• XBLW variants of MCP6001/2 opamps

    From Pimpom@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 13:55:24 2025
    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types.

    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and
    packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked
    at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

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  • From john larkin@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 07:48:12 2025
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types.

    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and >packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly >US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked
    at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Newark is selling them in the USA for 24 cents at q1.

    It looks OK for low-power uses. Lots of offset, lots of noise.

    RRIO opamps generally make decent compareators too, and will compare a
    signal against ground. That one has nice common-mode specs.

    Most of them get stable if you hang a big enough cap on the output.

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Sun Feb 9 12:54:43 2025
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types.

    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and >packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly >US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked
    at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.

    RL

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  • From Pimpom@21:1/5 to legg on Mon Feb 10 01:09:49 2025
    On 09-02-2025 11:24 pm, legg wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types.

    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and
    packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly
    US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked
    at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.

    RL

    It's the letters XBLW I'm concerned about, like MCP6002T-I/SN-XBLW, and
    why they cost only a fraction of those without the last four letters in
    single quantities.

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  • From piglet@21:1/5 to Pimpom on Sun Feb 9 20:16:34 2025
    Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 09-02-2025 11:24 pm, legg wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types. >>>
    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and
    packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly >>> US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked >>> at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.

    RL

    It's the letters XBLW I'm concerned about, like MCP6002T-I/SN-XBLW, and
    why they cost only a fraction of those without the last four letters in single quantities.


    Looks like they are “second source “ parts from Xinbole Semiconductors. Could be legit or phoney?

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  • From legg@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 10:15:23 2025
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 01:09:49 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 09-02-2025 11:24 pm, legg wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types. >>>
    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and
    packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly >>> US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked >>> at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.

    RL

    It's the letters XBLW I'm concerned about, like MCP6002T-I/SN-XBLW, and
    why they cost only a fraction of those without the last four letters in >single quantities

    Have you tried purchasing the part? Could be marketing restrictions.

    RL

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  • From Pimpom@21:1/5 to legg on Mon Feb 10 22:32:10 2025
    On 10-02-2025 08:45 pm, legg wrote:
    On Mon, 10 Feb 2025 01:09:49 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    On 09-02-2025 11:24 pm, legg wrote:
    On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>
    wrote:

    While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in
    India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the Indian
    market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types. >>>>
    The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and >>>> packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for
    both single and dual types cost less than a third of the others (roughly >>>> US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked >>>> at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from
    Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra suffix.

    I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese
    copies maybe??

    Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.

    RL

    It's the letters XBLW I'm concerned about, like MCP6002T-I/SN-XBLW, and
    why they cost only a fraction of those without the last four letters in
    single quantities

    Have you tried purchasing the part? Could be marketing restrictions.

    RL

    Not yet. I just remembered that I have a small batch of TLV2372 from ~10
    years back. Same offset, even worse noise but that doesn't matter for my immediate needs. OTOH the TLV2372 has three times the voltage rating and
    3 times the speed - at the cost of a higher supply current. But I'm
    still curious about the XBLW suffix thing.

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  • From Martin Rid@21:1/5 to Pimpom on Mon Feb 10 12:18:19 2025
    Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid> Wrote in message:r
    On 09-02-2025 11:24 pm, legg wrote:> On Sun, 9 Feb 2025 13:55:24 +0530, Pimpom <Pimpom@invalid.invalid>> wrote:> >> While hunting for a cheap R-R opamp that's readily available here in>> India, I came across the MCP6001 and 6002. Unusually for the
    Indian>> market, a few sites offer several variants of both single and dual types.>>>> The first three suffix letters stand for temperature range, package and>> packing but some have the four extra letters XBLW. These variants for>> both single and dual
    types cost less than a third of the others (roughly>> US$0.20 vs $0.75) but I cannot find what the letters stand for. I looked>> at datasheets from various sources including the latest one from>> Microchip but couldn't find any reference to this extra
    suffix.>>>> I assume that the extra letters are not batch or date codes. Chinese>> copies maybe??> > Some numbers specify shipping Q = 1000 to 4000.> > RLIt's the letters XBLW I'm concerned about, like MCP6002T-I/SN-XBLW, and why they cost only a
    fraction of those without the last four letters in single quantities.

    It's not made by microchip, the mfg is xinbole.

    Cheers
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  • From Pimpom@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 10 23:44:46 2025
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