,
    for the same setting.

    I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there any way >>> to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going for 2-3
    days until the new one arrives? I wiggled it once or twice which
    initiated full speed, but it didn't last. I also tried lightly oiling
    it but no difference.

    I'm surprised that didn't help. maybe you need an even lighter oil.
    Does WD-40 have some sort of solvent effect, that might dissolve
    "sludge" on the shaft?

    Thanks in advance.

    WD-40 is terrible to use on anything you want to be still working in a
    year or so's time. It reacts with the oils and turns to goo...

    The stuff is a good Rust Preventative! Everything other claim is
    marketing hype.

    John :-#(#


    Applied on a frozen bearing, it can get things going, well enough for
    real lubricant to take,over.

    Also useful on 'frozen' screws, lock mechanisms etc. ditto real
    lubricant.

    And when things really get sub-zero, it will lubricate bike chains
    and deraileur gears long enough to get there.

    It's not a permanent lubricant.

    I wouldn't count on it as a preventative for anything - effect too
    short-lived.

    RL

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  • From root@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 16:48:07 2025

    Will an external desk fan blowing over the heat exchanger do the job
    until the new fan arrives? That's if you can get it in the right
    position, of course.


    That's exactly what I did when my fan motor failed. It only
    requires moving the refrigerator a little farther from the wall.

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  • From Bennett Price@21:1/5 to root on Sun Jun 22 11:14:06 2025
    On 6/22/2025 9:48 AM, root wrote:

    Will an external desk fan blowing over the heat exchanger do the job
    until the new fan arrives? That's if you can get it in the right
    position, of course.


    That's exactly what I did when my fan motor failed. It only
    requires moving the refrigerator a little farther from the wall.
    Any possibility the connections are bad; does wiggling the wires to the
    fan make any difference?

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  • From Carlos E.R.@21:1/5 to Bill Abers on Sun Jun 22 20:55:28 2025
    On 2025-06-21 23:02, Bill Abers wrote:
    On 6/21/25 4:21 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-21 21:58, Bill Abers wrote:
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn.  Well,
    it turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000
    or so. I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is
    there any way to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it
    going for 2-3 days until the new one arrives?  I wiggled it once or
    twice which initiated full speed, but it didn't last.  I also tried
    lightly oiling it but no difference.  Thanks in advance.

    You did not say if it turns smoothly when you move it with your finger.

    (I do not know what is a weak fan, though)


    Sorry, yes it does turn easily with finger.


    I have trouble understanding what is a weak fan. I have seen fan fails
    for two reasons: either they don't turn easily: possibly lack of oil,
    maybe a combination of oil/grease and dust/hairs making the axis stuck.
    The other reason, on big fans, is that the condenser fails. Wire
    breakage seems rare.

    If a small fan doesn't have strength to turn, it turns easily, and there
    is no capacitor, I don't know what it is. On DC type of fans, with a
    permanent magnet, that magnet may have lost the force.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Ralph Mowery@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jun 22 16:47:18 2025
    In article <1rebu84.qqs1miy7xhk0N%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid>, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid says...

    I'm surprised that didn't help. maybe you need an even lighter oil.
    Does WD-40 have some sort of solvent effect, that might dissolve
    "sludge" on the shaft?

    Thanks in advance.

    WD-40 is terrible to use on anything you want to be still working in a
    year or so's time. It reacts with the oils and turns to goo...

    The stuff is a good Rust Preventative! Everything other claim is
    marketing hype.

    Seconded!





    Wd40 is for getting rid of water. It may desolve some ru st and crud on
    the fan for a short time. For the long term it will act like glue.

    A good cheap chemical to remove the crud abd rusted together bolts is
    to mix automatic transmission fluid (dextron 2) and Acetone 50/50. Mix
    in stoddard solvent and kerosene 50/50 with it and you have Ed's Red
    gun cleaner. Might even work better for things like the fan motor but I
    have not tried that.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Carlos E.R. on Sun Jun 22 21:17:46 2025
    Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-06-21 23:02, Bill Abers wrote:
    On 6/21/25 4:21 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-21 21:58, Bill Abers wrote:
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn.  Well, >>> it turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000
    or so. I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is
    there any way to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it
    going for 2-3 days until the new one arrives?  I wiggled it once or
    twice which initiated full speed, but it didn't last.  I also tried
    lightly oiling it but no difference.  Thanks in advance.

    You did not say if it turns smoothly when you move it with your finger.

    (I do not know what is a weak fan, though)


    Sorry, yes it does turn easily with finger.


    I have trouble understanding what is a weak fan. I have seen fan fails
    for two reasons: either they don't turn easily: possibly lack of oil,
    maybe a combination of oil/grease and dust/hairs making the axis stuck.
    The other reason, on big fans, is that the condenser fails. Wire
    breakage seems rare.

    If a small fan doesn't have strength to turn, it turns easily, and there
    is no capacitor, I don't know what it is. On DC type of fans, with a permanent magnet, that magnet may have lost the force.

    A lot of small fan motors are shaded-pole types and don't generally
    exhibit an electrical failure mode that doesn't manifest itself as
    smoke.


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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jun 23 10:50:13 2025
    On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:02:48 -0400, Bill Abers <none@anywherenet.com>
    wrote:

    On 6/21/25 4:21 PM, Carlos E.R. wrote:
    On 2025-06-21 21:58, Bill Abers wrote:
    So my refrigerator evaporator fan has become too weak to turn.  Well,
    it turns, but very slowly maybe 1 RPM when the normal speed is 3000 or
    so. I have a new one on the way but, before my food spoils, is there
    any way to perhaps resurrect this existing fan, just to keep it going
    for 2-3 days until the new one arrives?  I wiggled it once or twice
    which initiated full speed, but it didn't last.  I also tried lightly
    oiling it but no difference.  Thanks in advance.

    You did not say if it turns smoothly when you move it with your finger.

    (I do not know what is a weak fan, though)


    Sorry, yes it does turn easily with finger.

    Check for winding continuity. If open cct, you'll need to replace a
    thermal fuse located near the end of the winding, under unsulation.

    RL

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