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    From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 13 09:11:52 2024
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to JL@gct.com on Sat Sep 14 05:56:24 2024
    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

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  • From Sergey Kubushyn@21:1/5 to Jan Panteltje on Sat Sep 14 07:48:24 2024
    Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Modulates, what else? :)

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to Kubushyn on Sat Sep 14 10:35:40 2024
    On a sunny day (Sat, 14 Sep 2024 07:48:24 -0000 (UTC)) it happened Sergey Kubushyn <ksi@koi8.net> wrote in <vc3f48$1c1ie$1@dont-email.me>:

    Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> wrote:
    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin
    <JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Modulates, what else? :)

    Ah, the stuff that modul ates!
    Probably fast food...

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 14 08:33:28 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin ><JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    It's a box.

    If you've got a modulator, you can stick it inside theah.

    RL

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  • From Cursitor Doom@21:1/5 to legg on Sat Sep 14 13:16:25 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:33:28 -0400, legg wrote:

    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin >><JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    It's a box.

    If you've got a modulator, you can stick it inside theah.


    Well, thanks for clearing that up.

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 14 08:04:07 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin ><JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Generates an arbitrary waveform when triggered, and drives a 2-stage
    e/o modulator that was mounted inside. It was used in the NIF fusion
    system.

    I'm sure the e/o modulator is not inside that one; it's too valuable.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/820yum03ge45k0c80buwn/nif-1201-04100_18.jpg?rlkey=3ijtvb3bxmc9c4a9ealpcwffk&raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b8ltf1hresx8gtfpds25/DSCN0100.JPG?rlkey=qsejza658v8uc9aae6hvh2hnj&raw=1


    We made the arb waveform by summing 120 Gaussian impuses spaced 250 ps
    apart. You can see the Gibbs Ears in the white waveform.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5qf0c0y0627agx4wnwwim/Waffle.gif?rlkey=e8cgrnjli3e5d55wlt4unxjix&raw=1

    World-class to e-waste in about 20 years.

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  • From Jan Panteltje@21:1/5 to JL@gct.com on Sat Sep 14 16:10:01 2024
    On a sunny day (Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:04:07 -0700) it happened john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote in <kj8bej501c9du4djp3afhuhg22dipnibgr@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin >><JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Generates an arbitrary waveform when triggered, and drives a 2-stage
    e/o modulator that was mounted inside. It was used in the NIF fusion
    system.

    I I now remember you talking about it here...


    I'm sure the e/o modulator is not inside that one; it's too valuable.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/820yum03ge45k0c80buwn/nif-1201-04100_18.jpg?rlkey=3ijtvb3bxmc9c4a9ealpcwffk&raw=1

    Is that their facility?


    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b8ltf1hresx8gtfpds25/DSCN0100.JPG?rlkey=qsejza658v8uc9aae6hvh2hnj&raw=1

    That is one way to cool a rack!


    We made the arb waveform by summing 120 Gaussian impuses spaced 250 ps
    apart. You can see the Gibbs Ears in the white waveform.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5qf0c0y0627agx4wnwwim/Waffle.gif?rlkey=e8cgrnjli3e5d55wlt4unxjix&raw=1

    Close to rectangular!


    World-class to e-waste in about 20 years.

    Yes, same for most electronics, while back (few years) everybody had to dump their TV for a digital one
    Then again here when we moved to DVB-T2 for terrestrial.. Buy a new box...
    Now it is new smartphone ever few years?
    I was reading some airline will now use starlink sats to gives users access to internet:
    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/09/free-starlink-internet-is-coming-to-all-of-uniteds-airplanes/

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 14 10:16:15 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 16:10:01 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Sat, 14 Sep 2024 08:04:07 -0700) it happened john larkin ><JL@gct.com> wrote in <kj8bej501c9du4djp3afhuhg22dipnibgr@4ax.com>:

    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid> >>wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin >>><JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Generates an arbitrary waveform when triggered, and drives a 2-stage
    e/o modulator that was mounted inside. It was used in the NIF fusion >>system.

    I I now remember you talking about it here...


    I'm sure the e/o modulator is not inside that one; it's too valuable.
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/820yum03ge45k0c80buwn/nif-1201-04100_18.jpg?rlkey=3ijtvb3bxmc9c4a9ealpcwffk&raw=1

    Is that their facility?

    Yes. I was surprised to find that pic online, with the posters on the
    end of the rack.



    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b8ltf1hresx8gtfpds25/DSCN0100.JPG?rlkey=qsejza658v8uc9aae6hvh2hnj&raw=1

    That is one way to cool a rack!


    We made the arb waveform by summing 120 Gaussian impuses spaced 250 ps >>apart. You can see the Gibbs Ears in the white waveform.
    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5qf0c0y0627agx4wnwwim/Waffle.gif?rlkey=e8cgrnjli3e5d55wlt4unxjix&raw=1

    Close to rectangular!

    The 120 Gaussian impulses were spaced optimally to get a flat-top
    rectangular waveform. But if you try to make a square pulse from those impulses, you get the Batman effect, the ears on either end.

    Fortunately, the real waveform doesn't need the sharp corners.

    Nowadays, one would just use a screaming fast DAC.

    The next-gen modulator uses a Tek arb to make the waveform, and we
    post-process that. I had to invent a new way to bias some $300
    distributed amplifier chips. DAs are usually specified for telecom
    use, where the waveform is DC-balanced data, 8b10b or some such, but
    we wanted big short pulses.



    World-class to e-waste in about 20 years.

    Yes, same for most electronics, while back (few years) everybody had to dump their TV for a digital one
    Then again here when we moved to DVB-T2 for terrestrial.. Buy a new box... >Now it is new smartphone ever few years?
    I was reading some airline will now use starlink sats to gives users access to internet:
    https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2024/09/free-starlink-internet-is-coming-to-all-of-uniteds-airplanes/


    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From Phil Hobbs@21:1/5 to john larkin on Sat Sep 14 18:04:42 2024
    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin
    <JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Generates an arbitrary waveform when triggered, and drives a 2-stage
    e/o modulator that was mounted inside. It was used in the NIF fusion
    system.

    I'm sure the e/o modulator is not inside that one; it's too valuable.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/820yum03ge45k0c80buwn/nif-1201-04100_18.jpg?rlkey=3ijtvb3bxmc9c4a9ealpcwffk&raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b8ltf1hresx8gtfpds25/DSCN0100.JPG?rlkey=qsejza658v8uc9aae6hvh2hnj&raw=1


    We made the arb waveform by summing 120 Gaussian impuses spaced 250 ps
    apart. You can see the Gibbs Ears in the white waveform.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5qf0c0y0627agx4wnwwim/Waffle.gif?rlkey=e8cgrnjli3e5d55wlt4unxjix&raw=1

    World-class to e-waste in about 20 years.



    What’s the wavelength? I might be interested.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    --
    Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal Consultant ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical. on Sat Sep 14 11:56:55 2024
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 18:04:42 -0000 (UTC), Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

    john larkin <JL@gct.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 14 Sep 2024 05:56:24 GMT, Jan Panteltje <alien@comet.invalid>
    wrote:

    On a sunny day (Fri, 13 Sep 2024 09:11:52 -0700) it happened john larkin >>> <JL@gct.com> wrote in <uqo8ej5a4nae7qj1m3uij37q67mb5ho75u@4ax.com>:


    https://www.ebay.com/itm/266499095322

    It's 49% off! And even more off from the original price.


    What does it do?

    Generates an arbitrary waveform when triggered, and drives a 2-stage
    e/o modulator that was mounted inside. It was used in the NIF fusion
    system.

    I'm sure the e/o modulator is not inside that one; it's too valuable.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/820yum03ge45k0c80buwn/nif-1201-04100_18.jpg?rlkey=3ijtvb3bxmc9c4a9ealpcwffk&raw=1

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/0b8ltf1hresx8gtfpds25/DSCN0100.JPG?rlkey=qsejza658v8uc9aae6hvh2hnj&raw=1


    We made the arb waveform by summing 120 Gaussian impuses spaced 250 ps
    apart. You can see the Gibbs Ears in the white waveform.

    https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5qf0c0y0627agx4wnwwim/Waffle.gif?rlkey=e8cgrnjli3e5d55wlt4unxjix&raw=1

    World-class to e-waste in about 20 years.



    What’s the wavelength? I might be interested.

    Cheers

    Phil Hobbs

    We modulate at 1053 nm, which is optically amplified, tripled to UV,
    and amplified some more.

    The triplers are giant, beautiful, pinkish slabs of glass. Take the
    NIF tour if you are ever around Livermore.

    --- SoupGate-Win32 v1.05
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